I have not checked my DHT levels yet, but I am very fortunate to have very low SHBG.
Proviron/DHT is primarily used to lower SHBG right
Proviron/DHT is primarily used to lower SHBG right
Gives you a boost in libido and alpha feeling, also more positive outlook and "i got this" attitude.I have not checked my DHT levels yet, but I am very fortunate to have very low SHBG.
Proviron/DHT is primarily used to lower SHBG right
It’s much more enjoyable than I anticipated.Gives you a boost in libido and alpha feeling, also more positive outlook and "i got this" attitude.
I feel it more than masteron.It’s much more enjoyable than I anticipated.
I’d like to run it most the year if I could.
Definitely dries you out, keeps gyno at bay, energy and libido boost, and really enhances the gear you’re on with the SHBG lowering.
Same. I’d really like to see how it goes with something like Dienolone and Mast pre contest as an alternative to Tren.I feel it more than masteron.
I may if I have to, it’s just nasty for me. I’m too angry and too anxiousDienolone instead of tren? Why not just lower the dose of tren?
i would personally keep an eye on lipids.I need to get me some proviron...
How long can you run it alongside TRT? Safely
Lmg is one of my fav orals bc you can push the dosage and not worry about the liver too much since its non methyl. Also pairs great w hardeners like proviron, hdrol, and my personal fav furaza. Test + lmg + furaza is one of my fav cycles. That or tes & dmzI never get notified of tags.
Sorry.
I only ran it at 45 that 1st run with it. Receptors were prime though. I responded really well to it.
I did an odd combo of M-LMG and Epi 3 years later and responded really well again, pushed to 60 on that run but it does well 40-50
This exactly. I was always trying to augment my trt with some kind of DHT usually anavar because masteron gave me sore joints and then a buddy of mine threw me some proviron and Not only was it the best DHT I had tried and the really probably the only one I hadn't tried and now I absolutely love it and believe that it should 100% be available for addition to trt medically because I think there are plenty of men out there who are being treated for depression that could take 5mg of proviron and be happy as hell. Also it isn't that bad on lipids for me and only gave slight elevation to liver enzymes after staying on it for 2 months straight even when I was being lazy and laying around the house and not pushing enough water at dosages of 25 to 50 a day. It made sex so much better and definitely gives that I got it attitude as stated previously. Similar to The Confidence you get with d ball just without the euphoric element to it.I feel it more than masteron.
All depends on dosage and how much water you drink and your body. If you keep it to 12.5-25 i wouod say a while if you eat alot* of healthy fats. Just make sure youre pushing water and healthy fats and a lower dose i would think should be fine for several months. Then again some can only run 25 for 30 days and some run 75 for 90 or more so who the hell knows.I need to get me some proviron...
How long can you run it alongside TRT? Safely
Awesome. Thank you.All depends on dosage and how much water you drink and your body. If you keep it to 12.5-25 i wouod say a while if you eat alot* of healthy fats. Just make sure youre pushing water and healthy fats and a lower dose i would think should be fine for several months. Then again some can only run 25 for 30 days and some run 75 for 90 or more so who the hell knows.
Just my opinion, but if you are planning to add stuff on top of your trt, i would stick to a predefined cycle instead of running something continuously, and i would keep it to 12 weeks per year max (before an event, competition, beach season etc).Awesome. Thank you.
Would the addition of Proviron do anything weird to my TRT bloodwork? Cause the doc to start asking questions...?
Yeah, I hear you.Just my opinion, but if you are planning to add stuff on top of your trt, i would stick to a predefined cycle instead of running something continuously, and i would keep it to 12 weeks per year max (before an event, competition, beach season etc).
Problems can compound on top of each other year after year.
I would agree with this. It shines when running something like Trest that needs some DHT to dry it up. On a blast, it will certainly allow you to run lower doses and get more out of it than you normally would.Just my opinion, but if you are planning to add stuff on top of your trt, i would stick to a predefined cycle instead of running something continuously, and i would keep it to 12 weeks per year max (before an event, competition, beach season etc).
Problems can compound on top of each other year after year.
It’s because of the release of myostastin that occurs in the body when on cycle.I would agree with this. It shines when running something like Trest that needs some DHT to dry it up. On a blast, it will certainly allow you to run lower doses and get more out of it than you normally would.
It will make your cholesterol look awful if you’re getting labs done by your Doc. It works quick too, so if you’re going to do a npp blast or something, it’ll get you what you need in 8 weeks easy.. , I’m definitely adding it to things like that, because I’ve been using gear so long, sometimes I see very little from high doses. I don’t know if it’s some mythical receptor saturation, or elevated SHBG, or just desensitization. But proviron really has shown me, that I don’t need to keep raising my doses. Plus the anti estro effects.
It’s an Add-On basically. No need to run year round or anything, it wouldn’t do enough.
Pre contests, beach season, or blasts to use less drugs.
Excellent. Thank you for the insightWould never run any oral year round, esp not proviron. 25mg max for run of 8wks, or 12.5 for 12 is what i know my liver can take before my enzymes are off the charts. Everyone is different. My doc just told me to "not drink so much" last bloodwork and I had been taking 25mg for about 3-4mo. So it couldnt have been that bad. But with that known i did run a heavy whole body detox and liver happy program. Just realize like stated earlier that in the end we cant see cardio problems for the most part and so much is considered "normal" but may not be for you so just run your trt and maybe some thyroid hormone and diet like crazy (like play with it until you find the best for you) and max yourself out before going onto things like proviron. Although i will say proviron is a great thing if used correctly.
Also, if its straight dht you're wantong there is such a thing out there if you know where to look. In a cream.
Be safe, *take your time* and best of luck.
Np at all. Anytime. Feep free to mssg me if you wantExcellent. Thank you for the insight
Need to look at hematocrit and hemoglobin or "h&h". If hematocrit is above 15 they will often "drain you" or ypu can just go to tractor supply and grab a 30 or 50ml syringe and unload some. Honestly 50ml is often enough. 150 is plenty (3 of them). Just have a friend around along w some cookies.While on TRT, is it possible to "burn through" for lack of better words the exogenous testosterone...?
I've noticed inconsistent bloodwork along the way during my TRT protocol. Both blood samples were obtained in the trough.
Can things like alcohol or drug use lower TRT levels of testosterone, or should the number remain the same???
Hopefully this makes some sort of sense....
I would like to see this study !Just gonna throw this out there, since there’s a few hypochondriacs running around (not in this thread) and unfortunately I added to it by discussing blood donation.
It’s not necessary to go draining on your blood with hematocrit 51-54. That’s normal as hell for males especially on TRT and you aren’t going to die of a blood clot. Try everything else and once you get several points out of range, THEN donate. I’ll post up a study if I can find it again where guys are getting in much worse spots with low epo ad iron doing this excessively. 1-2 times a year donate IF you are several % out of range, only then.
Meant hemoglobin. And alsp meant 16. When im 15.7 or above i get drained but that onky happened once w a lot of test and some eq. I guess its true what they say about eq. And yes, youd be also be correct for hematocrit above 54 i wanna say is what doc said is his number. They all have diff thresholds.If hematocrit is above 15 they will often "drain you"
Shouldn't this say above 50 ??
Yup, it was 54. Wonder where they pull that number from. Anyways, yeah, sry about the mix up. Thats the prpblem w posting at 430-5am. And its weird, i know a guy whos numbers are constantly both on the high end or straight out of range but they dont dp anything w him bc hes not on trt. I guess some of it is plain old cya. I can usually just feel when i should loose 50ml and it isnt that often at all! Ive done it maybe 3 times over past decade. Usually when i was doing some heavy cycling.I wouldn’t donate more than a third of a pint at 54. I’d wait for it to get out of range while trying some easy fixes: avoiding nicotine, more water, some herbs known to lower H&H, and a few others.
This /\Just gonna throw this out there, since there’s a few hypochondriacs running around (not in this thread) and unfortunately I added to it by discussing blood donation.
It’s not necessary to go draining on your blood with hematocrit 51-54. That’s normal as hell for males especially on TRT and you aren’t going to die of a blood clot. Try everything else and once you get several points out of range, THEN donate. I’ll post up a study if I can find it again where guys are getting in much worse spots with low epo ad iron doing this excessively. 1-2 times a year donate IF you are several % out of range, only then.
Thanks alot for all the great information guys. Really helps with my TRT going forward, and piece of mind.This /\
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