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Tropinol XP™ - We need Beta testers! Guess the ingredient and win

Hey vaughn i guessed potassium awhile back-Did I not get credit for my potassium guess because I didn't specify potassium nitrate?
 
Yeah I was curious about the dosing as well. Full profile has me really excited since I have not ever tried most of the ingredients.

Vaughn, I went ahead and messaged you my address. Thanks again can't wait to give some feedback on this bad boy
 
Adizzle1 said:
Whats the daily dose on this, 3 caps?
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Dosing Directions:

Workout Days: On workout days, consume 4 servings (4 capsules) of Tropinol XP approximately 30-60 minutes pre-workout.

Non Workout Days: On non-workout days, consume 2 servings(2 capsules) upon waking, and an additional 2 servings(2 capsules) approximately 6-8 hours later.


This gives a "true" 25 day serving at full dosage, however many will be able to see great results with only 2-3 capsules/day.

On top of this, the product should be available at a NORMAL price of $35.99, and I'm sure we'll see NP have it released well within the mid $20's range :D
 
Adizzle1 said:
thats awesome, should be a good dose of nitrates among everything else, like 350-400mg nitrate + icarrin should be strong pumps!
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How do figure? Label says 58mg potassium nitrate...don't doubt the pump effect, just not seeing where your getting that 400mg figure- I guess if you used like 8 caps.
 
No it says 58mg of Potassium from Potassium Nitrate so 150mg of PN per cap, so your getting 92mg of Nitrates per capsule x 4 = 368mg of Nitrate per serving if im doing it right.
 
BBB said:
I don't see any novel ingredients except maybe potassium nitrate.
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Sometimes the best products are those that take the ingredients that are the most tried, tested, and proven and provided at the highest possible doses ;).

Releasing a "novel" ingredient simply for the sake of being novel doesn't help make a great product, it simply allows you to draw a lot of hype.

daft205 said:
How do figure? Label says 58mg potassium nitrate...don't doubt the pump effect, just not seeing where your getting that 400mg figure- I guess if you used like 8 caps.
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Adizzle1 said:
No it says 58mg of Potassium from Potassium Nitrate, so your getting 92mg of Nitrates per capsule x 4 = 368mg of Nitrate per serving if im doing it right.
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This math is correct.
 
daft205 said:
True, but the 1.5%dv you have listed on the label(how I deduced potassium) has nothing to do with the type of potassium salt...but whatever.
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the salt makes a massive difference in the function of the ingredient.

the same could be said for someone guessing an herb, but not guessing the correct standardization of that herb. I know it may seem like semantics to you, and I'm sorry you're not happy with the decision.
 
VaughnTrue said:
the salt makes a massive difference in the function of the ingredient.

the same could be said for someone guessing an herb, but not guessing the correct standardization of that herb. I know it may seem like semantics to you, and I'm sorry you're not happy with the decision.
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I'm kinda with him, its listed on your label as: Potassium (as Potassium Nitrate)

The winner for guessing Zinc only had to say Zinc as opposed to Zinc Aspartate when it is annotated the same way: Zinc (as Zinc Aspartate)

I realize you think it to be different because of the nitrates ergogenic benefit and I assume you would have given it to someone who had guessed Nitrates but still.
 
jimbuick said:
I'm kinda with him, its listed on your label as: Potassium (as Potassium Nitrate)

The winner for guessing Zinc only had to say Zinc as opposed to Zinc Aspartate when it is annotated the same way: Zinc (as Zinc Aspartate)

I realize you think it to be different because of the nitrates ergogenic benefit and I assume you would have given it to someone who had guessed Nitrates but still.
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Unfortunately the winners have been chosen, and he is about to receive a bottle of Tv2.

In the future, I have no problem getting him a bottle of Tropinol XP to use(on the house of course), as long as he keeps a log for us :). Right now I only have so many bottles to give out, so I don't want to be an indian giver and remove a bottle from someone who has been promised.

So as soon as we get more stock in, and he finishes the Tv2 log(or even during really is fine by me), I would be more than happy to get a bottle out to him for his guess :)


edit: to be clear, although you are correct about the zinc comment, the reason why I believed that entry was enough for a win was because the form of zinc(aspartate, or orotate, or any other common salt) does not change its effects in our body. In this instance, the nitrate salt significantly alters the effects of potassium, and was my reasoning behind not counting it as a correct guess.
 
BBB said:
I don't see any novel ingredients except maybe potassium nitrate.
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Solid formula though. I think this would a recomp Beast.

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BBB said:
I don't see any novel ingredients except maybe potassium nitrate.
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You can only reinvent the wheel so many times. The formula itself is unique enough to peak my interest. Having used everything in it this should be solid.
 
VaughnTrue said:
Sometimes the best products are those that take the ingredients that are the most tried, tested, and proven and provided at the highest possible doses ;).

Releasing a "novel" ingredient simply for the sake of being novel doesn't help make a great product, it simply allows you to draw a lot of hype.





This math is correct.
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Couldn't have said it better myself! This is going to be a killer product, can't wait to run this!

Mike
 
dtrain13 said:
You can only reinvent the wheel so many times. The formula itself is unique enough to peak my interest. Having used everything in it this should be solid.
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Agreed. Give me formula that works over new ingredients any day. No one ever cares what's in a product if it works (assuming it isn't like arsenic).
 
Wow, looks like NP is having some REALLY strong pre-sales on this stuff. Intimidate is 35 dollars right now. You can get Trop XP plus Intimidate (and 3 Dex samples) for 32 bucks. That's a really good deal right there.

I'm excited to give this a run! And might be hitting up that pre-sale as well!
 
Geoforce said:
Wow, looks like NP is having some REALLY strong pre-sales on this stuff. Intimidate is 35 dollars right now. You can get Trop XP plus Intimidate (and 3 Dex samples) for 32 bucks. That's a really good deal right there.

I'm excited to give this a run! And might be hitting up that pre-sale as well!
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Thats a damn good deal
 
Yeah, damn good deal and might be a really killer stack. I was already looking at Trop's ingredients and wondering how it would fit with all little DAA on the side (considering I have tons of the stuff). NMDAA would probably be even better.
 
BPjohn123 said:
Hmmmm, maybe a different choice of words? Not nit picking but ...
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I wonder if the holly nit picking posy will be all up on Vaunghs case for making that mistake. I am sure he did not mean anything by it...but you never know how they will react...it's almost like an old car...you never know if a piston will just blow up!
 
Celorza said:
I wonder if the holly nit picking posy will be all up on Vaunghs case for making that mistake. I am sure he did not mean anything by it...but you never know how they will react...it's almost like an old car...you never know if a piston will just blow up!
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Not surprised. Figured I would be the first.
 
in all fairness the term 'indian giver' should not be considered derogatory towards native americans. it was the u.s government who broke their word and reneged on treaties.
 
VaughnTrue said:
Sometimes the best products are those that take the ingredients that are the most tried, tested, and proven and provided at the highest possible doses ;).

Releasing a "novel" ingredient simply for the sake of being novel doesn't help make a great product, it simply allows you to draw a lot of hype.


This math is correct.
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Would stacking this with other nitrate containing products be considered unsafe? For example, any preworkout containing creatine nitrate etc?
 
I'm actually part native american(a very small part, but still a part) - some of my ancestors were Penobscot Indians from Maine.

It was not my intention to upset/offend anyone, and if I did, I apologize.
 
southpaw23 said:
Would stacking this with other nitrate containing products be considered unsafe? For example, any preworkout containing creatine nitrate etc?
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taking too many Nitrates can cause headaches, so starting off with small doses and working up is suggested.
 
dtrain13 said:
The emoticon giving the bird? Lol no worries man.
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Lol I was kinda thinking the same thing. Tough for me to read. No worries though, all is good in this thread and I'm pumped to run Trop XP.
 
Do I need to run dopa with intimidate? Should I get some kind of estro support for Tropinol XP? Would Bulbine be a smart choice to add to the Nutra Stack?
 
unicron10940 said:
Do I need to run dopa with intimidate? Should I get some kind of estro support for Tropinol XP? Would Bulbine be a smart choice to add to the Nutra Stack?
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IMO you don't "need" anything.

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unicron10940 said:
Will Prolactin be an issue when taking intimidate? Yes, nobody "needs" to take supplements. Very informative Rob.
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I personally feel that the fear or prolactin is over blown. I have ran DAA products with and without support with no difference in regards to any side. Evidence suggests that prolactin will rise to a degree but unless you are gyno prone you will most likely never know. If you are prone to these sides support is a great idea, if you aren't sure like I wasn't feel free to experiment. Furthermore, if these supplements are new to you and you stack too many things it will alter your perceived results giving a skewed view on what they have done for you. If you have used, say bulbine, and are aware of what you will get out of it then you could possibly successfully analyze these supplements.

I meant you don't really "need" anything bc it is a solid looking stack. Not "you don't need" in regards to supplements. Sorry for the short response and confusion. Hope this post helped you better.

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Will pro go up? probably just like all the other "good" hormones do when using DAA. will it be an issue? i dont think so unless you are fat, already have gyno, or baseline values are off thr charts. your t levels can go up 30-40% but were not talking huge increase like AAS. see Pampillo M, et al. Journal
Neuroreport. 2002. Dec 3;13(17):2341-4. unfortunately this study does not publish estro and prolactin values, i only saw LH and T values. But on positive side study used human subjects in addition to rats. "Accumulation of D-Aspartic Acid (and NMDA) in the Adenohypophysis (Anterior Pituitary) causes increases in the secretion rates of Gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH), Growth-Hormone releasing hormone (GHRH), and Prolactin Releasing Factors (PRFs) which cause releases of Luteinizing hormone (LH) and Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH), Growth Hormone (GH), and Prolactin, respectively. "
 
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