Tri-Max

Redspy said:
I ran a two week clen cycle a while ago and lost about 5lbs. I went up to 160mcg and was surprised how well my body tolerated it. The only thing I didn't like was the significantly raised pulse rate during workouts, even though I took it 12 hrs before (yes, i know it has a long half-life).
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I don't know if you'll have the same effects as I do, but Triac (Trimax) and T3 both give me significantly higher pulse rates as well. Just wanted to tell you this in case you were using Triac in an attempt to specifically avoid the increased heart rate. When I'm taking 4mg Trimax my resting heart rate is ~108! My normal resting heart rate in in the very low 70's...
 
Scrap said:
I don't know if you'll have the same effects as I do, but Triac (Trimax) and T3 both give me significantly higher pulse rates as well. Just wanted to tell you this in case you were using Triac in an attempt to specifically avoid the increased heart rate. When I'm taking 4mg Trimax my resting heart rate is ~108! My normal resting heart rate in in the very low 70's...
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I'm on the second day (1 cap per day) and my resting pulse rate is normal so far. I don't mind an increased heart rate - just not while I'm working out doing heavy/intense sets.

Thanks for the heads up.
 
Just wanted to give feedback on my Trimax cycle so far:

Day 5, still at 1 cap per day. Workouts have been good, no loss of strength yet. I'm taking 5g of BCAAs pre and post workout in an attempt to spare muscle. Also taking a night time protein mix (micellar casein) to keep my nitrogen balance as positive as I can. I'm also taking two scoops of glutamine peptides ED for the same reason

Calories are below maintenance with a focus on low glycemic/fiberous carbs and high quality protein.

I can tell my metabolism is in serious overdrive, I'm constantly hot and feel very alert. After a meal I'm often hungry within 45 mins and snack on low GI fruit etc to avoid feelings of starvation.

Overall I've lost 1lb but didn't expect to lose anymore based on the logs I've seen here.

As I'm running this cycle without androgens I expect some muscle loss in week two, but the overwhelming objective is fat loss. So far so good.
 
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why are you eating high GI carbs? Surprised you feel alert. Its not a stim, and actually makes many people lethargic.
 
Scottyo said:
why are you eating high GI carbs? Surprised you feel alert. Its not a stim, and actually makes many people lethargic.
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I meant low GI carbs. A hazard of posting just before bedtime :-) I've edited the post above.
 
if your going to do m1t/4ad get your bang for your androgen buck. Drop the cals, get a app. suppresant if necessary (or m1t works good enough for many), and add in a healthy dose of trimax. Keep cardio to HIIT only, lift hard and heavy and see what it does for you. If your looking to recomp (thus maintenance cals) id look into other supps. t3/trimax can make you feel like crap at high doses, and if your going to play with your thyroid...make it worth your while. THis isnt kiddy stuff boys and girls.
 
I know some find success in fat loss in this manner, but wouldn't ths kind of combo poentially conflict with itself, or offset maximal gains (presumedly why you'd use M1T/4AD, etc.) because of tri-max's power and catabolic properties?
 
milwood said:
I know some find success in fat loss in this manner, but wouldn't ths kind of combo poentially conflict with itself, or offset maximal gains (presumedly why you'd use M1T/4AD, euc.) because of tri-max's power and catabolic properties?
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Who are you responding to? If your dieting, your dieting. I sound like a broken record....."maximal gains" is not why you would use m1t/4ad when dieting, otherwise you would not be using trimax. The androgens are there to allow you to be well below maintenance (thus presumably catabolic) yet RETAIN your muscle. Building muscle on trimax is a fantasy for most people. Since it reduces carb storage, increases ox etc. you will be flatter and thus strength will if anything diminish. If your looking to recomp, use t3 at a low dose (no more than 25mcg preferably less) to increase protein synthesis and use androgens while eating clean. Diet, or don't diet....but don't screw around.
 
Thanks, that helps with my confusion. I never heard of M1T/4AD and dieting used in the same sentence, but what you point out about how it could be so makes sense, regarding muscle sparing.
 
No problem. pretty much any anabolic compound can be used for dieting or gaining, just depends on calories and macronutritients as well as training.
Just so I don't have to repeat myself.....if anyone is thinking of using trimax and gaining muscle (especially bulking but even recomping) please think otherwise. These compounds do affect your thyroid, and thus are not to be taken too lightly. Secondly, as dosing on trimax is harder to gauge then t3, taking a low dose to upregulate protein synthesis and "keep a little fat off" does not seem to be the best approach IMO. Im not saying trimax is bad, it may be more effective then even high doses of t3 for many people...and as in jweave's case it might not cause allergic reactions. However, with t3 being somewhat more precise and often easier to dose, it is a better choice for low dosing. That all said, trimax is the real deal and then some for fatloss, and you can't get a better deal/product then custom's.
----Soapbox rant over.
With that, im pretty much done with this thread.
 
How much does trimax and clen cost at custums?
In some way I can not read the names of the stuff he sells.
Only the price is listed :hammer:
 
Scottyo said:
With that, im pretty much done with this thread.
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Will it ever end??? I swear everything you could possibly wanna know about Triac, how to run a triac cycle, what it does to the thyroid/thyroid hormones, is all contained in this thread. Now all we have to do is figure a way for people to read the whole thing before they post a question at the end. :frustrate
 
Trimax is working! Questions on how to end

I want to start off by saying that this stuff is working great. I have not experienced a heated body temp or sweating, but my resting heart rate while golfing last weekend was 122!!! I am doing 1 week at 1 cap, 2 weeks of 2 caps, then 1 week of 1 cap. So far I have lost about 9lbs. My question is this>>>>> Besides eating clean and raising the calories immediately following my trimax cycle, what other supplements are recommended and how long should I take those supplements? I have been told by one member that SanT3 is good so I will probably take that, but any other advice you could post? Thanks
 
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I have a similar question on what to do after using Tri-Max to help with TSH recovery and prevent fat gain. (I promise I've read the entire thread)

I've read some suggest transdermal 7-keto, Syntrax's Beta 3 and gugglebolic, L-
tyrosine, eca...and I read where Par at Avant said the thyroid will come back quicky and he wouldn't worry about trying to speed recovery.

So what's the deal? I plan to switch from cutting calores to maintenance level but not sure what else is needed/adviced to prevent fat gain and get my thyroid output back to normal asap.

Is fat gain after stopping the TriMax inevitable?

Also - I'll be on M4OHN when I use the Tri-Max. I'll either stop both at the same time OR stop the Tri-Max one week before the M4OHN. Which would be better?
 
nikegurl said:
I have a similar question on what to do after using Tri-Max to help with TSH recovery and prevent fat gain. (I promise I've read the entire thread)

I've read some suggest transdermal 7-keto, Syntrax's Beta 3 and gugglebolic, L-
tyrosine, eca...and I read where Par at Avant said the thyroid will come back quicky and he wouldn't worry about trying to speed recovery.

So what's the deal? I plan to switch from cutting calores to maintenance level but not sure what else is needed/adviced to prevent fat gain and get my thyroid output back to normal asap.

Is fat gain after stopping the TriMax inevitable?

Also - I'll be on M4OHN when I use the Tri-Max. I'll either stop both at the same time OR stop the Tri-Max one week before the M4OHN. Which would be better?
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I know this really doesn't answer your question but I have no troubles keeping fat off when coming off Trimax even with no supplemental help (7-oxo, guggel, etc) I just kept calories a little above maintanence, did a little bit more cardio, and ate cleanly.
 
actually it does help! did you lose a ton of muscle when you took the TriMax or only about the same amount you would on any cutting diet? thanks
 
Dumb question of the day but I have to ask

fieyaa said:
I know this really doesn't answer your question but I have no troubles keeping fat off when coming off Trimax even with no supplemental help (7-oxo, guggel, etc) I just kept calories a little above maintanence, did a little bit more cardio, and ate cleanly.
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When you all say eat "clean" you mean just a good routine of good food, veggies, low fat proteins, some fish, nuts? things of that nature? If I follow CKD would that be recommended?
 
nikegurl said:
actually it does help! did you lose a ton of muscle when you took the TriMax or only about the same amount you would on any cutting diet? thanks
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I lost quite a bit of muscle and a lot more strength on my first run with Tri-max. On my 2nd run, I ate a lot better and was taking Clen and M1T during the 3 weeks (ran m1t for 3.5 weeks and clen for 4 weeks). Most my lifts went up and I dropped about 2-3 lbs compared to about 12-15lbs and losing strength the first time. My 2nd time was definately more of a "success story" with Tri-max because i didnt lost much, if any, muscle, strength increased, and lost quite a bit of fat from the mirror test.
 
somagish said:
When you all say eat "clean" you mean just a good routine of good food, veggies, low fat proteins, some fish, nuts? things of that nature? If I follow CKD would that be recommended?
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I can't speak for all of us, but I think Bobo mentioned a good ratio of C:F:P in this thread somewhere. I think he also mentions for those on CKD diets and general T3/Tri-Max usuage on how T3 depletes your glycogen stores pretty rapidly. I have a small feeling he was suggesting against a CKD while on T3/Trimax
 
I'm very tempted to try it - but the fear of losing muscle is making me hesitate big time. I currently using M4OHN and that has been going well for me. I wouldn't want to go with any stronger phs and/or aas (I'm a woman). If I knew I could use the TriMax with the M4OHN and not lose much muscle I'd be all over it.

If I do try stacking the two - any thoughts on whether I should stop both together or continue the M4OHN a week beyond the TriMax?
 
nikegurl said:
I'm very tempted to try it - but the fear of losing muscle is making me hesitate big time. I currently using M4OHN and that has been going well for me. I wouldn't want to go with any stronger phs and/or aas (I'm a woman). If I knew I could use the TriMax with the M4OHN and not lose much muscle I'd be all over it.

If I do try stacking the two - any thoughts on whether I should stop both together or continue the M4OHN a week beyond the TriMax?
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It might be in your better interest to procure some T3 which you can dose more appropriately. 25mcg to get some of the partioning effects and a little bit higher dose for some more fat burning. Or you could try running 2mgs of Tri-Max (1 cap) the whole time and if you experience to much muscle loss to either up the calorie intake a little bit (200-300cals) or perhaps just end the tri-max all together. The problem with 2mg capsules is that tiratricol has a half-life of about 6 hours so once daily dosing doesn't seem that efficient. /2cents
 
It didn't do anything for me. I was about 700 cal under maintenence. I was also taking an EC stack. Actually, when I added the Trimax my fat loss came to a halt. I was loosing consistantly, and thought I would add Trimax to speed things up a bit and it ended up stoping my progress. I would not purchase it again.
 
when people talk about Clen is that the stuff that custom nutrition has or is it the stuff you can't legally purchase anywhere? i'd like to look into that option a little more but i won't bother if i can't buy it online anywhere. thanks!
 
nikegurl said:
when people talk about Clen is that the stuff that custom nutrition has or is it the stuff you can't legally purchase anywhere? i'd like to look into that option a little more but i won't bother if i can't buy it online anywhere. thanks!
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Yep, you can buy it from Custom
 
Thanks so much. Matt has already been very helpful. I'll do some more reading here on the Clen and may have some questions. You're all terrific and I thank you for your patience and help! :D
 
Has anyone had any stomach problems while on Trimax? I started a week ago dosing at 1 per day and my stomach hasn't felt right. Like a cramping feeling. My diet is clean at about 200-500 under my maintinance.
 
Hello,

I have read allot about this but, what is the consinstance about what to stack trimax with? And the post to get a good recovery.
 
Also,

whp got the best prices? My wife and I want to do a 4 week cycle, how much of tr-max and the stack supplimentes will we need.

Sorry for the newbie question....
 
Custom has the best prices, and is the only vendor I know of. As far as stacking, I need more info. on what you want out of the cycle. Obviously you are looking to drop some fat, but if you are interested in keeping your muscle, then you need some type of powerful androgen to help combat the effects of trimax.
 
I just started my second cycle of Trimax on Monday. I had pretty strong stomach pains last night, kind of like knots. On my first cycle of trimax I was on the toilette all the time but it was worth it.



raylewis said:
Has anyone had any stomach problems while on Trimax? I started a week ago dosing at 1 per day and my stomach hasn't felt right. Like a cramping feeling. My diet is clean at about 200-500 under my maintinance.
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When tapering down the trimax will the lethargy decrease? Like going from 3 then tapering down to 2 then 1, will cardio get easier?

Reason i ask is i have a fight this weekend and need good gas for it, and i was wondering if i should taper down my trimax and get off it by the weekend, or just taper it down but stay on it.

thanks
 
THREAD KILLING SUMMARY
Idea: Someone should post this near the beginning so no-one has to read through 343 posts before getting to this...

Bobo:
Potent thermogenic action of triiodothyroacetic acid in brown adipocytes.
Medina-Gomez G, Hernandez A, Calvo RM, Martin E, Obregon MJ.
Instituto Investigaciones Biomedicas (C.S.I.C.-UAM), Arturo Duperier 4, 28029 Madrid, Spain.

Triiodothyroacetic acid (TRIAC) is a triiodothyronine (T3) metabolite with high affinity for T3 nuclear receptors. We compared the thermogenic action of TRIAC versus T3 in brown adipocytes, by studying target genes known to mediate thermogenic action: uncoupling protein 1 (UCP-1), a marker of brown adipocytes, and type II-5'deiodinase (D2), which provides the T3 required for thermogenesis. TRIAC is 10-50 times more potent than T3 at increasing the adrenergic induction of UCP-1 mRNA and D2 activities. TRIAC action on UCP-1 is exerted at the transcriptional level. In the presence of an adrenergic stimulus, TRIAC is also more potent than T3, inducing lipoprotein lipase mRNA and 5 deiodinase (D3) activity and mRNA. Maximal effects occur at very low concentrations (0.2 nM). The greater potency of TRIAC is not due to preferential cellular or nuclear uptake. Therefore, TRIAC is a potent thermogenic agent that might increase energy expenditure and regulate T3 production in brown adipocytes.
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As far as positive reports go, it gets rave reviews.

Supersoldier's blood work:
[Baseline]TSH 1.43; T3 142.86; T4 6.9; Free T4 1.30
[4mg/day after 4 days]TSH 0.04; T3 665.97; T4 4.4; Free T4 1.09

[6mg/day]T3 >800 (above linearity for the machine ); T4 2.1; Free T4 0.84
[6mg/day]T3 diluted 1:2 684.26 1368.52 ng/dl of T3

[5 days off]TSH 0.36; T4 2.1; Free T4 0.96; T3 71.11; Free T3 2.92
[9 days off]TSH 1.52; T3 131.58; T4 4.8; Free T4 2.14
[13 days off]TSH 1.27; T3 70.60; T4 3.6; Free T4 1.98
[23 days off]TSH 1.34; t3 69.75; T4 4.2; Free T4 1.65 (Free T3 3.48)
[35 days off]TSH 1.68; T3 101.01; T4 4.6; Free T4 1.67; (free T3 3.61)
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SuperSoldier
"Tri-Max is A LOT stronger [than Clen] for losing fat IMO, but also has downsides. It shuts down the thyroid, and is also catabolic (if you ask me, it's VERY catabolic), just as T3 is. You will shed mass amounts of fat, assuming diet and training are in check, but the chance of losing muscle is great, and losing strength is almost certain. For this reason I would NEVER use Tri-Max or T3 without a potent androgen. And even so, don't expect to gain strength while on. Also your muscles will look flat while on." "If I wasn't taking any androgens, I wouldn't use Tri-Max at all"
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Bobo:
"There are studies showing the use of T3 for 35+ years and when the dose was disconintued, thyroid function returned to normal within 45 days. So I don't think there is to much to worry about."

"you should follow the same precautions as you would post T3 cycle. That is increase calories, keep the diet clean and reduce total volume of exrecise. Cardio should be first thing in morning as a pretty high intensity to increase metabolism throughout the day. If you continue to diet like you have when on Triac, of course your thyroid will decrease in function."

"Decreasing calories downregulates the thyroid, increasing them after peroids of dieting raises thyroid output, leptin and a host of other functions. Rebound is an always an issue, thats why you keep your diet EXTREMELY clean. These are standard practices used with T3 that people should know before they start tinkering which their thyroid."
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So, in short, the consensus is that one bottle of Trimax (90x2mg) can be used to great effect by eating submaintainence calories (or carb-cycling) while on androgens, 4mg a day for about 3 weeks. That way one bottle lasts two cycles, $22-30 each. Recovery shouldn't be an issue.
:goodpost::goodpost::goodpost:
 
Kristopher said:
4mg ed?? on 3 i thought i was gonna explode
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I think you are confused. Each capsule is 2mg, so 4mg is 2 capsules in a day. You were doing 6mg when you thought you were going to explode.
 
lol i remeber reading about guys taking 12mgs of triax when it came out..i also remeber duchaine claiming it was almost impossible to od on triacanna..but he loved dnp so who knows..lol.. i made the stupid mistake of drinking a beer when i was out with my friends one night so i didnt look like the stick in the mud..everyone was chilly as we were close to a door but i was sweating profusely to the point the girl iw as talkign to asked if i was ok..
 
Thanks for clearing that up strateg0s.. makes more sense now

Speaking of sweating.. man i was sleeping in a room that was around 15 celcius at night and was still tossing off the covers and wanting to open the window more...
that was on 6mg.. never again.
 
Is this stuff on the ban list? I'm thinking not, but you never know. Would love to grab a bunch if it's gonna die with the ban.
 
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