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Trenazone? Transdermal Tren (Dienalone)

BarbellBeast said:
I did 1ml for the first couple weeks. Took it to 2ml and that was definitely the sweet spot for me.. Didn't go any higher than that tho.
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Sounds good bro

I will probably stay at 1.5ml for a bit and see how that goes
 
sup BB. You happen to run blood tests? I recall someone here said this stuff was hepatotoxic.

BarbellBeast said:
I did 1ml for the first couple weeks. Took it to 2ml and that was definitely the sweet spot for me.. Didn't go any higher than that tho.
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Bigchourico said:
I am terribly sorry i feel so stupid, I just realized what i wrote and i'm completely wrong. What i meant to say was that by you not going to the doctors for 15 years, that makes you an excellent ROLE MODEL for all the other 52 year olds who don't wanna catch things while they are still easy enough to fix, that way they can find out later when it's too late and then they can just die.. my bad. I hope that you accept my sincere apology i was wrong, you are No fool.
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I hate when you fuggers use the internet to insult people .... do you walk up to people you don't know and call them fools azzhole!! You know what would happen!! I'm not saying I would win cuz I don't know you either I'm just saying that shyte would hit the fan!!
 
Typically, I'd share your sentiment but some have reported elevated liver enzymes (can't find the posts - I know I read this somewhere). Only reason I'm concerned is that I like to save my liver for fun oral runs you know? :)

BarbellBeast said:
It's non methylated, I'm not too worried about it as opposed to running SD or other methyls.
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MidwestBeast said:
No need for a pissing match.

Let's get this back to topic: Trenazone
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Sorry I just can't stand these fuggers using the internet to insult folks, and I don't take shyre from people... part of being alpha and I'm extra aggressive on the Trenazone lol you know I've never had trouble from anybody on this board in the 9 years I have been part of it.
 
Oh and concerning the doctor thing, yah it's maybe not the wisest thing not to see a Doctor at my age but I do have an explanation. First of all the medical service up here is hideous and it's impossible to get a family doctor if you don't already have one from years gone by. So you have to use these clinics and that means very long waits, were talking hours. Secondly to me doctors are people you see when somethng is wrong and I have been sor incredibly healthy for the past 15 years. I get a cold about once every 7 years, that's about it. I feel like I am 25 and have the libido some 25 year olds would envy. All that being said, now that I am older and decided to start using these substances (after 25 years being natural) I probably should see a doctor. There are other reasons I won't disclose here suffice it to say I am from Ontario living in Quebec and circumstances have it that I would have to go back to Ontario to see the doctor. I am not saying that what I do is wise, but I have my reasons and they are my business and I don't feel I am in any immediate danger at this particular time. After this I will go with much milder products likely. If I do decide to escalate then I will have solution to my current problem alevited.
 
I felt great on Superdrol but when I had a blood test at the end of my cycle I thought my doc was going to put me in the hospital. My liver enzyems were completely out of range as were my kidney readings. I had to level with him about my Ph usage. He gave me six weeks and we did another blood test and things were returning to normal. The point is that you can't always go by how you feel.
 
Yah it's things like this that have me thinking about such things. I try to stay on the milder side and load up on my support supps but I know that's not going to enough in the long run.
 
Epi is an ER beta antagonist. ER beta receptors are antiprolific as far as the prostate is concerned. In other words they protect against prostate growth and some believe prostate cancer. This is why I keep cautioning people about the use of Epi.
 
BBB said:
Epi is an ER beta antagonist. ER beta receptors are antiprolific as far as the prostate is concerned. In other words they protect against prostate growth and some believe prostate cancer. This is why I keep cautioning people about the use of Epi.
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Ok I get where you're coming from, this is the last time I will likely be using it but it's good to know if it crosses my path again.
 
How have you been dosing your Trenazone DW? And how have the gains been for you? I'm in the middle of week 2 and have increased vascularity but not much on strength yet.
 
RickRock13 said:
How have you been dosing your Trenazone DW? And how have the gains been for you? I'm in the middle of week 2 and have increased vascularity but not much on strength yet.
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Strength gains have been steady and fairly obvious but not insane. Recomp has been amazing with some very high quality size gain very dry. I am up 4 lbs near the end of week 3 first week was very low dose .5 ml then week 2 was 1.5 and this week is 2.0 where I will stay. I think the coming week should be my best week. I do believe I am a couple lbs leaner than when I started. I am lean gains 3400 and 2400 cals so that seems to be the sweet spot for me. I don't think I will have to raise cals any more. My macros are around 50 25 25 so I get lots of protein in.

Oh yah deninite increased vascularity and some nice muscle hardness that I have never seen on me before, I am pretty lean so that may be a factor...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Strength gains have been steady and fairly obvious but not insane. Recomp has been amazing with some very high quality size gain very dry. I am up 4 lbs near the end of week 3 first week was very low dose .5 ml then week 2 was 1.5 and this week is 2.0 where I will stay. I think the coming week should be my best week. I do believe I am a couple lbs leaner than when I started. I am lean gains 3400 and 2400 cals so that seems to be the sweet spot for me. I don't think I will have to raise cals any more. My macros are around 50 25 25 so I get lots of protein in.

Oh yah deninite increased vascularity and some nice muscle hardness that I have never seen on me before, I am pretty lean so that may be a factor...
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DW I've found 2ml to be the sweet spot for me too. Considering bumping it to 3ml on the last week, possibly ;)

Also the vascularity & hardness is no joke. I got veins all over the place, granted I'm very lean right now tho too... It's awesome. No sides at all for me with this product. Only thing I don't like about trena is the carrier.
 
BarbellBeast said:
DW I've found 2ml to be the sweet spot for me too. Considering bumping it to 3ml on the last week, possibly ;)

Also the vascularity & hardness is no joke. I got veins all over the place, granted I'm very lean right now tho too... It's awesome. No sides at all for me with this product. Only thing I don't like about trena is the carrier.
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Yah I don't know much about the carrier but it can't be that good if were are administering 150 mg daily...
 
BarbellBeast said:
Ya, kinda what I thought. I seen a log on another board where a guy was taking over 3mls a day!
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That does seem pretty high, on thing I would be carefull of is the aggression is pretty intense... I might try 2.25 or 2.5 near the end but 3 sounds a little crazy.
 
DreamWeaver said:
That does seem pretty high, on thing I would be carefull of is the aggression is pretty intense... I might try 2.25 or 2.5 near the end but 3 sounds a little crazy.
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I agree about the aggression. People on the road are pissing me off to no end, and I've been wanting to hit a few aholes at work.
 
RickRock13 said:
People on the road are pissing me off to no end, and I've been wanting to hit a few aholes at work.
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Hmm...I'm like this on a regular basis.

Perhaps Trenazone will push me over the edge and I'll finally start flipping cars at red lights... :thinking:
 
MidwestBeast said:
Hmm...I'm like this on a regular basis.

Perhaps Trenazone will push me over the edge and I'll finally start flipping cars at red lights... :thinking:
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Yah I'm on edge most of the time on this. I am a bit agressive by nature but not too bad...
 
I have been using this for about 2 weeks. 4 to 6 sprays rubbed in.
Lost some weight in midsection even though I am hungry all the time and eat a lot (semi healthy food-no sweets)
Muscles a firmer but not much larger.
So far a good product
 
Thanks for the update.

dirtwarrior said:
I have been using this for about 2 weeks. 4 to 6 sprays rubbed in.
Lost some weight in midsection even though I am hungry all the time and eat a lot (semi healthy food-no sweets)
Muscles a firmer but not much larger.
So far a good product
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Little update... What I really love about this product is the vascularity and hardness it brings. The pump is pretty sweet too. Size gains are steady now about 2-3 lbs a week on a lean bulk with no fat gain. Thee is no noticable sides at all which is strange cuz normally I would be experiencing a drop in libido by this time along with a shrinking of testes but nada in either department. So shutdown may not be that harsh not outright anyway. I stayed with 2 ml that seems to be enough. Pity about the carrier would love to see someone pick this up with a better carrier would be a real winner. I have some progress pics, I was a bit watery and white and not pumped but you can see some good size gain...

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Dang dude. Looking good! Age?
 
DreamWeaver said:
Little update... What I really love about this product is the vascularity and hardness it brings. The pump is pretty sweet too. Size gains are steady now about 2-3 lbs a week on a lean bulk with no fat gain. Thee is no noticable sides at all which is strange cuz normally I would be experiencing a drop in libido by this time along with a shrinking of testes but nada in either department. So shutdown may not be that harsh not outright anyway. I stayed with 2 ml that seems to be enough. Pity about the carrier would love to see someone pick this up with a better carrier would be a real winner. I have some progress pics, I was a bit watery and white and not pumped but you can see some good size gain...

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I've got to admit you look pretty good for an old b@stard that never goes to the Doctor!
 
looking good dreamweaver!!!!! have you considered/thought about T-3 PCT by Need to build muscle.tren is known to lower t3 and is pretty rough on your thyroid function.I'm also up to hearing your thoughts on t3-pct as it seems like a great product that could be used for quite a few things.
 
mich29 said:
looking good dreamweaver!!!!! have you considered/thought about T-3 PCT by Need to build muscle.tren is known to lower t3 and is pretty rough on your thyroid function.I'm also up to hearing your thoughts on t3-pct as it seems like a great product that could be used for quite a few things.
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I hadn't thought of that, definitely don't want low T3 going into a prep...
 
Hmmmm. I would have suspected Thyroid activity being ramped UP not down from Tren. Otherwise, what is the regularly reported fat loss from?

On Tren, many eat more but lose body fat. How else can this elevated thermogensis/lipolysis/metabolism be explained other than thru the Thyroid pathways being manipulated (and it is NOT from the increase in muscle mass).

mich29 said:
looking good dreamweaver!!!!! have you considered/thought about T-3 PCT by Need to build muscle.tren is known to lower t3 and is pretty rough on your thyroid function.I'm also up to hearing your thoughts on t3-pct as it seems like a great product that could be used for quite a few things.
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Whacked said:
Hmmmm. I would have suspected Thyroid activity being ramped UP not down from Tren. Otherwise, what is the regularly reported fat loss from?

Many eat more but lose body fat. How else can this elevated thermogensis/lipoysis/metabolism be explained other than thru the Thyroid pathways being manipulated (and it is NOT from the increase in muscle mass).
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Yah I seem to be more prone to losing rather than gaining on this as well.
 
I read on another forum where (Tren) Dienolone was one of the few PH's that can cause permanent endocrine disruption. No references were given. Has anyone ever heard of this before?
 
jbryand101b said:
this is from another poster on a diff forum.



I dont have the email I sent, but it was responded too pretty quickly, I had asked when it was going to be in stock. I recieved a reply saying it was now in stock, ready to ship. that was the first week of dec though. they may be oos now, dont know. hope not.
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Sounds like this should simply be a faster and stronger acting version of Tren-Extreme..I'm down! I put on 14lbs with the oral, ph version!
 
BBB said:
I read on another forum where (Tren) Dienolone was one of the few PH's that can cause permanent endocrine disruption. No references were given. Has anyone ever heard of this before?
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I know that it put my sex drive in the toilet.
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vidapreta said:
I know that it put my sex drive in the toilet.
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Mine is unusually high and it's been almost weeks which is very strange cuz it usually drops off after a couple weeks. No shrinking in Testes either another odd thing cuz usually I lose a little volume.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Mine is unusually high and it's been almost weeks which is very strange cuz it usually drops off after a couple weeks. No shrinking in Testes either another odd thing cuz usually I lose a little volume.
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I'm experiencing the same thing. High libido and zero shrinkage.
 
RickRock13 said:
I'm experiencing the same thing. High libido and zero shrinkage.
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And you're at the end of week 4 as well I believe. What's really wierd is I am taking Epi-strong and that usually causes some of these kinds of sides near the end of the cycle but not this tiem while using the Tren product. Not saying understand it, just telling it like it is..

Again have to comment on the hardness and vascularity, man...
 
You guys dosing once/day only? and are you both still at 2ml?

BarbellBeast said:
DW I've found 2ml to be the sweet spot for me too. Considering bumping it to 3ml on the last week, possibly ;)

Also the vascularity & hardness is no joke. I got veins all over the place, granted I'm very lean right now tho too... It's awesome. No sides at all for me with this product. Only thing I don't like about trena is the carrier.
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RickRock13 said:
I'm experiencing the same thing. High libido and zero shrinkage.
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Although way back when, the Methyldienolone didn't really bother my libido. That's kinda strange now that i think about it.
 
I just finished a bottle of trenazone and I am pretty pleased with it. The bottle only lasted 18 days due to the fact that the 1ml dose was not enough but once I went to 2ml I could definitely tell a difference. No sides at all. Next time there will be two bottles on hand!
 
ANYONE have ANY of the typical-tren-related sleep issues whatsoever?
 
Is this actually supposed to be like tren? Or is it just a name? Cause I liked tren but not the side effects
 
jamesm11 said:
Is this actually supposed to be like tren? Or is it just a name? Cause I liked tren but not the side effects
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Mostly the name, though some of the effects have been compared to tren (though at a much more minimal scale, obviously). Great for strength, aggression and recomping.
 
MidwestBeast said:
Mostly the name, though some of the effects have been compared to tren (though at a much more minimal scale, obviously). Great for strength, aggression and recomping.
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Look at it like this. Trenbolone belongs to a family of synthetic testosterones called the "NOR" hormones. Nandrolone or "Deca" is also in this same family. Yet, Trenazone is not either one of these but similar to both. It's Dienolone instead. It's pure Dienolone and does not convert. The old oral Tren's were something else that effectively converted to Dienolone at a rate of something around 40% (I think), which is exactly why you had to take 100+mg/day often times to get results. About 2 years ago, this pro-steroid was banned, but the Dienolone was not. And since the FDA is stupid and didn't ban what the pro-steroid converted to, companies started R & D on how to make straight Dienolone effective at the bioavailability.

Trenazone is special in that Altaeus Labs found a way to make pure Dienolone very bioavailable with their "special" transdermal applicant. It has a rate of 40-70% bioavailability which is pretty darn good. Pretty much mimicks the old X-Tren, but with a transdermal system that releases it in a longer half-life which reduces the side-effects. Same concept as Trenbolone Acetate and Enanthanate. You can take Tren-E to avoid the hardness of it's sides because it has a much longer half life and your blood lipids don't spike quite as drastically as it would on Tren-A. And finally, to answer the question about Trenazone as compared to Trenbolone A & E, it's stronger than Deca but a little weaker then Tren. Also, Trenbolone is the most dry while Deca is considerably wet and Dienolone is right in between.

Scale of 0-10 (10 being strongest)

Trenbolone - 10
Dienolone - 7
Nandrolone - 4
 
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