Dustin07
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it's also made me rethink the quiet goal in the back of my head "315lbs at 190bw". Definitely a "is the juice worth the squeeze" situation...
To Infinity.... and Beyond!
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kjscatch
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You inspired me today. I didn’t hit a bench PR as I had no spotter. 245 went up super fast but 275 felt heavy AF. I was going to go straight to 295 but no way with no spotter.
Then I squatted. Hit 345 which is a PR since I was in my 20’s and on PH’s. Honestly maybe could have got 365 which would tie an all time PR. I didn’t want to push the lower back as I started to lean forward a tad as I was coming up.
I was hoping to go for a DL all time PR today but that is not happening. After hitting a reps PR of 405x3 three weeks ago it has been downhill ever since. Barely got 385x1 last week. I haven’t hit my rep goals the last two weeks.
Then I squatted. Hit 345 which is a PR since I was in my 20’s and on PH’s. Honestly maybe could have got 365 which would tie an all time PR. I didn’t want to push the lower back as I started to lean forward a tad as I was coming up.
I was hoping to go for a DL all time PR today but that is not happening. After hitting a reps PR of 405x3 three weeks ago it has been downhill ever since. Barely got 385x1 last week. I haven’t hit my rep goals the last two weeks.
Segansational
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Congrats on the PR! 305 is awesome. Onwards and upwards brother! Inspiring work. About to go fuel up and hit a bench session...
Hyde
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So here’s a dirty little secret about ‘benched X at Y bodyweight’: these guys are small, built to bench, and have actually bulked up significantly to get to that strength level.
The young man doing 405 at 165 typically started at 135 soaking wet; he slowly built 30lbs+ of hard-earned lean mass to get where he is now.
When guys no longer want to get bigger, they often cut down to bench a better power:weight ratio, but they’re getting weaker from an absolute level. Say they bench 500 at 260lbs, but can get down to ~235 and cut to 220 to do 465. It’s now over 2x bodyweight & a better coefficient, but he still gave up 35lbs busting his hump to stay strong as possible as he lost weight.
So recognize that you would be falling into group B to do 315 at 190, which means you need to probably bench it at a higher bodyweight first, or it will take far longer to actually do 315 if not. 315 at under 200 might be more practical, as at least you aren’t losing weight to find that last 10lbs.
Dustin07
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Well I see a bunch of y'all got in 1/1/25 lifts yesterday, and it never really occurred to me that the day was much different from any other. I did enjoy a fantastic day of rest of the wife though, she did a reverse sear on some tenderloin steaks we had from the cow we butchered this year and she found these HUGE prawns, like 8"+ (uncooked) for $10 so instead of going out to any parties or expensive dinners on NYE etc we had surf and turf for dinner last night. I tell you what, my wife can cook!! Her food is always better than the stuff we buy when we go out.
Man you and I have very very similar numbers. my best bench/squat/pull are 305/360 or 365 I can't remember/485
I was starting to develop some very similar thoughts...
Man you and I have very very similar numbers. my best bench/squat/pull are 305/360 or 365 I can't remember/485
thanks brother, happy new year!
same to you!!Happy New Year
I was starting to develop some very similar thoughts...
kjscatch
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Ya but I weigh 60lbs more! That will change though this year.
Dustin07
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Just put it to good use. My buddy outweighes me by 60 or 70lbs. Right now he's at 295/470 for bench and deads so I still have him there, but he has an astonishing 500lb squat recently. Since he started hitting higher volume with me in 2024 his bench shot up like 45lbs last year from around 245/250 to 290 on Dec 26th, then he PR'd again at 295 on NYE with me.
GreenMachineX
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Excellent!!! What’s been your total kcal and carb intake recently?
GreenMachineX
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I took a look around but don’t see it. Do you have a log?
Dustin07
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I honestly don't count, I just eat more when I'm on a strength cycle and eat less when I want to cut a few. I keep protein, mostly actual meat, as my staple and if I'm needing to drop 10 I'll go 20:4 with the occasional 36hr fast on rest days....
Dustin07
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Bench - FAFO session with my boy
15 x bar, 95
5 x 135
2 x 185, 225
1 x 265, 280, 295
Slingshot
1 x 315, 315, 325 (PR tie)
Board press (2)
3 x 250
Raw
10 x 225
Squats
10 x bar
5 x 95, 135
1 x 185, 225, 245, 265, 285, 305
Fronts
5 x 95, 95, 95
(Just teaching my boy)
Note
Just fooling around with my boy. He almost had a 215lb bench (PR) today with mild assistance then DID PR his squats at a clean AF 285. He moved it 10x faster than me
We bailed early to hit the arcade
Weight is 195 today, down 3lbs for no apparent reason or effort.
15 x bar, 95
5 x 135
2 x 185, 225
1 x 265, 280, 295
Slingshot
1 x 315, 315, 325 (PR tie)
Board press (2)
3 x 250
Raw
10 x 225
Squats
10 x bar
5 x 95, 135
1 x 185, 225, 245, 265, 285, 305
Fronts
5 x 95, 95, 95
(Just teaching my boy)
Note
Just fooling around with my boy. He almost had a 215lb bench (PR) today with mild assistance then DID PR his squats at a clean AF 285. He moved it 10x faster than me
We bailed early to hit the arcade
Weight is 195 today, down 3lbs for no apparent reason or effort.
Dustin07
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Deads
10 x 135
5 x 185, 225, 275
8 x 315
(Beltless, ROM practice day)
Seated DB curls
4 x 12
SS with H/S shrugs
4 x 15
Lat pull downs
3 x 15
Cable curls
5 sets
(Various forms, experimenting with ROM and stimulus)
21s
2 sets
Just sorta chill day getting back into routine. Weight 195
I realized I have not deadlifted in a while since I've focused energy effecienty on bench and squats. Normally 315 would be belted for me, but for whatever reason things just felt light today. I was very winded, maybe dehydrated, but all in all this was a nice session to slip back into routine.
we spent a bit of time playing around with different implements trying to find the right rom for a cable curl and see if we could different stimulus. I definitely felt like I had a great bicep pump. I also think that had I been belted, I could have easily gone for a monster set on that 315, like 15+ reps. I was shocked at how well everything broke the ground.
10 x 135
5 x 185, 225, 275
8 x 315
(Beltless, ROM practice day)
Seated DB curls
4 x 12
SS with H/S shrugs
4 x 15
Lat pull downs
3 x 15
Cable curls
5 sets
(Various forms, experimenting with ROM and stimulus)
21s
2 sets
Just sorta chill day getting back into routine. Weight 195
I realized I have not deadlifted in a while since I've focused energy effecienty on bench and squats. Normally 315 would be belted for me, but for whatever reason things just felt light today. I was very winded, maybe dehydrated, but all in all this was a nice session to slip back into routine.
we spent a bit of time playing around with different implements trying to find the right rom for a cable curl and see if we could different stimulus. I definitely felt like I had a great bicep pump. I also think that had I been belted, I could have easily gone for a monster set on that 315, like 15+ reps. I was shocked at how well everything broke the ground.
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akboom87
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That’s interesting how the deads felt so light and great within not being the focus of attention.
I don’t know why but on cable curls I’m finding if I stand with my back to the pulley and cable through the legs seems to be hitting
gphagan1
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Congrats on you and your son’s PRs….looks like you guys are starting 2025 with a bang.Bench - FAFO session with my boy
15 x bar, 95
5 x 135
2 x 185, 225
1 x 265, 280, 295
Slingshot
1 x 315, 315, 325 (PR tie)
Board press (2)
3 x 250
Raw
10 x 225
Squats
10 x bar
5 x 95, 135
1 x 185, 225, 245, 265, 285, 305
Fronts
5 x 95, 95, 95
(Just teaching my boy)
Note
Just fooling around with my boy. He almost had a 215lb bench (PR) today with mild assistance then DID PR his squats at a clean AF 285. He moved it 10x faster than me
We bailed early to hit the arcade
Weight is 195 today, down 3lbs for no apparent reason or effort.
Dustin07
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somewhere in between.. I never took my hands off the bar, but worked to slow impact on the descent, no bouncing, etc, locking hips and back into place. I was a little bit more aware of form since this is normally a weight where I'd be belted.
yeah told my buddy, lets just get some reps in at 225 so we don't lose the ROM, and we kept going lol
that's about where I'm finding it's best although I think what I actually want is to be able to stand further back than that even. if the pully cable was not in the way of my back then I'd back up 1-3" further I think ideally.I don’t know why but on cable curls I’m finding if I stand with my back to the pulley and cable through the legs seems to be hitting
for real! he squats today at school so I'm trying to figure out if I can get him to squat this weekend. 2x per week is really great for him right now.Congrats on you and your son’s PRs….looks like you guys are starting 2025 with a bang.
Dustin07
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Bench
5 x 135
8 x 160
8 x 190
5 x 225
3 x 250
3 x 270
Board (2)
3 x 270
5 x 245
Incline db
12 x 45s, 50s,
15 x 55s
+ 10 x 42.5s dropset
OH cable ext Rope attachment
3 sets roughly to failure
Pec deck
3 sets
Kettlebell armbars
Few sets per side.
Shoulder felt a little fucky on the 270 set so I pulled it a little short there and finished with kettlebell armbars as a "just in case" prehab.
5 x 135
8 x 160
8 x 190
5 x 225
3 x 250
3 x 270
Board (2)
3 x 270
5 x 245
Incline db
12 x 45s, 50s,
15 x 55s
+ 10 x 42.5s dropset
OH cable ext Rope attachment
3 sets roughly to failure
Pec deck
3 sets
Kettlebell armbars
Few sets per side.
Shoulder felt a little fucky on the 270 set so I pulled it a little short there and finished with kettlebell armbars as a "just in case" prehab.
MrKleen73
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Try putting on a single handle and step out so your hand is actually behind your back pulling your biceps into a stretch and do curls from that deep stretch. You will thank me later. Even better if you have dual pulleys and can do both arms at once to save time.That’s interesting how the deads felt so light and great within not being the focus of attention.
I don’t know why but on cable curls I’m finding if I stand with my back to the pulley and cable through the legs seems to be hitting
Dustin07
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so funny, my last two sets were what you just described actually. it's one of those machines with a cable pully on each side so two people could be doing say tricep extensions or one person can reach both for curls. it was a weird sensation, not the burn I love from like say 21s, but massive bloodpump
its a different machine than the hack squats, I feel like with the v squats I get a deeper rom that its way more focused on the quads, adductors, and balls if I go to deep before I'm warm. my quads were shaking today. I personally feel like I am getting more training stimulus from the v squat machine than the hack squat machine allthough both can be miserable when done enough lol..
Hyde
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Hey I didn’t want to busy Seg’s log up, but do you take a vitamin D3 supplement? You were talking about the lack of it in winter and it made me consider you might actually trying to be relying solely on that year round, which is not a valid strategy for optimal male health generally.
MrKleen73
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Ah got ya, I have called this thing so many things. Some companies call it a True Squat, some call it a Power Squat. Either way, if I could only have one machine for legs, and wasn't dealing with a spinal compression issue this would be it. Great for quads, adductors, glutes, hamstrings, and even calves. I love doing a modified good morning on that thing facing in. It not only allows you to push up, but forward with the movement really engaging the glutes and hammies better. A person could build a really solid set of legs with that machine alone!
Dustin07
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I do have vitamin D but have been horrible about remembering to take it. but can you elaborate on what you mean about relying on it? Do you mean relying on the supplementation or relying on actual sunshine?
Yesterday we had a warm day, like 47f, and beautiful blue bird skies with the sun out. it's crazy how much my energy level and mood improve on a day like that! felt great to hit some balls at the range.
It's a pretty good/hard machine. I can actually stack a fair amount of weight on it depending on the depth of ROM i'm aiming for. My buddy likes to bottom it out and hit bottom, I will at light weight but generally I consider myself OK if I'm breaking parallel.
Yesterday I hit the driving range for the first time in ages to try to kick off 2025 after work. Between that and my squat session my body is worked today! LOL. Longest drive reached 293 yards which feels pretty good this early in the season fighting the cold air with range balls after a gym session. If I had to guess I'd say thats way beyond normal for me in January.
akboom87
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Also curious to this question as well.
Hyde
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I mean if you’re not living in a southern state you should not be relying on sunshine to maintain healthy D3 levels year round. Even people who work outside often won’t store enough to get through winter well, and that’s the time it’s most critical to deal with all the viruses going around. People who died from COVID generally had low D as well as varying levels of metabolic/cardiovascular disease.
I recommend everyone get their D3 tested annually, so you know what you’re working with, but many people will benefit from a supplement. And you’d get tested again to make sure you’re taking enough (and not too much). Most people need 2-5,000iu D3, taken with a meal containing fats, daily to stay above a deficient range (you want levels between 30-100). I need 10,000+iu, and currently use 14k iu to stay around 70s. Some people don’t need any.
You don’t really get healthier being higher in that range, but you can suffer many consequences being low - immune, cardiovascular, bone, and hormonal consequences.
If you supplement with D3, also supplement with K2 at 180mcg same time - this ensures calcium gets deposited in the bones by D3, not the arteries. This is also why SNS Cardiovascular Support XT contains both D3 & K2.
Dustin07
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Good stuff, I've never (that I can recall) tested or at least observed results on D before, but last time I recall my wife's blood work covering it it was literally the only low metric she had. Of course everyone just laughed it off and said "welcome to washington" but at the time she and i did make a better push on the supplemenation.
I have NatureMade at my desk, they're 1000iu but I can take a few, actually 5 at a time if you think 5k is the way to go. Just popped some right now, so thank you for the reminder
Yeah I do recall the COVID discussion around vitamin D and remember that when I tested positive I was in Arizona at the time in beautiful weather and nobody in the areas I was in gave 2 $hits about it, but maybe they had a better scenario for handling it naturally. I know my COVID experience was incredibly mild. almost entirely a nothing burger except for about 12 hours of no taste and 4-7 days of no smell.
Hyde
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For now, until you get some K2 to pair with a larger dose (and ideally a blood test), I’d just take 2,000iu once a day with/after a meal containing some fat. That’s a good safety net that’s not going to do anything drastic but will still help ensure things go in the right direction.Good stuff, I've never (that I can recall) tested or at least observed results on D before, but last time I recall my wife's blood work covering it it was literally the only low metric she had. Of course everyone just laughed it off and said "welcome to washington" but at the time she and i did make a better push on the supplemenation.
I have NatureMade at my desk, they're 1000iu but I can take a few, actually 5 at a time if you think 5k is the way to go. Just popped some right now, so thank you for the reminder
Yeah I do recall the COVID discussion around vitamin D and remember that when I tested positive I was in Arizona at the time in beautiful weather and nobody in the areas I was in gave 2 $hits about it, but maybe they had a better scenario for handling it naturally. I know my COVID experience was incredibly mild. almost entirely a nothing burger except for about 12 hours of no taste and 4-7 days of no smell.
Segansational
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I did not know that about the K2 piece. Will pick some up to go alongside my D3.
SkRaw85
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Peas and carrots.
Dustin07
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Now I'm craving roast and mashed potatoes
SkRaw85
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akboom87
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Throw some biscuits in there and got a full Sunday meal!
MrKleen73
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Man, some biscuits and gravy with spicy sausage sound fugging amazing right about now!!!
Hyde
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It’s all about the gravy baby!
Dustin07
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Squats
10 x 95
5 x 135, 185
1 x 225, 265, 295, 315
Powercleans
10 x 95
1 x 135, 165, 185, 205, 225
Bench
15 x 95
5 x 135, 185
1 x 205, 225, 245, 265, 275
10 x 225
Notes
My gym gear has been sitting in the freezing cold car all week but it's been early to work and late to home with a skeleton crew so no lunch breaks. Just need to get the routine/habit kick-started again
My boy is 1RM'ing in school today on squats, cleans, and bench so I thought I'd throw down some as well.
Kept bench in a "safe" zone since my spotter is out sick this week.
10 x 95
5 x 135, 185
1 x 225, 265, 295, 315
Powercleans
10 x 95
1 x 135, 165, 185, 205, 225
Bench
15 x 95
5 x 135, 185
1 x 205, 225, 245, 265, 275
10 x 225
Notes
My gym gear has been sitting in the freezing cold car all week but it's been early to work and late to home with a skeleton crew so no lunch breaks. Just need to get the routine/habit kick-started again
My boy is 1RM'ing in school today on squats, cleans, and bench so I thought I'd throw down some as well.
Kept bench in a "safe" zone since my spotter is out sick this week.
Dustin07
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That looked like a good workout…..225 lbs Powercleans is no joke.
Hope your son comes back with some new PRs.
He did, last week he got 225lb for bench and today he squatted 300lbs. (PR) he said it was pretty easy but they didn't have time to add weight for another attempt so this sunday when we have our bench session I'll split it with Squats and give him a shot at 315 if his form looks good on the way up....
not sure if I mentioned but I went cheap on his new lifters. Since I was torn between flats vs heels, and uncertain of his long term commitment to the sport, I didn't want to drop $200 on his first pair. I got these "Cores" because they had good reviews and opted to go with heals because the guys at school had him squatting on 5lb plates anyways so I figured for now, go with it.
He must love them, because he takes them around in their shoebox. at first I thought he hadn't worn them yet, but then after he squatted he took them off and put them back in their original box to keep them clean.
akboom87
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He’ll yeah that’s awesome! He is laying great a great foundation and you guys get to spend quality time with something you both enjoy!He did, last week he got 225lb for bench and today he squatted 300lbs. (PR) he said it was pretty easy but they didn't have time to add weight for another attempt so this sunday when we have our bench session I'll split it with Squats and give him a shot at 315 if his form looks good on the way up....
not sure if I mentioned but I went cheap on his new lifters. Since I was torn between flats vs heels, and uncertain of his long term commitment to the sport, I didn't want to drop $200 on his first pair. I got these "Cores" because they had good reviews and opted to go with heals because the guys at school had him squatting on 5lb plates anyways so I figured for now, go with it.
He must love them, because he takes them around in their shoebox. at first I thought he hadn't worn them yet, but then after he squatted he took them off and put them back in their original box to keep them clean.
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Dustin07
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When I was 16 my dad got me a membership at the gym he went to before work, we'd take separate cars, meet there and lift then he'd go to work and I'd go home and shower for school. Hopefully this lays the same ground work!
GreenMachineX
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How old is your son?He did, last week he got 225lb for bench and today he squatted 300lbs. (PR) he said it was pretty easy but they didn't have time to add weight for another attempt so this sunday when we have our bench session I'll split it with Squats and give him a shot at 315 if his form looks good on the way up....
not sure if I mentioned but I went cheap on his new lifters. Since I was torn between flats vs heels, and uncertain of his long term commitment to the sport, I didn't want to drop $200 on his first pair. I got these "Cores" because they had good reviews and opted to go with heals because the guys at school had him squatting on 5lb plates anyways so I figured for now, go with it.
He must love them, because he takes them around in their shoebox. at first I thought he hadn't worn them yet, but then after he squatted he took them off and put them back in their original box to keep them clean.
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Dustin07
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He's 15
I misread his last log and didn't open it up all the way. I thought he hit 300 and I was wrong, dude has a 315 squat already.
GreenMachineX
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Excellent. My son and daughter are both getting back into lifting and getting stronger, so seeing this gives some goals for my son at least (he’ll be 13 in a couple weeks).