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MrKleen73 said:
Oh okay, that I can see as manageable. What a beautiful place to spend a day of golfing!!!!
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oh man it's gorgeous. it was about double what we normally spend for a round of golf so I'm not going there regularly but honestly... after seeing golf prices in Arizona during the winter season, I'll never complain about Washington golf prices again!
 
Warm up
DB curls, DB rows, DB RDLs

Front Squats
10 x bar, 95, 115
5 x 135, 165, 185, 195
3 x 205

Back squats
3 x 5 x 225

Front squats again
+ Red band
5 x 8 x 95lb
(Wow)

EZ bar curls
4 x 25 x 50lbs
(Wow lol first set was easy. Wasn't sure last set was even doable)

Leg ext
10 x 10
Adding weight first five sets
Drop setting last five minimal rest


Notes
Weight 200
Weight belt on hole 1 (yikes lol)
Forgot knee sleeves which made it a challenge

Doing fronts first totally gave me all new quad activation going into the back squats.

Not a bad session. Walked in feeling gassed, left feeling worked

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Well my renpho decided it knew who I was today but was confused by the jump in weight since the last time it synced

I wish it had worked Monday morning when I clocked 200.

Decided I could walk my dog for LISS today and that would be healthier for she and I both instead of gym treadmill, glad I did.

Round trip down to the beach and back in about 45 min. Ran the stop watch on my phone. Meant to just walk 15 minutes and turn around but we were so close to the beach I kept walking. Warmest day we have had since October!!



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@Hyde / @MrKleen73
How does fasted LISS effect your energy level? the only downfall I can see is that last night i was quite tired. fell asleep slightly easier than usual for a fasted evening. My wife surprised me by joining me for a 36-48hr push. I didn't even know she was fasting until dinner time when she made a tea lol. She apparently has been reading up and one couple said that once they went into ketosis one of them fell right asleep but the other one found a burst of energy and felt wired. the 45minute walk with my dog really wore me out. I was HIGH energy this morning at 5am when I got up, but started immediately pounding carbs for the gym today.

Monday 200lbs
Tuesday 36hr fast. included 3 glasses of water with 1/2 tspn of salt in each and lemon drops. (and a ton more fluid aside from that)
Weds 194.6lbs
 
@Dustin07 That experience is exactly why I mentioned doing a LISS session and a then golfing probably being too much during the fast. I have found that just to burn off a little extra energy with activity my walks are the most efficient way to do so without impacting recovery or causing serious fatigue. I mean the fast is doing the heavy work for the deficit. I have not done true LISS with my heart rate elevated enough to be aerobic or cardiovascular exercise since I started pushing the 36 hour fasts. However, I am easily knocking down 300 calories or more in an hour of walking. Improving health, and getting in some good listening on my audio books or being alone with my thoughts of feeling introspective. I see it almost as a therapeutic activity at this point with an added bonus of both active recovery, and creating a larger deficit.
 
Also, congrats to the wife for doing her first fast, and apparently without any complaints!
 
MrKleen73 said:
That experience is exactly why I mentioned doing a LISS session and a then golfing probably being too much during the fast. I have found that just to burn off a little extra energy with activity my walks are the most efficient way to do so without impacting recovery or causing serious fatigue.
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yeah tomorrow I booked 9 holes at 4pm with my buddy. I'll skip prior LISS and walk the course with him after work in the sun. I might take a diet coke or something for a little caffeine. probably be home around 6-6:30 and at that point can wind down and not worry about being exhausted

Friday is going to be harder, I have a weird schedule so I might try to get my deadlifts in early before work... <gasp>

MrKleen73 said:
Also, congrats to the wife for doing her first fast, and apparently without any complaints!
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I told her if she wakes up wanting to keep the fast going then when she pours coffee I'll just have black coffee with her (vs my normal collagen). she did see a slight change in the scale. woke up fasted, and opted for early morning cardio. I'm happy for her if this works out. I like her how she is, not sure I want her to lose any weight personally tbh, but if it makes her feel better i'm all for it.
 
Dustin07 said:
I told her if she wakes up wanting to keep the fast going then when she pours coffee I'll just have black coffee with her (vs my normal collagen). she did see a slight change in the scale. woke up fasted, and opted for early morning cardio. I'm happy for her if this works out. I like her how she is, not sure I want her to lose any weight personally tbh, but if it makes her feel better i'm all for it.
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I totally get this sentiment!
 
MrKleen73 said:
I totally get this sentiment!
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I've never seen a woman look worse with an extra 10lbs lol ;););):devilish::devilish::devilish:

but man if this works and helps light a fire of motivation for her it would be great for us both cause accountability. we are really good at being co-dependent enablers, if we drink WE DRINK, when we don't drink we DONT DRINK lol. we are a pretty good team when it comes to mashing our lifestyle together.
 
That is awesome. My wife sees me as extreme, so she doesn't join in on my dieting methods even when working out, but she is supportive of me regardless. She reminds me of my goals and plans when I am about to mess up my plan by eating poorly or if I am just not motivated and she thinks I am about to put training off for a BS reason. So it works out really well. It would probably be easier on us to hit goals if we did the same thing as you all. However she has had eating disorder tendencies ever since she was a young girl due to her mother bring a professional dancer, owning a studio, and being obsessed with staying rail thin to look good as a dancer. So she was both anorexic and bulimic at different periods throughout her teen and adult life. When I opted to go for the 60 hours she gave me the side eye, and mentioned didn't you fast for 2 days already? I then have to reassure her that I have real reasons, and a real plan of attack. That this is not a compulsive reaction to body dysmorphia and I have a pretty good relationship with food. I mean you don't have to fill your car up everyday to keep driving it. Well unless you drive a friggin ton!
 
MrKleen73 said:
@Dustin07 That experience is exactly why I mentioned doing a LISS session and a then golfing probably being too much during the fast. I have found that just to burn off a little extra energy with activity my walks are the most efficient way to do so without impacting recovery or causing serious fatigue. I mean the fast is doing the heavy work for the deficit. I have not done true LISS with my heart rate elevated enough to be aerobic or cardiovascular exercise since I started pushing the 36 hour fasts. However, I am easily knocking down 300 calories or more in an hour of walking. Improving health, and getting in some good listening on my audio books or being alone with my thoughts of feeling introspective. I see it almost as a therapeutic activity at this point with an added bonus of both active recovery, and creating a larger deficit.
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Yeah when I do LISS I do not focus on any particular heart rate or wearing myself out - the deficit of just not eating over time is the mover, and whatever excess I can generate from pedaling or walking while I am just watching Youtube or listening to a podcast I’m enjoying is bonus.

When JM Blakley would drop from 300lbs to 220 in 12 weeks, he would take 4 hour long walks, or stationary bike & such, daily. Doing lots of visualization/mental training. You can’t do high intensity anything while also being in your head - what made it all effective was the sheer contrast in caloric output vs intake. 4 hours of LISS is still 4 hours of LISS, & combined with a steep deficit it works.

MrKleen73 said:
I totally get this sentiment!
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Yeah I prefer my wife fatter the better, but I know she likes being a lightweight so I always support her. She makes me happy no matter what, and I know that diets always end and snacks will always exist - I play the long game
 
MrKleen73 said:
60 hours she gave me the side eye, and mentioned didn't you fast for 2 days already? I then have to reassure her that I have real reasons, and a real plan of attack. That this is not a compulsive reaction to body dysmorphia and I have a pretty good relationship with food. I mean you don't have to fill your car up everyday to keep driving it.
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the more I dig into fasting the more reasons I have to favor it:

1. might be 4x more muscle sparing. this is probably my number one favorite point.
2. allows me to eat better on lifting days. this is so much better than a 7 day deficit
3. 10 other health benefits that come from fasting, autophagy etc.
4. mental focus, discipline development. It's a completely new form of training that I'm trying to embrace and truly think it's incredibly valuable because of the mindset it forces you to develop.
5. admittedly, it's faster. worst justification, but it just works.

Hyde said:
When JM Blakley would drop from 300lbs to 220 in 12 weeks, he would take 4 hour long walks, or stationary bike & such, daily. Doing lots of visualization/mental training. You can’t do high intensity anything while also being in your head - what made it all effective was the sheer contrast in caloric output vs intake. 4 hours of LISS is still 4 hours of LISS, & combined with a steep deficit it works.
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It's hard for me to believe that I'm on a cut if I'm not throwing in some sort of extra cardio SOMEHOW, but yes the LISS has a million great benefits such as the freedom to study, podcast, walk the dog, walk with the wife, study spanish. the list goes on and on. a part of me does think I need to have some HIIT in my life somewhere though for general health.

Hyde said:
Yeah I prefer my wife fatter the better, but I know she likes being a lightweight so I always support her. She makes me happy no matter what, and I know that diets always end and snacks will always exist - I play the long game
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I may or may not have been told once I liked a girl thicker cause it was my way of making sure no other man would want her lol. yet every single man I know would rather some meat on the bones haha. I truly don't care at the end of the day, I'm attracted to a healthy woman regardless of shape/size but some cushion and curves definitely get the motor running.
 
GreenMachineX said:
When you guys talk about LISS, what speed and incline are we talking about?
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I average 2.5-3mph treadmill with 5 minimum incline to 10/11 maximum.
if i get bored I might throw in 1/10th or 1/4th mile jogs at 1 incline and 6-8mph speed. but that's rare.
yesterdays walk was about 2+ miles total. first mile was downhill to the beach. the uphill return was enough to make me sweat. I actually lost 1/2lb on accident just walking for 45 minutes. yes I weighed before and after lol
 
Dustin07 said:
I average 2.5-3mph treadmill with 5 minimum incline to 10/11 maximum.
if i get bored I might throw in 1/10th or 1/4th mile jogs at 1 incline and 6-8mph speed. but that's rare.
yesterdays walk was about 2+ miles total. first mile was downhill to the beach. the uphill return was enough to make me sweat. I actually lost 1/2lb on accident just walking for 45 minutes. yes I weighed before and after lol
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Gotcha. Ok, I need to ramp it up a bit then. My warm up walk is usually 2-3 incline and 3.2mph. My cardio afterwards is the same as yours though, 5-10 incline and 3mph. But, nowhere near as long. I space my walks out during the day, 1 mile around the neighborhood first thing, some at lunch and some at night with a 10k step goal. Maybe i need some more with my current kcal.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Gotcha. Ok, I need to ramp it up a bit then. My warm up walk is usually 2-3 incline and 3.2mph. My cardio afterwards is the same as yours though, 5-10 incline and 3mph. But, nowhere near as long. I space my walks out during the day, 1 mile around the neighborhood first thing, some at lunch and some at night with a 10k step goal. Maybe i need some more with my current kcal.
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My warmup walks at the gym are 3 incline and 3.2-3.4mph. It’s just a warmup for 5-10 min tops.

If I walk in my neighborhood it’s probably 3mph with lots of varying grades.

On the cycle at home, I keep my speed between 16-19mph continuously, with resistance wheel set at 5 out of 10, because that’s just what I enjoy.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Gotcha. Ok, I need to ramp it up a bit then. My warm up walk is usually 2-3 incline and 3.2mph. My cardio afterwards is the same as yours though, 5-10 incline and 3mph. But, nowhere near as long. I space my walks out during the day, 1 mile around the neighborhood first thing, some at lunch and some at night with a 10k step goal. Maybe i need some more with my current kcal.
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It's been a long time since I did post workout cardio in a true bodybuilding cut style. back then I found a minimum of 30 minutes led to results, 40+ melted fat. but the speeds were always about the same 2.5-2.7mph and 5+incline. I don't have long legs (might help my deadlift) so I see people walking crazy fast and I'm like ok if I'm walking at a 3+ then screw it, I'm just gonna run lol
 
Dustin07 said:
I average 2.5-3mph treadmill with 5 minimum incline to 10/11 maximum.
if i get bored I might throw in 1/10th or 1/4th mile jogs at 1 incline and 6-8mph speed. but that's rare.
yesterdays walk was about 2+ miles total. first mile was downhill to the beach. the uphill return was enough to make me sweat. I actually lost 1/2lb on accident just walking for 45 minutes. yes I weighed before and after lol
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This for me except adding in the jogging. I am saving that for later if I need it.
Dustin07 said:
This is me, my hip shape makes any walking at 3 or above very high effort. I have a shorter stride so it becomes A LOT of steps. Walking next to my wife at her comfortable 4mph I look like a dachshund trying to keep up with a greyhound even at 3.5mps. LOL I normally set my speed to 2.8 and then bump up the ramp if I have more in the tank. Outside I just walk at a brisk but comfortable pace, right around 2.6-2.8 would be my guess there.

GreenMachineX said:
Gotcha. Ok, I need to ramp it up a bit then. My warm up walk is usually 2-3 incline and 3.2mph. My cardio afterwards is the same as yours though, 5-10 incline and 3mph. But, nowhere near as long. I space my walks out during the day, 1 mile around the neighborhood first thing, some at lunch and some at night with a 10k step goal. Maybe i need some more with my current kcal.
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If just walking and trying to use it for weight loss and not fasting maybe shoot for 15000+ steps. I read or watched somewhere they were recommending 20-25,000 steps a day for very aggressive weight loss if you don't want to up the intensity on cardio.
Hyde said:
My warmup walks at the gym are 3 incline and 3.2-3.4mph. It’s just a warmup for 5-10 min tops.

If I walk in my neighborhood it’s probably 3mph with lots of varying grades.

On the cycle at home, I keep my speed between 16-19mph continuously, with resistance wheel set at 5 out of 10, because that’s just what I enjoy.
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Yep, my walks are at varyuing grades but I try to make it as much uphill as i can by doing a figure 8 around the walking path. Other than that I walk the ramps in the parking garage for a lot more time spent at an incline.
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Boy I messed that up, my response are in between the quotes.
 
OHP
10 x 95
5 x 115, 135, 155

Bench
10 x 95, 135
5 x 175, 205
3 x 9 x 225

+ Red band
3 x 6 x 185
(Holy cow)

No band
20 x 135

TRI rope extensions
4 x 20

Ss ez bar curls
4 x 20

I could have stayed for another hour but I was with a coworker and needed to set a good example on timeliness at work lol

Needless to say the pump was INSANE.

will post more shortly.
 
OK Holy F'ing $HIT.
Can't lift my arms lol. yes the ez bar was only 50lbs but 20, 20, 20, 25 reps. and they were fast. were not for TUT. the pump was insane. I sorta wish I had it in me to take a pic at the gym but I just couldn't. my buddy even said holy **** man you're looking huge. I literally got stuck in my shirt and almost had to ask him to help get it off 😅😅😅😅

My day.
finished 36hr fast at 6am this morning (so probably 34-35hr fast technically)
weighed in at 194.6lbs. down 5.4 since monday morning, but really down about 3 since Monday night.

started immediately with left over rice, flour tortillas, and left over cooked potatoes with leftover steak we had.
breakfast at 7am at work. ground turkey with 1 cup jasmine rice.
+ carnitine (oral)
+ creatine (SNS HCI)
full sugar creamer in my coffee.
1 cup jasmine rice snack at 9am
5 pumps Ultra Hard at about 10:15am
Pump Addict (love you @sns8778 ) preWO at 11am.
Hit the gym at 11:15am

just felt swole and confident and aggressive AF even though my neck hurts like a mofo (must have slept funny).
I WANTED 10 reps again on the 225 but I failed the 10th so I revised my approach for the day and said i'll do 3x9 I want a massive volume hypertrophy day as hard as I can.

wish I had time to pound out another hour of work today. would have hit inclines and more tricep work for sure.
I could tell today at 225lbs how much more my triceps were doing than in the past, that extra work is paying off for sure.

After workout my office shirt which fit a little loose this morning is too tight on my arms 😅😅

just a damn fine day. super happy to be able to say that after the fasting experiment.

dapack said:
Finally spring it seems in the PNW!!!! Hopefully at least. Sick of the cold and rain.
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Hyde said:
Yeah that beach photo from his walk looked awfully nice out!
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supposed to be 81F Friday when I go golfing!!!! Last Saturday it was 50F and intermittent rain and that was a WARM day lol today is the warmest day since last OCTOBER!
 
Dustin07 said:
supposed to be 81F Friday when I go golfing!!!! Last Saturday it was 50F and intermittent rain and that was a WARM day lol today is the warmest day since last OCTOBER!
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Funny, here in Houston we hit 89 in March.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Funny, here in Houston we hit 89 in March.
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no need to rub it in, Ser. there is a reason why I was in Arizona 4 times and Mexico once, in the last 7 months lol.
Anytime i can justify a work trip I AM OUT OF HERE lol.

right now I might have to go to Guadalajara in May for a couple days for work "have to". I love mexico so much.
 
Sounds like a "horrible" trip. LMAO
 
question regarding TD's to @MrKleen73 and @Hyde
I recall last time I was using a lot of UH on the shoulders, traps area having a stiff neck. all the sudden today it's back with a vengeance. any possiblity of a connection? should I consider lathering that stuff on somewhere else like the legs?

I ordered some epi lean from Steve so I'll be running oral instead once that arrives for the rest of this cycle. I think TD's in general are hard on my skin even though I love the physical results.

I have rubbed a lot of the UH on my arms as well. any possibility that's connected to the recent size/pump growth?

MrKleen73 said:
Sounds like a "horrible" trip. LMAO
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I'm trying like hell to finagle a way to get my wife to go with me. like 1 day I'll be working so I want a hotel with a pool for her but then stay one day to walk around and explore central mexico a bit!
 
Thanks for tagging me. I'm glad that you're enjoying Pump Addict.
 
I have not heard of the issue with a stiff neck due to application site before, but that does not mean it is not having that effect on you for some reason. Also, a chance you are lifting your head off the bench or something during hard pressing and may have just aggravated something in your neck. I would try it elsewhere and see if you have the same issue, just avoid the nipples since you already know they don't like it. Keep in mind you will need to take a lot more a day with the oral it has far less bioavailability than the TD's, like less than half. Aveeno Dry Skin Therapy lotion might fix up what it does to your skin. I has like 3 type of oats in it and keeps my eczema at bay when bad.
 
Also other than the fact you have recently added more volume into your arm training I doubt the new mass and bigger pumps have too much to do with the UH. It is going to go systemic, not really localized, and although you will grow a little faster from it, it is not a mass driver. More of a strength / androgenic driver/hardening agent.
 
MrKleen73 said:
. Also, a chance you are lifting your head off the bench or something during hard pressing and may have just aggravated something in your neck.
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unfortunately the neck stiffness started before I was even lifting today so it's either bad luck with my pillow or UH lol. I have an indent on the bench I use where I have started putting my head cause it helps me align forward enough of the bar to get a good hand off when working heavier weights. sometimes lifting makes a stiff neck get better, sometimes worse.. but today I both lifted and applied UH so I can't single one out lol

with the pill form of epi I was hoping to use it daily vs just preWO like I do now with UH. I'll, likely experiment with doses a week at a time to see how I respond as well.. will definitely keep the log updated of course.
 
Ironically, the pill is better as a preWO/pre-sex because it’s more of a quick spike. I have used 1,200mg/day in the past, in a bigger stack. It’s just not a compound that builds tissue directly. If you lift more weight though, you will build more muscle by doing more work.
 
Hyde said:
Ironically, the pill is better as a preWO/pre-sex because it’s more of a quick spike. I have used 1,200mg/day in the past, in a bigger stack. It’s just not a compound that builds tissue directly. If you lift more weight though, you will build more muscle by doing more work.
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I do feel like the UH 1-2hrs preWO has been great but I've used it as much as 7hrs preWO because i had meetings all day and still had a fantastic workout. I'll keep this in mind for sure, thanks!
 
Yeah, me personally I would not run oral Epi less than 900 a day to get a decent effect unless I had other compounds in there too. That would also increase fat burning rates, alongside stimulating a little new extra muscle growth.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah, me personally I would not run oral Epi less than 900 a day to get a decent effect unless I had other compounds in there too. That would also increase fat burning rates, alongside stimulating a little new extra muscle growth.
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Everyone is definitely entitled to their personal opinions, but I can tell you based on real world customer feedback that 600 mg. is the dosage at which most people feel the best and get great results.

There are many people that do love 900 mg., but also going up to 900 mg. for some people is when they find the positive mood benefit that they love at 600 mg. tends to go away some.

I have every incentive to say - cool, yeah, go with 900 mg. - because the more people use, the more bottles we sell, but I'm being honest and saying that for me personally, my next run of it I seriously doubt will go over 600 mg. and if I do, it would be for the mid few weeks of an 8 week cycle of it; not the entire duration.

As far as other compounds being taken with Epiandrosterone, I'm not sure why there is the notion that that is a must, except back in the old methyl ph days, Epiandrosterone was considered a good 'stacker' - but that meant that it was a better choice for stacking it with methyl's because it was one of the few options that wasn't a methyl, not because anything necessarily needed to be stacked with it. A lot of people enjoy Epiandrosterone with a natural test booster like M-Test or Optimize-T; probably the stack we hear that most feedback on with it is Stano-Plex (Epiandrosterone) being stacked with M-Test and Anabolic Effect.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah, me personally I would not run oral Epi less than 900 a day to get a decent effect unless I had other compounds in there too. That would also increase fat burning rates, alongside stimulating a little new extra muscle growth.
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I've been getting itchy again this week all the sudden since bringing back the UH so all I can figure is it's the andro ingredient. moving to Steves epi only product lets me narrow that down a bit... nipple shape is different on different days when I'm using UH so I feel like I need to be careful with that. really sucks cause the UH is an amazing preWO so I hate to say good bye to it but might not be worth the risk
 
@Dustin07 Yeah, you might be having a reaction to it or something in the TD solution itself. They use some type of mint solution, and some other things that have to make the skin permeable. I don't know of too many TD solutions that don't have some type of effect on the skin other than emu oil based TD which you don't see too often.

@sns8778 Yeah, I can see how a lot of people could enjoy the product with 600mg, but me having run methyls, oils and SARMS, I am probably either less sensitive or just have a higher expectation of what I want out of a cycle than many who are natty, or have only had experience with andros. I always just had to use more to get similar results to what I want or expect on it. I kind of go for bang for your buck, so I tend to want to spend less on stronger although honestly less healthy options.

May be worth adding into something at that 600 dose for me, or to supplement my TRT. I may try this soon. Luckily, I do not lose any of that feel good sensation at 900, it feels like the perfect dose for me.
 
MrKleen73 said:
@sns8778 Yeah, I can see how a lot of people could enjoy the product with 600mg, but me having run methyls, oils and SARMS, I am probably either less sensitive or just have a higher expectation of what I want out of a cycle than many who are natty, or have only had experience with andros. I always just had to use more to get similar results to what I want or expect on it. I kind of go for bang for your buck, so I tend to want to spend less on stronger although honestly less healthy options.

May be worth adding into something at that 600 dose for me, or to supplement my TRT. I may try this soon. Luckily, I do not lose any of that feel good sensation at 900, it feels like the perfect dose for me.
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I'm glad that it works well for you at that dose.

I just always try to post in a way that I'm trying to help people that may be reading a post now or in the future, and I don't want anyone using it thinking that they 'need' to use 900 mg. of it or use other compounds with it and then missing out on the dosage that does provide great results for a lot of people.

One of the great aspects of Epiandrosterone is that it makes a lot of people feel great and its relatively mild - so I didn't want anyone reading to think that they necessarily have to take more than they may need to.
 
sns8778 said:
I'm glad that it works well for you at that dose.

I just always try to post in a way that I'm trying to help people that may be reading a post now or in the future, and I don't want anyone using it thinking that they 'need' to use 900 mg. of it or use other compounds with it and then missing out on the dosage that does provide great results for a lot of people.

One of the great aspects of Epiandrosterone is that it makes a lot of people feel great and its relatively mild - so I didn't want anyone reading to think that they necessarily have to take more than they may need to.
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No, that makes complete sense, and is very honorable! That is why I mentioned for me personally, however I should have probably classified that with the information I put in the response to yours in the original one. Explaining why I felt that way.
 
You win some you lose some.
Yesterday I did manage to maintain the full 36hr fast. Fit in 9 holes of fasted golf (walked not carted) followed by dinner engagement (zero calories consumed). Woke up feeling amazing.

Today was to be deadlift / pull / back day, but I have work stuff first thing in the a.m. and then golf with a customer at 10am, then off to pick up my boy after school, home and another social function tonight at like 6pm (at least its not a fasted day). so while nutrition was a big win yesterday, I'm not going to make it to lift today.

Weight: 193.6lbs (fasted of course, before eating this morning).
 
Warm up
Bb curls, shrugs, rows, RDLs

Deads
10 x 135
5 x 325, 275, 315, 365, 405
1 x 425

RDL
10 x 315

+ Redband
2 x 8 x 275
(Scorchy!)

Bb rows
3 x 10 x 135

EMOTM Ez bar curls
10 x 10 x 70lbs
+ 20 bonus reps at 50lbs

Leg ext
5 x 10-15

Star Trac unilateral rows
3 sets

Lat pull downs
3 x light sets

Notes
Since bringing uh back noticed nipple itch and a little misshape again on the right one. Woke up today after 5 days of no UH feeling best I have so unfortunately I'm not confident in that product for me.

Only hitting preWO stim and Steve's Anabolic XT today for supps and it felt like a great workout IMO


Definitely feeling additional quad recruitment in the deads since I started making quad work a priority! Weird! Lol


Squat belt back comfortable to a loose 2nd hole

Weight at 196, so down 4lbs this week overall.

Strength seems equal to or better than the week prior.

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