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To Infinity.... and Beyond!

Warm up, empty bb

Power cleans, RDLs, OHO, rows

Deads
10 x 135
2 x 5 x 225
5 x 275, 325
3 x 375
10 x 315

RDLs
3 x 10 x 225

BB rows - snatch grip
3 x 10 x 135

Back extensions
15 x bw
10 x +35, +40

Superset with hammer curls
12 x 35s, 40s, 45s

Ez bar curls
10 x 80, 80
+ 10 x 60 dropset

Laying leg curls
3 sets

Adductor machine
3 x 10+20 to 130lbs
10 at 160lbs
(Solid progress here)

Notes
Cold barbell was hard on the hands today!

Weighed in at 193.8 fully fed. Feeling pretty good. Strength only down a tiny bit for the most part.

Weight loss definitely taking it's toll, but leaning up nicely.



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I have noticed the pumps don’t seem to be very equal in amount. I was a little nervous my first application as it was a bit more runny then I anticipated, but dries really good. I was looking today to see if there was a way to re use an empty XPG bottle, doesn’t look like it though.

let me know how you come out on cutting the bottle and the syringe application goes, in case I have to go that route sometime!
 
akboom87 said:
I have noticed the pumps don’t seem to be very equal in amount. I was a little nervous my first application as it was a bit more runny then I anticipated, but dries really good. I was looking today to see if there was a way to re use an empty XPG bottle, doesn’t look like it though.

let me know how you come out on cutting the bottle and the syringe application goes, in case I have to go that route sometime!
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So between apex, iconic and XPG, XPG is hands down the best imo.

I've run dermacrine, sustain alpha a few times, ultra hard a couple times and this is my first failed bottle. I should have stick with XPG Epi but I wanted to give the andro another try.
 
Dustin07 said:
So between apex, iconic and XPG, XPG is hands down the best imo.

I've run dermacrine, sustain alpha a few times, ultra hard a couple times and this is my first failed bottle. I should have stick with XPG Epi but I wanted to give the andro another try.
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I’m enjoying the alpha 7 so far, feel good on it and good application, no complaints yet. Be interesting to see after the run what my results will be.

I agree though on the pump/bottle XPG hands down has it beat.
 
akboom87 said:
I have noticed the pumps don’t seem to be very equal in amount. I was a little nervous my first application as it was a bit more runny then I anticipated, but dries really good. I was looking today to see if there was a way to re use an empty XPG bottle, doesn’t look like it though.

let me know how you come out on cutting the bottle and the syringe application goes, in case I have to go that route sometime!
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Yeah, that is pretty typical with the pumps. The idea is it will average out about right over the pumps.
Dustin07 said:
My only complaint about the UH this time, aside from the broken bottle, is that I'm not "feeling" it at all like I did the first time.
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Yeah, unfortunately you never get that first time on feeling back on the same compound. Doesn't actually mean it is less effective so much as your body has already learned to adjust to the feeling. You doses are higher now than previously, and more consistent as well so that also leaves more time for the adjustment, and also less time at lower levels so you don't feel the peaks and valleys like when you did it pre-workout only.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah, unfortunately you never get that first time on feeling back on the same compound. Doesn't actually mean it is less effective so much as your body has already learned to adjust to the feeling. You doses are higher now than previously, and more consistent as well so that also leaves more time for the adjustment, and also less time at lower levels so you don't feel the peaks and valleys like when you did it pre-workout only.
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that all makes sense. I might have to play with a different toy in March or April after I have some time to finish this and reset for a while. Still seems like a good product though. I feel like my strength levels and lean mass are holding pretty well despite dropping 10lbs this month already.

Speaking of which, hoping for a woosh. I'm at 35hrs fasted right now and it has me back down to 192lbs. I have found pickle juice tastes very good when fasting 😅. But this is the third time I have hit 192 (my low) so I am considering running this fast out to 60+hrs for a little extra oomph. Since it's friday and I'll be at work all day, I find it's much much easier to fast vs the weekends when I'm either home or on a date with the wife or something.
 
Dustin07 said:
that all makes sense. I might have to play with a different toy in March or April after I have some time to finish this and reset for a while. Still seems like a good product though. I feel like my strength levels and lean mass are holding pretty well despite dropping 10lbs this month already.

Speaking of which, hoping for a woosh. I'm at 35hrs fasted right now and it has me back down to 192lbs. I have found pickle juice tastes very good when fasting 😅. But this is the third time I have hit 192 (my low) so I am considering running this fast out to 60+hrs for a little extra oomph. Since it's friday and I'll be at work all day, I find it's much much easier to fast vs the weekends when I'm either home or on a date with the wife or something.
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Go for it if it fits your schedule.
 
Dustin07 said:
that all makes sense. I might have to play with a different toy in March or April after I have some time to finish this and reset for a while. Still seems like a good product though. I feel like my strength levels and lean mass are holding pretty well despite dropping 10lbs this month already.

Speaking of which, hoping for a woosh. I'm at 35hrs fasted right now and it has me back down to 192lbs. I have found pickle juice tastes very good when fasting 😅. But this is the third time I have hit 192 (my low) so I am considering running this fast out to 60+hrs for a little extra oomph. Since it's friday and I'll be at work all day, I find it's much much easier to fast vs the weekends when I'm either home or on a date with the wife or something.
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Getting closer to joining the dark side ? Muhahahha 😂 just messing with you man
 
Dustin07 said:
probably not too dark. my wife and I have an agreement. I can't pin if she can't get botox, lol.
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Dr Mike Isreatel actually has a video on first cycle selection, and believe it or not he recommends an oral, something like Anavar. Good way to dip your toes in the pool and if things go wrong you stop and it is out of your system in no time. Not recommending you jump on gear but the injections are definitely not required to get into the dark side.

Also why the hell would she want to break her eyebrows like that. "Ma'am, your eyebrows are broken they don't seem to move." The ones that really make me laugh are the ones who;s either drop low so they look like Oscar The Grouch all the time or the opposite and they end up high and permanently surprised. I want to see expression in a woman's face. Not a ceramic forehead.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Also why the hell would she want to break her eyebrows like that. "Ma'am, your eyebrows are broken they don't seem to move." The ones that really make me laugh are the ones who;s either drop low so they look like Oscar The Grouch all the time or the opposite and they end up high and permanently surprised. I want to see expression in a woman's face. Not a ceramic forehead.
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she's coming around, it helps when she sees people who have ridiculous amounts of work done compared to people who just age gracefully. personally I don't think people even start to look their best until they reach 40, then they all go try to look like they did when they were 16. all awkward and knees and elbows again with no character, lol.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Dr Mike Isreatel actually has a video on first cycle selection, and believe it or not he recommends an oral, something like Anavar. Good way to dip your toes in the pool and if things go wrong you stop and it is out of your system in no time. Not recommending you jump on gear but the injections are definitely not required to get into the dark side.
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The main real world problem with this is most newbies don’t have the experience to understand that half the UGL Var out there is actually low-dosed Dbol. And they think a Roidtest is some expensive or elaborate thing, not $30 and easier than a home COVID test. So they can’t figure out why they are getting itchy nipples or holding water on ‘Anavar’.

So the caveat is, don’t be a stupid potential steroid user. You can’t control getting fake gear, but you can avoid ingesting it.
 
Hyde said:
The main real world problem with this is most newbies don’t have the experience to understand that half the UGL Var out there is actually low-dosed Dbol. And they think a Roidtest is some expensive or elaborate thing, not $30 and easier than a home COVID test. So they can’t figure out why they are getting itchy nipples or holding water on ‘Anavar’.

So the caveat is, don’t be a stupid potential steroid user. You can’t control getting fake gear, but you can avoid ingesting it.
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That is the site he recommended to me. So probably.
 
Dustin07 said:
so if I did want var, you'd suggest this? Invalid Link Removed
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Yes. I am not exaggerating when I say half of the Var I’ve ordered ends up testing as Dbol. And not necessarily in useful doses - just a bit will be enough for someone to feel something. A couple mg will of Dbol will start blowing a woman up, but that’s not what you’d want to use for your first cycle. Total waste of time.
 
Closing in on 48hrs fasted and weighed in at 192 again. Kudos to me for staying hydrated but it is interesting how I have this stall point. I was already planning on making it a 60hr+ and it's 6pm now so we will see what manana brings.

I've bounced off 192 like three times now so it's sorta interesting.
 
Dustin07 said:
Closing in on 48hrs fasted and weighed in at 192 again. Kudos to me for staying hydrated but it is interesting how I have this stall point. I was already planning on making it a 60hr+ and it's 6pm now so we will see what manana brings.

I've bounced off 192 like three times now so it's sorta interesting.
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That’s like me my body has been fighting me so hard to dip below 223!

I bet you get a whoosh effect tonight
 
akboom87 said:
That’s like me my body has been fighting me so hard to dip below 223!

I bet you get a whoosh effect tonight
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I wouldn't mind it lol. My wife finally dropped below her sticking weight today. We were looking at her renpho stats and she had been stuck at the same number for a year now, so maybe I'll follow suit
 
Dustin07 said:
I wouldn't mind it lol. My wife finally dropped below her sticking weight today. We were looking at her renpho stats and she had been stuck at the same number for a year now, so maybe I'll follow suit
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7 day fast bro, if you starve long enough you will drop
 
Dustin07 said:
I wouldn't mind it lol. My wife finally dropped below her sticking weight today. We were looking at her renpho stats and she had been stuck at the same number for a year now, so maybe I'll follow suit
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My wife finally broke though her sticking point too! W00t!
 
Bench
20 x bar
10 x 95, 135
5 x 185
1 x 215,
2 x 245
1 x 275

Slingshot
1 x 290, 305 (bit of a grinder)

Raw
7 x 225
15 x 185
20 x 160
(Just used my boys weight)

Tri push downs
3 sets
+ 2 dropsets

Superset with
DB laterals
12 x 30s, 35s
10 x 40s
Dropset 10 x 30s

Dip machine
3 sets

LISS
20min incline


Notes
Finally broke through, my 192 low is now my fed high. While strength numbers are now down enough that I can't deny it, it FEELS more like an energy deficiency. Not super worried.

225 for instance felt like I could have had ten but was gonna fall asleep at 5, lol.

Always a good Sunday session with my boy.
 
Dustin07 said:
Bench
20 x bar
10 x 95, 135
5 x 185
1 x 215,
2 x 245
1 x 275

Slingshot
1 x 290, 305 (bit of a grinder)

Raw
7 x 225
15 x 185
20 x 160
(Just used my boys weight)

Tri push downs
3 sets
+ 2 dropsets

Superset with
DB laterals
12 x 30s, 35s
10 x 40s
Dropset 10 x 30s

Dip machine
3 sets

LISS
20min incline


Notes
Finally broke through, my 192 low is now my fed high. While strength numbers are now down enough that I can't deny it, it FEELS more like an energy deficiency. Not super worried.

225 for instance felt like I could have had ten but was gonna fall asleep at 5, lol.

Always a good Sunday session with my boy.
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Whewwww! Nice work on the fast, congrats on the re feed number!
 
Congrats on the progress.
 
Warmup
Power cleans
5 x 95, 135, 165, 185

Deads
5 x 225, 275
1 x 315, 345, 375
5 x 405
8 x 316

BB rows
3 x 10 x 145

EZ bar curls
4 x 10 x 70
(TUT focused on eccentric)

Hammer curls
10 x 35s, 40s, 45s
(Awesome pump)
+1 drop set supinated DB curls

Lat pull downs
3 sets
+ 1 dropset


Notes
Singles today cause the cold barbell has been crazy painful on the hands. Good call cause that 375 started hurt so I figured I had one give all set left...

Might have had 7-8 reps in me but form might have gone to ****. All in all felt good. I think all time best is only 405 x 6 so hey.

Two observations:
2nd fed day is noticeably higher performance than first fed day post fast. May seem obvious but, hey.

Also Hydes comments a while back about weight gain having more carryover to bench than the other lifts, if I understood correctly, sure feel accurate.

While bench is suffering some, pulls seem to be much closer to peak performance.
 
Another obvious point but still amazed at the physique difference when carb loaded today vs after three days fasted on Saturday.
 
Some nice pulls! Just out of curiosity did you keep track of how many grams of carbs you reloaded on? Just curious
 
Dustin07 said:
Warmup
Power cleans
5 x 95, 135, 165, 185

Deads
5 x 225, 275
1 x 315, 345, 375
5 x 405
8 x 316

BB rows
3 x 10 x 145

EZ bar curls
4 x 10 x 70
(TUT focused on eccentric)

Hammer curls
10 x 35s, 40s, 45s
(Awesome pump)
+1 drop set supinated DB curls

Lat pull downs
3 sets
+ 1 dropset


Notes
Singles today cause the cold barbell has been crazy painful on the hands. Good call cause that 375 started hurt so I figured I had one give all set left...

Might have had 7-8 reps in me but form might have gone to ****. All in all felt good. I think all time best is only 405 x 6 so hey.

Two observations:
2nd fed day is noticeably higher performance than first fed day post fast. May seem obvious but, hey.

Also Hydes comments a while back about weight gain having more carryover to bench than the other lifts, if I understood correctly, sure feel accurate.

While bench is suffering some, pulls seem to be much closer to peak performance.
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I've noticed that too. Bench and ohp are suffering, but I've set DL and squat PR's oddly enough. How low are you cutting?
 
GreenMachineX said:
I've noticed that too. Bench and ohp are suffering, but I've set DL and squat PR's oddly enough. How low are you cutting?
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He is trying to cut down to "Dead Sexy" it isn't a weight but a look and a feeling! ;)
 
GreenMachineX said:
Nudez to prove it!
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I think he will have to get into the singles for that. He already told us he doesn't do nudes over 10%. We know he is built like a brick shlt house, and just trying to stay humble up in here. ;)
 
akboom87 said:
Some nice pulls! Just out of curiosity did you keep track of how many grams of carbs you reloaded on? Just curious
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if I had to guess based upon historical food measurements it's usually around 150g preWO on day 1, another 100+ postWO and dinner. Instead of 1 scoop of jasmine rice (1 cup) and a bibigo rice bowl (71g carbs) preWO, I've been having 2+ cups of jasmine rice at breakfast with about 1/2lb of meat, then the rice bowl. the breakfast feels crazy heavy in my Tupperware lol. Because I am running nearly ADF style cutting, I'm eating very freely on my feeding days, with my key focus being carbs.

GreenMachineX said:
I've noticed that too. Bench and ohp are suffering, but I've set DL and squat PR's oddly enough. How low are you cutting?
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MrKleen73 said:
He is trying to cut down to "Dead Sexy" it isn't a weight but a look and a feeling! ;)
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Right now I'm more on a timeline than a scale goal. I have 3 full weeks left until we go on vacation.

Sept 2022 = 183.8lbs
Feb 2023 = 187.4lbs (vacation)
Dec 2023 = 207lbs peak weight
Feb 2024 = ??

I wouldn't mind hitting 187lbs, same weight as I was exactly 1 year prior on our vacation. Wherever I land, I am convinced I have 5-10lbs of additional lean mass on me than when I started back in sept 2022.

GreenMachineX said:
Nudez to prove it!
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MrKleen73 said:
I think he will have to get into the singles for that. He already told us he doesn't do nudes over 10%. We know he is built like a brick shlt house, and just trying to stay humble up in here. ;)
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you're killing me 😅😅😅
Getting closer. I was feeling so good in my shirt at the gym yesterday. This month I have felt like I could feel and see my face, arms, and shoulders (unfortunately) getting skinnier. But yesterdays pumps had my sleeves completely filled out despite being down 10lbs, I was super happy about that.

hips are protruding a lot, which seems more like a feminine bikini bridge type attribute to think of, but for me it tells me the spare tire is fading. that little gut area right at and below the belly button is shrinking up sorta fast suddenly this week which is great.

also cardio and explosiveness is getting much easier at this weight than even 10-12lbs ago.
 
Cardio
Incline LISS/HIIT
30 min
300 calories

Adductor machine
15 x 85lbs, 115lbs, 145lbs, 175

(Honestly boring but I feel it's important right now)


Notes
Didn't mean to break into a HIIT session on a fasted day but after a ten minute warm up I had a hankering to run.

Started with some 1 minute dashes at 6mph, increased .5 every other minute to 9mph. 1 min on, one off (approx, with actual goal being to nail 300 cals in the machine at 30min for a fun challenge )
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Been listening to a new Huberman that gets into light therapy for mental health and fighting cancer (I have not made it through the whole thing). That combined with the normal winter doldrums and us going on vacation in a few weeks spurred me to take advantage of a "use as much as you want" deal at the local tanning place postWO today.

i gotta admit the second those hot rays turned on I felt like I was lying on the beach.
 
Dustin07 said:
Been listening to a new Huberman that gets into light therapy for mental health and fighting cancer (I have not made it through the whole thing). That combined with the normal winter doldrums and us going on vacation in a few weeks spurred me to take advantage of a "use as much as you want" deal at the local tanning place postWO today.

i gotta admit the second those hot rays turned on I felt like I was lying on the beach.
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Tanning is immensely relaxing. If it wasn’t so hard on the skin, I would get a bed for the house & do it eod. That being said, it is, so I haven’t tanned in years now. It’s great for hiding/minimizing acne with gear use as well.

Not painting it as all bad, but you really have to stay far away from burning and need to do it for far less duration/frequency than you would probably want to.
 
Hyde said:
Tanning is immensely relaxing. If it wasn’t so hard on the skin, I would get a bed for the house & do it eod. That being said, it is, so I haven’t tanned in years now. It’s great for hiding/minimizing acne with gear use as well.

Not painting it as all bad, but you really have to stay far away from burning and need to do it for far less duration/frequency than you would probably want to.
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Yeah I agree, that's always on my mind so I tend to lean towards their lower powered options for shorter durations. Usually I bet I use one twice a year, around now, before vacation lol
 
I like to tan sometimes as well, especially this time of year but haven't done it much due to time constraints. I normally only go about half the time they allow to avoid burning.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I like to tan sometimes as well, especially this time of year but haven't done it much due to time constraints. I normally only go about half the time they allow to avoid burning.
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yeah I sorta forced myself yesterday as it was next door to the gym and I needed to get out of the office for some sanity at lunch. got my cardio in , then walked next door. I'm so very ready for vacation lol.
 
One handed tricep push downs
4 sets

DB curls
3 sets
(Mostly to warm up elbows)

DB laterals
3 sets

DB forwards
3 sets

Bench
10 x 135
5 x 185
3 x 225, 255
1 x 275
9 x 225 + 1 assisted
12 x 165
15 x 135

(Ran lower weights in the end to rep out on my boys weights instead of changing plates )

Notes
Started with accessories cause my boy was meeting me at the gym after school and running late so I saved bench for when he got there

Weight
Fasted: 189.8 this morning. First time in probably a year sub 190

5 pumps of apex Triton preWO
UltraHard is starting to really dry out application areas.
Finally seeing vascularity come back.
Decent pump. Don't know if it's the carb load or the Triton since I haven't used it much in weeks, maybe months.

Sorta abbreviated / rushed session. In and out in 45 min
 
Ez bar curls
20 x 40, 50
16 x 60
10 x 80

SS with DB RDLs
12 x 60s, 70s, 80s
(Massive forearm pump here)

Deads
5 x 135, 225, 285
1 x 325, 365, 405
3 x 7 x 225

Barbell rows - snatch grip
3 x 10 x 135lbs

Superset with pull-ups (medium width)
3 x 8 x bodyweight

DB Hammer curls
3 x 10 x 40s

Superset with standing DB rows
3 x 10-12 x 40s
(Very light, but very very long ROM focus, deep and high on the pull)

RZ bar curls (more)
12 x 70, 60, 50
(Dropsets, no rest, wide grip)

Lat pull downs
3 sets


Notes
Had a great blow off steam progressive food date with my wife yesterday. We traveled much of Puget sound, visiting four different saltwater fish stores, and a number of Asian restaurants sampling new dumplings etc.

Name of the game today was fun hypertrophy focus to make good use of my current caloric surplus + some deadlift practice.


On a side note, now my wife wants to raise seahorses and I'm excited about the new zooanthids I'll be propagating.



On the weight side.
Low fasted weight this week was 189.
Avg was like 191.8
Today's very fed weight was 195
But my lifting belt made the third hole easily for the first time in forever, it's been stuck on second hole.

My belts journey seen below by 5+ years of indentations around my various cuts and strength cycles
 
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