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THUNDERGOD ROLLS OUT A RECOMP..........REALLY!! (sponsored)

This fasted state workout is really picking up steam! It's probably just a matter of time before I give in to purchasing some AP for this purpose.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
What activity followed your dosing? Fasted training w/ AP works because the body is catabolic [energy producing] not anabolic [energy consuming] during a workout, which is a common misconception. I often hear people say, "Working out for X minutes causes catabolism" when, in reality, catabolism is what you want/need to happen! During a workout your body inhibits anabolic processes [such as protein synthesis which require glucose metabolism and therefore take energy from the system], and increases catabolic processes [such as glycolysis which puts energy into the system] in order to stay in energy homeostasis.

So, what does this mean re: AP and your hypoglycemia issue? Taken in a sedentary state the body is anabolic state, and therefore cells are [let's say for brevity] in a receptive state; fasted, they are in a [again, for brevity] in a productive state: Oxidizing their own stores of glycogen and/or fatty acids in order to place glucose into the system.

Training w/ AP fasted and just taking it and doing regular activities are a whole different ballgame!
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I was training 5 days a week. I never tried training fasted, or just fasting in general on it... I just dosed it one time, forgot to eat my meal 20 minutes later, and went out and tried to run errands. I had probably worked out that day as I was working out in the morning back then. The time I didn't eat I got sluggish, agitated, and extremely hungry. Eating cured this immediately. I never took it without carbs again. I just followed the directions that were given with the bottle. I love the stuff with carbs, and I know people use it with less carbs than I do, I just seem to be sensitive to it if I don't eat some carbs with it. IMO it's a worthwhile product, especially to get in a few carbs if you are on a cut.
 
Mood Music!!

It is necessary for me to evoke or work up the Berzerker Rage. Nothing else will suffice. I don't know how others prepare for battle, but for me this is the only way.
"It Gets Me Through"!! :head:
I can't over-analzye nor over-contemplate this stuff. My Dad used to say, "Go with your gut. (Your instincts). And to think long is to think wrong"!

I merely need the anger and fury of the ancient Berzerkers of my Father Odin to get me through!!

[nomedia]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TW_WGANgA4[/nomedia]
 
Recomp: Day 17

NEW TRAINING PROTOCOL: As Suggested By Mulletsoldier

Training should be utilizing primarily Type IIa fibers: Training in the 8-12 rep range @ 85% intensity. Somewhat shortened rests in between.

NEW WORKOUT

CHEST

FLAT BENCH PRESSES: 315 X 10!, 295 X 11

PEC-DECK FLYES: 210 X 11, 190 X 12

KNEELING CABLE CROSSOVERS: 80 X 10, 70 X 12

STANDING PEC-DECK FLYES: 200 X 15
INCLINE MACHINE PRESSES: 220 X 15

SHOULDERS

MACHINE SHOULDER PRESSES: 240 X 10, 220 X 12

CABLE BAR FRONT RAISES: 90 X 10, 90 X 10

ONE-ARM CABLE SIDE LATERALS: 60 X 10, 60 X 10

ONE-ARM CABLE BENTOVER REAR LATERALS: 75 X 10, 75 X 10

TRICEPS

STANDING PUSHDOWNS: 190 X 11!!, 180 X 11

SEATED ONE-ARM CABLE EXTENSIONS: 90 X 10, 90 X 10

STANDING ROPE PUSHDOWNS: 120 X 10, 120 X 10

First Impressions Of Fasted Training: Very positive!

My energy levels were fantastic. The more I think about fasted training, the more some if it makes practical sense. If you eat a big meal before a workout, your blood flow will be concentrated in your stomach and away from where you really want it. Your working muscles!

The pumps were very nice as well. My muscles seem to fill out very quickly utilizing this fasted protocol. I used lots of warm-ups and stretching as always. Anything worth doing is worth doing right!

Endurance and stamina were spot on. I felt like I could just keep on pumping dat shit out! I cut down my rest time between sets significantly just to really test-drive this new-to-me theory out! I was chomping at the bit anticipating doing the next set.

This first fasted session went great. I think I was only slightly hypo at the very end of the workout. This was also the first time I ever utilized an intra-workout drink. I really liked that. That will continue to be a must-need staple from now on. I like that middle of the road refuel!! It Got Me Through!!

Now it's time for me to go and really fuel up!! Big carbs followed by a big meal!! Oh Yeah!! :food:

Battle On My Fellow Keepers Of The Realm!! :duel:
 
thundergod said:
NEW TRAINING PROTOCOL: As Suggested By Mulletsoldier

Training should be utilizing primarily Type IIa fibers: Training in the 8-12 rep range @ 85% intensity. Somewhat shortened rests in between.

NEW WORKOUT

CHEST

FLAT BENCH PRESSES: 315 X 10!, 295 X 11

PEC-DECK FLYES: 210 X 11, 190 X 12

KNEELING CABLE CROSSOVERS: 80 X 10, 70 X 12

STANDING PEC-DECK FLYES: 200 X 15
INCLINE MACHINE PRESSES: 220 X 15

SHOULDERS

MACHINE SHOULDER PRESSES: 240 X 10, 220 X 12

CABLE BAR FRONT RAISES: 90 X 10, 90 X 10

ONE-ARM CABLE SIDE LATERALS: 60 X 10, 60 X 10

ONE-ARM CABLE BENTOVER REAR LATERALS: 75 X 10, 75 X 10

TRICEPS

STANDING PUSHDOWNS: 190 X 11!!, 180 X 11

SEATED ONE-ARM CABLE EXTENSIONS: 90 X 10, 90 X 10

STANDING ROPE PUSHDOWNS: 120 X 10, 120 X 10

First Impressions Of Fasted Training: Very positive!

My energy levels were fantastic. The more I think about fasted training, the more some if it makes practical sense. If you eat a big meal before a workout, your blood flow will be concentrated in your stomach and away from where you really want it. Your working muscles!

The pumps were very nice as well. My muscles seem to fill out very quickly utilizing this fasted protocol. I used lots of warm-ups and stretching as always. Anything worth doing is worth doing right!

Endurance and stamina were spot on. I felt like I could just keep on pumping dat shit out! I cut down my rest time between sets significantly just to really test-drive this new-to-me theory out! I was chomping at the bit anticipating doing the next set.

This first fasted session went great. I think I was only slightly hypo at the very end of the workout. This was also the first time I ever utilized an intra-workout drink. I really liked that. That will continue to be a must-need staple from now on. I like that middle of the road refuel!! It Got Me Through!!

Now it's time for me to go and really fuel up!! Big carbs followed by a big meal!! Oh Yeah!! :food:

Battle On My Fellow Keepers Of The Realm!! :duel:
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Well done buddy, your on your way, i love fasted training, cant wait to start again, sets you up for the whole day...Now enough allready, go eat TG.:pizza:
 
thundergod said:
NEW TRAINING PROTOCOL: As Suggested By Mulletsoldier

Training should be utilizing primarily Type IIa fibers: Training in the 8-12 rep range @ 85% intensity. Somewhat shortened rests in between.
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NIce! :thumbsup:

NEW WORKOUT

CHEST

FLAT BENCH PRESSES: 315 X 10!, 295 X 11

PEC-DECK FLYES: 210 X 11, 190 X 12

KNEELING CABLE CROSSOVERS: 80 X 10, 70 X 12

STANDING PEC-DECK FLYES: 200 X 15
INCLINE MACHINE PRESSES: 220 X 15

SHOULDERS

MACHINE SHOULDER PRESSES: 240 X 10, 220 X 12

CABLE BAR FRONT RAISES: 90 X 10, 90 X 10

ONE-ARM CABLE SIDE LATERALS: 60 X 10, 60 X 10

ONE-ARM CABLE BENTOVER REAR LATERALS: 75 X 10, 75 X 10

TRICEPS

STANDING PUSHDOWNS: 190 X 11!!, 180 X 11

SEATED ONE-ARM CABLE EXTENSIONS: 90 X 10, 90 X 10

STANDING ROPE PUSHDOWNS: 120 X 10, 120 X 10

First Impressions Of Fasted Training: Very positive!
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Oh gooood stuff TG!

My energy levels were fantastic. The more I think about fasted training, the more some if it makes practical sense. If you eat a big meal before a workout, your blood flow will be concentrated in your stomach and away from where you really want it. Your working muscles!

The pumps were very nice as well. My muscles seem to fill out very quickly utilizing this fasted protocol. I used lots of warm-ups and stretching as always. Anything worth doing is worth doing right!

Endurance and stamina were spot on. I felt like I could just keep on pumping dat shit out! I cut down my rest time between sets significantly just to really test-drive this new-to-me theory out! I was chomping at the bit anticipating doing the next set.
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Yep!

This first fasted session went great. I think I was only slightly hypo at the very end of the workout. This was also the first time I ever utilized an intra-workout drink. I really liked that. That will continue to be a must-need staple from now on. I like that middle of the road refuel!! It Got Me Through!!
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Really? Wow man.. welcome to some new supplementation strategies then bro!

Now it's time for me to go and really fuel up!! Big carbs followed by a big meal!! Oh Yeah!! :food:
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YESSSSS! DIG IT! This is the PERFECT spot to utilize that Pslin brother! (AP as well, but Pslin preferable here!) :)
 
Nice TG. Your 10-12 rep weights are 1 rep max weights for us mere mortals. I just started using an intra-w/o drink myself and really like how the energy stays consistent from begining to end. Old dogs have to always stay open minded to keep up with these young pups...:head:
 
I've seen Rodja use the same 2 set method for strength. Only he progresses from set 1 to set 2. However, for high intensity purposes, a reverse pyramid also makes sense, especially for TG's preferred style of intensity. I may just go ahead and start incorporating that starting my next session, either 2 set progressive or 2 set reverse.... hmmmm...???
 
Just noticed this was also a fasted protocol. Sheeesh, this stuff is spreading like a Southern California fire.

Mullet Militia in full effect these days

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VolcomX311 said:
Just noticed this was also a fasted protocol. Sheeesh, this stuff is spreading like a Southern California fire.

Mullet Militia in full effect these days

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Again, humorous to me. I started this last week, with a few of the people currently on the fasted-training wagon being the ones that gave me a hard time about it (coughdragonflycough)...but NOOOOO, don't listen to IC until Mullet backs him up. :lol:
 
Irish Cannon said:
Again, humorous to me. I started this last week, with a few of the people currently on the fasted-training wagon being the ones that gave me a hard time about it (coughdragonflycough)...but NOOOOO, don't listen to IC until Mullet backs him up. :lol:
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Ah, well I was on the whole Fasted Training kick quite some time ago! B5150, Snagency and jakepelit have been utilizing my program for about 5 months.

EDIT: I believe Snag had used his own version previously, though.
 
Awesome thunder! this past year was really the first time i got away from laddering alot 10/8/etcccc. and even 4x8 type routines and i have implemented the 15/12 reps consistently. I even throw around the 25 reps and step down but I truly think my body builds mass better this way. not so much weight strenght but for sure mass and size. seems odd but it's easier for me. plus i get the cardio aspect from it. i'll go back everynow and then but not near as often. plus the older i get the more my tendons and ligs take a hit with heavy weight.

and I've been dosing Universals Intra-Aid for 4 weeks now and i've gained 5-6lbs. been focusin on legs more which helps but i love the stuff! Keep it up!
 
Bravoboy said:
Awesome thunder! this past year was really the first time i got away from laddering alot 10/8/etcccc. and even 4x8 type routines and i have implemented the 15/12 reps consistently. I even throw around the 25 reps and step down but I truly think my body builds mass better this way. not so much weight strenght but for sure mass and size. seems odd but it's easier for me. plus i get the cardio aspect from it. i'll go back everynow and then but not near as often. plus the older i get the more my tendons and ligs take a hit with heavy weight.

and I've been dosing Universals Intra-Aid for 4 weeks now and i've gained 5-6lbs. been focusin on legs more which helps but i love the stuff! Keep it up!
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I find the same thing. Since I have started 4 sets of 15 reps and do some 20-30 reps things I look much better. I grow bigger and have better muscle shape and cuts when dieting.

I still use days that I go heavy and less reps but it is maybe once every 3 weeks or so to mix it up.
 
I agree with both of you! I used to train like a powerlifter. A lot of 5X5 stuff and some 10X3 sets. And when I shifted from that to more of a bodybuilding type program, I still lifted in the 5 to 8 rep range. And my body didn't change very much. I was power-building! ha ha

Now that my reps are anywhere from 10 to 25, and almost always in the 12 to 15 range, my physique has undergone a nice transformation. Even at my age. I still keep it as heavy as possible. If anyone thinks this method of training is wimpy or easy, they need only give it a try. When you're blasting heavy ass weights at max intensity for high reps, you feel as if you're going to keel over at any minute! It is NOT easy!! :twisted:

Looking back in retrospect, those heavy power-building sessions with the 5 to 8 reps weren't that hard at all really. The set was over very quickly. It didn't wind or fatigue me nearly as bad as this new system does.

And besides, I really want to LOOK like I lift weights. :bb3:
 
I agree on the days I lift heavy it really is easy. But if you ask me to do the same weights with supersets and high reps I can't do it.

It is actually harder to push out more reps when your body is screaming in pain.
 
Morning Fasted HIIT Cardio: 25 minutes. 20 intervals of 30/30 seconds. 30 seconds all-out and then 30 seconds moderately.

ABS

4 SUPER-SETS OF CABLE CRUNCHES WITH LYING LEG RAISES

Each set was 25 reps each. Only 15 seconds rest between each superset. 200 reps total.

Took my supps upon waking and went straight to the cardio. And then after cardio, I went straight into the ab work.
Had a great sweat going.
The ReCreate is good stuff. Not overly-stimulating, but very effective on thermogenesis and fat-burning aspects.
The Anabolic Pump, I'm loving. I like the fasted training so far. And the privilege of slamming all those carbs afterwards......ooooh yeah!!
The PRIME.....I think most of my readers already know how I feel about this stuff. One only needs to read the last portion of my thread "the Mad Methyl Meltdown" to see how much I like it!! Awesome for strength. Pumps are unreal. And the hardening effects are astounding. That and the one weird side-effect of constantly feeling the impulse to flex my muscles make it a favorite of mine. It is by far the best non-hormonal product that I have used to date. :thumbsup:
 
Awesome update, TG!
15 seconds of rest, eh? I always take 2 deep breaths and go at it again. Super-sets, suicides, drop-sets, alternating neg/pos are the only ways that I workout. "Normal," sets and reps bore me. ;)
 
Iron Lungz said:
Awesome update, TG!
15 seconds of rest, eh? I always take 2 deep breaths and go at it again. Super-sets, suicides, drop-sets, alternating neg/pos are the only ways that I workout. "Normal," sets and reps bore me. ;)
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I'll be honest here. I rested 15 seconds in between, because I got caught up looking at myself in the mirror and flexing!! :lol:
I'm so vain.
 
Made me think of this boys:
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thundergod said:
I'll be honest here. I rested 15 seconds in between, because I got caught up looking at myself in the mirror and flexing!! :lol:
I'm so vain.
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and veiney! nothing vain about looking and enjoying at your accomplishments. I mean technically picaso could have been vain. he enjoyed looking @ his artwork. as well as we do ours.
 
Bravoboy said:
...I mean technically picaso could have been vain. he enjoyed looking @ his artwork. as well as we do ours.
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Apparently you do not know much about Picasso! Pablo Picasso was an arrogant bastard:

My mother said to me, "If you are a soldier, you will become a general. If you are a monk, you will become the Pope." Instead, I was a painter, and became Picasso.
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Thunda... I hope you've been destroying sh*t while I was gone.

I was thinking of you as I almost wrecked my rental car into a giant truck on Interstate 79 today... F*cking snow belt.
 
TimberLakers said:
Thunda... I hope you've been destroying sh*t while I was gone.

I was thinking of you as I almost wrecked my rental car into a giant truck on Interstate 79 today... F*cking snow belt.
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Why did that make you think of TG? Because of the imminent destruction?:lol:
 
TG = CARNAGE.....let me think
 
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mulletsoldier again.
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Mulletsoldier said:
What activity followed your dosing? Fasted training w/ AP works because the body is catabolic [energy producing] not anabolic [energy consuming] during a workout, which is a common misconception. I often hear people say, "Working out for X minutes causes catabolism" when, in reality, catabolism is what you want/need to happen! During a workout your body inhibits anabolic processes [such as protein synthesis which require glucose metabolism and therefore take energy from the system], and increases catabolic processes [such as glycolysis which puts energy into the system] in order to stay in energy homeostasis.

So, what does this mean re: AP and your hypoglycemia issue? Taken in a sedentary state the body is anabolic state, and therefore cells are [let's say for brevity] in a receptive state; fasted, they are in a [again, for brevity] in a productive state: Oxidizing their own stores of glycogen and/or fatty acids in order to place glucose into the system.
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AGREE !

Training w/ AP fasted and just taking it and doing regular activities are a whole different ballgame!
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Try it once and the only thing you are going to regret is that you hadn't done it earlier :D
 
thundergod said:
My energy levels were fantastic. The more I think about fasted training, the more some if it makes practical sense. If you eat a big meal before a workout, your blood flow will be concentrated in your stomach and away from where you really want it. Your working muscles!
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:goodpost:

The pumps were very nice as well. My muscles seem to fill out very quickly utilizing this fasted protocol. I used lots of warm-ups and stretching as always. Anything worth doing is worth doing right!
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I have noticed that too since I've been doing fasted training, even in low rep ranges. In the past, big pumps would come only with big volume :eek:

Endurance and stamina were spot on. I felt like I could just keep on pumping dat shit out! I cut down my rest time between sets significantly just to really test-drive this new-to-me theory out! I was chomping at the bit anticipating doing the next set.
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This first fasted session went great. I think I was only slightly hypo at the very end of the workout. This was also the first time I ever utilized an intra-workout drink. I really liked that. That will continue to be a must-need staple from now on. I like that middle of the road refuel!! It Got Me Through!!

Now it's time for me to go and really fuel up!! Big carbs followed by a big meal!! Oh Yeah!! :food:
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:lol:
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Ah, well I was on the whole Fasted Training kick quite some time ago! B5150, Snagency and jakepelit have been utilizing my program for about 5 months.

EDIT: I believe Snag had used his own version previously, though.
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We used fasted training when i was in school 1 hour of sport and cardio before breakfast, Kept us alert in school, and lean, then when i left shool we used it to keep fit when doing gymnastics, and athletics, ive always loved it, and its good to see somone pioneering it for fat loss.:thumbsup:
 
Irish Cannon said:
Again, humorous to me. I started this last week, with a few of the people currently on the fasted-training wagon being the ones that gave me a hard time about it (coughdragonflycough)...but NOOOOO, don't listen to IC until Mullet backs him up. :lol:
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WROOOONG !!!!! :nono:

CORRECT = Don't listen to IC (or anyone else for that matter :p), before you try it yourself !!! :D

...and then AFTER trial and SUCCESS, I gave Mullet the reps :lol:

Well, I TRIED to rep him ! ^^^
 
But I've repped you too IC !

...plus (sorry for the hijack TG), I agreed with you from the START that you have to try it for yourself regardless what everyone else (including me ! ) says! I do believe that once you reach a VERY low BF %, fasted training will become counter productive. From your workout reports, it doesn't look like you are there yet.
 
Recomp: Day 19

NOTES FROM THE JOURNAL OF PAIN!!

LEGS

QUADS

LEG EXTENSIONS: 200 X 15!! , 180 X 16

MACHINE SQUATS: 390 X 12!! , 370 X 12

SEATED HORIZONTAL LEG PRESSES: 470 X 12 , 470 X 12

HAMSTRINGS

STIFF-LEGGED DEADLIFTS: 375 X 10!! , 355 X 11

STANDING ONE-LEGGED HAMSTRING CURLS: 110 X 11 , 100 X 14!!

CALVES

SEATED CALF RAISES: 270 X 15 , 270 X 15

STANDING ONE-LEGGED DB CALF RAISES (ala Arnold): 60 lb. DB X 16

This was the third day of the fasted training. It's still early, but DAMN!! Thunder-Likey!! :hammer::woohoo:
I was really on fire this morning! I watched a bunch of my Met-RX World's Strongest Man tapes last night. And then I read Dragonfly's workouts before hitting the iron!! Thanks my warrior-sister for the inspiration!! :thumbsup:

Mulletsoldier promised me that if I tried this type of fasted training that I would not lose any strength. You were totally right Mullet. Kudos to you as well!! I may even gain some strength before this is over!! :head:

It was good to take a beather from those Widowmakers anyway!! ha ha But they'll be back!! And soon enough. I was kinda surprised to hit those Machine Squats so heavy: 390 X 12, and deep too. Good stuff. You know what's in line for next week right? Yeah....400!! Ooooh yeah!! I'm excited already.

Time to feed the beast. Bring forth the feast. This warrior is hungry. And speaking of hungry, since this was fasted training, this song fits the bill.......STAY HUNGRY!!!!

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sorry for being late to the party thunder, hell of a log you got working here. All is looking real good
 
390x12...crossing over into freak territory now TG!! Learning and progressing is what this whole forum is about.
 
dragonfly said:
I do believe that once you reach a VERY low BF %, fasted training will become counter productive. From your workout reports, it doesn't look like you are there yet.
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:goodpost: Agreed! This is not something you would do continuously in this state. I myself enjoy switching up from fasted training to working out after I have 1 meal in me; this is due to fluctuations in my schedule, but I find this very effective.. and I enjoy constant change anyway!
 
thundergod said:
NOTES FROM THE JOURNAL OF PAIN!!

LEGS

QUADS

LEG EXTENSIONS: 200 X 15!! , 180 X 16

MACHINE SQUATS: 390 X 12!! , 370 X 12

SEATED HORIZONTAL LEG PRESSES: 470 X 12 , 470 X 12

HAMSTRINGS

STIFF-LEGGED DEADLIFTS: 375 X 10!! , 355 X 11

STANDING ONE-LEGGED HAMSTRING CURLS: 110 X 11 , 100 X 14!!

CALVES

SEATED CALF RAISES: 270 X 15 , 270 X 15

STANDING ONE-LEGGED DB CALF RAISES (ala Arnold): 60 lb. DB X 16

This was the third day of the fasted training. It's still early, but DAMN!! Thunder-Likey!! :hammer::woohoo:
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Gotta get me a copy of this 'Journal of Pain'.. :thumbsup:
What news stand can I find this at?
 
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