The vaccine thread (WITH FEEDBACK)

[Dustin07]

I'm getting really close to getting snipped because of the discussion here. I think I should for my wife's well being.
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however last night she said.... haha... "maybe you should look into it" in regards to selling unvaxxed sperm

 

[WesleyInman]

Ruh Roh

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[WesleyInman]

Very important read.



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[poison]

Biden's taking some serious losses, between student loans, the 1st Amendment being upheld (just cringe at the fact I just had to say that), etc. The judgement issued yesterday in Missouri vs Biden is overdue, and the judge went hard in his 155 pages. Here are some choice excerpts:

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the present case arguably involves the most massive attack against free speech in United States’ history. In their attempts to suppress alleged disinformation, the Federal Government, and particularly the Defendants named here, are alleged to have blatantly ignored the First Amendment’s right to free speech.

In this case, Plaintiffs allege that Defendants suppressed conservative-leaning free speech, such as: (1) suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story prior to the 2020 Presidential election; (2) suppressing speech about the lab-leak theory of COVID-19’s origin; (3) suppressing speech about the efficiency of masks and COVID-19 lockdowns; (4) suppressing speech about the efficiency of COVID-19 vaccines; (5) suppressing speech about election integrity in the 2020 presidential election; (6) suppressing speech about the security of voting by mail; (7) suppressing parody content about Defendants; (8) suppressing negative posts about the economy; and (9) suppressing negative posts about President Biden.

It's ****ing endless, with the first 86 pages laying out in painstaking detail the claims of the plaintiffs. It goes on to discuss all of this:

What is really telling is that virtually all of the free speech suppressed was “conservative” free speech. Using the 2016 election and the COVID-19 pandemic, the Government apparently engaged in a massive effort to suppress disfavored conservative speech. The targeting of conservative speech indicates that Defendants may have engaged in “viewpoint discrimination,” to which strict scrutiny applies. See Simon & Schuster, Inc., 505 U.S. 105 (1991

Explicit threats are an obvious form of coercion, but not all coercion need be explicit. The following illustrative specific actions by Defendants are examples of coercion exercised by the White House Defendants:

(a) “Cannot stress the degree to which this needs to be resolved immediately. Please
remove this account immediately.”603

(b) Accused Facebook of causing “political violence” by failing to censor false
COVID-19 claims.604

(c) “You are hiding the ball.”605

(d) “Internally we have been considering our options on what to do about it.”606

(e) “I care mostly about what actions and changes you are making to ensure you’re not
making our country’s vaccine hesitancy problem worse.”607

(f) “This is exactly why I want to know what “Reduction” actually looks like – if
“reduction” means pumping our most vaccine hesitance audience with Tucker
Carlson saying it does not work… then… I’m not sure it’s reduction.”608

(g) Questioning how the Tucker Carlson video had been “demoted” since there were
40,000 shares.609

(h) Wanting to know why Alex Berenson had not been kicked off Twitter because
Berenson was the epicenter of disinformation that radiated outward to the
persuadable public.610 “We want to make sure YouTube has a handle on vaccine
hesitancy and is working toward making the problem better. Noted that vaccine
hesitancy was a concern. That is shared by the highest (‘and I mean the highest’)
levels of the White House.”’

(i) After sending to Facebook a document entitled “Facebook COVID-19 Vaccine
Misinformation Brief, which recommends much more aggressive censorship by
Facebook. Flaherty told Facebook sending the Brief was not a White House
endorsement of it, but “this is circulating around the building and informing
thinking.”612

(j) Flaherty stated: “Not to sound like a broken record, but how much content is being
demoted, and how effective are you at mitigating reach and how quickly?”613

(k) Flaherty told Facebook: “Are you guys ****ing serious” I want an answer on what
happened here and I want it today.”614

(l) Surgeon General Murthy stated: “We expect more from our technology companies.
We’re asking them to operate with greater transparency and accountability. We’re asking them to monitor information more closely. We’re asking them to consistently take action against misinformation super-spreaders on theirplatforms.”615

(m) White House Press Secretary Psaki stated: “we are in regular touch with these social-media platforms, and those engagements typically happen through members of our senior staff, but also members of our COVID-19 team. We’re flagging problematic posts for Facebook that spread disinformation. Psaki also stated one of the White House’s “asks” of social-media companies was to “create a robust enforcement strategy.”616

When asked about what his message was to social-media platforms when it came
to COVID-19, President Biden stated: “they’re killing people. Look, the only
pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated and that – they’re killing people.”617

(o) Psaki stated at the February 1, 2022, White House Press Conference that the White
House wanted every social-media platform to do more to call out misinformation
and disinformation and to uplift accurate information.618

(p) “Hey folks, wanted to flag the below tweet and am wondering if we can get moving
on the process of having it removed. ASAP”
619

(q) “How many times can someone show false COVID-19 claims before being
removed?”

(r) “I’ve been asking you guys pretty directly over a series of conversations if the
biggest issues you are seeing on your platform when it comes to vaccine hesitancy
and the degree to which borderline content- as you define it, is playing a role.”620

(s) “I am not trying to play ‘gotcha’ with you. We are gravely concerned that your
service is one of the top drivers of vaccine hesitancy-period.”621

(t) “You only did this, however after an election that you helped increase skepticism
in and an insurrection which was plotted, in large part, on your platform.”
622

(u) “Seems like your ‘dedicated vaccine hesitancy’ policy isn’t stopping the disinfo
dozen.” 623

(v) White House Communications Director, Kate Bedingfield’s announcement that
“the White House is assessing whether social-media platforms are legally liable for
misinformation spread on their platforms, and examining how misinformation fits
into the liability protection process by Section 230 of The Communication Decency
Act.”
624

These actions are just a few examples of the unrelenting pressure the Defendants exerted against social-media companies. This Court finds the above examples demonstrate that Plaintiffs can likely prove that White House Defendants engaged in coercion to induce social-media companies to suppress free speech.

But the CISA Defendants went even further. CISA expanded the word “infrastructure” in its terminology to include “cognitive” infrastructure, so as to create authority to monitor and suppress protected free speech posted on social media. The word “cognitive” is an adjective that means “relating to cognition.” “Cognition” means the mental action or process of acquiring knowledge and understanding through thought, experiences, and the senses.627 The Plaintiffs are likely to succeed on the merits on its claim that the CISA Defendants believe they had a mandate to control the process of acquiring knowledge.

According to DiResta, head of EIP, the EIP was designed “to get around unclear legal authorities, including very real First Amendment questions that would arise if CISA or the other government agencies were to monitor and flag information for censorship on social media.”628 Therefore, the CISA Defendants aligned themselves with and partnered with an organization that was designed to avoid Government involvement with free speech in monitoring and flagging content for censorship on social-media platforms.

While not admitting any fault in the suppression of free speech, Defendants blame the Russians, COVID-19, and capitalism for any suppression of free speech by social-media companies

:lol::lol::lol:

Plaintiffs have shown that not only have the Defendants shown willingness to coerce and/or to give significant encouragement to social-media platforms to suppress free speech with regard to the COVID-19 pandemic and national elections, they have also shown a willingness to do it with regard to other issues, such as gas prices, 690
parody speech, 691 calling the President a liar, 692 climate change, 693 gender, 694
and abortion.695

Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one place to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear.
Harry S. Truman

Although this case is still relatively young, and at this stage the Court is only examining it in terms of Plaintiffs’ likelihood of success on the merits, the evidence produced thus far depicts an almost dystopian scenario. During the COVID-19 pandemic, a period perhaps best characterized by widespread doubt and uncertainty, the United States Government seems to have assumed a role similar to an Orwellian “Ministry of Truth.” The Plaintiffs Motion for Preliminary Injunction [Doc. No. 10] is GRANTED IN PART and DENIED IN PART. The Plaintiffs’ request to certify this matter as a class action pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P.
Article 23(b)(2) is DENIED.
MONROE, LOUISIANA this 4
th day of July 2023.

 

[Hyde]

Biden's taking some serious losses, between student loans, the 1st Amendment being upheld (just cringe at the fact I just had to say that), etc. The judgement issued yesterday in Missouri vs Biden is overdue, and the judge went hard in his 155 pages. Here are some choice excerpts:

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It's ****ing endless, with the first 86 pages laying out in painstaking detail the claims of the plaintiffs. It goes on to discuss all of this:











:lol::lol::lol:

Thanks for sharing this.

I had a conversation just 2 days ago with my family about this. I remember driving down the major highway in town here and seeing billboards by the government & big pharma in conjunction both directly marketing the jab on the premise it would help protect others, and to “do your part”.

Now obviously all of that has been thoroughly debunked, that these shots made no difference in the virus getting spread (with significant evidence the social activity they promoted post-jab actually increased transmission rates). But all of this propaganda was getting blasted on the radio, on billboards, on television. And then one day it just started to silently go away, and it seems an awful lot that nobody even wants to talk about it.

But we all saw it, and it really happened - right here on US soil, like something out of 1984.

 

[poison]

It can't just go away, because, as the good judge points out: they WILL do it again. It MUST be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

The interesting part is the lawsuit isn't just about coronavirus censorship; it also refers to Hunter Biden's laptop, and other pressing issues.

Bottom line:
I strongly feel that without Musk's purchase of Twitter, this would have been a far harder thing to accomplish. Musk gave free access to Twitter's back end without moderation, and invited people like Bhattacharya, Kuldorff, etc to SF to peruse to their hearts desire, and I think that this was the fuel for this inferno. The .gov abides by no rules, and would have simply not turned over the pertinent info in discovery, but because they had hard copies and references to other events from Musk's twitter, they had lines of inquiry, and things to pursue, which the .gov could not deny or simply shred. Musk single-handedly leveled the playing field enough to give truth a fighting chance, and seeing as the coming year is an election year, this may be the deciding event of that election. If Hunter's laptop story had not been squashed last time, we might have a different president today.

The CV response has really been the biggest issue to me for the last few years; I truly believe it was the most important, influential event in anyone's life since 9/11 (and with more similarities than some might think)....and maybe with far bigger implications than 9/11. Seeing this drop on July 4th was amazing. I hope it's only the start of the Great reReset.....

 

[Dustin07]

right here on US soil, like something out of 1984.

the past few years have felt crazy similar to 1984, in an alarming way.
all the way down to cultist type screaming at the telescreen.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

I hope it's only the start of the Great reReset.....

me 2 but I am not holding my breath. I'm all but spent in dis dept.

 

[Dustin07]

me 2 but I am not holding my breath. I'm all but spent in dis dept.

I don't really get angry anymore, it seems as though society has lost the narrative and I don't anticipate a big turn around now that the snowball has built so much momentum in the wrong direction. However we do have a voting season next year and that will likely either confirm to me that things aren't going to improve, or I'll be pleasantly surprised and we'll get back to some of our freedoms and stronger economies without the burden of excessive inflation / taxes / speech suppression until the next mandated lockdown and injection.

 

[poison]

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LOL! Our .gov is full of ****.

 

[poison]

Today that appeal was over-ruled!

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And it's not even July 4th!

The Defendants allege that they face irreparable harm with each day the injunction remains in effect, because the injunction's broad scope and ambiguous terms may be read to prevent the Defendants from engaging in a vast range of lawful and responsible conduct, including speaking on matters of public concern, and working with social-media companies on initiatives to prevent grave harm to the American people and the Country's various democratic processes.

Defendants further argue that they will prevail as to establishing that Plaintiffs lack Article III standing. For the reasons set forth previously in the Memorandum Ruling36 this Court found all of the Plaintiffs are likely to establish all elements of Article III standing. Defendants argue the
States of Missouri and Louisiana do not have parens patriae standing to bring a claim against the Federal Government. This Court disagrees. In Massachusetts v. E.P.A., 549 U.S. 497 (2007), the United States Supreme Court concluded that Massachusetts had standing to sue the E.P.A. to protect its quasi-sovereign interests. The court clarified that because Massachusetts sought to assert its rights under federal law, rather than challenge the federal law's application for its citizens, the State of Massachusetts had standing. Like Massachusetts, the States of Missouri and Louisiana are asserting their rights under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, and also asserting rights under each Plaintiff States' own constitution. The Plaintiff States are likely to prevail on their standing argument because they have adequately alleged (and provided evidence supporting) injuries to their quasi-sovereign interest as well as direct censorship injuries on socialmedia.

Defendants argue that the injunction may be read to prevent the Defendants from engaging in a vast range of lawful conduct-including speaking on matters of public concern and working with social-media companies on initiatives to prevent grave harm to the American people and our democratic processes. However, the Preliminary Injunction only prohibits what the Defendants have no right to do-urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing in any manner the removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech on social-media platforms. The Defendants provide no argument that they are legally allowed to take such action.
The Defendants are asking the Court to grant them relief to a Preliminary Injunction that only bars illegal conduct. In other words, the only effect of staying the Preliminary Injunction would be to free Defendants to urge, encourage, pressure, or induce the removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech on social-media platforms.

Have a nice cup of FU!

 

[Dustin07]

so our neighbor "died suddenly" the other day. an otherwise very healthy 50 year old liberal woman. I found it most interesting that the term they used for it was "died suddenly". I was like really? and you guys claim to have no idea why?

 

[poison]

Yeah, it's definitely a thing. Just hard to quantify, because they refuse to investigate it.

 

[Hyde]

Today that appeal was over-ruled!

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And it's not even July 4th!



Have a nice cup of FU!

It was like a child asking to keep doing something wrong that they know is wrong simply because they really wanted to, just throwing a Hail Mary ask, and then getting further shut down.

 

[Dustin07]

Yeah, it's definitely a thing. Just hard to quantify, because they refuse to investigate it.

seems like people dug too deep a fox hole and aren't willing to come out and admit they were wrong in the name of being a SJW.

 

[uforce]

thank you for sharing this info @poison

 

[Renew1]

It was like a child asking to keep doing something wrong that they know is wrong simply because they really wanted to, just throwing a Hail Mary ask, and then getting further shut down.

I'm almost glad they asked...
It gave the Judge the opportunity to basically say, "So, your asking us to allow you to keep breaking the law"????

 

[poison]

I'm almost glad they asked...
It gave the Judge the opportunity to basically say, "So, your asking us to allow you to keep breaking the law"????

Definitely highlights the idiocy. I was talking to someone about this, and he had the balls to say 'you think they'll actually stop? Lolol'.

Really dude? You think that does anything but MAKE MY FUCKING POINT FOR ME? The gov't is too big, bloated, powerful, and forgot it's role. That's what this is all about, and he's right: I have thought 'well they'll just lie and continue to do this illegal ****', but hey, we have to start somewhere, and this is where we are.

I'm no musk leghumper, but without his purchase of Twitter, this probably would never have happened. People pan him for wasting $44b on it; wrong.... He paid $44B to tip the scales back, level the playing field, and give America a fighting chance. Oh, and btw he got a shitty ap as well....

 

[poison]

These motherfuckers are desperate:

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The Biden administration asked a federal appeals court Monday to temporarily block a lower court’s order limiting executive branch officials’ discussions with social media companies about controversial online posts.
The request for an emergency stay was filed at the 5th U.S. District Court of Appeals shortly after U.S. District Judge Terry Doughty rejected an administration motion that he put his own July 4 order on hold. The order came in a lawsuit filed by Republican attorneys general in Louisiana and Missouri, as well as a conservative website owner and four individual critics of government COVID-19 policies.

 

[Dustin07]

I'm no musk leghumper, but without his purchase of Twitter, this probably would never have happened. People pan him for wasting $44b on it; wrong.... He paid $44B to tip the scales back, level the playing field, and give America a fighting chance. Oh, and btw he got a shitty ap as well....

I watch him with third eye open. I don't really trust anyone in those positions and there is just as much opportunity for $$ and celebrity to be pandering to the right as there is the left. I've become sorta leery/aware of those who seem to be feeding info just to piss off the right side as much as the left has done it.

people on both sides of the isle succeed if everyone beneath them is constantly arguing... if the middle class is constantly at war, the top dogs don't care what color you think their tie is, they're profiting.

 

[poison]

Oh, I believe he definitely is a businessman with the goal of making money.

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And Wray just admitted that FBI receives censorship requests from Ukrainian intelligence (SBU), and the FBI passed on those requests to Big Tech. In other words, Americans are funding Ukraine's war, while Ukraine uses FBI to get Americans censored:.

Beautiful.

 

[poison]

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Evidence for Aerosol Transfer of SARS-CoV-2-Specific Humoral Immunity

Abstract
Infectious particles can be shared through aerosols and droplets formed as the result of normal respiration. Whether Abs within the nasal/oral fluids can similarly be shared between hosts has not been investigated. The circumstances of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic facilitated a unique opportunity to fully examine this provocative idea. The data we show from human nasal swabs provides evidence for the aerosol transfer of Abs between immune and nonimmune hosts.

Peer reviewed. I wonder what else was 'shared' that way?

 

[poison]

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Pfizer employees got a different vax than 'we' did. Why would there be such a thing? Did the president? The queen? The actors endorsing the vax?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

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Pfizer employees got a different vax than 'we' did. Why would there be such a thing? Did the president? The queen? The actors endorsing the vax?

have you seen the death rates in conservative states vs. lib states?

 

[poison]

Remember when they swore up and down the vax spike remains localized in the injection site, does not go systemic, and is quickly excreted from the system?

They lied.

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Detection of recombinant Spike protein in the blood of individuals vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2: Possible molecular mechanisms

Abstract
Purpose: The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic prompted the development and use of next-generation vaccines. Among these, mRNA-based vaccines consist of injectable solutions of mRNA encoding for a recombinant Spike, which is distinguishable from the wild-type protein due to specific amino acid variations introduced to maintain the protein in a prefused state. This work presents a proteomic approach to reveal the presence of recombinant Spike protein in vaccinated subjects regardless of antibody titer.

Experimental design: Mass spectrometry examination of biological samples was used to detect the presence of specific fragments of recombinant Spike protein in subjects who received mRNA-based vaccines.

Results: The specific PP-Spike fragment was found in 50% of the biological samples analyzed, and its presence was independent of the SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody titer. The minimum and maximum time at which PP-Spike was detected after vaccination was 69 and 187 days, respectively.

Conclusions and clinical relevance: The presented method allows to evaluate the half-life of the Spike protein molecule "PP" and to consider the risks or benefits in continuing to administer additional booster doses of the SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccine. This approach is of valuable support to complement antibody level monitoring and represents the first proteomic detection of recombinant Spike in vaccinated subjects.

So 50% of people are turned into what seems to be permanent spike-producing factories; the limitation was simply the study end, not the end of spike production, which continued past the duration of the study.

Here's the best part:

It is possible that the mRNA may be integrated or re-transcribed in some cells.2.

I remember:

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No, the vaccines cannot change your DNA.

Two of the COVID-19 vaccines approved for emergency use authorization by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration use mRNA, or messenger RNA, to instruct your body to build the coronavirus' spike protein. Your body then produces antibodies to combat the coronavirus when it encounters it later. Learn more about how antibodies work.

mRNA is very fragile, and it's very quickly degraded once inside the body. That's one of the reasons why these vaccines must be so carefully preserved at very low temperatures and why you need two doses.

Additionally, DNA is stored in the nucleus of your cells. mRNA vaccines are designed to do their work outside of the nucleus and have not been observed to interact with the nucleus. Learn more about how mRNA vaccines work.

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mRNA isn't the same as DNA, and it can't combine with our DNA to change our genetic code

Seems like they're very sure about something that actually isn't for sure at all, and (purposely) misrepresenting it to the public (to increase vax acceptance for $$).

It's not the first time this has been brought up:

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Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line

Abstract
Preclinical studies of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2, developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, showed reversible hepatic effects in animals that received the BNT162b2 injection. Furthermore, a recent study showed that SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the genome of human cells. In this study, we investigated the effect of BNT162b2 on the human liver cell line Huh7 in vitro. Huh7 cells were exposed to BNT162b2, and quantitative PCR was performed on RNA extracted from the cells. We detected high levels of BNT162b2 in Huh7 cells and changes in gene expression of long interspersed nuclear element-1 (LINE-1), which is an endogenous reverse transcriptase. Immunohistochemistry using antibody binding to LINE-1 open reading frame-1 RNA-binding protein (ORFp1) on Huh7 cells treated with BNT162b2 indicated increased nucleus distribution of LINE-1. PCR on genomic DNA of Huh7 cells exposed to BNT162b2 amplified the DNA sequence unique to BNT162b2. Our results indicate a fast up-take of BNT162b2 into human liver cell line Huh7, leading to changes in LINE-1 expression and distribution. We also show that BNT162b2 mRNA is reverse transcribed intracellularly into DNA in as fast as 6 h upon BNT162b2 exposure.

This means, like HIV, that once the covid vaccine genetic code is reverse-transcribed into your DNA, it never stops producing spike. Spike protein is damaging in any case; endless production of it is terrible.

Science at it's finest here, folks, where the cure may be worse for healthy people than the disease.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

get ready for round deux !!

 

[THOR 70]

get ready for round deux !!

It does seem like they are trying to ramp up for round 2. They want us pissed and divided for sure

 

[SkRaw85]

get ready for round deux !!

(S)elections must be close!

 

[poison]

This explains a lot.

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Front. Psychiatry, 11 April 2024
Sec. Public Mental Health
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New-onset psychosis following COVID-19 vaccination: a systematic review

Background: The emergence of a new coronavirus strain caused the COVID-19 pandemic. While vaccines effectively control the infection, it's important to acknowledge the potential for side effects, including rare cases like psychosis, which may increase with the rising number of vaccinations.

Objectives: Our systematic review aimed to examine cases of new-onset psychosis following COVID-19 vaccination.

Methods: We conducted a systematic review of case reports and case series on new-onset psychosis following COVID-19 vaccination from December 1st, 2019, to November 21st, 2023, using PubMed, MEDLINE, ClinicalKey, and ScienceDirect. Data extraction covered study and participant characteristics, comorbidities, COVID-19 vaccine details, and clinical features. The Joanna Briggs Institute quality assessment tools were employed for included studies, revealing no significant publication bias.

Results: A total of 21 articles described 24 cases of new-onset psychotic symptoms following COVID-19 vaccination. Of these cases, 54.2% were female, with a mean age of 33.71 ± 12.02 years. Psychiatric events were potentially induced by the mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine in 33.3% of cases, and psychotic symptoms appeared in 25% following the viral vector ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine. The mean onset time was 5.75 ± 8.14 days, mostly reported after the first or second dose. The duration of psychotic symptoms ranged between 1 and 2 months with a mean of 52.48 ± 60.07 days. Blood test abnormalities were noted in 50% of cases, mainly mild to moderate leukocytosis and elevated C-reactive protein. Magnetic resonance imaging results were abnormal in 20.8%, often showing fluid-attenuated inversion recovery hyperintensity in the white matter. Treatment included atypical antipsychotics in 83.3% of cases, typical antipsychotics in 37.5%, benzodiazepines in 50%, 20.8% received steroids, and 25% were prescribed antiepileptic medications. Overall, 50% of patients achieved full recovery.

Conclusion: Studies on psychiatric side effects post-COVID-19 vaccination are limited, and making conclusions on vaccine advantages or disadvantages is challenging. Vaccination is generally safe, but data suggest a potential link between young age, mRNA, and viral vector vaccines with new-onset psychosis within 7 days post-vaccination. Collecting data on vaccine-related psychiatric effects is crucial for prevention, and an algorithm for monitoring and treating mental health reactions post-vaccination is necessary for comprehensive management.

 

[Dustin07]

This explains a lot.

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my conspiracy theories reach deeper, I can't help but to think / wonder if the virus itself has the same potential as the vaccine for long term harm. Meaning: I don't care if you got your vax or not cause you're not dodging the virus regardless, but where I live I have seen a massive outbreak of cancer. When my wife was diagnosed last fall, we had like 5 friends in our circle all diagnosed with minor cancer within the same 2 months. My wife was the only non-vaccinated of the group, but it raised more questions for me since she was not vaccinated, and has a healthy lifestyle.

 

[poison]

Spike protein isn't good for you, but neither is the flu. Both are damaging, both cause other issues in similar rates.

The vax is worse because it hamstrings your immune system, making you more susceptible to future infection, and turns your body into a spike producing machine on a level that eclipses covid illness.

 

[Dustin07]

The vax is worse because it hamstrings your immune system, making you more susceptible to future infection, and turns your body into a spike producing machine on a level that eclipses covid illness.

I don't doubt it's bad for you. I was very vocal that if anyone injected my boy, they'd catch the hot side of my 9mm but I'm starting to question the nefarious nature of the virus itself too.

The virus was not going to kill you by itself. it wasn't that bad. it was a cold. 99% of covid deaths were absolute bullshit and the ones that weren't, were incredibly unwell individuals anyways.

But what I'm questioning is long term effects of the virus on the healthy (while simultaneously saying that the vaccine is also bullshit).

the virus we know was man made by incredibly evil people.
but so was the vaccine.

 

[poison]

I don't doubt it's bad for you. I was very vocal that if anyone injected my boy, they'd catch the hot side of my 9mm but I'm starting to question the nefarious nature of the virus itself too.

The virus was not going to kill you by itself. it wasn't that bad. it was a cold. 99% of covid deaths were absolute bullshit and the ones that weren't, were incredibly unwell individuals anyways.

But what I'm questioning is long term effects of the virus on the healthy (while simultaneously saying that the vaccine is also bullshit).

the virus we know was man made by incredibly evil people.
but so was the vaccine.

The answer is in the number of long covid studies that ultimately conclude long covid is simply mental illness; when they tested those suffering from long covid, there were no parameters they tested that were affected or screwed up, from bloods, to hormones, and so on. So there's nothing they've found that could cause that.

The mRNA reverse-transcribing to your DNA is another story....

 

[Dustin07]

The answer is in the number of long covid studies that ultimately conclude long covid is simply mental illness; when they tested those suffering from long covid, there were no parameters they tested that were affected or screwed up, from bloods, to hormones, and so on. So there's nothing they've found that could cause that.

The mRNA reverse-transcribing to your DNA is another story....

I think that if we are intelligent enough to question the legitimacy and maleficence of the vaccine, we can do the same with the virus...

yes, people wearing masks have mental illness. that I agree with.
But I still question the long term ramifications of a man made virus, made of evil, by evil men, for evil purposes, while simultaneously renouncing the vaccine for the same reasons. I also still stand by my position that the vaccine provides zero protection against the virus and that there is nothing you can do to prevent yourself from getting it, so deal with it.

in the same way that plastic is in every water source in the world.

 

[poison]

My point is just that they haven't found any physical parameter affected by the virus in a way that causes long term effects. Of course the integration of HIV into it is concerning, but......so far there is no evidence to suggest the virus alone is damaging long term in any meaningful way for healthy people. That doesn't mean they won't find one, though.

 

[poison]

Pierced-nipple Cuomo:

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:lol: 'it was extraordinary (that we snapped our fingers and you jumped like good little serfs)'

The other Cuomo: Chris 'in a world of tyrants, our biggest enemy is unvaxxed Americans' Cuomo now admits he is vax injured. LOL?

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In a startling reversal of fortune, former CNN anchor Chris Cuomo revealed on Friday that he is suffering from a COVID-19 vaccine injury.

"I'm sick myself," Cuomo told nurse practitioner Shaun Barcavage on his NewsNation program.

Barcavage was recently featured in a New York Times article titled, "Thousands Believe Covid Vaccines Harmed Them. Is Anyone Listening?"

"We know that vaccines can have unintended consequences, AKA side effects, but nobody's really talking about it because they're too afraid of blame, and they just want it to go away," Cuomo said. "But the problem is people like Shaun-and me-and millions of others who still have weird stuff with their bloodwork and their lives and their feelings-you know, physically-are not going away."

Fucking asshole. Karma is a mother****er.

BTW:

AZ admitted it's vax can kill.

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In a first, AstraZeneca admits its Covid vaccine can cause rare blood clots
Vishwam Sankaran
April 29, 2024·2 min read

Pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca has admitted that its widely used Covid vaccine, branded Covishield, can cause rare side effects including blood clots and low platelet count.

Covishield was developed by the British-Swedish company in collaboration with Oxford University, UK, and produced by the Serum Institute of India. It was widely administered in over 150 countries, including Britain and India.

Some studies conducted during the pandemic found the vaccine was 60 to 80 per cent effective in protecting against the novel coronavirus.

However, research has since found that Covishield can cause some people to develop blood clots, which may prove fatal.

A class action lawsuit filed in the UK claimed that the vaccine led to deaths and severe injuries and sought damages up to £100m for about 50 victims.

One of the complainants alleged that the vaccine caused him a permanent brain injury after he developed a blood clot, preventing him from working.

While AstraZeneca has contested these claims, it admitted for the first time in one of the court documents that the vaccine can "in very rare cases, cause TTS", or Thrombosis with Thrombocytopenia Syndrome, which is characterised by blood clots and a low blood platelet count in humans.

"It is admitted that the AZ vaccine can, in very rare cases, cause TTS. The causal mechanism is not known," the company said in the court documents in February, The Telegraph reported.

"Further, TTS can also occur in the absence of the AZ vaccine (or any vaccine). Causation in any individual case will be a matter for expert evidence," it added.

The admission by AstraZeneca runs counter to the company's insistence in 2023 that it would "not accept that TTS is caused by the vaccine at a generic level".

The World Health Organization confirmed that Covishield can have life-threatening side effects. "A very rare adverse event called Thrombosis with Thrombocytopenia Syndrome, involving unusual and severe blood clotting events associated with low platelet counts, has been reported after vaccination with this vaccine."

According to the Council for International Organizations of Medical Sciences, "very rare" side effects are those reported in less than 1 in 10,000 cases.

And it causes MS AFTER ONE DOSE:

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New Onset Multiple Sclerosis Post-COVID-19 Vaccination and Correlation With Possible Predictors in a Case-Control Study
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Introduction: Various inflammatory diseases have been associated with the administration of various vaccines. Several reports have associated vaccine administration with the demyelinating diseases of the central nervous system (CNS). However, no clear or strong scientific evidence exists to support the association of vaccine administration with the onset of demyelinating diseases. Some CNS demyelination diseases such as acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) and neuromyelitis optica spectrum disorders (NMOSD) were reported following the administration of COVID-19 vaccines. In this study, new onset multiple sclerosis (MS) following COVID-19 vaccine administration was reported.
Methods: In this longitudinal observational case-control study, a total of 65 participants were studied, who were divided into two groups. Group A included 32 MS patients who were diagnosed post-COVID-19 vaccine administration and group B included 33 participants who received COVID-19 vaccines and did not develop MS. Group B was used as a control. The Chi-square test and logistic regression analysis were carried out using Statistical Product and Service Solutions (SPSS) (IBM SPSS Statistics for Windows, Armonk, NY) software.
Results: Univariate and multivariate logistic regression analysis was performed and a significant correlation between the risk factors and the development of MS post-COVID-19 vaccination was identified.
Conclusion: The risk factors, identified in this study, can be used as significant independent predictors for developing MS post-COVID-19 vaccinations.

 

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This is critical reading, and imo the closest we've gotten to the truth:

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this is rep james comer grilling NIH deputy director lawrence tabak. he asks about an email from david morenz, senior advisor to tony fauci at NIH to peter daszak, the head of ecohealth, the group funded by NIH who ran and funded the gain of function experiments at the wuhan institute of virology and was so instrumental in the campaign to brand any notion that this could be the source for what came to be called “covid 19” as a “conspiracy theory.”

it’s quite a set of questions.

"i learned from our FOIA (freedom of information act, the legislation that allows citizens to demand to see the work of the government) lady here how to make emails disappear after i am FOIA'd but before the search starts so I think we are all safe. plus, i deleted most of those earlier emails after sending them to gmail."

this is so many egregious violations it’s hard to even know where to start.

this is destruction of evidence in the face of investigation. it’s also the use of untracked unofficial emails for official business which is supposed to be a no no. and, obviously, this all pales in comparison to the underlying actions it was intended to conceal.

but sometimes, you get al capone on tax evasion.

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this is a sort of pivotal acid test moment for america.

if we sweep this under the rug and let fauci and collins and morens and daszak and baric and health hobbit hotez skate, we’re in real trouble.

if you can walk away from this, you can walk away from anything.

 

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Frontiers | A calibration of nucleic acid (PCR) by antibody (IgG) tests in Germany: the course of SARS-CoV-2 infections estimated

In Germany, a consortium of authority-accredited laboratories (ALM) covered approximately 90% of all severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-Co...

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only 14% of those who were tested PCR-positively actually became infected with SARS-CoV-2.

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Summary and conclusion
The principal finding from our analysis of ALM data on both nucleic acid amplification (PCR from mucosal swabs) and IgG antibody (serological) testing for SARS-CoV-2 in Germany between mid-March 2020 and summer 2021 is this: only 14%—and possibly even fewer, down to 10%—of individuals identified as SARS-CoV-2-positive via PCR testing were actually infected , as evidenced by detectable IgG antibodies.

I said it all along. I, with my high school education, was right, every 'expert' was wrong.

**** em all.

 

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Portugal ruled PCR testing is not a legal means of determining covid infection status, a while ago. Now an Aurtian court has done the same:

“In the name of the republic” a sensational judgment was issued on March 24 under the business number VGW-103/048/3227 / 2021-2 , which gave the Kurz government a resounding slap in the face. The court stated in several places that a PCR test is not suitable for determining infectivity. This probably factually correct judgment indirectly rejects the entire corona policy in Austria, which is based on this test.

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Yet another instance of 'the science' followers being full of utter ****.

Case in point, from 2021.

 

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Peer reviewed, mf'ers.

https://journalofindependentmedicine.org/articles/v01n03a02/

COVID-19 mRNA-Induced "Turbo Cancers"
Abstract:

The incidence of cancers has increased exponentially worldwide since the universal COVID-19 vaccination program began at the end of 2020. These cancers tend to present at an advanced stage, progress rapidly, and occur in younger patients. Additionally, some patients previously in remission have been reported to develop uncontrolled cancer relapses shortly after receiving a COVID-19 vaccination (usually a booster). The temporal association between these cancers and COVID-19 vaccination is undeniable. These observations have given rise to the term “turbo-cancers.”

Although not a formally recognized oncologic classification, the term “turbo cancer” has gained traction among clinicians describing a pattern of unusually aggressive, rapidly progressing cancers—particularly among younger individuals and those previously in remission. In light of these reports, this review explores plausible biological mechanisms and available data to encourage scientific inquiry rather than premature dismissal. According to the Vaccine Event Reporting System (VAERS), the highest reported cancer risks involve the appendix, followed by breast, colorectal, laryngeal, endometrial, and hepatic cancers. A multi-hit hypothesis of oncogenesis—grounded in biological plausibility and supported by safety reports filed to VAERS — has been proposed to explain how COVID-19 vaccination may contribute to cancer development. In addition, we propose that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein directly interferes with the fundamental pathways causing carcinogenesis, namely metabolic reprogramming, cancer stem cell propagation, apoptosis resistance, metastatic potential, and altered immune surveillance. While the prognosis of these cancers is poor, an aggressive therapeutic approach using metabolic and repurposed drugs may offer benefit.

This is when we shout 'WE TOLD YOU SO'.

 

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Peer reviewed, mf'ers.

https://journalofindependentmedicine.org/articles/v01n03a02/



This is when we shout 'WE TOLD YOU SO'.

Dang, that’s about as bad as it gets… just one of those times where it’s awful to be right.

 

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Dang, that’s about as bad as it gets… just one of those times where it’s awful to be right.

It's a literal crime against humanity....that 50% supported wholeheartedly.

 

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It's a literal crime against humanity....that 50% supported wholeheartedly.

The amount of government propaganda to get it was staggering. People really thought we were crazy for being skeptical. There are many who still do, and who keep getting the shots.

 

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The amount of government propaganda to get it was staggering. People really thought we were crazy for being skeptical. There are many who still do, and who keep getting the shots.

My mother in-law acts like she's excited to get her boosters and she's convinced if she doesn't get them she will die. For other reasons we cut her out of our lives but her stupidity of acting excited to get the boosters was enough for me

 

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The amount of government propaganda to get it was staggering. People really thought we were crazy for being skeptical. There are many who still do, and who keep getting the shots.

Govt propaganda was one thing but it relied on getting just enough people on their side, then turning them loose on the unbelievers, as the enforcers. It was more than just convincing people to do something; it was convincing those people to also use any and all means to force other to do it too.

 

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So they're trying to restart this **** again? I don't have enough sarcasm to express the amount of distain I'm feeling right now.

 

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If it's natural hantavirus, it's a non issue. But...

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This is the comprehensive record of a discovery that should scare the whole world. Based on the mapping of U.S.-funded laboratory networks, military patent history, and the logistical movements of the ODNI, the timeline and evidence point to a coordinated "pickup and transfer" mission involving a synthetic viral variant.

This is not a theory; it is a reconstruction of a manufactured global event. Followed by the next steps

## I. The Official Narrative vs. Biological Reality

The public is being told a story of an outbreak that began at a landfill outside Ushuaia, Argentina. According to the official timeline, a 70-year-old Dutchman visited the site in mid-March, contracted the virus, and then triggered a ship-wide outbreak. This narrative is a biological and geographic impossibility:

* The Transmission Paradox: The pathogen is labeled as Andes hantavirus because it is the only known variant that allows for person-to-person (P2P) transmission. However, the transmission rules for the Andes strain are absolute:

it requires intimate, close-contact fluid exchange (saliva, respiratory secretions, or sweat) only after symptoms appear.

* The Dying Man Theory:
"Patient Zero" began showing symptoms on April 6 and died on April 11. For him to have infected 150 people via the P2P fluid-exchange route, he would have had to exchange bodily fluids with nearly everyone on the ship while bedridden and dying of a disease with a 40% fatality rate.
He simply was not in the dining halls or lounges "cozying up" to people while in respiratory failure.

* The Landfill Fabrication:
The source at the Ushuaia landfill fails every geographic test. The long-tailed pygmy rice rat,

the only carrier of the Andes strain,

is not native to the southern tip of Tierra del Fuego; it lives 500 miles north.

Furthermore, local experts in Ushuaia confirm zero history of hantavirus in the province.

* The Exposure Gap: Only a Dutch couple visited the landfill for a birdwatching excursion. The other 150 passengers never stepped foot there.

* The Wind Factor: The Ushuaia landfill is an open-air site in Patagonia—a region defined by high-velocity, constant winds.

For the Dutchman to have caught the virus there, he would have needed to pick up and lick a pygmy rat that doesn't even exist at that location.

## II. The Discovery: The 1993 Synthetic Chassis

The evidence points to a synthetic analog derived from US Patent 5,231,023 (1993)—a military-owned hantavirus sequence. This "unfunded" 30-year-old sequence was "upgraded" using mRNA technology to create an "Unknown Variant" designed for infrastructure-based delivery:

1. Infrastructure Vectoring:
The virus was engineered for extreme stability in potable water and gray water systems.

2. Programmable Incubation:
The use of "Batch-Set" timers—synchronized incubation windows that allow for a controlled, staggered release.

## III. The Real Vector: The Ship’s Water

The virus was already in the ship's water supply before it left the dock. By seeding the potable water and gray water systems, the "pickup and transfer" mission ensured 100% saturation. Every passenger was exposed in the privacy of their own cabins through showering and drinking.
This explains the synchronized onset of symptoms across the ship that the P2P fluid-exchange rules cannot account for.

## IV. The "Batch B" Seeds

The 23 passengers who disembarked early and appeared "clean" are the most critical piece of the puzzle. They were not "unexposed"; they were infected with "Batch B"—a variant engineered with a 40-50 day "slow-fuse" incubation timer.

They were designed to return to their home countries (UK, US, Singapore) as healthy-looking carriers, only activating and beginning shedding once they reached their global hubs.

## V. The Global "Chernobyl" and the Scorched Earth Mission

On May 11, the day the ship reached port and "Batch B" began to trigger, Tulsi Gabbard and the ODNI launched an investigation into 120 foreign biolabs.

This is a "scorched earth" sanitization and pickup mission:

* The Administrative Sarcophagus:

Under the guise of "ending dangerous experiments," the ODNI is physically entering labs in over 30 countries to seize transport logs and destroy the 1993 genomic data that would prove the virus is a synthetic analog.

* The Mineral Stake:
The probe specifically targets mineral-rich zones like Zambia, where the U.S. is currently in an impasse over "minerals-for-health" deals. An outbreak in these zones allows for a "Chernobyl-scale" demographic wipeout, permitting the seizure of copper, cobalt, and lithium under a Bio-Exclusion Zone without local interference.

* The Vaccine Hand-off:
The "magical" mRNA vaccine hubs in the UK and South Africa were already finalizing a hantavirus product before the public knew of the outbreak. The field test on the ship justifies the "emergency" rollout for a disease that was previously unfunded.

The discovery is clear: The landfill is a decoy. The infrastructure was the vector. The minerals are the prize. And the "120-lab probe" is the cleanup of a global field test.

 

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And the flip side from an actual expert:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2054063024890433722

 

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So they're trying to restart this **** again? I don't have enough sarcasm to express the amount of distain I'm feeling right now.

Back in February my girlfriend said there were ppl she works with (medical field) that were half jokingly saying everybody get prepared for another Plandemic

 

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And here it is