The New Product Release Thread

Big_Spaz said:
Hey guys ... wanted to let you all know Gaspari just dropped a new flavor of Proven Egg today ... Salted Caramel. Available on Gaspari's direct site.

I'm hoping to get a few tubs to send out to some people to try.







-Spaz
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Currently using primeval labs protein and it has been top protein for me. If you wanna throw a sample my way I’d be happy to compare and leave a review for you
 
Resolve10 said:
The Spectra is interesting I admit. Appreciate the link.

Just kind of selfish and hate to see White Flash disappear for a watered down but higher caffeine product IMO.
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Lowering Agmatine and L-Citrulline by 1/3 & dropping betaine (still in other CL intra products), plus getting rid of Vaso6, in exchange for a new supplement shown to reduce oxidative stress, add hydrating taurine and Hup A & Tyrosine for better focus, and making the caffeine blend smoother, for 60% of the cost/serving, is watering down to you?

It’s okay to be sad - White Flash was great. But this is a better bang for buck product that should appeal to a lot wider audience.
 
ValiantThor08 said:
I know I can Google anything, I just like to hear from other people they may have something specific to say that an article may not have, or they may say something that is in the middle of an article, that I don't want to sift through.
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The TLDR of Dynamine is that it’s very similar to Teacrine, except faster-acting and not as long of a duration. It’s still caffeine-like and non-stim junkies would get a good boost out of it without much side effect. It’s not an exotic or PEA-based stim.
 
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N2ofusion said:
The TLDR of Dynamine is that it’s very similar to Teacrine, except faster-acting and not as long of a duration. It’s still caffeine-like and non-stim junkies would get a good boost out of it without much side effect. It’s not an exotic or PEA-based stim.
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Never used Teacrine. Is Teacrine good to stack with caffiene. I accidenly picked some up thinking it was theanine, silly me, so now I have a bottle of teacrine.
 
The Solution said:
Ghost teasing Pancake Batter Vegan Protein

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I’ve never tried a newer vegan protein before. Are any of them any good. Prob never buy one but curious bc a few years ago I got samples of a pea protein can’t remember what company but it was one of the grossest things I ever tried
 
Resolve10 said:
It’s fine I understand reaching a wider audience and Synapsin knows what he’s doing and I’m sure plenty will like it.

The total Agmatine and Citrulline per container is the same though it’s just not possible to dose them higher without a pretty high caffeine amount, that’s what I meant by watered down (500mg Agmatine is low imo, but 3g Citrulline should still be pretty good). I did prefer Vaso-6 in the formula along with the Betaine and Lions Mane, probably don’t mind the Theanine drop not a huge fan of that.

I’ll still be using my other Controlled Labs favorites just hard to see a product I’ve purchased a ton of go away.



Yes I think it’s ideal with caffeine. Teacrine is kind of slow to kick in, can take up to an hour to really feel it. It lasts awhile. It’s like a small sustained pick me up. I enjoy a pretty big dose early in the day to get me through morning work or for longer training sessions to keep energy levels up for a sustained period.
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Good thing I realized it wasnt theanine, otherwise i would have taken a couple before bed.
 
bloodnthunder said:
I’ve never tried a newer vegan protein before. Are any of them any good. Prob never buy one but curious bc a few years ago I got samples of a pea protein can’t remember what company but it was one of the grossest things I ever tried
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I have never tasted a Vegan Protein I enjoyed...
 
Really don’t get the hype with ghost i tried a sample of the peanut butter cereal milk and it was ok

Warheadz legend on the other hand was really good taste wise
 
The Solution said:
If that is the case .. Cellucor and C4 would not market or sell any better, but guess what it is their flagship product.
People want an affordable pre-workout and something that tastes good. About 95% of the people in the industry don't care about ingredient profiles. Sad, but that is the truth. You have to remember us forum members or people who research ingredient profiles, clinical doses, and want something that is fully transparent are the minority.
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Preach! I have people in the gym ask me all the time what preworkout I take. I ask them the same and usually my mind is blown by their product choice and lack of knowledge
 
TrainerTone said:
Preach! I have people in the gym ask me all the time what preworkout I take. I ask them the same and usually my mind is blown by their product choice and lack of knowledge
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Another thing is coming across a "casual" supplement buyer in a gym who mentions some product we, on the forums, have NEVER heard of, and we post all the ridiculous **** to comment on here. I'm always blown away when I see that. And then you ask more questions and they're like "yeah, my so and so takes this, we get their protein too, and this and that" and you didn't even know this company existed.
 
Big_Spaz said:
Hey guys ... wanted to let you all know Gaspari just dropped a new flavor of Proven Egg today ... Salted Caramel. Available on Gaspari's direct site.

I'm hoping to get a few tubs to send out to some people to try.







-Spaz
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Maaaaannnn does it look good!
 
Hyde said:
Weird, works for me when I click on it in the mobile app. Let’s try this:

NEW PREWORKOUT - White Warped Loggers Wanted By CL
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Serious question for ya, with cit and agma dosed at 3g’s and 500 mg’s I’d assume this is a two scoop pre. However caffeine dose would be pretty significant at 2 scoops. Is this pre meant to be stacked or a two scoop pre
 
rowz4broz said:
Serious question for ya, with cit and agma dosed at 3g’s and 500 mg’s I’d assume this is a two scoop pre. However caffeine dose would be pretty significant at 2 scoops. Is this pre meant to be stacked or a two scoop pre
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Definitely not two-scooped. Counting the Infinergy that would be 700mg total! I would think even 1.5 scoops would be out of the question for all but the most stim tolerant - we do NOT recommend this.

Stacking - definitely could , with non-stim pres or other ergogenic aids like Green Mag/Might, Purple Wraath, GlycerGrow2. But even 3g of quality L-Citruline & 500mg Agmatine will make a decided difference in pumps - CL took a minimum effective dose approach to lower cost/serving. Obviously 6g/1,000 costs twice as much, but doesn’t deliver twice the increase in pumps, so to speak.

It will also be interesting to see how Spectra affects the experience - that will be new for me as well!
 
Unless Spectra indeed turns out to be an amazing pump and energy potentiator that quickly gains some noise, I have to agree with the majority here and say that White Warped looks like a significant downgrade and a difficult sell to any niche in comparison to White Flash. If higher sales was the goal here, I would be more than surprised if that happened. No offense to Controlled Labs, and if this turns out to be a hit then I will stand corrected!:)

Have to give some points though for introducing us (or at least me) to a new ingredient nonetheless!
 
Are these spectra blends the same as what’s in prekaged?


Because I don’t think it really did a fat lot of anything other then make the scoop serving bigger
 
Ricky10 said:
Unless Spectra indeed turns out to be an amazing pump and energy potentiator that quickly gains some noise, I have to agree with the majority here and say that White Warped looks like a significant downgrade and a difficult sell to any niche in comparison to White Flash. If higher sales was the goal here, I would be more than surprised if that happened. No offense to Controlled Labs, and if this turns out to be a hit then I will stand corrected!:)

Have to give some points though for introducing us (or at least me) to a new ingredient nonetheless!
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I’m sure you’re aware, but great formulas don’t equal sales always. Especially because us on the forums represent a small percentage of a company’s sales.

Your everyday consumer may not care much for the White Flash. I’m genuinely curious where a bulk of CL’s sales come from (which platform), as White Flash was a solid formula. An issue with the preworkout arena in general is that it’s severely crowded. Hard to standout. There are plenty of awesomely formulated 20 scoop pre’s out there nowadays. The “premium preworkout” arena has a lot more competitors in it today then it did a few years ago.
 
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This actually looks pretty good and something I'll definitely try.
 
Yeah, I agree with all that and I know CL is pulling White Flash due to lack of sales. My main point was I don’t picture any demographic getting all that hot and bothered about seeing Spectra on the label of White Warped and sales may likely be even lower than they were with White Flash.
 
DEVANS89 said:
Are these spectra blends the same as what’s in prekaged?


Because I don’t think it really did a fat lot of anything other then make the scoop serving bigger
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Turns out I have used Spectra then....good catch! I have also used Pre-Kaged and was underwhelmed.

I also find it odd how Spectra TM is a different, yet quite similar blend of ingredients when looking at the labels of these two products :33:

While I wish CL the best, I am really not all that concerned either way..
My eyes are on OL Levels anyway :)
 
GrizzleB said:
Curious as well on the formula. I gotta say this is the first label they've done that I like.
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I hate the new label lol. BUT I really wasn’t crazy about the art of the recent stuff anyway, and more importantly Levels looks like a solid new formulation with real potential. Which is what’s going to sell it or not, ultimately.

On the plus, it kind of breaks them out from a dedicated design direction going forward.

jarrellt67 said:
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This actually looks pretty good and something I'll definitely try.
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Dang they lost me at only 120mg caffeine. Flavor sounds great. Hopefully if it does alright they’ll bring a 200mg out to match the regular. I’m not considering anything under 200 for real.
 
I worked as a manager at one of the big name supplement shops for 7 years and I can say this is all true. People would ask my opinion , I would be 100% honest and show the best pre based on what their experiences/wants were, and they would just end up ignoring and going with something that had lots of endorsements/popularity.
 
Hyde said:
Dang they lost me at only 120mg caffeine. Flavor sounds great. Hopefully if it does alright they’ll bring a 200mg out to match the regular. I’m not considering anything under 200 for real.
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For people who like low-moderate stim, this will be great. Solid afternoon pick me up. Enough caffeine + tyrosine to boost mood a bit.

Plus they have other options for higher stim users (IIRC).
 
Ricky10 said:
Turns out I have used Spectra then....good catch! I have also used Pre-Kaged and was underwhelmed.

I also find it odd how Spectra TM is a different, yet quite similar blend of ingredients when looking at the labels of these two products :33:

While I wish CL the best, I am really not all that concerned either way..
My eyes are on OL Levels anyway :)
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So does Spectra Orac = S7?

Spectra Orac is the trademark ingredient used in preKaged and other products. S7 is a different trademarked ingredient, but yeah the profiles look similar.

I wonder what the difference is?
 
Ricky10 said:
Turns out I have used Spectra then....good catch! I have also used Pre-Kaged and was underwhelmed.

I also find it odd how Spectra TM is a different, yet quite similar blend of ingredients when looking at the labels of these two products :33:
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Unless we are all missing something here, why has this blend suddenly popped up in two recent formulas when it was already a thing back when kaged first dropped and no one made a fuss about it back then
 
l-citrulline needs less to be effective than cit-mal...glad to see companies switching to l-cit and dropping cit mal....
 
m1k3_d0z4 said:
So does Spectra Orac = S7?

Spectra Orac is the trademark ingredient used in preKaged and other products. S7 is a different trademarked ingredient, but yeah the profiles look similar.

I wonder what the difference is?
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So s7 (if you can't tell from its name) is made up from 7 ingredients and designed specifically for low dose requirements to increase NO production. In clinical studies shown to boost NO by up to 230%

Meanwhile Spectra is a blend of about 30 different ingredients, needed at a higher dose which is primarily used as a potent antioxidant.This has also been shown to increase NO production but to a much lesser degree (from the studies it looks to be about 70% above placebo).
 
m1k3_d0z4 said:
So does Spectra Orac = S7?

Spectra Orac is the trademark ingredient used in preKaged and other products. S7 is a different trademarked ingredient, but yeah the profiles look similar.

I wonder what the difference is?
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S7 looks more promising to me....only time will tell though. Call me biased, but you can normally depend on OL using premium and effective ingredients.

In my prior post, I was referencing how Spectra Tm was a different blend of ingredients in Pre-Kaged vs the Spectra Tm that we see in White Wharped. Just seems kind of odd :)

At the end of the day, I know what product I will be purchasing so I am all good
 
thebigt said:
l-citrulline needs less to be effective than cit-mal...glad to see companies switching to l-cit and dropping cit mal....
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Stuff like this drives me nuts and makes me call bs on a lot of supps. A few years ago you had to use cit mal... over hyped and bs
 
00A said:
Dont see ingredients list- some kind of joke?
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New website. Working on it. I'll get the facts panel though, gimme a sec
 
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