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booneman77 said:
But not all 19s are tren was what he was inferring
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Fair enough, I was just thinking along the lines of: if it's a 19nor that's designed to convert to tren once in the system, then it's still a 19nor that has tren-like properties haha
 
AntM1564 said:
So people relying on a drug, in order to function, is perfectly fine and healthy?
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Caffeine isn't a problem... Cocaine now, that's a helluva drug. Definitely don't see it as "sad". I've never seen a household destroyed over a persons caffeine use. Its perfectly fine with me
 
Godstrength said:
Caffeine isn't a problem... Cocaine now, that's a helluva drug. Definitely don't see it as "sad". I've never seen a household destroyed over a persons caffeine use. Its perfectly fine with me
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Well, I never said caffeine is destructive or ruins society. I simply said said, which destroy is not a synonym for.
 
AntM1564 said:
Well, I never said caffeine is destructive or ruins society. I simply said said, which destroy is not a synonym for.
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Yeah I get that, I guess it all boils down to what one sees as sad. Destroyed homes is sad to me. Someone needing a cup of coffee to wake up in the am not so much.
 
^I hate these when I blend my shake, and I prefer my shakes blended. (My loss)

Looks insanely good for use in a shaker or baked goods
 
AntM1564 said:
So people relying on a drug, in order to function, is perfectly fine and healthy?
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If it's caffeine, it could be a lot worse, considering there aren't really any negative impacts of regular/moderate caffeine consumption (it's not particularly expensive, unhealthy, or illegal, etc), so as long as people don't constantly escalate the dose to dangerous levels, having a few cups of coffee worth of caffeine a day doesn't really seem like a bad thing (and may even be healthy), as long as it's not taken to excess.
 
Driven2lift said:
^I hate these when I blend my shake, and I prefer my shakes blended. (My loss)

Looks insanely good for use in a shaker or baked goods
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When i blend shakes in my ninja with mix-ins like that they just get blended up Just like the pastry pieces in ghost whey blueberry. If you use a blender bottle then they get stuck at the bottom, and your sipping on chunks.

Blender >> Blender Bottles for shakes. No issues and totally mixed up. Not everyone always has the access to one based off their lifestyle and being home.
 
Even when I am not home I prep ahead from blended and just keep it cool. I almost never need to do that but if I had to run and had no protein cooked, that is what would happen
 
Godstrength said:
Caffeine isn't a problem... Cocaine now, that's a helluva drug. Definitely don't see it as "sad". I've never seen a household destroyed over a persons caffeine use. Its perfectly fine with me
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Cocaine is really not as bad as people think it is really. Yeah it's worse than weed and steroids by far, however, it's too expensive to use all the time. Rather that than meth
 
Clipper83 said:
Cocaine is really not as bad as people think it is really. Yeah it's worse than weed and steroids by far, however, it's too expensive to use all the time. Rather that than meth
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Comparing cocaine to caffeine is just absurd. How in the hell can you say "it's not as bad as people think"??? It's one of the most addictive drugs in existence. That alone makes it dangerous.

And saying something is better than meth is like saying something tastes better than a pile of shiit... dear god.
 
Clipper83 said:
Cocaine is really not as bad as people think it is really. Yeah it's worse than weed and steroids by far, however, it's too expensive to use all the time. Rather that than meth
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Really? "It's too expensive for people to use all the time?" Because addicts are obviously known for their smart financial planning and adhering to budgets...

Forget cocaine, I'll have some of whatever you're smoking.
 
Godstrength said:
Caffeine isn't a problem... Cocaine now, that's a helluva drug. Definitely don't see it as "sad". I've never seen a household destroyed over a persons caffeine use. Its perfectly fine with me
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lol...my wife gets pretty darned vicious in the morning if we run out of coffee..i try my best for that not to happen!!!
 
thebigt said:
lol...my wife gets pretty darned vicious in the morning if we run out of coffee..i try my best for that not to happen!!!
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She needs her coffee eh? Well she has a drug addiction!!! Time for an intervention ;)
 
I kind of think along the lines of...if you have to say it's not as bad as cocaine...it must be pretty bad lol

I would try to avoid that line of thought, it's not helping





I know a guy who works crazy hours (steel mills), all kinds of ****, 16 hour shifts, so many hours in a week sometimes I don't know how it's possible, swing shifts, you name it...he's gone through weed, alcohol, tried cocaine, obviously caffeine, etc, in his life, pretty damn straight and clean now...the ONE thing he says is the most addictive that he still wants for every single day even though it's been years without, is nicotine.
 
AntM1564 said:
So people relying on a drug, in order to function, is perfectly fine and healthy?
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But it's legal. If it were bad it would be banned because governments know best LOL
But seriously I might fall into depression if coffee ever got restricted.

Sure high caffeine consumption is a problem specially when it comes from supplements but coffee itself is great.
 
Speaking of coffee.....
I absolutely love the taste, so I drink it..
looks like 2020 the ban of coffee is coming






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bosskardo said:
But it's legal. If it were bad it would be banned because governments know best LOL
But seriously I might fall into depression if coffee ever got restricted.

Sure high caffeine consumption is a problem specially when it comes from supplements but coffee itself is great.
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If you look at the data of Coffe, I can bet many overweight people still live thanks to their daily intake of coffe.
 
Danes said:
If you look at the data of Coffe, I can bet many overweight people still live thanks to their daily intake of coffe.
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Yeah, coffee is great. More difficult to overconsume too.
I endorse the use for everyone except real hard medical conditions.

I actually read a study some time ago that alcohol drinkers who don't drink coffee have over 2x more chance for liver disease.
In my opinion an espresso before going drinking and a double first thing next morning is vital.

But with caffeine is easy to go too far and it lacks many benefits coffee has
 
booneman77 said:
Comparing cocaine to caffeine is just absurd. How in the hell can you say "it's not as bad as people think"??? It's one of the most addictive drugs in existence. That alone makes it dangerous.

And saying something is better than meth is like saying something tastes better than a pile of shiit... dear god.
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Have you taken any drugs yourself?
 
Clipper83 said:
Have you taken any drugs yourself? Cocaine really isn't as addictive as many people think it is. You don't really see a "cocaine epidemic" like you do with other drugs.

Opioids, nicotine, meth, and benzos are far more addictive than cocaine will ever be.

PS, not saying cocaine is good and can't be addictive to some, just that it isn't this hardcore drug that's killing thousands every day.
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Cocaine is bad, let's just leave it at that. You do know that there are about 2000 deaths resulting from cocaine overdose per year in the US, right?
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Cocaine is bad, let's just leave it at that. You do know that there are about 2000 deaths resulting from cocaine overdose per year in the US, right?
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As of 2015 it was on the rise with nearly 7,000 that year. =P

Legal, prescription opioids killed more like 17,000.....this would be people obtaining it both legally and illegally course, whereas there is no 'legal cocaine' :D So realistically, those are worse than cocaine, but I digress......
 
nubioso said:
As of 2015 it was on the rise with nearly 7,000 that year. =P

Legal, prescription opioids killed more like 17,000.....this would be people obtaining it both legally and illegally course, whereas there is no 'legal cocaine' :D So realistically, those are worse than cocaine, but I digress......
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You can't tell or say which is "worse" based on this. I'm willing to bet there are a LOT more users of prescription opiods than there are users of cocaine. A much better metric would be % of people who use prescription opiods who die vs % of people who use cocaine and die. Here I"m willing to bet the mortality rate of cocaine users is higher, and I'm also willing to bet there are more negative, let's say, "IRL side effects", related to cocaine use, on average, than prescription opiods.
 
But no one talks about this ???

An estimated 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women9) die from alcohol-related causes annually !!!
 
Rocket3015 said:
But no one talks about this ???

An estimated 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women9) die from alcohol-related causes annually !!!
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Who said no one talks about that? We know prohibition doesn't work, so you can't just outlaw alcohol. As someone already mentioned regarding different drugs, although alcohol is certainly responsible for a greater number of deaths/etc, that's just because so so so many more people drink than, say, do cocaine. I'd think that as a percent of the number of people who use it, cocaine leads to more deaths/etc than alcohol.
 
Farlesworth said:
You can't tell or say which is "worse" based on this. I'm willing to bet there are a LOT more users of prescription opiods than there are users of cocaine. A much better metric would be % of people who use prescription opiods who die vs % of people who use cocaine and die. Here I"m willing to bet the mortality rate of cocaine users is higher, and I'm also willing to bet there are more negative, let's say, "IRL side effects", related to cocaine use, on average, than prescription opiods.
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I never claimed one was 'worse', I simply provided numbers based on someone else's statement of 2,000 deaths per year on cocaine.

Best I could find is something like 1.5million users of cocaine in the US versus 20 million opioid users. So yeah, of course there are more opioid users, because again, it's being over prescribed. So that's about 0.005% of cocaine users who die vs 0.0009% of opioid users who die.
 
nubioso said:
I never claimed one was 'worse', I simply provided numbers based on someone else's statement of 2,000 deaths per year on cocaine.

Best I could find is something like 1.5million users of cocaine in the US versus 20 million opioid users. So yeah, of course there are more opioid users, because again, it's being over prescribed. So that's about 0.005% of cocaine users who die vs 0.0009% of opioid users who die.
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The 2000 I mentioned was for cocaine without opioids; it was around 5000 with opioids, and around 7000 total involving cocaine.
 
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