The New Product Release Thread

VaughnTrue said:
the price on it is crazy. That's the only reason I don't have it in my monthly rotation right now on rep orders.
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I love Humapro that apple cider is redic :) bought several tubs of it

chedapalooza said:
Bah milk thistle... Research showing ill effects on muscle building
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I assume its taken away from lifting? it's being marketed for brain health/general health and so forth to be taken along with the Orange Triad which you also wouldn't be taking pre workout.
 
paul56778 said:
Do you have any benefits over humapro vs an amino acid supplement like Amino IV by PES, or Scivation Xtend.
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Amino IV is not the same as Xtend with additions of HICA I like Amino IV

I used Amino IV intra workout well either it or Resurgence both using HICA and in the evenings I use the Humapro between meals on my cut but it is also not just EAA's but includes greentea & bittermelon
 
Rob1882 said:
Amino IV is not the same as Xtend with additions of HICA I like Amino IV

I used Amino IV intra workout well either it or Resurgence both using HICA and in the evenings I use the Humapro between meals on my cut but it is also not just EAA's but includes greentea & bittermelon
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Amino IV = EAA product

Xtend = more of BCAA product.
 
paul56778 said:
But would you replace whey altogether with Humapro.
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No I would not

amino acid supplement like Amino IV by PES, or Scivation Xtend.
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And that was my entire point as to your other post they are not the same I just didn't further elaborate but that should be a given you lumped them together in your post as if Amino IV and Xtend were the same :P

Edit: I like humapro more than Xtend's normal Xtend but I am not using Humapro as I would Xtend ( which I would use pre workout ) and I don't use Amino IV/Resurgence as I would either of those
 
paul56778 said:
Do you have any benefits over humapro vs an amino acid supplement like Amino IV by PES, or Scivation Xtend.
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paul56778 said:
But would you replace whey altogether with Humapro.
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here is some information on the amino acid blend being used in Humapro, and some justification for why they chose the marketing they did on it...


all info comes from Master Amino Project:


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This is showing that the nitrogen retention of this specific formula of aminos was actually greater than that of whole proteins. It's weird, and it doesn't make sense in my brain, but all the studies using this specific ratio/formula all show the same thing. Look at the nitrogen retention % as well as the calories/g.




Some published studies:


Master Amino acid Pattern as substitute for dietary proteins during a weight-loss diet to achieve the body's nitrogen balance equilibrium with essentially no calories.


Abstract
Results of this multicentric study have shown that by giving 10 g (10 tablets) of Master Amino acid Pattern (MAP) as a substitute for dietary proteins, once a day, to 114 overweight participants undergoing the American Nutrition Clinics/Overweight Management Program (ANC/OMP), the participants' nitrogen balance could be maintained in equilibrium with essentially no calories (MAP 1 g=0.04 kcal), thereby preserving the body's structural and functional proteins, eliminating excessive water retention from the interstitial compartment, and preventing the sudden weight increase after study conclusion commonly known as the yo-yo effect. Study results have shown that the use of MAP, in conjunction with the ANC/OMP, has proven to be safe and effective by preventing those adverse effects associated with a negative nitrogen balance, such as oversized or flabby tissue, stretch marks, sagging of breast tissue, increased hair loss, faded hair color, and fragile or brittle nails. Also preventing those anomalies commonly associated with weight-loss diets, such as hunger, weakness, headache caused by ketosis, constipation, or decreased libido, the use of MAP, in conjunction with the ANC/OMP, allowed for mean weight loss of 1.4 kg (3 lb) per week.
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Note how this ratio/formula allowed for fat loss averaging 3lbs/week, while a recent study on Xtend actually showed a reduction in fat loss in participants.


Master Amino acid Pattern as sole and total substitute for dietary proteins during a weight-loss diet to achieve the body's nitrogen balance equilibrium.

Abstract
Results of this multicentric study have shown that by giving Master Amino acid Pattern (MAP) as a sole and total substitute of dietary proteins to 500 overweight participants undergoing the American Nutrition Clinics/Overweight Management Program (ANC/OMP), the participants' body nitrogen balance could be maintained in equilibrium with essentially no calories (MAP 1 g=0.04 kcal), thereby preserving the body's structural and functional proteins, eliminating excessive water retention from the interstitial compartment, and preventing the sudden weight increase after study conclusion commonly known as the yo-yo effect. Study results have shown that the use of MAP, in conjunction with the ANC/OMP regimen, has proven to be safe and effective by preventing those adverse effects associated with a negative nitrogen balance, such as oversized or flabby tissue, stretch marks, the sagging of breast tissue, increased hair loss, faded hair color, and fragile or brittle nails. Also prevented were those anomalies commonly associated with weight-loss diets, such as hunger, weakness, headache caused by ketosis, constipation, and decreased libido. The use of MAP in conjunction with the ANC/OMP also allowed for mean weight loss of 2.5 kg (5.5 lb) per week, achieved through reduction of excessive fat tissue and elimination of excessive water retention from the interstitial compartment.
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Now this study is CRAZY in that they used the same basis as the above study, but this amino formula accounted for 100% of the participants daily "protein".



Results of taking Master Amino acid Pattern as a sole and total substitute of dietary proteins in an athlete during a desert crossing.



Abstract
Study results show that a 51-year-old female athlete, while taking the Master Amino acid Pattern (MAP) as a sole and total substitute for dietary protein, and performing physical activity, experienced (1) increased body muscle mass, strength, and endurance; (2) decreased body fat mass; (3) greater increase in performance of the nonprevailing muscles compared to the prevailing muscles; (4) improved cardiorespiratory performance; and (5) increased red blood cells, hemoglobin, and hematocrit parameters. It was concluded, confirming previous findings, that use of MAP as a sole and total substitute for dietary protein, in conjunction with physical activity, provides safer, unprecedented optimization of the body's protein synthesis, thereby improving anthropometric characteristics and physical and physiologic performance.
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n=1 so you can't take this study for more than its really worth, however the results are pretty damn cool.


Comparative results between two groups of track-and-field athletes with or without the use of Master Amino acid Pattern as protein substitute.

Abstract
Comparative results of this study have shown that athletes, by taking the Master Amino acid Pattern (MAP) as a dietary protein substitute and performing physical activity, have had (1) increased body muscle mass, strength, and endurance; (2) decreased fat mass; (3) increased basal metabolism rate; (4) greater improvement in performance of the nonprevailing muscles compared to the prevailing ones; and (5) improved muscular and hematologic lactate clearance, which allows for better muscle performance and faster muscle recovery after physical activity. It was concluded that the use of MAP as a dietary protein substitute in conjunction with physical activity can provide a safe and unprecedented way to optimize the body's protein synthesis, thereby improving anthropometric characteristics and physical and physiologic performance.
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Rob1882 said:
5%in 4 lyfe

Were freaks, we just eat people... leaving humanity behind! Right Babe :)
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come zombie time, well all be prepared - eat the meat BABE lol
 
VaughnTrue said:
300mg/pill. The 6oxo-delta4 is dosed VERY low, as it is potent at much lower levels than the other ingredients in the list.

If we could have fit 100 pills in there and made it affordable, we would have. This product is extremely expensive to produce(there is a reason companies aren't selling the andros in 300mg/pill doses...no one woul dbe able to afford the product), and as such we couldn't go to our usual 60 cap and keep the same price point.

And yea... a lot of eggs are being put in the Cyclosome delivery(not liposomal, but pharmaceutical blend of both liposomal and cyclo delivery)...so many eggs in fact that Hi-Tech bought an entire pharmaceutical company JUST for the machinery needed to made this delivery system. Our logger reviews on here are showing just how potent it is. 200mg of the 1-andro has people with 9-16.8lbs gained in just 4 weeks
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No one can say you don't put in the time, that's for sure :) But I still have to point out:

Comparing a prop blend with 100'ish mg of 1-Andro per cap, to your straight non-prop 200mg per cap 1-Andro products isn't the same - unless you double dose this one to compare.

I, as a regular schmuck, can get 1-Andro and 4-AD raws for $3.70 per gram each. I'm sure one of the biggest supplement OEMs can do a lot better than that :D It's not that expensive.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
No one can say you don't put in the time, that's for sure :) But I still have to point out:

Comparing a prop blend with 100'ish mg of 1-Andro per cap, to your straight non-prop 200mg per cap 1-Andro products isn't the same - unless you double dose this one to compare.

I, as a regular schmuck, can get 1-Andro and 4-AD raws for $3.70 per gram each. I'm sure one of the biggest supplement OEMs can do a lot better than that :D It's not that expensive.
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I'm not sure I'm following.

Superdrol has 300mg/cap, not 200mg.

And yes, it is possible to get 1-andro/4-andro raws, and at $3.70/g that's $3,700kg. Then you have testing, capping, bottle/label/shipping and every other cost involved. These ingredients are VERY expensive, and produce far less margins for companies than they are used to getting on something like a pre-workout/fat burner/test booster/amino drink.


If you don't like Superdrol, we have the 1-TESTOSTERONE which offers the highest single dose of the ingredient on the market @ 110mg/tab + 50mg DHB and that is all comprised within our advanced delivery system which is providing amazing results on our loggers who are running this compound at only 200mg/day whereas the study was performed at 330mg/day.

Don't like prop blends? I understand that. Use literally any other prohormone we make that isn't in a prop blend. Pretty simple
 
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Protein Pudding from SciTec

A few days before that we were introduced to another new product named Raging Blood, then a few days after we met the brand’s 11th new supplement in five days, BCAA + Glutamine Xpress. Believe it or not Scitec has now in fact confirmed another new product, making it 12 in just one week with Scitec Protein Pudding.

No Macros or info yet available.
 
New look ....same great product
 

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VaughnTrue said:
I'm not sure I'm following.

Superdrol has 300mg/cap, not 200mg.
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300mg of 7 components, correct? So even distribution would be ~42mg each. Pixie dusting the bottom 5 of the 7 and throwing the most mg's to the 4-AD and 1-Andro would be ~149mg each, max, per cap... but it's probably less than that.

*I* can get the raws for that price - Hi-Tech can probably get them for under $2/Gram.
 
chedapalooza said:
The study I saw QUOTED (did not see the study) was posted by the chief formulator of Blackstone and he said not to use it on cycle or in pct! There's other liver health options out there
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I think that's a little overblown personally. That's for another thread, though :)
 
chedapalooza said:
The study I saw QUOTED (did not see the study) was posted by the chief formulator of Blackstone and he said not to use it on cycle or in pct! There's other liver health options out there
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This is in regards to oral prohormone use.

But yes, TUDCA or NAC > Milk Thistle if wanting something for liver health.
 
New from Chaos and Pain

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Both products are going to feature the one ingredient mentioned in their titles with 2-Aminoisoheptane including DMHA, and Orchilean, cymbidium goeringii extract. The remaining question then of course is what dose has Chaos and Pain set each one at.
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Reh-heh-ly glad to see this...I recall asking for this months ago in a C&P thread... Very nice.

mw1 said:
New look ....same great product
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Saaaa-lick look! Love it!
 
It's hard to keep up with everything coming out !
 
1Fast400 said:
Nutraplanet
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Honest feedback man - pricing on Xtend Perform is too high for me to justify it and I would rather see a direct discount on it for the Easter sale vs a stack with a fb.
Just my .02
 
It's the same price per serving as a 30 serve. A 30 serve is 23~25 this is 44 servings for 38. It costs nothing per serving to try what I believe one of the most impactful ingredients we will see next 2 years. Pre workouts, proteins and everything else will have peak 02 in a year
 
1Fast400 said:
It's the same price per serving as a 30 serve. A 30 serve is 23~25 this is 44 servings for 38. It costs nothing per serving to try what I believe one of the most impactful ingredients we will see next 2 years. Pre workouts, proteins and everything else will have peak 02 in a year
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Fair enough, interested for more feedback on it then.
 
p5sky said:
Only one way to find out ;). Go to their sites.
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True. Two reasons I asked the owner of the company. 1. Because I am lazy.
2. To show him there is a possible need to supply other supplement eStores with their products. I am no longer a fan of Nutraplanet, but I have had good experiences with Nutriverse and TGB so I will only purchased from them now.
 
Direct accounts get it first, others have to buy from distribution, which adds 3-4 days to process. Nutraplanet is the closest retailer to our warehouse so they naturally got it first. By end of next week most online retailers should have it. We sell to everyone so if someone isn't carrying it, ask them too. The two largest distributors that sell to 98% of accounts will have it in all locations by next week. A new item takes a few extra days due to setups in their systems.

I've been doing this a long time, 15 years. I have a lot of reputations, but overselling and over hyping a product has never been one of them. I'm very excited about both of our new products. The joint product already has feedback being posted within a week of starting it. Doing things with science takes a hell of a lot longer but so worth it. Notice how we don't reformulate and come out with new sku's every 4 months. That's what happens when you fairy dust ****, you have to hope marketing sells it.
 
GNO said:
Fair enough, interested for more feedback on it then.
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I'll let ya know, I won't be able to run it consistently until I get back in town in a week, but I can already tell you it tastes like heaven
 
1Fast400 said:
Looking forward to feedback now that flexatril and xtend perform are arriving to some people.
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I have two bottles of Perform on its way to me. Somehow strained my back last night so won't be another 5-10 days before I can try it at the earliest. :(

Might have to head back to the PT for some more hip mobility stuff and whatnot. Shouldn't have stopped it early a year and half ago... But you know those feels about getting proper PT work done.
 
I live at an amazing ART. Used to head up Duke and USATF as a chiropractor. My hands and hips are functional because of him. Sucks that I will be compromised in some fashion for rest of my life.
 
1Fast400 said:
It's the same price per serving as a 30 serve. A 30 serve is 23~25 this is 44 servings for 38. It costs nothing per serving to try what I believe one of the most impactful ingredients we will see next 2 years. Pre workouts, proteins and everything else will have peak 02 in a year
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Any chance you'll be making a 90 serving? I'm a thrifty buyer ?
 
Any other hints on what may be in the pipeline 1Fast400 ?
It was an honor to beta test both the Joint Product (last year) and the Xtend Performance before release. I can't wait to see Flexatril get the feedback it deserves. The best part was no sides coming off the joint product and dealing with massive elbow issues. Everything held up on its own even after the run ended.
 
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