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The dissapearing man

It was, I got a little piece left over that's going with eggs for meal 1 today.
Work got canceled today so I'm actually cleaning the house to get on her back side,I. Ean good side. I'm listening to his drug vs. Drug videos right now.

I use slin pins as much as possible but IL check it out after I get done with these. He's a big masteron fan it seems
And that's my problem as you will see. He uses mast as his primary anabolic for growth in that video. He keeps test at trt levels and says to add calories until the weight gain becomes soft and then increase the mast. It's hard to explain you'll have to watch it. Obviously I'm gonna start running mast next month but test and eq are gona be my anabolic drivers
 
Same with cleaning supplies and stuff. You see lots of stuff that might say..... now in our new 32oz bottle, great, but the old bottle was 36oz and same price
My dad first showed my this scam with dryers ice cream or it may be Edy's where you're at. It use to be in a 24 oz container and then they made into a 20oz one and started charging more. It's one thing to raise the price but a whole different set of scumbag to increase the price AND decrease supply
 
My dad first showed my this scam with dryers ice cream or it may be Edy's where you're at. It use to be in a 24 oz container and then they made into a 20oz one and started charging more. It's one thing to raise the price but a whole different set of scumbag to increase the price AND decrease supply
Total drug dealer tactic.
 
And that's my problem as you will see. He uses mast as his primary anabolic for growth in that video. He keeps test at trt levels and says to add calories until the weight gain becomes soft and then increase the mast. It's hard to explain you'll have to watch it. Obviously I'm gonna start running mast next month but test and eq are gona be my anabolic drivers
I wanna say Vigorous Steve just covered something similar on “Cycles For Dummies” vid. As far as keep upping calories w same mg until soft then up drugs to match calories.
 
Damn you're chest got waaayyy bigger!! You're not all delts anymore. Lats are wide af too. Nice job and you're only half natty
Lats just started showing up a few months ago. Even tho I cut way back on the bodybuilding stuff I been doing tons of chins/pull ups and it definitely helped. That picture is not a accurate representation of my bf tho. It's higher then the picture looks. Probably 12-13% still. It's almost like once I loaded the 5 days of anadrol the look stayed after I dropped it.
 
I wanna say Vigorous Steve just covered something similar on “Cycles For Dummies” vid. As far as keep upping calories w same mg until soft then up drugs to match calories.
That's kinda common sense tho. I think the majority of ppl know there supposed to up the food first and the drugs second and just chose to up the drugs first. Then they can't understand why there on 2 grams of gear and 168lbs. No bricks to build with
 
That's kinda common sense tho. I think the majority of ppl know there supposed to up the food first and the drugs second and just chose to up the drugs first. Then they can't understand why there on 2 grams of gear and 168lbs. No bricks to build with
That’s the problem with a lot of these youngsters, or newbies, they think adding the drugs is the solution, but obviously don’t understand or won’t to accept it’s the food and training….the drugs enhance the fuel and training.
There’s an 18 year old kid on here that’s started a few different threads on what steroids to take, and when you see his list of anabolics and cycle ideas you can tell he is reckless doesn’t listen to good advice, then he’ll start another thread asking the same type of stuff just in a different way. I think you even tried to straighten him out, and he responded with some smart teenager comment. He’s gonna mess his self up then post wanting advice on how to fix what he screwed up. Sad part is he is just 18, and could be taking advantage of all those young raging hormones.
 
Lats just started showing up a few months ago. Even tho I cut way back on the bodybuilding stuff I been doing tons of chins/pull ups and it definitely helped. That picture is not a accurate representation of my bf tho. It's higher then the picture looks. Probably 12-13% still. It's almost like once I loaded the 5 days of anadrol the look stayed after I dropped it.
Chins/ pull ups= width
Deads/ heavy bb rows= thickness
I know we talk a lot of crap about Arnold's encyclopedia and rightfully so but in it he does say to get in 30 chins every back session. Just max out every set until 30 even if yiu have to start out at 30 sets of 1
 
Just caught up. I'm following.
Welcome, IL be honest, I'm having a hard time keeping up with relevant updates lately but I'm less then 4 weeks away now and doing double sessions many days. It's getting rough to train, eat, work, train some more and sleep.

I'm finding that even getting 5 meals in is tough because there's so little downtime and I need close to a empty stomach for training sessions or IL puke.
 
Last night I woke up at 130am again and couldn't really fall back asleep.

Had a cup of Greek yogurt and a protein bar on my way out the door, lunch is meat and vegetables, pre workout is a "powerful oats cup with 1/2 cup lactose free milk" post workout is ground turkey and rice and whatever calories I have left will determine my last meal.

I'm probably just going to add a shake over cereal on the days I'm doing doubles or doubles + running. I'm kinda lost to be honest lol
 
Last night I woke up at 130am again and couldn't really fall back asleep.

Had a cup of Greek yogurt and a protein bar on my way out the door, lunch is meat and vegetables, pre workout is a "powerful oats cup with 1/2 cup lactose free milk" post workout is ground turkey and rice and whatever calories I have left will determine my last meal.

I'm probably just going to add a shake over cereal on the days I'm doing doubles or doubles + running. I'm kinda lost to be honest lol
Luckily you have enough experience with nutrition to make it work on the fly. You got this.
 
Luckily you have enough experience with nutrition to make it work on the fly. You got this.
I know, and I need to keep reminding myself, I'm not eating to build muscle. I'm eating for fuel and energy more importantly then anything. I need to stop worrying about 250gm of protein and just make sure I'm eating enough for fuel, recovery and to feel good. And with double sessions the calorie demand is pretty high
 
I know, and I need to keep reminding myself, I'm not eating to build muscle. I'm eating for fuel and energy more importantly then anything. I need to stop worrying about 250gm of protein and just make sure I'm eating enough for fuel, recovery and to feel good. And with double sessions the calorie demand is pretty high
Yeah might as well drop to .8/lb while you are cutting leave more room for carbs for energy to train.
 
Yeah might as well drop to .8/lb while you are cutting leave more room for carbs for energy to train.
I'm curious how some of these guys would look and perform if they added 50 gm of protein a day or even 100gm. I've talked to several boxers and mma fighters on this topic and they only pay attention to what they eat when they have to make weight. Almost none of them follow a structured diet.

The large majority of them skip breakfast, have a sandwich or leftover dinner at lunch and they eat whatever there wife/girlfriend/significant other makes for dinner. If no1 cooks it's a grinder or some kind of semi-fast food take-out. I'd like to see what I need to do to get whatever the most basic nutrition certificate or schooling to be able to legally provide nutrition plans. Even when I do meal plans for ppl I always include "I'm not a registered dietician, this meal plan is a basic outline of how I would eat in your situation and is not professional advice"
 
I know, and I need to keep reminding myself, I'm not eating to build muscle. I'm eating for fuel and energy more importantly then anything. I need to stop worrying about 250gm of protein and just make sure I'm eating enough for fuel, recovery and to feel good. And with double sessions the calorie demand is pretty high
It’s hard to blow up that mindset on the protein. How long have u shot for 250g a day? I shoot for that now at 190ish. It’s an easy number to hit if u do 5 melas w 50g each. But a hard habit to break. I def can relate. I am accustomed to lifting heavy and not being able to count into double digits w reps. “Why do u lift heavy?” “I can’t count over 8”
Just to get 15 reps in I count to 8 twice and do one more. I’m kidding obviously, but over time certain things get instilled in us and we become stubborn. You got this man!!!
 
It depends on your state. Many are pretty "lax".

I am not advocating for just going gung ho, but I've seen people who just do individual stuff and go above what they really should be handing out and unless you piss off the wrong person (which I've personally never even seen happen) not much ever happens. People who do more than they should annoy me, but its not worth my time worrying about.

General guidelines in the link, you can check your specific state for more if needed:
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Thank you. I definitely will check this out. The gym is full of "athletes" but outside of a few pros it's mostly gen pop, but seems like no1 really has a handle on nutrition. I originally went to school for exercise science and sports nutrition just because it seemed like a entry level way to get into the "field" and life and kids got in the way. Currently I have 7 ppl I do diet and training for privately and I never take more then 10 because I want to be kinda hands on. But I'd be telling fibs if I said I'm training athletes. I have 1 person with real physique goals, a friends son who's a college student and plays d3 football and the other 5 are just overweight and looking to get to a healthy weight.

I need to up my diet knowledge and get some credentials if I'm gonna actually ever do something beyond what I'm already doing
 
I'm curious how some of these guys would look and perform if they added 50 gm of protein a day or even 100gm. I've talked to several boxers and mma fighters on this topic and they only pay attention to what they eat when they have to make weight. Almost none of them follow a structured diet.

The large majority of them skip breakfast, have a sandwich or leftover dinner at lunch and they eat whatever there wife/girlfriend/significant other makes for dinner. If no1 cooks it's a grinder or some kind of semi-fast food take-out. I'd like to see what I need to do to get whatever the most basic nutrition certificate or schooling to be able to legally provide nutrition plans. Even when I do meal plans for ppl I always include "I'm not a registered dietician, this meal plan is a basic outline of how I would eat in your situation and is not professional advice"
This is where bodybuilders will never get the credit they deserve as far as athletic nutrition goes. All these professional athletes and teams have finally realized how important nutrition and recovery are. I see these professional athletes diets and I'm like Arnold and frank Zane were doing this in the 70s. Joe weider knew how important protein was in the 60s for anabolism but scince bodybuilding was a "fringe" sport no one took him seriously. Bodybuilders knew to cut carbs way before dr Atkins came out with that b.s. diet. The problem with Dr Atkins was a forgets to mention cutting carbs is a only a temporary duet before a show not something that's a permanent solution
 
This is where bodybuilders will never get the credit they deserve as far as athletic nutrition goes. All these professional athletes and teams have finally realized how important nutrition and recovery are. I see these professional athletes diets and I'm like Arnold and frank Zane were doing this in the 70s. Joe weider knew how important protein was in the 60s for anabolism but scince bodybuilding was a "fringe" sport no one took him seriously. Bodybuilders knew to cut carbs way before dr Atkins came out with that b.s. diet. The problem with Dr Atkins was a forgets to mention cutting carbs is a only a temporary duet before a show not something that's a permanent solution
I need to go beyond that a bit too. Learn more about addressing micronutrient deficiencies, sport specific dietary needs and I need to learn more about nutrition for the general public as a whole. It's easy for me to tell someone to eat meat and rice 4x a day and no carbs with meal 5 or whatever. But most people will not adhere to thst, and in order to help ppl they need to be able to comply.

I like to tell ppl the old 80/20 rule but most don't comply to that correctly either. They hear 80/20 and think 1 out of every 5 meals is a cheat. No way lol. 80% of your daily calories from meat, vegetables, fruit and rice or potatoes ect. And 20% of your calories are your decision. That's how I like to structure it. John meadows was big on that for most ppl.

If your eating 2500 calories a day, that means 2000 ate from your approved foods list and you get a protein goal. The other 500 cal is your 20% fun stuff.

I get ppl eating 4 meals and then have a 1500 cal dinner cheat. That's more then 50% of your calories and ppl don't seem to get it. They justify 1 out of 5 as 20% regardless of calories and run with it lol.

I've done it myself 👋
 
This is where bodybuilders will never get the credit they deserve as far as athletic nutrition goes. All these professional athletes and teams have finally realized how important nutrition and recovery are. I see these professional athletes diets and I'm like Arnold and frank Zane were doing this in the 70s. Joe weider knew how important protein was in the 60s for anabolism but scince bodybuilding was a "fringe" sport no one took him seriously. Bodybuilders knew to cut carbs way before dr Atkins came out with that b.s. diet. The problem with Dr Atkins was a forgets to mention cutting carbs is a only a temporary duet before a show not something that's a permanent solution
That’s so true, and really sad how many people think Doctors know about nutrition, and almost every Doctor I’ve talked with has no clue on nutrition or supplements, much less exercise.
Smont I think that would be a great idea, especially since you already technically have clients. And unlike a fat Doctor that a patient should be able to tell he doesn’t know what he is talking about, your physique is proof you know what works.
 
I'm curious how some of these guys would look and perform if they added 50 gm of protein a day or even 100gm. I've talked to several boxers and mma fighters on this topic and they only pay attention to what they eat when they have to make weight. Almost none of them follow a structured diet.

The large majority of them skip breakfast, have a sandwich or leftover dinner at lunch and they eat whatever there wife/girlfriend/significant other makes for dinner. If no1 cooks it's a grinder or some kind of semi-fast food take-out. I'd like to see what I need to do to get whatever the most basic nutrition certificate or schooling to be able to legally provide nutrition plans. Even when I do meal plans for ppl I always include "I'm not a registered dietician, this meal plan is a basic outline of how I would eat in your situation and is not professional advice"
I got the Precision Nutrition Coaching Certificate it was a very well written course. However even with that I am not allowed to give a meal plan. You have to be a Certified Dietician or Nutritionist to write meal plans. At least legfally and although noone would ever give you a criminal charge you would lose your ass in a lawsuit if you gave one and weren't registered to do so. However we just got around it by providing the meal plan as "a sample meal plan." If the person chose to build their diet off of a sample meal plan that is them choosing their course of action, and not doing it under my direction legally.
This is where bodybuilders will never get the credit they deserve as far as athletic nutrition goes. All these professional athletes and teams have finally realized how important nutrition and recovery are. I see these professional athletes diets and I'm like Arnold and frank Zane were doing this in the 70s. Joe weider knew how important protein was in the 60s for anabolism but scince bodybuilding was a "fringe" sport no one took him seriously. Bodybuilders knew to cut carbs way before dr Atkins came out with that b.s. diet. The problem with Dr Atkins was a forgets to mention cutting carbs is a only a temporary duet before a show not something that's a permanent solution
Oh yeah, we have definitely pushed the envelope in many ways, so we tend to be the first to find things out.
I need to go beyond that a bit too. Learn more about addressing micronutrient deficiencies, sport specific dietary needs and I need to learn more about nutrition for the general public as a whole. It's easy for me to tell someone to eat meat and rice 4x a day and no carbs with meal 5 or whatever. But most people will not adhere to thst, and in order to help ppl they need to be able to comply.

I like to tell ppl the old 80/20 rule but most don't comply to that correctly either. They hear 80/20 and think 1 out of every 5 meals is a cheat. No way lol. 80% of your daily calories from meat, vegetables, fruit and rice or potatoes ect. And 20% of your calories are your decision. That's how I like to structure it. John meadows was big on that for most ppl.

If your eating 2500 calories a day, that means 2000 ate from your approved foods list and you get a protein goal. The other 500 cal is your 20% fun stuff.

I get ppl eating 4 meals and then have a 1500 cal dinner cheat. That's more then 50% of your calories and ppl don't seem to get it. They justify 1 out of 5 as 20% regardless of calories and run with it lol.

I've done it myself 👋
The Precision Nutrition Cert provided all of that extra information, and was very good and informative. I believe RP has a Certified Nutrition Coach Course as well.

Oh yeah they don't get that the 80/20 is not per meal it is based on calories and 500 extra calories in a meal is nice but it isn't much if you are talking about something high in fat.
 
I got the Precision Nutrition Coaching Certificate it was a very well written course. However even with that I am not allowed to give a meal plan. You have to be a Certified Dietician or Nutritionist to write meal plans. At least legfally and although noone would ever give you a criminal charge you would lose your ass in a lawsuit if you gave one and weren't registered to do so. However we just got around it by providing the meal plan as "a sample meal plan." If the person chose to build their diet off of a sample meal plan that is them choosing their course of action, and not doing it under my direction legally.
Oh yeah, we have definitely pushed the envelope in many ways, so we tend to be the first to find things out.

The Precision Nutrition Cert provided all of that extra information, and was very good and informative. I believe RP has a Certified Nutrition Coach Course as well.

Oh yeah they don't get that the 80/20 is not per meal it is based on calories and 500 extra calories in a meal is nice but it isn't much if you are talking about something high in fat.
All good info, thank you. And ya, 500 cal goes quick. 3 oreos and a big glass of milk, hell, a blueberry muffin from most doughnut shops is 400-500cal
 
I need to go beyond that a bit too. Learn more about addressing micronutrient deficiencies, sport specific dietary needs and I need to learn more about nutrition for the general public as a whole. It's easy for me to tell someone to eat meat and rice 4x a day and no carbs with meal 5 or whatever. But most people will not adhere to thst, and in order to help ppl they need to be able to comply.

I like to tell ppl the old 80/20 rule but most don't comply to that correctly either. They hear 80/20 and think 1 out of every 5 meals is a cheat. No way lol. 80% of your daily calories from meat, vegetables, fruit and rice or potatoes ect. And 20% of your calories are your decision. That's how I like to structure it. John meadows was big on that for most ppl.

If your eating 2500 calories a day, that means 2000 ate from your approved foods list and you get a protein goal. The other 500 cal is your 20% fun stuff.

I get ppl eating 4 meals and then have a 1500 cal dinner cheat. That's more then 50% of your calories and ppl don't seem to get it. They justify 1 out of 5 as 20% regardless of calories and run with it lol.

I've done it myself 👋
Yea eating for athletic events is completely different than eating as a bodybuilder. I still think am athlete should get 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight but as far as carbs and fats and types of carbs and fats will be different. Micronutrients will be different as well probably depending on the sport/ event
 
Wish I had something fancy but not today. Back to chicken and rice or ground turkey. Cooked them both but opted for the chicken with some hot sauce and Greek yogurt dressing Invalid Link Removed

I did make a corn chowder yesterday with all the random veggies and some bacon. It was prerty good, but I gave it all away after I ate because I could see myself dipping in it all weekInvalid Link Removed
 
Yeah that chowder looks good!
 
5am, time for the first workout

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Hit the gym for a pull day

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Had one of these made with skim milk
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Gonna have a small coffee and when I actually get hungry I got a salad kit and a chicken breast.

IL do a Greek yogurt cup and some fruit before my boxing

Next workout at 5:45pm

And post workout is ground turkey and rice. It's 12oz ground turkey and 1 cup rice so IL probably mix it together with some taco season and salsa and make it into 2 small meals.
 
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Oh I forgot to write it in, my last/3rd set of db curls was with some cheats and alterations to squeeze out 20 reps
 
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Hit the gym for a pull day

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Had one of these made with skim milk
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Gonna have a small coffee and when I actually get hungry I got a salad kit and a chicken breast.

IL do a Greek yogurt cup and some fruit before my boxing

Next workout at 5:45pm

And post workout is ground turkey and rice. It's 12oz ground turkey and 1 cup rice so IL probably mix it together with some taco season and salsa and make it into 2 small meals.
Those oats look good. The Kodiak blueberries and cream protein packets are soo good especially of you add blueberries and some fairlife to them. The strawberries and cream was disappointing
 
I've had clam chowder before( new England) its good if you like soup so what's the difference between that and corn chowder
+corn -clam
 
Honestly chowders are like soups, so they can have different things in them. As you could see his corn chowder was veggie heavy. I think your normal Clam Chowder is the chowder, some clam obviously, and potatoes. I have never really had clam chowder with much more. Then you throw some of the small shaped crackers in there and go to town getting fat!
 
Those oats look good. The Kodiak blueberries and cream protein packets are soo good especially of you add blueberries and some fairlife to them. The strawberries and cream was disappointing
I snagged like 20 of those cups at ocean st joblot foe $1 each. I couldn't say no. The had 6 packs of pure protein bars for $5 too
 
So far so good. Need to drink more water too. I'm noticing I'm pissing a little dark and I'm not taking anything that would do that so gotta be dehydrated. I did do double sessions yesterday and run and on only a few hours sleep so it makes sense.

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I did take 20 mg of Rad 150 a few days in a row and I wasn't gonna mention it till I decided if I was keeping it in or not but I'm not. I actually noticed a immediate boost in sex drive and better workouts and I decided to save it for when im actually working on my physique goals. IL get a bottle of the injectable and after the fight IL run the 2 for 6 weeks while I cut some more after this match. I'm 192.0 this morning so I'm only gonna drop a few more lbs. It will be like my pre cycle, cycle lol. If this fight goes good and I don't get crushed as a cruiser weight IL let myself go back up to 200/210 after I strip a little more fat off. I kinda like the mini cuts and bulks if your not aiming for anything big.

I'm also just dieing to run a cycle lol
 
So far so good. Need to drink more water too. I'm noticing I'm pissing a little dark and I'm not taking anything that would do that so gotta be dehydrated. I did do double sessions yesterday and run and on only a few hours sleep so it makes sense.

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I did take 20 mg of Rad 150 a few days in a row and I wasn't gonna mention it till I decided if I was keeping it in or not but I'm not. I actually noticed a immediate boost in sex drive and better workouts and I decided to save it for when im actually working on my physique goals. IL get a bottle of the injectable and after the fight IL run the 2 for 6 weeks while I cut some more after this match. I'm 192.0 this morning so I'm only gonna drop a few more lbs. It will be like my pre cycle, cycle lol. If this fight goes good and I don't get crushed as a cruiser weight IL let myself go back up to 200/210 after I strip a little more fat off. I kinda like the mini cuts and bulks if your not aiming for anything big.

I'm also just dieing to run a cycle lol
Me too that's why I ordering some mast and eq today..it's been like 3 weeks I'm dying over here 😂
 
Me too that's why I ordering some mast and eq today..it's been like 3 weeks I'm dying over here 😂
I can't really remember how long it's been. Back in late February early March I did 30 days on a oral with like 300 test, added mast and got hurt, pulled the plug for a few weeks, started again and added something else but after 2 weeks I pulled the plug again and since may I did 5 days on anadrol and 5 days on rad. So other then 10 days on orals I've been on cruise for about 4 months?
 
I can't really remember how long it's been. Back in late February early March I did 30 days on a oral with like 300 test, added mast and got hurt, pulled the plug for a few weeks, started again and added something else but after 2 weeks I pulled the plug again and since may I did 5 days on anadrol and 5 days on rad. So other then 10 days on orals I've been on cruise for about 4 months?
When did you do that epistane cycle?
 
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