Very interesting discussion. My wish- please keep bsr around as it currently stands. Great product and will be part of my rotation going forward.
That is actually the book I was trying to remember when I posted my question. THANKS!!!Furthermore, I do not think there is a longitudinal study on healthy adults on Na-R-ALA to show whether those things take place. I could be wrong, and I would be happy to see that research.I am aware of research that states it increases glycogen synthesis, however this is rat data so take it with a grain of salt.
The book "Antioxidants in Sport Nutrition" copyright 2015, Chapter 9 - Acute and Chronic Effects of Antioxidant Supplementation on Exercise Performance in "Antioxidants in Sport Nutrition" goes into the acute and chronic effects of antioxidants on exercise performance and goes into the both the negative and positive outcomes seen in research.
Here is a quick excerpt of the conclusion, "While not all studies have found positive results on exercise performance or adaptations, many investigations have demonstrated that antioxidant supplementation, particularly when combined as a ‘cocktail’, can have an ergogenic effect on both high intensity endurance and resistance exercise performance."
I'm looking foward to what they have in store. Exciting times!Very interesting discussion. My wish- please keep bsr around as it currently stands. Great product and will be part of my rotation going forward.
Fair call on the not so cut and dry comment, I really should have put the word "potentially" expect. Have any of those beneficial effects been shown in healthy humans? or has this all been in obese, insulin insensitive type 2 diabetics? You are right that there hasn't really been any direct studies on healthy, resistance trained individuals to the best of my knowledge.If you are deriving all those effects by chronic supplementation of Na-R-ALA due to it being a potent antioxidant, I think you need to update your research on antioxidants and their role in exercise physiology. It's not so cut and dry and there is a balance that can be used to increase aerobic and anaerobic capacity.
Furthermore, the effects of Na-R-ALA cannot be constrained to one factor. In-vitro, yes it has been shown to be a potent anti-oxdiant, however in-vivo we are seeing a much more diverse picture. Studies have shown supplementation may stimulate glutathione synthesis, enhancing insulin signaling(which we all know how anabolic insulin is), and modulate the activity of other cell-signaling molecules and transcription factors(including translocation of GLUT receptors). This is far more complex and significant then just reducing it to its anti-oxidant properties, and then forming a conclusion based on just one aspect.
Furthermore, I do not think there is a longitudinal study on healthy adults on Na-R-ALA to show whether those things take place. I could be wrong, and I would be happy to see that research.I am aware of research that states it increases glycogen synthesis, however this is rat data so take it with a grain of salt.
The book "Antioxidants in Sport Nutrition" copyright 2015, Chapter 9 - Acute and Chronic Effects of Antioxidant Supplementation on Exercise Performance in "Antioxidants in Sport Nutrition" goes into the acute and chronic effects of antioxidants on exercise performance and goes into the both the negative and positive outcomes seen in research.
Here is a quick excerpt of the conclusion, "While not all studies have found positive results on exercise performance or adaptations, many investigations have demonstrated that antioxidant supplementation, particularly when combined as a ‘cocktail’, can have an ergogenic effect on both high intensity endurance and resistance exercise performance."
Fair call on the not so cut and dry comment, I really should have put the word "potentially" expect. Have any of those beneficial effects been shown in healthy humans? or has this all been in obese, insulin insensitive type 2 diabetics? You are right that there hasn't really been any direct studies on healthy, resistance trained individuals to the best of my knowledge.
I clearly stated in my post that these potential effects relate to insulin sensitive, healthy people. Ie most decent bodybuilders/athletes. The glycogen synthesis reducing effects have been demonstrated in this study http://jn.nutrition.org/content/132/10/3001.full which tests ala in the presence of insulin in insulin sensitive rat muscle.
When will be able to see "blush"Yes...in fact the team got a preview of the new TR1UMPH labels yesterday - WOW!
Good things come to those who wait or some sh*t like thatWhen will be able to see "blush"
Oh ye of little faith...worry not.So difficult to find Triumph anywhere, especially the Black Cherry or Strawberry Banana. I know your supposed to be coming out with a new and improved Triumph, but it can't release soon enough!!! Everytime I take this product my strength goes up a lot! I sure hope your not unknowingly changing it for the worse.
Thanks man!Sneak peak on stack3d has me ready for Re1gn. New packaging looks very nice
Yep, you are wrongSupplement facts label depth seems short? Is gonna be wide? Again we can't see all of it just a tiny glimpse of that. So I could be wrong.
Very well dosed preworkout with plenty of ingredientsSupplement facts label depth seems short? Is gonna be wide? Again we can't see all of it just a tiny glimpse of that. So I could be wrong.
How many ingredients?Very well dosed preworkout with plenty of ingredients
Not questioning that at all. no doubt this will be an awesome pre!Very well dosed preworkout with plenty of ingredients
Don't overthink things like the size of the ingredient panel. You're not looking at a finalized label.Not questioning that at all. no doubt this will be an awesome pre!
More wondering if the lay out of the supplement fact is different then it used to be. Which is not an issue at all more just an observation that I could literally care less if true.
No BApleaseee no beta alanine please if it does then oh well..
I can't handle them tingle gainz
Hey, this is OL. We don't use random stuff :sgrin:pleaseee no beta alanine please if it does then oh well..
I can't handle them tingle gainz
Well in fairness the innovative stuff you & the rest of the R&D team pull out of your butts may seem random to other supplement companiesHey, this is OL. We don't use random stuff :sgrin:
You bet your ass they will!Will other new releases have product design similar to Re1gn.
Have you got a stacking guide, I think it be a good idea to add to the list. Like when to take each product, for newbies - depending on goals etcYou bet your ass they will!
I'll need someone to expand the day to 26hrs lolHave you got a stacking guide, I think it be a good idea to add to the list. Like when to take each product, for newbies - depending on goals etc
can you guys design a product that can give me wingz like redbull ?I'll need someone to expand the day to 26hrs lol
Stacking involves so many permutations that a guide gets difficult because everyone has different goals and budgets.
Message a rep for stacking advice and we'll design something for your specific needs.
This made ma laugh but damn...how true!Well in fairness the innovative stuff you & the rest of the R&D team pull out of your butts may seem random to other supplement companies
You don't need a supp for that. Heavy lat pulls, pull-ups, and rows will give you wingz. Next question.can you guys design a product that can give me wingz like redbull ?
Who would have thought that something that effective would come out of xtyler's butt? :lol:Well in fairness the innovative stuff you & the rest of the R&D team pull out of your butts may seem random to other supplement companies
Is that why people say the product pills smell funny?!Who would have thought that something that effective would come out of xtyler's butt? :lol:
This man has been very helpful!! I'm learning and can be a pain in the butt with questions lolYou don't need a supp for that. Heavy lat pulls, pull-ups, and rows will give you wingz. Next question.
Hey, I'm the goose that lays the golden eggs :1244:Who would have thought that something that effective would come out of xtyler's butt? :lol:
OL has never let you guys down in the past. No plans to start now. First we Conqu3red. Now we Re1gn. You guys will love it:head:I used my last sample of Conqu3r yesterday that I had been saving because my tub ran out awhile back. To say Re1gn has a lot to live up to is an understatement. Definitely looking forward to seeing how it stacks up.
I tested the new stim in Reign. I was blown away. I think everyone will be very pleasedI used my last sample of Conqu3r yesterday that I had been saving because my tub ran out awhile back. To say Re1gn has a lot to live up to is an understatement. Definitely looking forward to seeing how it stacks up.
Don't forget the new epic and strenght unleashed please!Still just waiting on that new Tr1umph.
Can't wait for epicDon't forget the new epic and strenght unleashed please!
I don't believe you. You'll have to send me some to prove it.I tested the new stim in Reign. I was blown away. I think everyone will be very pleased
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