kbayne
Legend
Are you dosing this prior to every meal?
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Are you dosing this prior to every meal?
banjobounce
Active member
It is dosed with 1st and second meal. Salads that I top with salsa (lycopene). 3rd meal is 2-3hrs later and is just a whey isolate shake. ~1.5-2 hrs later I take my SL, Carnitine, and ara. (pretty sure insulin is low enough at this point... correct me if I'm wrong.). I will also dose the enzymes with my last meal ~6 hrs after the ara dose. Any input is appreciated.
kbayne
Legend
You'll be fine with your set up.
kbayne
Legend
50 workout days on, 50 off.
Woody
Well-known member
To clarify, the 50 days off don't start until after the 50 days on is up. So if you work out 5 days a week, you don't count the other 2 days towards the off days.
kbayne
Legend
Confused.
booneman77
Legend
50 workout days on.
you should only be dosing on workout days so it's not 50 consecutive days (could be 70 calendar days, 50 of which are workouts)
you should only be dosing on workout days so it's not 50 consecutive days (could be 70 calendar days, 50 of which are workouts)
Woody
Well-known member
I just know there's someone that's gonna try to count the days they don't dose as "days off" and start another cycle after 2 weeks
. Maybe my explanation wasn't the best but glad you knew what I meant.
mmorso
Well-known member
I just know there's someone that's gonna try to count the days they don't dose as "days off" and start another cycle after 2 weeks. Maybe my explanation wasn't the best but glad you knew what I meant.
Lol. So I have to wait 50 days after my last dose... Btw, what would happen if you didn't wait 50 days? Would the inflammation from the ArA extend beyond skeletal muscle tissue? What is the concern?
Jiigzz
Legend
You will literally explode
Jiigzz
Legend
Nothing, most likely. But the safety data extends to 50 days at the dosages we have outlined on the bottle. We don't recommend longer because of this
The_Old_Guy
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New Examine article on ArA:
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booneman77
Legend
I've run 4-5 cycles I believe and yes, with the break you will be fine. This allows the levels to return to normal.
Zariph
Active member
awesome, thx
Jiigzz
Legend
A good read. Placebo showed no increase in LBM? Id say poor programming, lol.
Also mindful that statistically significant and magnitude of improvement are two vastly different things. Statisitcally significant does not imply a huge improvement.
Good results for Ara overall, but just a few observations
georgetown
Active member
Dosing like this ok?
1.5-2 hrs before gym: pre workout meal
40-60 mins before gym: ARA GMS L-carnitine
Also no problems with BCAAs or HMB?
1.5-2 hrs before gym: pre workout meal
40-60 mins before gym: ARA GMS L-carnitine
Also no problems with BCAAs or HMB?
banjobounce
Active member
Ok.... gonna try to get this all in one list:
Cayenne, Cumin, Garlic, Onion, Any other spices that may inhibit Cox-2. Yay or nay? (will be dosing ~4 hrs away from ara, but I eat A LOT of cumin [3-4grams with veggies].
CLA: will it interfere if dosed away from ara? (Please don't flame. It was given to me)
Melatonin, Chamomile, Lemon Balm, etc: same question.
Fennel, Milk Thistle, Fenugreek: Same question.
Adaptogens (Ash, Ginseng): same
The whey that I use (Ultimate nutrition iso sensation) has a small amount of Pinitol and Ala. Once again dosing 2-5 hrs apart from ara dosage.
Finally, Evomuse Defuse and Brite. Any stacking complications?
sorry for such a long post.
Cayenne, Cumin, Garlic, Onion, Any other spices that may inhibit Cox-2. Yay or nay? (will be dosing ~4 hrs away from ara, but I eat A LOT of cumin [3-4grams with veggies].
CLA: will it interfere if dosed away from ara? (Please don't flame. It was given to me)
Melatonin, Chamomile, Lemon Balm, etc: same question.
Fennel, Milk Thistle, Fenugreek: Same question.
Adaptogens (Ash, Ginseng): same
The whey that I use (Ultimate nutrition iso sensation) has a small amount of Pinitol and Ala. Once again dosing 2-5 hrs apart from ara dosage.
Finally, Evomuse Defuse and Brite. Any stacking complications?
sorry for such a long post.
booneman77
Legend
I would dos your ara after your warmups since you're not going to be anywhere near a fasted state just 30-60 min after eating.
bcaa's/hmb are good to go
georgetown
Active member
Will it kick in during the workout? I want to feel the effects otherwise I can skip the pre workout meal and eat more later
kbayne
Legend
It works via saturation.
You may notice extra pump at first, but nothing too serious.
booneman77
Legend
There's really no "feel" to ara. After a few weeks you may notice better pumps but other than that there's nothing to feel
warbird01
Well-known member
When the standard dosing was 1-1-1-1, I used to sometimes take 2-3 pre workout and I definitely noticed a difference. Better pumps.
Jiigzz
Legend
The label is ambiguous. Does that mean 350mg of the oil per cap? Or 350mg of Ara Powder, yielding 5% of the active (meaning 17.5mg of Ara per cap).
Considering they can't even spell Arachidonic acid (on the back label
, i'd be skeptical that it is what you think it is.
Jiigzz
Legend
Personly, id ask them to clarify if that is 350mg of active (doubtful as it needs to be some form of carrier - kind of like an extract)
Audioph1x
Well-known member
It's in caps, right? It's not worth ****. It's powder which means you need a way higher dose. Skip it.
Jiigzz
Legend
Ah yeah, if its a cap, itl be a powder
georgetown
Active member
Is any type of carnitine good enough as an emulsifier? I have unopened ALCAR powder but also an opened bottle of carnimax containing Propionyl L-Canitine HCL that I was wondering if I could use that too?
Jiigzz
Legend
warpyfunch
Member
4 hours is plenty. Alternatively you can take it after your first heavy set of a compound lift at the start of your workout. Has worked great for me through many cycles.
warbird01
Well-known member
This is my favorite dosing scheme. Who the hell ever has an empty stomach?!
georgetown
Active member
Is it an ok protocol to take ARA after first heavy set with carnitine then consume carbs shortly after with BCAAs? Will the carbs consumed after ARA be negative or they ok?
warpyfunch
Member
Do you mean carbs intra workout or post workout?
The idea behind taking ArA on empty stomach or at the start of a workout is all about preventing it from simply being stored as fat, thus wasting it's benefits in muscle tissue. Once you're in workout mode, fat storage is significantly down regulated. By the time you consume post workout carbs, the ArA should already be where it needs to be, so no concern. I personally wouldn't use intra workout carbs, but I doubt that would cause the ArA to be stored as fat either.
georgetown
Active member
im talking about intra workout carbs and im leaning towards staying away while using ara
Rand0m
Member
Results? Thinking of trying out ArA on my next gaining phase. A bit pricey though if you factor in Gms/alcar.
Jiigzz
Legend
The latter 2 aren't necessary, they are just useful adjuncts. It can get pricey, but unfortunately it is the cheapest it is able to be. It costs us a little bit to produce, but the results can, and often do speak for themselves.
You can optimise your results by also limiting fish oil consumption and being more cognizant of dosing without the need for the other two things.
georgetown
Active member
Probably overthinking but is it detrimental to eat peanut butter too close to ara dose? The pb has 320 mg omega-3 per serving.
booneman77
Legend
Overthinking. Obviously for the "perfect" use, wait, but honestly it'll make so little difference it's not worth the thought
warbird01
Well-known member
10 years ago people were making a big stink about seperating all their omega-3s from their ArA dose but these days people seem to think it's ok, just don't go crazy.
The_Old_Guy
Well-known member
dynamo
Banned
I would still say that separating the dosing of the two is recommended, just unnecessary to split them hours and hours apart.
stevopritch
New member
hi guys im going to be ordering soon and just want to ask this to make sure its ok
finish work 6am last time eaten 2am take x gels, alphamax xt, LCLT, GMS and SL (what can i take the last two with, a no carb whey?)
during workout use bsn no xplode 3.0
then after workout i go sleep so when would i take my second lot of alphamax, or do i take alpha max after workout then the second lot after i wake up?
there are days i finish work then go sleep straight away then i wake up and go gym so im guessing i just move the alphamax
finish work 6am last time eaten 2am take x gels, alphamax xt, LCLT, GMS and SL (what can i take the last two with, a no carb whey?)
during workout use bsn no xplode 3.0
then after workout i go sleep so when would i take my second lot of alphamax, or do i take alpha max after workout then the second lot after i wake up?
there are days i finish work then go sleep straight away then i wake up and go gym so im guessing i just move the alphamax
jathan_howe
Active member
If you sleep right after your workout, just consider your preworkout dose to double as your pre-bed dose. It'd be pointless to do your second dose so close to the first. Take the other when you wake up