For a first cycle Test at 500mg a week for 10-12 weeks is pretty standard, but why do most go with Test E? Why pick E over C? Curious cuz I might be able to get a hold of only some Test C.
you mean with cyp your only pinning 200mg a week?cyp is usually 200mg/ml and is usually more expensive
cyp is usually dosed at 200mg/ml where enan is usually dosed at 250mg/ml. its not a hard concept to graspyou mean with cyp your only pinning 200mg a week?
Ditto. I find they are usually the same price, but with testosterone c, the ester is heavier. So test e, just cause you get a little more bang per buck.Test E is stronger, and cheaper. Very good results w Test E. My favorite
Nice avatar O----DMy buddy has been around AAS for years and swears shots of Cyp are painless while shots of Test E are far more painful ml to ml.
Whether or not that's due to increased concentration per ml or not... who
knows.
Is prop ok to run for a first injectable cycle?cyp or enant?
prop
its good and bad. good in that since the ester is shorter if things go sour (ie gyno) or other things happen you can clip the cycle short and it ends fast, unlike cyp or enan. the bad part is you are pinning every other day, so 7x in 2 weeks instead of 4x. so much more of a pain in the butt for a first timeIs prop ok to run for a first injectable cycle?
forsure, how long is an average prop cycle, like 8-10 weeks, or still 10-12 weeks like with e and c.its good and bad. good in that since the ester is shorter if things go sour (ie gyno) or other things happen you can clip the cycle short and it ends fast, unlike cyp or enan. the bad part is you are pinning every other day, so 7x in 2 weeks instead of 4x. so much more of a pain in the butt for a first time
8 weeks is perfect for a prop cycle. it takes maybe a week to kick-in instead of waiting 4-5-6 weeks for enan or cyp to kick-inprobably 10-12 still. given that prop is usually more expensive, there really isnt a big plus to it, other than possibly to use it as a front load or kickstart for test e/c. so you could pin higher doses of it while starting the test e, and by week 3 or 4 discontinue the prop.
4sure, I was just reading through your log, your cycle looks fun.8 weeks is perfect for a prop cycle. it takes maybe a week to kick-in instead of waiting 4-5-6 weeks for enan or cyp to kick-in
exactly , but for me its all good cause I like to pin myself ed in fact I love to do it:lol5:its good and bad. good in that since the ester is shorter if things go sour (ie gyno) or other things happen you can clip the cycle short and it ends fast, unlike cyp or enan. the bad part is you are pinning every other day, so 7x in 2 weeks instead of 4x. so much more of a pain in the butt for a first time
its definitely been a ride. im def bumping the doses next time though4sure, I was just reading through your log, your cycle looks fun.
:crackhead: LOLexactly , but for me its all good cause I like to pin myself ed in fact I love to do it:lol5:
Why do you say this?There is only one carbon molecule difference between the two...you wont even be able to tell the difference between them, so go with whatever is cheaper....and besides, if its coming from a UG, its probably enanthate anyhow.
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Thats actually the opposite. I'd say his source just doesnt brew them the same. The biggest issue with cyp is that its harder to suspend in your brew (which is why you will see it brewed at 200mg/ml vs 250mg/ml like eth). It also crashes easier both in storage and potentially in depot. Having said that I'd still buy whatever is cheaper.My buddy has been around AAS for years and swears shots of Cyp are painless while shots of Test E are far more painful ml to ml.
Whether or not that's due to increased concentration per ml or not... who knows.
yeah, but the enan/cyp also is still operating for 2-3 weeks after you stop injections Still an 8 week prop should be good enough for some nice gains, and not have to worry about hcg8 weeks is perfect for a prop cycle. it takes maybe a week to kick-in instead of waiting 4-5-6 weeks for enan or cyp to kick-in
Might I ask why?I prefer prop.. The one down side for is for sure the price mg:mg with e/c, but i don't mind spending the extra.
your avy just gave me a testosterone surge, thanks broMight I ask why?
If an AI is run throughout either cycle (Test E/C or Prop) is there much difference?
Just curious.
cyp costs more so UG just labels E as cyp to make more money and they know most can't tell the difference anyhow!Why do you say this?
Haha! Glad I could help. Do you mean your Prop is 50mg/ml and you use 2 ml per injection?I use human grade prop 100mg dosed on 2ml and no pain at all, and after all aren't we bodybuilders , f**k pin pain
your avy just gave me a testosterone surge, thanks bro
nothing better on a pct, lolHaha! Glad I could help. Do you mean your Prop is 50mg/ml and you use 2 ml per injection?
I could see why that would be painless as it's a mild concentration compared to our 100mg/ml standard.
I like the less bloat, and the fact that i don't need to run an AI(or very, low dose). I like the shorter lead/clear time.. Also for some reason i don't break out AT ALL on prop, yet on Ent, every time i break out like crazy, which is a BIG plus for me for prop. Maybe the hormonal swings? It just treats me better.Might I ask why?
If an AI is run throughout either cycle (Test E/C or Prop) is there much difference?
Just curious.
Damn! You guys have me reconsidering my first run now.I like the less bloat, and the fact that i don't need to run an AI(or very, low dose). I like the shorter lead/clear time.. Also for some reason i don't break out AT ALL on prop, yet on Ent, every time i break out like crazy, which is a BIG plus for me for prop. Maybe the hormonal swings? It just treats me better.
I guess we all have our preference
Yea im reconsidering myself now, prop sounds good.Damn! You guys have me reconsidering my first run now.
Are the gains from Prop just as easy to maintain since they come faster and in a short period of time?
Say a 8 week Prop run vs. a 12 week Test E run?
Thanks.
its his first cycle, i would do only prop and maybe some oral to kick inprop's like heaven...throw tren in the mix and you got yourself a serious cycle
what kind of orals you guys like to kickstart with, you ever use designer stuff?its his first cycle, i would do only prop and maybe some oral to kick in
yeah,havoc would be a good choice cause it could also help with some estrogen control but for me the best thing to stack with test its inject masteronwhat kind of orals you guys like to kickstart with, you ever use designer stuff?
My bad...didn't read it thoroughly..i agree...tren should be held off until you have a few cycles under your belt...the stuff can be kinda harsh if your not ready for it...agree though..prop only is a solid first runits his first cycle, i would do only prop and maybe some oral to kick in
Interesting statement about Tren "if you're not ready for it". Ive never tried it..is it something that your body sort of "toughens up" for if you've already done lots of Test?My bad...didn't read it thoroughly..i agree...tren should be held off until you have a few cycles under your belt...the stuff can be kinda harsh if your not ready for it...agree though..prop only is a solid first run
Interesting statement about Tren "if you're not ready for it". Ive never tried it..is it something that your body sort of "toughens up" for if you've already done lots of Test?
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