Guys, I can't control how USP Labs chose to market a product 10 or 15 years ago.
USP Labs was known for great over the top marketing - I don't do that.
Regardless though, USP Labs had a ton of positive feedback on it.
But here's the thing - this is not a USP Labs product, it will be an SNS product.
I'm not over hyping this, I'm barely even talking about it.
I'm not going to tell anyone how much they will or won't gain off of it because I've stated repeatedly that:
- Most people seemed to really like it at regular dosing.
- Most people seemed to love it at higher dosing.
- Some people definitely seemed to be hyper responders.
And also,
@Hyde said it perfectly above that how much strength a person gains off anything may depend a lot on what level they are already at. Him for example, he's a competitive powerlifter. Is he going to gain even 30 lbs. on his bench? Of course not because as he said, he uses AAS and he's so strong and maxed out that it took him a year to gain 5 lbs. on his. If something natural were to put 5 lbs. on his, would that be impressive? Absolutely. But if someone is new to lifting and they aren't as strong anyway, are much better percentage gains possible? Of course.
I'm glad that people like
@thescience are excited about it, and he obviously did well off of it, which is why he's excited about it. He's sharing his feedback on his results and its something he's excited about. I'm happy for him that he's excited and that we're going to be bringing back a product/ingredient that he really likes.
But you don't hear me making a single claim about this product and how much strength anyone will or won't gain off of it.
I feel confident based on feedback from both prior products that used this ingredient that most people will see strength gains from it. How much? As with anything, that will depend on your diet, training, and where your strength levels are now.
I'm excited to try it myself. Do I expect to gain that much on my bench? Heck no.
- Reason #1 - I don't max to begin with - so for me, I'll be super happy if I see increases on my working sets can can increase weight and reps on those.
- Reason #2 - With strength level now, if I put 90 lbs. on my bench, my shoulders would probably fall off, cuss me out, and hit me upside the head with a weight.