I'm just going to be completely honest with you and tell you that if it doesn't have any taste, its not VASO6.
VASO6 I would consider to be more brown than red.
VASO6 is also one of the strongest tasting ingredients that there is. The taste is so strong that it makes flavoring products with it in there very challenging. That is one of the reasons that some brands choose not to use it because if they're going for the 'as good as Kool Aid' type flavor, you simply can't achieve that having VASO6 in there. That's one of the challenges with the updated Super Swole has been to get it to taste good.
You're welcome to pm me the brand if you'd like to discuss. I just don't want toto come off as putting anyone down publicly.
I find this interesting as all of my SNS Vaso 6 pills where coated in red dusting. As if a pill leaked some powder. But it was most definitely red.
I'm not sure what you're implying or questioning me on?
My reply to him was mainly about the taste. In that VASO6 has a very strong taste and that it is one of the hardest to flavor ingredients on the market. Right now for example, I'm on round 3 of the revised Super Swole formula samples and we cannot get the tastes right on it bc of the VASO6 content. It's difficult to flavor to the point where we've been considering replacing the VASO6 in Super Swole with something else so that we can hurry up and get the product back available.
As for the color, my only comment was - 'VASO6 I would consider to be more brown than red.'
If he or you considers it to be more red than brown, that's okay. My words were 'I consider it to be more brown than red' and also before posting this reply, I checked the VASO6 COA from the supplier just to see how they have it listed and they list it as brown as well with no mention of red on the one I just looked at. I don't see the color aspect of it being a big deal bc people's perceptions of color can vary.
But the taste is a big deal - VASO6 has a very strong taste.
As for the SNS VASO6 capsules, I would describe them as having a brownish tint to them (and if you want to describe it as a reddish tint, that's okay too haha). But no, its not from where a capsule came open. It's from where on the last batch, we switched from regular white gelatin capsules to white veggie caps and veggie caps stain worse than gelatin capsules do. Here's a walk through on that:
- Raw materials are mixed in a mixer and then encapsulated by machinery.
- During this process, the powder gets on the outside of the capsules as well.
- Some powder is sticky and sticks to the capsules; some doesn't.
- Some has color and stains the capsules; some doesn't.
- The finished capsules are then ran through the polisher which cleans the capsules. This is sometimes done immediately or sometimes may be done a few minutes to hours later or even days later; it just depends on the cm and their production schedule.
- VASO6, whether we want to call it red or brown, has a very dark color and is a sticky material (not super sticky but enough to stick to capsules).
- The texture of a gelatin capsule is shiny and slick and smooth.
- Veggie capsules are made from vegetable cellulose and on a microscopic level they aren't as smooth on the surface as gelatin capsules.
- A good analogy would be that gelatin capsules are like having a glass desk. You spill something, you just wipe it up and its gone. A veggie capsule would be like having a wood desk. You spill something, you can wipe it up but some of it may be down in the fine texture of the wood.
- So, that leads us to the last run of VASO6 capsules - where we switched from white gelatin capsules to white veggie capsules in an effort to make people happy.
- So, what happens is that the VASO6 is capsulated and some gets on the outside of the capsule. Being a veggie capsule, it was much more sticky and porous and the brown coloration stained the capsules themselves.
- Lesson learned. In the future we and the cm know that it has to be ran through the polisher right away if we use white veggie capsules &/or we may just use clear veggie caps instead of white.
^^^ The above explanation applies to much more than just VASO6. That is why you see many colored ingredients in clear capsules, especially when the brand uses Veggie capsules. A great example of this is Curcumin, which has a yellowish color. It will stain white capsules terribly, especially white Veggie capsules. That's why most highly standardized Curcumin capsules you see are in clear capsules. That happened with Liver Assist XT. We had it for years in regular white and red gelatin caps with no issues. We changed it over to Veggie caps and the first batch was stained yellow as could be. After that, we changed to clear capsules to avoid the issue on future runs.