I kind of like Recomp 20Winner right here. I need this in my life now
I kind of like Recomp 20Winner right here. I need this in my life now
I'm sorry to hear that but there's also a part of this that doesn't make sense. Candy Corn was a limited edition flavor and there were only 2 batches run and they were ran by the same place - both batches tasted literally identical.I think Focus XT needs flavored by a new flavoring house. Last few tubs I’ve tried have not been good. They all have the same underlying funk that is off putting. rocket pop, candy corn, green apple.
I probably have it. Not sure what the OG formula was though.I want the OG formula one. The smell alone will bring back nostalgia haha
Yes! Would buy that immediately
They used a prop blend in theirs and we wouldn't; so to make it maximum effectiveness, I'm thinking 2800 mg. Symplocos and 200 to 300 mg. Cocoabuteral? (as Cocoabuterol contains the other 2 ingredients that are in USP's).Winner right here. I need this in my life now
I'm not sure if this would be an SNS or CEL project. At first, I was leaning towards a CEL one, but I might actually make it an SNS one because we have 3 natural anabolic formulas already planned for CELOut of the three I mentioned in the other thread (C20 XT, Comp20 XT, Compounded20 XT), I personally like Comp20 XT. Kind of a borrowing from Compound 20 without fully stealing the name, but with the familiar XT of an SNS product.
I'd venture to say many of their products were spiked. Respectfully, there was probably more than DMAA in the original Jack3d. I can speak from comparative experiences lolIn theory, copying old USP Labs and PES products seems like a winner but as said, we don't really know what was in there.
Weren't OG batches of USP Labs Versa-1 spiked with Mechabol? lol
Tomorrow for sure. Sorry for the delay. It's here; its just been a logistics with some retailers type of thing.Anacyclus XT please!
The rest just icing on the cake!
I like PES a lot now, but they did have a lot of speculation back then bc of the rumored association with USP Labs. I honestly have no idea what the truth is on any of that.In theory, copying old USP Labs and PES products seems like a winner but as said, we don't really know what was in there.
Weren't OG batches of USP Labs Versa-1 spiked with Mechabol? lol
it tastes and smells like hay that’s been stored in a barn. that’s the best way i can describe it. lol. it’s not good and it’s been in all 3 that i mentioned. it has to be a raw that’s not getting masked very well. i mean, if it’s really that big of a seller, no need to mess with it. i’ve tried and tried to use this product but i can’t get through a whole tub. the instant i cracked open the apple tonight, barnyard hay smell. everyone is different, but i feel like the flavor is holding fxt back. i’ll mess with the water amounts but i doubt it’s going to matter when i can smell it in the powder.I'm sorry to hear that but there's also a part of this that doesn't make sense. Candy Corn was a limited edition flavor and there were only 2 batches run and they were ran by the same place - both batches tasted literally identical.
So whatever you mean by the words underlying funk - you're using it to describe different flavors made at different places.
Most people really like the flavor of Focus XT and its by far our best selling powdered product to females (and females are by far the hardest to please customer base when it comes to flavors).
I would encourage you to try different water levels because even a 2 ounce difference can give it a completely different taste.
We did recently with the very last batch of some of the flavors switch to a new contract manufacturers for all of our powdered products because our old cm is so backed up due to Covid that the production lead times were insane. As part of that, we had to try to match the flavor systems as closely as possible. When things like that happen, you may see slight variances from batch to batch while we're trying to tweak things based on feedback.
For example, the Rocket Pop from the previous batch tasted more of the cherry where this recent batch I tasted more of the lime. Which one is best? Depends on what your favorite part of the Rocket Pop Popsicle is haha.
Another example, Green Apple Abduction - the previous batches were more like a candy apple jolly rancher. The current batch is more like an actual green apple flavor. We've had people hate the new batch bc they liked the old better; but we've had a lot of feedback that the new batch is better - because it really comes down to which of the flavors the person likes better.
No one hates changes like this more than me (bc I have to listen to ppl complain about it either way) and because we wind up out of stock during the process and I lose money. But at a certain point, its get the product back out, see what people think, and make tweaks from there.
I could give the standard BS line that some companies do, but I prefer to just be honest about the struggles that we go through on this end sometimes. This is a good example that normally wouldn't get seen about how Covid has f'd things up in the industry in so many different ways (having to change cm's for flavored powders due to delays).
We do the best we can do and will continue to. We actually have 3 new flavors of that lined up to release in the coming few months.
I hope all of that makes sense.
Don't post it publicly, but pm me what retailer you bought it from.it tastes and smells like hay that’s been stored in a barn. that’s the best way i can describe it. lol. it’s not good and it’s been in all 3 that i mentioned. it has to be a raw that’s not getting masked very well. i mean, if it’s really that big of a seller, no need to mess with it. i’ve tried and tried to use this product but i can’t get through a whole tub. the instant i cracked open the apple tonight, barnyard hay smell. everyone is different, but i feel like the flavor is holding fxt back. i’ll mess with the water amounts but i doubt it’s going to matter when i can smell it in the powder.
I think so, especially with the amount of females that like it.I feel like the flavor profile can have pretty wild perceived variances. For example, in the last prototype runs of Juice Daddy before switching to a new manufacturer the samples we received were viewed totally different. I thought they tasted pretty good whereas Bostin literally wanted to vomit from it. I'd venture to suspect that this is more of an outlier occurrence as opposed to the norm for FXT.
That's a blast from the past, last time I remember that being used was 2006 old custom nutrition warehouse cnw.com was selling a 10% extract.What about Avena Sativa?
True. The retailer's storage situation could be a big factor in this as well. Almost forgot one of the most important factors. Cold water. I ice all of my preworkouts and powders when I drink it. Anything shy of icy can significantly effect it.I think so, especially with the amount of females that like it.
Plus, people do have different sensitivities and perceptions to smells. It would make more sense if it was say 3 flavors from the same CM but Candy Corn was made in a different place than any of the other flavors. So that leads me to think it could be a sensitivity to a certain smell possibly in the base, or something with the storage conditions from where he bought it (which needs to be a pm convo, not a thread one bc I don't want to speak badly about any retailers).
Working on it. Its in the que. Not sure where it will fall time wise because of all the new releases in process, but it'll be available as soon as we canOr maybe that Horny Goat Weed!!!
This is sadly very true... and painfully annoying- Black Magic (Pink Magic) - not sure if you can put "black" or "white" on a label anymore though... srs
Focus XT is one of the few products that I like as much at room temperature as I do cold. That's where this really had me baffled as its a product we've always gotten so many compliments on taste wise.True. The retailer's storage situation could be a big factor in this as well. Almost forgot one of the most important factors. Cold water. I ice all of my preworkouts and powders when I drink it. Anything shy of icy can significantly effect it.
I haven't been asked for it or heard it mentioned in a long time. If enough people want it, I'm up for it.What about Avena Sativa?
To me, it tastes just like Candy Corn. The only weird part is that Candy Corn is both a taste and a texture so its a bit interesting at first getting used to the taste without the texture if that makes sense.I was curious about that candy corn flavor. I actually like the real thing haha
LipoBurn (EpiBurn)The more I think on it the more I like the idea of a USP Labs "corrected clones" series that is a transparent version of some their classic products... but without the "suspected spiking" (emphasis on suspect as I do not want to make false assertions). It's probably the nostalgia in me but it is very appealing. Not sure if XT is mandatory as a component but if not maybe something like:
- Recomp 20 (Compound 20)
- Revise (Recreate)
- Ignit3 (Jack3d)
- Black Magic (Pink Magic) - not sure if you can put "black" or "white" on a label anymore though... srs
Haha I think the texture is part of the allure. I tried clicking it on the SNS site but I think it’s OOSTo me, it tastes just like Candy Corn. The only weird part is that Candy Corn is both a taste and a texture so its a bit interesting at first getting used to the taste without the texture if that makes sense.
It was a limited edition flavor. We may try to bring it back this fall, but not 100% sure. Since we don't work with the place that did that flavor for us, it just depends on if we can get the flavor right somewhere else.Haha I think the texture is part of the allure. I tried clicking it on the SNS site but I think it’s OOS
I like that name but it may be taken I think.LipoBurn (EpiBurn)
Already got you coveredI didn't read all the posts so sorry if it has already been mentioned. I would be happy if you could add HICA in your product line. PES used to have it but they discontinued and it's difficult to find it properly dosed or as stand alone product.
That’s why this would be the better version haha. Sucks but a lot of good names are taken. Luckily I give mine quirky ones XDI like that name but it may be taken I think.
And honestly EpiBurn isn't one I'd try to copy bc the ingredient panel doesn't make sense with the feedback.
According to the label, 1 capsule of EpiBurn should have been 100 mg caffeine + a 213 mg prop blend of Ashwagandha, Olive Leaf, Yohimbe, Coleus, and Higenamine (labeled as Nelumbo Nucifera).
Thank you. I agree, I like that one myself.Gonna throw in a vote for the Recomp20. Name is spot on
The problem with copying EpiBurn and doing it the way it 'should be' done is that if it were done like the label says, it actually wouldn't be that good of a product. So in this case, we might want to pass on that. Because really, Thermagize XT is better than what the EpiBurn formula is supposed to be by a longshot.That’s why this would be the better version haha. Sucks but a lot of good names are taken. Luckily I give mine quirky ones XD
Yeah I meant more in the context of recreating the “theme” and not so much the product content itself. Just ignore me I’m just throwing stuff out in volume now hahahaThe problem with copying EpiBurn and doing it the way it 'should be' done is that if it were done like the label says, it actually wouldn't be that good of a product. So in this case, we might want to pass on that. Because really, Thermagize XT is better than what the EpiBurn formula is supposed to be by a longshot.
Hey, I appreciate the ideas. I just wanted to clarify and make sure we were on the same page on that one hahaYeah I meant more in the context of recreating the “theme” and not so much the product content itself. Just ignore me I’m just throwing stuff out in volume now hahaha
I would buy.What about some Hordenine to stack with PEA-500 XT. Or add some to the PEA-500XT?
Ignit3 is already an Olympus Labs product.The more I think on it the more I like the idea of a USP Labs "corrected clones" series that is a transparent version of some their classic products... but without the "suspected spiking" (emphasis on suspect as I do not want to make false assertions). It's probably the nostalgia in me but it is very appealing. Not sure if XT is mandatory as a component but if not maybe something like:
- Recomp 20 (Compound 20)
- Revise (Recreate)
- Ignit3 (Jack3d)
- Black Magic (Pink Magic) - not sure if you can put "black" or "white" on a label anymore though... srs
Hoping this is more than just HICA.Already got you covered
HICA XT is already in the lineup. I'm not sure where yet because there are so many new releases coming up, but it'll be in the works.
What we really need to do is figure out a way to clone me so I can get the label text and write ups done for these things quicker haha
It is a pretty simple HICA type supplement because I've been asked by so many people to do a straight HICA supplement.Hoping this is more than just HICA.
Something more like what Pro Supplements used to carry, it was HMB, HICA, and leucine if I remember. Would definitely buy. Or sub for what Redcon1 MOAB has in it right now, which is HMB, HICA, epi.
For me, recovery is the most important aspect when Im choosing a new supplement to use. So it sounds right up my ally.It is a pretty simple HICA type supplement because I've been asked by so many people to do a straight HICA supplement.
I am considering doing another project or two with it in there though.
I remember that Pro Supps one - and I also remember for whatever reason it was one of the most disgusting things I've ever tried lol. But I have considered doing a formula similar, but only if can make it taste okay haha.
I'd love to hear people's opinions on that - if they would want a high end one like HMB, HICA, Leucine, + more.
What about some Hordenine to stack with PEA-500 XT. Or add some to the PEA-500XT?
Hordenine is already on the FDA advisory list and is banned from Amazon. So its one of those things where even though some people would like it (including myself), I can't risk an FDA issue, especially over something that probably wouldn't sell very well.I would buy.
Thank you. What would you like to see in it if we did it?For me, recovery is the most important aspect when Im choosing a new supplement to use. So it sounds right up my ally.