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swole stack+hgh up vs. turinabol lv from pp

Dan 55

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5'9 210, 21 years old. looking to do a recomp

8 weeks of swole stack or 6 weeks of turinabol? the swole stack is definately a safer option but for price and gains from each i wanted to hear opinions on how much better the turinabol would work.

Also is the 4 week pct that primordial performance suggests from their site enough for 6 weeks of turinabol?
 
I always suggest a SERM. But it is possible to recover with the TRS stack from PP, if you know your body well enough... I recommend a SERM..
 
damn, i would rather not do something that could mess with my natural production like that. What if i took the swole stack+hgh up and replaced the stoked with novedex xt. and ran that for like 8 weeks?
 
5'9 210, 21 years old. looking to do a recomp

8 weeks of swole stack or 6 weeks of turinabol? the swole stack is definately a safer option but for price and gains from each i wanted to hear opinions on how much better the turinabol would work.

Also is the 4 week pct that primordial performance suggests from their site enough for 6 weeks of turinabol?

damn, i would rather not do something that could mess with my natural production like that. What if i took the swole stack+hgh up and replaced the stoked with novedex xt. and ran that for like 8 weeks?



then why did you put it (turinabol) into the equation from the rip if you knew that you wouldn't want to consider taking it? i love AI's products as well as PP's but the strength increase that kicks in during the 2nd week of turinabol, is the truth as well as the recomp, but you also will attain some nice strength gains from the "swole stack" also without the need of spending additional $$$ on pct products, it's your call Dan:bigok:

don't replace the stoked with novedex xt, go with the stoked and get some hgh-pro over the hgh-up and keep it all AI's
 
i just didnt know i would need a serm for turinabol. and i will use the hgh pro instead but i think the novedex will benefit alot more than the stoked
 
then why did you put it (turinabol) into the equation from the rip if you knew that you wouldn't want to consider taking it? i love AI's products as well as PP's but the strength increase that kicks in during the 2nd week of turinabol, is the truth as well as the recomp, but you also will attain some nice strength gains from the "swole stack" also without the need of spending additional $$$ on pct products, it's your call Dan:bigok:

don't replace the stoked with novedex xt, go with the stoked and get some hgh-pro over the hgh-up and keep it all AI's

Gotta say I like the sound of that...
 
then why did you put it (turinabol) into the equation from the rip if you knew that you wouldn't want to consider taking it? i love AI's products as well as PP's but the strength increase that kicks in during the 2nd week of turinabol, is the truth as well as the recomp, but you also will attain some nice strength gains from the "swole stack" also without the need of spending additional $$$ on pct products, it's your call Dan:bigok:

don't replace the stoked with novedex xt, go with the stoked and get some hgh-pro over the hgh-up and keep it all AI's

How were your gains from Turinol?
 
i just didnt know i would need a serm for turinabol. and i will use the hgh pro instead but i think the novedex will benefit alot more than the stoked

Both are very good. Stoked will also help some with estro control plus it is a great antioxidant.
 
i just didnt know i would need a serm for turinabol. and i will use the hgh pro instead but i think the novedex will benefit alot more than the stoked

or try Free Test/HGH-Up- we have plenty of research to back up why this is an awesome stack, plus you don't have to worry about PCT, loss of libido, or the potential for any type of anti-androgenic effects from ATD.....
 
sorry that was very short, ok so 6 weeks of turinabol ramping up to 90mg/day if you can would be awesome!!!!
i just finished a 6 week run from 60mg a day to 90mg the last two weeks
used liver juice along side it
and PCT is HCGenerate sustain alpha lv and testopro with glycobol with carb meals

you will get much much better gains from a PH than an herbal test booster, but the swole stack would be great part of PCT
 
so there you have it Dan, if you decide to go the non-hormonal route whether it be through AI or AN, you're not going to be in need of any additional supps for pct, saving yourself a few dollars, or if you decide to go the ph/ds route yes your going to be in need of additional pct supps and if you decide to go with PP's pct(TRS+TCF-1) you'll bounce back just fine: just as you will if you decide to go with an actual serm, just don't forget your "on cycle" support supps as well. Either route you decide to take, it's going to be a fun ride, Enjoy.

Gains from a ph/ds are always greater as JN230 mentioned, and are a lil more costly$$$$$
 
sorry that was very short, ok so 6 weeks of turinabol ramping up to 90mg/day if you can would be awesome!!!!
i just finished a 6 week run from 60mg a day to 90mg the last two weeks
used liver juice along side it
and PCT is HCGenerate sustain alpha lv and testopro with glycobol with carb meals

you will get much much better gains from a PH than an herbal test booster, but the swole stack would be great part of PCT

Agreed. Turinabol PCT=SA, TCF-1, Testopro
 
OP....Dan, you're my age and I would never suggest a prohormone or hormonal cycle to someone my age. SWOLE stack with HGHpro all the way. I am currently on the Swole Stack and already tried out HGHpro and I HIGHLY recommend them both ESPECIALLY if you stack them. Very underrated and very effective supps.

Again there are those who will disagree with me but at our age...i do not think hormonals are necesarry for amazing gains. Strict diet, hard training, proper rest and natural supplementation is all you need to become a beast at our age.

You're still young....i personally wouldnt touch the stuff. Dont have ANYTHING against PP...I love there non-hormonal products. I just prefer staying natural for now. My .02
 
OP....Dan, you're my age and I would never suggest a prohormone or hormonal cycle to someone my age. SWOLE stack with HGHpro all the way. I am currently on the Swole Stack and already tried out HGHpro and I HIGHLY recommend them both ESPECIALLY if you stack them. Very underrated and very effective supps.

Again there are those who will disagree with me but at our age...i do not think hormonals are necesarry for amazing gains. Strict diet, hard training, proper rest and natural supplementation is all you need to become a beast at our age.

You're still young....i personally wouldnt touch the stuff. Dont have ANYTHING against PP...I love there non-hormonal products. I just prefer staying natural for now. My .02

Agreed 100% still so much natural growth at that age.
 
dont wanna high jack this thread,but i see you should take glycobol with a big carb meal.what if im on a low-moderate carbs diet,for like a cut lets say,would it even be worth running?thanks
 
thanks everyone, i am definately not doing the turinabol, i have pleanty of time in my life to experiment with ph's but not at my age.
 
I would rec the 6 weeks of turinabol for sure.
I wold suggest a PCT support stack like:
sustain alpha
HCGenerate
T-911 (on hand for labido)
 
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