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Swinging Cruise

EasyEJL said:
so just as a question are you two going to (assuming it happens in the next few years) be forward with your potential spouse over anabolic use? (assuming either of you uses them between now and then) ? Are both of you planning on being celibate till married? i'm not sure how a swinging cruise or even her being with 2 guys at once is any worse than her having been with a string of 10 or 12 guys over the span of 4 years at college.
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I will be straight forward with it, but to this point I have found excuses to put off anabolics till I am bigger/stronger etc. Could be something I do indefinitely. But I would be straight about it, thats the way I am. I have had sexual relations with my ex, which from 2 years of dating we had about 4 months of sexually active time. It ended when we wanted it to stop, but had trouble resisting. I made a call, one I had to live with since then. And its been about 2-2 1/2 years since I have been with a girl intimately....So obviously I am holding up my side of that deal. Many of the girls I fall for have had zero male experiences, including this one that has a crush on me.

There is good reasons to date Christian, but never go catholic :D J/K lol

In all honesty, a true devoted Christian women in my eyes, is the perfect gem. Then again, i accept that every one has flaws, considering I am filled with em myself.

This also relates to the whole marriage age set up I told you about. 26 year old Christian males often marry 18-20 year old Christian girls. This due to their increased purity compared to those who have been in the world longer. And the girls find the guys to have settled their spirits more. Then again we all meet Christians who are settled by the age of 18 because their balls never drop....(sry panzies piss me off).

Another man even asks to try something like that with my wife, he will get 2 black eyes, a broken nose, and I will need a new pair of shoes because one of em will be lodged so far up his arse it will never see daylight again. Not from being insulted or anything, but as a response to the sheer disgusting presence I would find in him. And like I said, lesbos are no exception. I dont get WTF all you guys find so attractive about 2 women at once, or two girls kissing.
 
Idk, its a pretty interesting subject a lot of people are into it it would seem. i have a gf who has a lot of christian value's, actually my second one of those, lol but she was celibate till we hooked up and two months later that ended, takin girls virginity is usually a bad idea tho lol ive done it twice and regretted the first big time, this one turned out to be wild as hell and i love it and i think if she ever wanted to or was ok with a threesome, which i think she'd be down, i'd be all over that, what's not bad a$$ about havin two beautiful girls all to yourself at one time? lol sounds like fun to me
 
Zero V said:
A girl who has only been with a few guys though can attach and care with more passion than a girl who just bent over a bench in NY city and let every cock poke around.
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See i'm still not sure exactly how enjoying a certain form of exercise equates to a lack of emotional attachment ability.


Zero V said:
Sex stimulates release of chemicals in the brain that creates attachments. This is why some girls, and guys included, during their first few relationships can become highly attached. The sheer amount of sleeping around that happens today IMO is why our divorce rate is shooting for the 70% area. No one can fully remain attached IMO.
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Although interesting if true, how do attachments start then? because in a pure christian world you'd have been a virgin till your wedding night, so you wouldn't have had the attachment to lead up to it. And you realize divorce rate is actually higher for christians than athiests (outside of LDS)
 
Only if she's into chicks

Is your girl into other chicks? It might be all right if you have a chicks only rule.

noviceiron said:
My wife has mentioned taking one of these... I am not totally against it, but has any done anything like this?

We did some crazy stuff before and while we dated which is why we got married. I was just wondering if any here did or knows anyone who has done this.
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F that. I would never take a serious gf or wife on one of these.

You need to take just some whore girl that you're banging and have no feelings for on one of these. So what if she gets plugged by other guys. At least you can see her munching on box and you can bang other girls.
 
I must agree with "Droppingloads" i used to AP some chick who was actively smashing other dudes... i didn't care.. i'd have my condom on and slam her **** like i was trying to kill it... she would even tell me she loved me lol.... yea right lol
 
Look the bottom line is everyone has their own preference when it comes to this sort of thing. I'm not really the possessive type so I can handle the "lifestyle". But if its the defining characteristic of a relationship then there is clearly something failing there. Monogamy is not the natural, instinctual behavior for men so you can either fight it or just change the rules. It doesn't mean I don't love my wife. There are all different types of relationships and sexual exchanges two people can have and almost all of them are enjoyable so I say there is nothing wrong with a little experimentation. Just cause you are married doesn't mean you should stop trying new things.
 
CrazyChemist said:
Look the bottom line is everyone has their own preference when it comes to this sort of thing. I'm not really the possessive type so I can handle the "lifestyle". But if its the defining characteristic of a relationship then there is clearly something failing there. Monogamy is not the natural, instinctual behavior for men so you can either fight it or just change the rules. It doesn't mean I don't love my wife. There are all different types of relationships and sexual exchanges two people can have and almost all of them are enjoyable so I say there is nothing wrong with a little experimentation. Just cause you are married doesn't mean you should stop trying new things.
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Bravo, I pretty much agree with all this.

I know a swinger couple and they're probably the happiest married couple that I know and have been together for many years (at least 10 if I remember correctly). Two jealous/possesive people could never live that lifestyle though.
 
JDK5386 said:
Man's Sexual Choice = F(status)

Man's Status ~= .8*money+.2*other stuff

Man's Money = F(age, education, intelligence, social skills)

I've found that most women make pretty economically rational decisions when it comes to long term relationships. Other stuff plays a role, but for relationships over a year and marriage, this is by far the biggest role.
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WOW! How long have you been Married? I met my wife, Heard her past, Delt only with present and future events, Fell in love, and got Married, all after knowing her 4 months.

I had no money, took a few years to get some. Ate Hotdogs for weeks to get by. I had my second child making $17,000 a year in 1987. Not at one time has my wife thought of our relationship as an economical desicion.

I see her and only her. She sees me and only me. After 26 years of marriage we still care about each other like the first week we were together. Oh, both of us had a few realationships under our belts when we met.

All of you talking about church girls and such......the ability to forgive falls in there somewheres doesn't it? If you care for someone, past does not matter. In 10/20/50 years no one knows or cares. If you can't handle what someone has done before they met you, you really need to look at yourself...HARD.
 
Wetdawg said:
WOW! How long have you been Married? I met my wife, Heard her past, Delt only with present and future events, Fell in love, and got Married, all after knowing her 4 months.

I had no money, took a few years to get some. Ate Hotdogs for weeks to get by. I had my second child making $17,000 a year in 1987. Not at one time has my wife thought of our relationship as an economical desicion.

I see her and only her. She sees me and only me. After 26 years of marriage we still care about each other like the first week we were together. Oh, both of us had a few realationships under our belts when we met.

All of you talking about church girls and such......the ability to forgive falls in there somewheres doesn't it? If you care for someone, past does not matter. In 10/20/50 years no one knows or cares. If you can't handle what someone has done before they met you, you really need to look at yourself...HARD.
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That is so perfectly said. Life is all about trying new things, making mistakes, figuring out what you want and what you like. People who live inside the lines their whole life are missing out on the point. Unfortunately, making mistakes and trying new things mean that after some time, you have a past. Anyone interesting has a past and parts of that past are shady. No big deal -- it is character building.

As for the economical decision in marriage comment that is just ridiculous. JDK is hanging with some REALLY shallow women and I feel sorry that is what you have come to think of them. Women are some of my favorite people and best friends. Albeit they are irrational creatures most often, you still gotta love them.
 
I didn't read the replies... but hey, at least shes being honest with you and not doing it behind your back (lets hope?)

i recon... best spend a lot of time talking over all possible scenarios with your misses... thinking about it... and possibly try swing with a lesbian couple... but if she wants a dude... from what i've read... dont do it with anyone you know... cut contact with the people asap... in fact... you organise it all and make sure she doesnt have any of their phone numbers etc! gotta set strict ground rules... there are websites which offer insight to this stuff... most people frown upon it... for some it spices up their relo.... even helps keep it alive while its been known to be the downfall for some...

all i can really contribute, good luck, and let me know how it goes (via private message!) haha
 
my $0.02
if you are both into swinging and fine with it, go for it. My only issue might be, the cruise aspect of it, if you hate it you are stuck with it. going to a swinging club you can leave whenever you want.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Any woman that Christ sets me up with is going to be greater than any other girl I could pick for myself. If He sets me up with an ex-prostitute then so be it. I don't doubt Rahab was pretty hot. ;)
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Have you heard of the millionaire matchmaker? Imagine this reality show IC, Jesus' bachelorette Crazy ratings
 
Noviceiron,
No relationship is aided by seeking out others sexually, and if that has to happen then you two were not meant for eachother.
I had read an article a long time ago where a "professional actress" was answering a question similar to what you are discussing except the scenario was that the husband wanted to see his woman with other men. She mentioned that the rush and excitement is addicting, but like any addiction you do come down, crash, and burn.
Man up to the situation, and don't let this go beyond fantasy.. See how you feel after you reach that *ahem* special moment.. You know what I am saying right.
Hope to hear back from you.
MK9
 
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