Robboe
Handsome and intelligent
I'm English. We don't need reasons for thuggery.
Supersize (AX) vs. Craze (DS)
- Thread starter Sonntag
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I'm English. We don't need reasons for thuggery.
abformulations
Legend
Bnatural said:
Thanx. What u did was copy the page into word and sent it as a copy and paste. Hopefully that works.
SweetLou321
Well-known member
Can anyone comment on how long the stim effects last? I remember the 1,3 products keeping me to long. How long does the energy with each last?
schizm
Well-known member
My, my, someone thinks highly of themselves :flowers1:
ah, good to know....now I'll know what to expect next time I run into an Englishman & will have my nunchucks securely tucked in my waist line & ready for action....say, are you and Ben (bdcc) flat mates by chance? I hear all English people know each other and live in flats.
southpaw23
Well-known member
I've tried APS' Mesomorph (creatine nitrate based), which I loved and was my number one stim based PWO. Musclefeast Anabolic Ignite my favorite non-stim PWO (highest dosed creatine/bcaa nitrate PWO that I'm aware of), among the more popular brands like VPX Shotgun, Presurged Unleashed, Superpump Max, Jacked, Wyked, Maximize V2, Isatori's PWO and a host of others. Craze vs all of them? Craze by leaps and bounds. The stim experience is vastly different, and more focused than anything containing 1,3 that I've tried in the past. I'm a stim junkie by definition, in fact I love 1,3, I can't see anything beating the stim/focus attributes from Craze...NADA. It's my new favorite PWO, leagues ahead of anything else that I've ever tried, and I can't see myself going back to pump based PWO's.
bdcc
Legend
Haha, are you confusing us with Indian people who can fit 28 children onto the back seat of one moped?
Robboe, are you really English? I knew you were a nicer guy than this lot.
schizm
Well-known member
Haha, are you confusing us with Indian people who can fit 28 children onto the back seat of one moped?
Robboe, are you really English? I knew you were a nicer guy than this lot.
Indian/English...potato/potahto :alcoholic:
...go knock on your next door neighbor's door, introduce yourself to Robboe, ya introvert...
ProteinMurder
Member
Come on mate, everyone knows us Aussies are cooler than the english 
I LOVE Craze, but too much and it definitely causes some anxiety and a horrible feeling after. Worth it though, as I break a PR every dam workout, it really is an extremely potent PWO. Just be careful with your doses people.
I just ordered a tub of supersize before, as long as feDex dont seize it the morons, I will look forward to putting it through its paces!
What's with dudes complaining about the taste of PWO's? are you for real? WHO CARES! you dont sip it with ice, you slam it down and go train. Couldn't care less about the taste IF it works...
I LOVE Craze, but too much and it definitely causes some anxiety and a horrible feeling after. Worth it though, as I break a PR every dam workout, it really is an extremely potent PWO. Just be careful with your doses people.
I just ordered a tub of supersize before, as long as feDex dont seize it the morons, I will look forward to putting it through its paces!
What's with dudes complaining about the taste of PWO's? are you for real? WHO CARES! you dont sip it with ice, you slam it down and go train. Couldn't care less about the taste IF it works...
Bnatural
AX Product Specialist
that will work. the goal is to be able to provide proof, we want customer satisfaction in this, so provide the proof, we hook you up.
stim effects of which?
the stim effects of supersize are smooth energy that is going to last for a few hours, and it's not a wired energy, just a good clean boost.
abformulations
Legend
Bnatural said:
Aight. Cool. Much appreciated bruh
SweetLou321
Well-known member
Well either one really. I just wanted to know how long the stim effects last. I cant use products that give 5 plus hrs of ENERGY you know what i mean?
Eizbear
Active member
Sorry to hear you were disappointed with Slim FX. But you aren't comparing Slim FX with Craze right ? Different category so to say..
I hope you'll enjoy your ride with Craze..
Bnatural
AX Product Specialist
well, this isn't 1,3 dimeth type energy, just good clean energy.
it's hard to say if it will or won't give YOU 5 or more hours of energy, I usually feel it for a few hours, but not spastic off the wall energy.
abformulations
Legend
Ive been using it for about a week now. Ill say the stim effect is not long lasting, its good clean energy enough for a long workout. To me it wears off at 3 hours avg thus far....
Eizbear
Active member
Would you mind sharing how you took it etc etc ? (Time, amount, with/without food, etc)
Just to be certain that everything is fine there.
abformulations
Legend
Would you mind sharing how you took it etc etc ? (Time, amount, with/without food, etc)
Just to be certain that everything is fine there.
I take one scoop 30min before workout on a empty stomache. So far one scoop is sufficient enough.
Eizbear
Active member
Lol, are we talking about the same product?
I was under the impression that you were talking about Slim FX as you quoted a guy talking about Slim FX
JudgementDay
Legend
Im gonna have to jump on this Craze and give it a shot, I've tried almost every pre-workout, so looking forward to it
abformulations
Legend
Lol, are we talking about the same product?
I was under the impression that you were talking about Slim FX as you quoted a guy talking about Slim FX
Lmao! Idk now u confused me...I was talking about Supersize..
Robboe
Handsome and intelligent
Au contraire, I think you'll find that you think highly of me - highly enough to be thinking about me in a comatose state.
Just sayin
Of course we know each other, the UK is only a little island. You can walk it's perimeter in about ten minutes. The #10 bus takes you from the top to the bottom and back again in about four minutes.
Robboe
Handsome and intelligent
Haha, are you confusing us with Indian people who can fit 28 children onto the back seat of one moped?
Robboe, are you really English? I knew you were a nicer guy than this lot.
Geordie to be precise.
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andrew732 said:
I have to disagree with Andrew here. As I am also an athlete and coordination and mind muscle connection are very high on my list of importance as well. And I felt super size easily accomplished this and was on par with what I felt with craze. But as I've said many times I will vouch for both products. They both are excellent and I'm happy with my purchase of each.
Bnatural
AX Product Specialist
It's good to see that someone else feels the same as I do.
This is just proof that everyone responds differently to supplements.
I did think my sample of craze went well, but I didn't seem to respond as well as others.
To each their own when it comes to supplements and how they respond
D2footballjrc
Well-known member
Bnatural said:
Im agree weirdly enough my diet for that day seems to effect some pros for me as well. Low carb days craze seems to have less an effect on me then higher carbs.
Bnatural
AX Product Specialist
most don't pay attention to what they eat during the day when supplementing.
granted the supplement should still do it's job, but the user should be aware and very aware of how well they respond to different products especially when it relates to what they eat during a given day.
i get hypoglycemic if i don't eat enough carbs prior to a leg workout, which i originally thought was the fault of a supplement I was using, but realized swapping in some oats to replace my wheat bread seemed to do the trick.
probably due to most breads containing enriched flour versus true wheat flour.
D2footballjrc
Well-known member
Good point, I'm trying to shred pounds so that is why I really pay attention to what I eat and take supplement wise. It was just something I noticed, so now on days I'm going to use Craze I adjust my carbs to work with the effect I desire.
Eizbear
Active member
Some good words my friend and also so true..
Even your overall mood affects the supplement you're taking as well, atleast for me.. If I'm having a bad day, it will definitive have a negative effect on what ever supp I'm using.
Clever Mouse
New member
Ahmmm,,, are you sure, bro? This coming from someone who's tried everything....
Please update, also compare to Sx, if you will.
T-AD
Well-known member
Not comparable, Mouse. If Craze is a pre-w/o, then SX or even SlimFX are not a fair comparison simply because they are not pre-w/o's. It's like comparing a car to a sewing machine - both have moving parts, and that's about it...
Sonntag
Member
Yea CleverMouse, you must try it!!!!
For me its feels 98% like SlimXtreme without the side effects....!!!!
Its like no other product...
-very nice euphoria after 20-30 minutes
-focus like on SlimXtreme
-productivity on it is amazing
-dopamin dominant feeling like on SX
-no crash, no hangover next day
-great bootst and energy, comparabel to SX (80% of it)
-appetite depression is amazing too
CONs:
- Creatin Mono sucks
- lasts 6 hours
My first impressions with 1/2 scroop *loool
Sonntag
Member
Right, Crase is another category....
But it has the very similar dopamin-feeling like on SX....SlimFX dosent has it and no other product on the market...
Try Craze...you will say the same...
D2footballjrc
Well-known member
Adralin gave me a really big dopamin feeling as well. Craze is hit or miss on that feeling depending on what I've ate for the day. It's still one of the best PWO's on the market though!
Clever Mouse
New member
I know. But, I have a feeling that "sonntag" and I are looking for the same xtreme effects from a "stimulant", above the usual creatines, carnitines, 1,3-D, and whatnotz. We got the feeling from SX. Maybe it was not THE preworkout supplement, but it was definitely imo a superior "stacker"; you could easily combine with plenty of things (not too much caffeine obviously!) to give that "limitless-pill" effect. Plus, it had a peculiar adderall/modafinil tone (sleep for 3-4 hours, and be JUST FINE the next day...).
Clever Mouse
New member
lol you're definitely high on PEA with all these exclamation marks... well, I gotta admit I ordered a tub as soon as I read your review, will reach me in a few days, but I still don't think it's gonna touch SX. However, the supposed lack of side effects sounds REALLY nice!
Just got back from one hour of a mindblowing cardio on the beach, high and focused as hell on SX, high dose centrophenoxine, piracetam, theanine, cocoa, electrolytes + mitochondrial nutrients. Looking forward to Craze maybe in the weekend lol.
Clever Mouse
New member
Yeah, I'm gonna try it! I just googled a couple reviews, and it does seem it's a "different" supplement, people feel "focused" w/o sides. But only 6 hours? psssh. (just kidding).
Clever Mouse
New member
JRC
New member
Clever Mouse said:
Well I follow IF style diet so I eat a big dinner after I workout then its off to bed as I need to be up early for work. My workouts are at night so if this kills my appetite too much and wont allow me to eat my PWO meal which is my main meal of the day then I might not be able to use it.
Clever Mouse
New member
Yeah, that's a problem. But you can surely work around it. I haven't tried Craze (yet) so maybe someone else can give an example of how much appetite suppression it yields. If it is "active" for 6-8 hours, you could dose it earlier. You should, anyway, for getting a restful sleep.
edit: If you haven't eaten all day, it shouldn't be the biggest problem to finally eat at night, you body would need (crave) the nutrients.
AutoKal47
AK DoubleWide 47
This is how I'd break it down: to date, no other (natural) supplement or stack touches what Craze does for a bodybuilder. Period.
Whether we are talking about prewo, stims, pseudo-anabolics, nootropics, recovery products of any kind, energy boosters, bla bla bla..
Craze simply takes your performance to a *much* higher level which is simply not possible to achieve otherwise (trust me, i tried,
I tried to hard that I got myself sick). So there's no Craze vs anything..
Note I said your performance. So if you don't like to train hard but you want a product that instead "ease your burden" then
there's probably some better choices for ya
Whether we are talking about prewo, stims, pseudo-anabolics, nootropics, recovery products of any kind, energy boosters, bla bla bla..
Craze simply takes your performance to a *much* higher level which is simply not possible to achieve otherwise (trust me, i tried,
I tried to hard that I got myself sick). So there's no Craze vs anything..
Note I said your performance. So if you don't like to train hard but you want a product that instead "ease your burden" then
there's probably some better choices for ya
Masciaman
Active member
AutoKal47
AK DoubleWide 47
I've never done amphetamines but I can tell you one thing: there is NO stim-feeling here, no jitters,
and believe me NO crash at all.
Nothing like 1,3 based products and not even anything like caffeine based products.
Your brain opens up, your body DOES what your mind wants it to do.
I know, it sounds like bs but it's totally true. If you read the article/new study about muscle fatigue
taking place in the brain (first) and not in the muscle itself this will make much more sense.
If you listen to the human radio special on Craze they do touch this subject as well.
If you're convinced you're gonna have that set, you ARE going to get it.. Just try it.
For once, a product lives up to the hype and actually surpass it imo, at least this is my experience with it