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Superdrol-NG vs Superdrol

Wow, this thing went nuts last night.
Let me say this and I'm done with it.
1) when I compared it to Halodrol Liquidgels, It was because they are using the name to sell it. The Rep for AX confirmed that Idea.
2) Will I buy it? Maybe, I want to see a few logs first. Liquidgels do have an effect I just would rather take other products. But Yeah I'd try it if it works , So we will watch and see.
3) Will this change my mind about AX? No I have used their products for years and have always been pleased. I will continue to use them in the future. But I am not gonna get a GNC gold card. I still say GNC are ripoff artist. My local one is proof.
4)Yes, I would have liked a more Sooped-up version but I'd like to win the lottery too.
I think both sides have valid arguments. Can't We all just get along?
 
I'm not sure on the specifics. It said they are catering specifically to GNC so I'm not sure if this is going to be an exclusive sale or if nutraplanet.com is gonna get in on it.

I also too don't know about AX's return policy. I briefly glanced at their site and didn't see it.

Sure you can nickle and dime the Superdrol-NG issue since it is at GNC, but my statement about money > consumer's health still stands. This has been illustrated by the original Superdrol. (I think it was advertised as being quite 'safe'.)


Is it a smart business move ? Absolutely ! If AX has the opportunity to cash in still, esp at GNC why not ? Esp. what sinner said. They are gonna have to start replacing the 'hardcore' customers with other consumers....hence 'catering to a new market'.
 
BigSmith said:
The name is a franchise. Why did hydroxycut, xenadrine, lipodrene, etc keep the names once Ephedra was gone? When they re-introduced the names did they still deliver results? Xenadrine-EFX anyone. That product alone has a extremely strong following an continued sales base of repeat customers.

Why does Microsoft still call windows, windows? It has NONE of the original source code from 3.1. Marketing. I could go on and on with examples.


1.Why did you choose to reuse the “Superdrol” name?

Like every company, our goal is to broaden our horizons into markets yet untapped. .... When you think of Anabolic Xtreme, the name Superdrol automatically comes to mind. It is one of the most recognizable product names in sports nutrition history.

The original Superdrol was infamous for producing rapid and gains in lean muscle mass and strength, and so too will the new Superdrol-NG also produce immediate results like its predecessor. You will notice you are on something good within the first week. A nice androgen feel.
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Very well put.

Stimulant X has been reformulated as well, I am surprised no one is crying over it having the same name.

But do not get me started about cars. Lexus introduced the JCE10 in 2001 to compete with the E46. Tehy equipped it with the infamous 2JZ which is an Inline-6. It was underpowered, but known for it's durability/modability; however, Toyota used inferior internals to its predecessor that was in the N/A MKIV, and now the next gen no longer has a i6, but has a V6, but I digress...
 
ReaperX said:
I'm not sure on the specifics. It said they are catering specifically to GNC so I'm not sure if this is going to be an exclusive sale or if nutraplanet.com is gonna get in on it.

I also too don't know about AX's return policy. I briefly glanced at their site and didn't see it.

Sure you can nickle and dime the Superdrol-NG issue since it is at GNC, but my statement about money > consumer's health still stands. This has been illustrated by the original Superdrol. (I think it was advertised as being quite 'safe'.)


Is it a smart business move ? Absolutely ! If AX has the opportunity to cash in still, esp at GNC why not ? Esp. what sinner said. They are gonna have to start replacing the 'hardcore' customers with other consumers....hence 'catering to a new market'.
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NP has it up already - no price, but as "coming soon".

If you take a close look at AX's forum threads and new products, you'll see more of attempt at 2 lines coming out - one for the mainstream (GNC) crowd, one for hardcore. Smarter marketing to cater to all...

I'm not sure where the return price is either, but anyone contacting BigSmith with an issue would be alerted to it.

Till more logs come out and the IC is released from obligations not to say anything, all evidence from the public is speculation. We'll all agree to leave that alone and just wait for further reviews.
 
If Superdrol-NG turns out to be junk, the opinion about it will spread like a wildfire throughout forums. If Superdrol-NG turns out to be good then the opinion will STILL spread like a wildfire.

IMO, it is very stupid of AX to use the Superdrol name all over again. Superdrol is the gold standard of pro-steroids. I don't give a sh;t what some insert says or what it is 'labeled' as. People will think its the same as the original, so deal with it Big Smith. That is just human perception 101.

The connotation with Superdrol is: Superdrol=explosive gains.

People have high expectations and if Superdrol-NG sucks expect it to reflect upon your name.

Don't get mad at people expecting the same thing. That is just how humans assess connotations, esp. with previous product lines.
 
PumpingIron said:
Reaper, I don't condone buying from GNC, but they do have a money back guarantee for partially used bottles...
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True Story. How does this affect the manufacturer though? Anybody know how GNC handles this?

My company is in the sporting goods industry and stores that offer that kind of return policy, we sometimes have to credit the store and we receive the item back. It is one thing if it is a defective item, but most times it is not. It is just some cheap asses who want to use some equipment for the weekend.
 
xjsynx said:
True Story. How does this affect the manufacturer though? Anybody know how GNC handles this?

My company is in the sporting goods industry and stores that offer that kind of return policy, we sometimes have to credit the store and we receive the item back. It is one thing if it is a defective item, but most times it is not. It is just some cheap asses who want to use some equipment for the weekend.
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I don't know for certain but GNC either bites it, or re-sells it at a reduced cost. I believe that is what Vitamin Shoppe does. (I go there from time to time and they have stuff like that in the back).
 
ReaperX said:
If Superdrol-NG turns out to be junk, the opinion about it will spread like a wildfire throughout forums. If Superdrol-NG turns out to be good then the opinion will STILL spread like a wildfire.

IMO, it is very stupid of AX to use the Superdrol name all over again. Superdrol is the gold standard of pro-steroids. I don't give a sh;t what some insert says or what it is 'labeled' as. People will think its the same as the original, so deal with it Big Smith. That is just human perception 101.

The connotation with Superdrol is: Superdrol=explosive gains.

People have high expectations and if Superdrol-NG sucks expect it to reflect upon your name.

Don't get mad at people expecting the same thing. That is just how humans assess connotations, esp. with previous product lines.
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I can't believe that this is what this forum has become in the last several months. Superdrol is not the gold standard of prosteroids. In fact, there's still a large population that believe that these products disappeared in '05. If anything, the gold standard is, and will always be, Methyl 1-T (but that's a rather moot point). AX is capitalizing on an existing, well-known, brand name and has every right to do so. You don't like it, then don't buy it. Will some people be tricked into buying this? Only if they're ignorant enough to not bother reading the ingredients on the bottle before purchase. I'm getting more than a little sick of reading hundreds of attack posts by new forum members who would fit in better at a larger forum. Is it wrong to question companies? No, its a very smart thing to do. The only thing that saddens me is that a large part of these threads are filled by opinions by people who have only a rudimentary understanding of supplements and fitness. If your newest supplement usage was NO-Xplode, don't bother contributing to this thread.
 
slow-mun said:
I can't believe that this is what this forum has become in the last several months. Superdrol is not the gold standard of prosteroids. In fact, there's still a large population that believe that these products disappeared in '05. If anything, the gold standard is, and will always be, Methyl 1-T (but that's a rather moot point). AX is capitalizing on an existing, well-known, brand name and has every right to do so. You don't like it, then don't buy it. Will some people be tricked into buying this? Only if they're ignorant enough to not bother reading the ingredients on the bottle before purchase. I'm getting more than a little sick of reading hundreds of attack posts by new forum members who would fit in better at a larger forum. Is it wrong to question companies? No, its a very smart thing to do. The only thing that saddens me is that a large part of these threads are filled by opinions by people who have only a rudimentary understanding of supplements and fitness. If your newest supplement usage was NO-Xplode, don't bother contributing to this thread.
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You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.
 
slow-mun said:
I can't believe that this is what this forum has become in the last several months. Superdrol is not the gold standard of prosteroids. In fact, there's still a large population that believe that these products disappeared in '05. If anything, the gold standard is, and will always be, Methyl 1-T (but that's a rather moot point). AX is capitalizing on an existing, well-known, brand name and has every right to do so. You don't like it, then don't buy it. Will some people be tricked into buying this? Only if they're ignorant enough to not bother reading the ingredients on the bottle before purchase. I'm getting more than a little sick of reading hundreds of attack posts by new forum members who would fit in better at a larger forum. Is it wrong to question companies? No, its a very smart thing to do. The only thing that saddens me is that a large part of these threads are filled by opinions by people who have only a rudimentary understanding of supplements and fitness. If your newest supplement usage was NO-Xplode, don't bother contributing to this thread.
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Slow, reaper does get on my nerves often, as well, but he does bring up some decent points as well...

...and I'll let you in on a little secret, this is one of the top 5 largest Bodybuilding/Supplement orientated site on the internet.

But you're right, this is a futile debate...if you can even call it a debate.
 
PumpingIron said:
Slow, reaper does get on my nerves often, as well, but he does bring up some decent points as well...

...and I'll let you in on a little secret, this is one of the top 5 largest Bodybuilding/Supplement orientated site on the internet.

But you're right, this is a futile debate...if you can even call it a debate.
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If we get some needles and thread up in here, we could call it a sewing circle.
 
I am looking forward to testing SDNG out - And I am going to be very honest about everything... As far as the name goes, they can call it what they want, I know that it's not the original, and many other die-hard AX users know this for a fact as well... but lets get past the name - be open to this new supplement and let time tell if it's actually worthy of discussion. I'm happy that there are companies out there that are constanetly trying to bring new supplements out that lack the bad side effects of yester-year... lets let this dog sleep before we beat it
 
I have an idea, instead of talking about the name and marketting, how about we examine what's in it and whether it truly is a prohormone, prosteroid, or designer steroid...
 
PumpingIron said:
Slow, reaper does get on my nerves often, as well, but he does bring up some decent points as well...

...and I'll let you in on a little secret, this is one of the top 5 largest Bodybuilding/Supplement orientated site on the internet.

But you're right, this is a futile debate...if you can even call it a debate.
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I was referring to everbody's drama central. This thread seems like this would fit in there perfectly. In fact, all you would need for this thread to be over there, is a few competing, company reps slinging some mud in it. It just seems so fashionable for new members to attack companies that have been in business longer than the attackers have been lifting. Its pretty frustrating to click onto a thread hoping to read product info. and instead getting several pages of BS. What's worse is the suspicious timing of a new thread(by the same poster)asking for an update on the MassFX University study. In fact, I'd say that was tipping point for my decision to post.
 
PumpingIron said:
I have an idea, instead of talking about the name and marketting, how about we examine what's in it and whether it truly is a prohormone, prosteroid, or designer steroid...
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I think this is what matters most; however, we don't know what is in it :think:

Maybe AX can have another naming contest and rename SDDG

:djparty:
 
Ha!!
 
slow-

2 points:

1. I was providing an explanation for why the Superdrol name is being reused. On top of that I said that it was a good idea to re-use it from a business standpoint. Furthermore, I was illustrating a POTENTIAL customer perception of the name. That's it. Re-read the posts.

2. I am also bringing up the MassFX study because it was mentioned to be done at the end of the summer AND as I stated before it REMINDED me of it. Yeah, reminded. As far as I am concerned, I haven't seen sh;t regarding it.

Re-read my posts (minus the selective reading), USE CRITICAL REASONING, then comment in a more educated manner to me. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not going to cuz your 28.



Yep, your right I did review NO-XPLODE. I'm sure there weere people who found it informative. Didn't care for it ? Do yourself a favor and don't read it. It is really simple.
 
OK, after half a night's sleep, here's how I'm feeling this morning...
I have no idea how good or bad this stuff is. If it turns out to be effective, I will definitely consider buying it (but probably not at GNC, lol). I was merely voicing my dismay at the marketing of this product -- to call something Superdrol that isn't actually Superdrol is asinine. 2+2 still equals 4, in my world.
You can say whatever you want about AX trying to appease the feds by making "safer" supps, but I aint buying it. If that were the case, the last thing they'd call it is Superdrol.
The only reason they chose this name is to make more money. And I have absolutely nothing against money -- I'm trying to make as much as I possibly can myself, but not at the expense of my ethics/morals/reputation.
I simply think they should have chosen a completely different name and marketing strategy ["Saferdrol--80% of the gains, 20% of the sides" lol]
A "forum" is always meant to be a place for people to freely express their opinions, and I will continue to do so. (Unless they find a way to get me banned. :banned: )
 
ReaperX said:
2. I am also bringing up the MassFX study because it was mentioned to be done at the end of the summer AND as I stated before it REMINDED me of it. Yeah, reminded. As far as I am concerned, I haven't seen sh;t regarding it.
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Its coming. The ethics board has taken way longer than expected to review 25R. We got an update a few days ago on finalized testing procedure that will happen.

Methods:
Subjects:

The study will utilize 24 healthy male volunteers with prior experience in weight training for at least 6 months. The subjects will be divided into 2 groups.

Group 1 (n=12) will administer a placebo.
Group 2(n=12) will administer Mass FX™ at 4 capsules spread evenly throughout the day. Mass FX™ and placebo will be given in a double blind fashion.

Subject safety:
Subjects should be healthy and without any known disease. They should not be taking any type of medication or nutritional supplement during the trial period to prevent any drug-drug interactions that might result in undesirable side effects.
Subjects should not have any history of endocrine disease.
Subjects should refrain from alcohol to prevent unnecessary strain on the liver.

Trial:
After pre-trial testing (Refer to Parameters to be studied below) subjects will begin administering Mass FX™ /placebo for a 6 week period.
Subjects will be asked to perform a specific exercise program 4 times a week with a controlled dietary program. Subjects will be monitored on every workout session to ensure all safety precautions are in effect. In addition, they will be monitored for any unusual symptom that may arise.
After the 6 week period, post-trial testing (Refer to Parameters to be studied below) will be conducted to determine any change(s) on muscular strength, body composition and blood chemistries.

Parameters to be studied: Pre/Post trial measurements
Subjects will perform a series of pre and post trial muscular strength tests (Exercise Biology Lab). These tests will be done as a 1 Repetition Maximum (1-RM) strength tests:
1.Upper body : Bench Press
2.Lower body : Leg Press
3.Power movement : Deadlift
Subjects will perform a vertical jump test (Exercise Biology lab) as well as a 100 meter sprint . These tests will be performed to determine functional muscle performance.
Subjects will perform a body composition assessment to determine lean and fat tissue mass via a BOD/POD (Exercise Biology Lab).

Subjects will have their blood pressure measured and recorded (Exercise Biology Lab).

Subjects will undergo a blood chemistry analysis to determine testosterone levels, liver enzymes, RBCs/WBCs, lipid profiles, creatinine, and Blood Urea Nitrogen

Results:
In accordance with the hypothesis above, the expected results are that the following parameters will be improved more significantly in the supplementing group than the placebo group:
Exercise performance
Body composition manifested in an increase in muscle mass
Total and free testosterone
Finally, it is expected that the following health marker remain significantly unchanged: liver enzymes, RBCs/WBCs, lipid profiles, creatinine, and blood urea nitrogen (BUN).
 
BigSmith said:
Its coming. The ethics board has taken way longer than expected to review 25R. We got an update a few days ago on finalized testing procedure that will happen.

Methods:
Subjects:

The study will utilize 24 healthy male volunteers with prior experience in weight training for at least 6 months. The subjects will be divided into 2 groups.

Group 1 (n=12) will administer a placebo.
Group 2(n=12) will administer Mass FX™ at 4 capsules spread evenly throughout the day. Mass FX™ and placebo will be given in a double blind fashion.

Subject safety:
Subjects should be healthy and without any known disease. They should not be taking any type of medication or nutritional supplement during the trial period to prevent any drug-drug interactions that might result in undesirable side effects.
Subjects should not have any history of endocrine disease.
Subjects should refrain from alcohol to prevent unnecessary strain on the liver.

Trial:
After pre-trial testing (Refer to Parameters to be studied below) subjects will begin administering Mass FX™ /placebo for a 6 week period.
Subjects will be asked to perform a specific exercise program 4 times a week with a controlled dietary program. Subjects will be monitored on every workout session to ensure all safety precautions are in effect. In addition, they will be monitored for any unusual symptom that may arise.
After the 6 week period, post-trial testing (Refer to Parameters to be studied below) will be conducted to determine any change(s) on muscular strength, body composition and blood chemistries.

Parameters to be studied: Pre/Post trial measurements
Subjects will perform a series of pre and post trial muscular strength tests (Exercise Biology Lab). These tests will be done as a 1 Repetition Maximum (1-RM) strength tests:
1.Upper body : Bench Press
2.Lower body : Leg Press
3.Power movement : Deadlift
Subjects will perform a vertical jump test (Exercise Biology lab) as well as a 100 meter sprint (Nutter center). These tests will be performed to determine functional muscle performance.
Subjects will perform a body composition assessment to determine lean and fat tissue mass via a BOD/POD (Exercise Biology Lab).

Subjects will have their blood pressure measured and recorded (Exercise Biology Lab).

Subjects will undergo a blood chemistry analysis to determine testosterone levels, liver enzymes, RBCs/WBCs, lipid profiles, creatinine, and Blood Urea Nitrogen (COMPUNET labs)

Results:
In accordance with the hypothesis above, the expected results are that the following parameters will be improved more significantly in the supplementing group than the placebo group:
Exercise performance
Body composition manifested in an increase in muscle mass
Total and free testosterone
Finally, it is expected that the following health marker remain significantly unchanged: liver enzymes, RBCs/WBCs, lipid profiles, creatinine, and blood urea nitrogen (BUN).
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Ok cool, I'll be sure to check it out when its done. That's all I was asking.
 
ReaperX said:
slow-

2 points:

1. I was providing an explanation for why the Superdrol name is being reused. On top of that I said that it was a good idea to re-use it from a business standpoint. Furthermore, I was illustrating a POTENTIAL customer perception of the name. That's it. Re-read the post.

2. I am also bringing up the MassFX study because it was mentioned to be done at the end of the summer AND as I stated before it REMINDED me of it. Yeah, reminded.

Re-read my posts (minus the selective reading), USE CRITICAL REASONING, then comment in a more educated manner to me. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not going to cuz your 28.



Yep, your right I did review NO-XPLODE. I'm sure there weere people who found it informative. Didn't care for it ? Do yourself a favor and don't read it. It is really simple.
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This is one of several forums that I post on. I actually enjoy this one the most, because I cannot represent the company that I work for on here, since they are not a forum sponsor. This allows me the freedom to merely be a forum member and not a company representative. I've been using supplements/lifting for the better part of this decade, so don't talk down to me as if you are an authority on anything. Judging by the 1300+ posts by you in a mere 2 1/2 months, the only thing you could teach me is how to waste bandwidth.
 
ReaperX said:
I don't know for certain but GNC either bites it, or re-sells it at a reduced cost. I believe that is what Vitamin Shoppe does. (I go there from time to time and they have stuff like that in the back).
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Actually all of those chains deduct it from payments owed to the manufacturer. So the manufacturer (ie AX) eats the cost. I actually agree with that and that is how it should be. If someone does not like a product its not the stores fault unless you are buying the heavily spiffed brands they oversell. On some products the salesmen get up to $5 per sale. Of course they might make up a few things to get that Cell Tech sale :)
 
BigSmith said:
Q. Why is the front of the box designed as it is?

A. Because we designed it that way. I will repost once again for you what I said before. I would hope that anyone standing in a store would read at LEAST the front, back, and instructions on the box before buying it. For the online buyers I would hope they read the first 10 words in the retailer write-up before buying it. Otherwise that is their fault if they think they are buying the original. We have done our job explaining VERY well what SDNG is and what to expect.

Q. And why call the product SUPERDROL at all?

Read this about 8 times.

The name is a franchise. Why did hydroxycut, xenadrine, lipodrene, etc keep the names once Ephedra was gone? When they re-introduced the names did they still deliver results? Xenadrine-EFX anyone. That product alone has a extremely strong following an continued sales base of repeat customers. THIS IS STILL A HORMONAL product that delivers great results. It is the Next Generation of the product franchise. Its not flax seed and Creatine that we are calling SDNG here.

Q. And why doesn't Designer Sups own the rights to the name?

A. Why could we not have purchased outright or licensed the rights? That's called none of your business. Look it up in the USPTO search.

I can sit here and make you look like a first grader at a college debate for the next three hours. I am on conference calls with our Asian vendors all night. Your trying to debate something that no one has seen, held, tried (besides testers), or really read the official literature about. Its like you debating Hillary Clinton's military raise program when you don't know anything more than its a raise.
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I'm not trying to stir up anymore debate...but how is it "the worlds #1 selling PROHORMONE?":wtf:
 
Ronnie said:
how is it "the worlds #1 selling PROHORMONE?"
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Read the write-up when released and find out. :) First 10 words explains and substantiates that claim. (not the same wording as the ad at all). Same claim substantiation is part of the packaging as well. It 100% relates to this product.
 
Ronnie said:
I'm not trying to stir up anymore debate...but how is it "the worlds #1 selling PROHORMONE?":wtf:
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Well, since fake Superdrol has sold exactly zero boxes so far, they must be claiming that real Superdrol is #1. So what? What does that have to do with this product, AX?
 
Actually, I guess I should "put down my pen." I've said all I have to say, and it's just becoming redundant (and boring) at this point. So, back to life...
 
wow...all i can say....guys i really dont get all the b*tchin, let the product be released, try it for yourself, then if you dont like it, say what you want about it. Until then, sit back relax, and train.
 
BigSmith said:
Read the write-up when released and find out. :) First 10 words explains and substantiates that claim. (not the same wording as the ad at all). Same claim substantiation is part of the packaging as well. It 100% relates to this product.
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Gotcha. I'm playing Curious George:twisted:
 
john123131 said:
wow...all i can say....guys i really dont get all the b*tchin, let the product be released, try it for yourself, then if you dont like it, say what you want about it. Until then, sit back relax, and train.
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Yeah but Canadians have that French blood and like to rollover and surrender :toofunny:

I kid, I kid my canadian friend LOL
 
john123131 said:
wow...all i can say....guys i really dont get all the b*tchin, let the product be released, try it for yourself, then if you dont like it, say what you want about it. Until then, sit back relax, and train.
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:goodpost:
 
BigSmith said:
Read the write-up when released and find out. :) First 10 words explains and substantiates that claim. (not the same wording as the ad at all). Same claim substantiation is part of the packaging as well. It 100% relates to this product.
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PS: This almost sounds like BigSmith is hinting this stuff may, in fact, be some evolution of the Superdrol chemistry. And if that's the case, I'll retract everything I've said about the "false advertising" of this stuff. Maybe they're not misleading us at all. I hope that's the case. :confused:
 
john123131 said:
wow...all i can say....guys i really dont get all the b*tchin, let the product be released, try it for yourself, then if you dont like it, say what you want about it. Until then, sit back relax, and train.
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I know, really! How bored and how immature does a guy need to be to dog something he's never even tried? How does his opinion even qualify when he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about yet?! Not sure about that.

Like you say though, once you try it, if you think it's crap you have every right to state so! I think there's even a money back offer, so even then you don't have to be a jerk, just get your money back if that's the case, get a life, and move on to something you do like. Right?
 
DR.D said:
I know, really! How bored and how immature does a guy need to be to dog something he's never even tried? How does his opinion even qualify when he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about yet?! Not sure about that.

Like you say though, once you try it, if you think it's crap you have every right to state so! I think there's even a money back offer, so even then you don't have to be a jerk, just get your money back if that's the case, get a life, and move on to something you do like. Right?
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lol...agreed my friend
 
DR.D said:
I know, really! How bored and how immature does a guy need to be to dog something he's never even tried? How does his opinion even qualify when he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about yet?! Not sure about that.

Like you say though, once you try it, if you think it's crap you have every right to state so! I think there's even a money back offer, so even then you don't have to be a jerk, just get your money back if that's the case, get a life, and move on to something you do like. Right?
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:goodpost:
 
ImJ2x said:
PS: This almost sounds like BigSmith is hinting this stuff may, in fact, be some evolution of the Superdrol chemistry. And if that's the case, I'll retract everything I've said about the "false advertising" of this stuff. Maybe they're not misleading us at all. I hope that's the case. :confused:
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TAKE A HIKE! you don't like it, don't use it! :trout:

there is no false advertising, it is EXACTLY what it says it is in the adds.........

maybe you should grab a clue form the cluebag, buddy!:FUfinger:
 
Simply put, you guys have repeatedly proved yourself as being fully capable of building a better mousetrap. I'll be looking forward to this one upon release. People fail to realize that this would likely be an excellent stacker for some of the the current methylated orals going around(this is if I'm even remotely close to what I think it is).
 
DR.D said:
I know, really! How bored and how immature does a guy need to be to dog something he's never even tried? How does his opinion even qualify when he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about yet?! Not sure about that.

Like you say though, once you try it, if you think it's crap you have every right to state so! I think there's even a money back offer, so even then you don't have to be a jerk, just get your money back if that's the case, get a life, and move on to something you do like. Right?
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[this thread just keeps dragging me back in, lol]
DrD (someone for whom I do have a great deal of respect), I have one question for you: If it turns out this product is not an "evolution" of SD in any way, do you think it's OK to call it SUPERDROLng?
 
ImJ2x said:
[this thread just keeps dragging me back in, lol]
DrD (someone for whom I do have a great deal of respect), I have one question for you: If it turns out this product is not an "evolution" of superdrol in any way, do you think it's OK to call it SUPERDROLng?
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Ha! Who do you think formulated it?
 
we could call it IM2jX will get SUPER HUGE and you would doubt it.........

SO DROP IT!

ITS A NAME! IT is a next generation supplement....

Next generation of the superdrol name
Next generation of prohormone users
next generation of______________

get a fukcing life! knock it after you try it...........
 
macedaddy said:
TAKE A HIKE! you don't like it, don't use it! :trout:

there is no false advertising, it is EXACTLY what it says it is in the adds.........

maybe you should grab a clue form the cluebag, buddy!:FUfinger:
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Well on the dam box it says it's Superdrol -- is it?
 
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