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Superdrol... Don't think I respond

Machwon1

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Ok so I know I'll get flamed by jaybry or whoever he is... But anyway.... I been on SD again 2nd time with a good diet.... And yet again no gains... Actually lost weight....

Been on for 2 weeks about... At 10mg/20mg.... And lost about a pound..... Lifts are the same... So I came to the conclusion that I don't respond to SD..... Either that or I need more dosage.....

Is there anything else I can buy legally and gain the mass I would from SD?

I'll post up diet if need be... It's even alil dirty... If you think milk is dirty....
 
My advice would be to just focus on your SS template and your diet and step away from the PH/DS scene for awhile. As you've said, you're starting out very light and perfecting your form.
 
Machwon1 said:
Ok so I know I'll get flamed by jaybry or whoever he is... But anyway.... I been on SD again 2nd time with a good diet.... And yet again no gains... Actually lost weight....

Been on for 2 weeks about... At 10mg/20mg.... And lost about a pound..... Lifts are the same... So I came to the conclusion that I don't respond to SD..... Either that or I need more dosage.....

Is there anything else I can buy legally and gain the mass I would from SD?

I'll post up diet if need be... It's even alil dirty... If you think milk is dirty....
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everyone is different. Some people just dont respond to certain compounds, M LMG would be another option. Diesel V2 is LMG/D zine combo, most get very good mass gains using it.
 
what brand were you using?
 
If you have androgen receptors (which you do...I suppose) and take an orally active steroid requiring no conversion...it has to work...doesn't it? How could it avoid getting into your blood?? (maybe there is a way) I dunno...Im way on the anti-non-responder side of this one.

Like someone else said, what brand? is it old? how was it stored?
 
It's s mass, and good till 2013.... And jrby didn't you kept saying I was lying or am I wrong? I thought you told me to stop making threads or trolling... So I thought you would do the same know is all...
 
When I saw this thread with your username, I thought this would be another hate thread against beastdrol.

However, if you really want something similarly strong, try m1t, alpha one as jbry suggested, or even phera (ConcreteConny gained about 20lbs on his current run).
 
Machwon1 said:
It's s mass, and good till 2013.... And jrby didn't you kept saying I was lying or am I wrong? I thought you told me to stop making threads or trolling... So I thought you would do the same know is all...
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never even heard of S-Mass
 
i didnt respond to superdrol either bud! definately got the side effects tho! even at 30mg i just felt sick and lethargic
 
Ya I had a headache on day 8 and was happy thinking it was gonna mean gains even water gains.... But on day 13 now... Still nothing...

So now I can't hate on the beastdrol... If I just don't respond well to it....

So I might cut this to 3 week run... Do a full pct just incase.... And try something else.... You guys are saying alpha one, phera?....

I would love to do injects... Just test E at 500mg but no sources around me and I don't wanna get ripped... (not asking for a source either just ranting... Again...)
 
I'm On day 11 at 20mg (Beastdrol) and up appx 6-7lbs. Trying to eat like a beast but tbh I'm getting more defined than anything. No real mass (yet?)
 
Machwon1 said:
It's s mass, and good till 2013.... And jrby didn't you kept saying I was lying or am I wrong? I thought you told me to stop making threads or trolling... So I thought you would do the same know is all...
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uh, you must have a memory problem. you should go back and take a look at threads you've posted in.
 
BlackGT99 said:
I'm On day 11 at 20mg (Beastdrol) and up appx 6-7lbs. Trying to eat like a beast but tbh I'm getting more defined than anything. No real mass (yet?)
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Not even 2 weeks and your up 6-7 lbs lean mass.....I wouldnt turn my nose up at that.
 
Thread jousting, always entertaining!

Here is a simple trick: take your SD with 8 or more ounces of grapefruit juice. There is a chemical in the juice that enhances the absorption and bioavailability of the drug into your system. It works, google it. Even some of my own personal scripts warn against taking the med with grapefruit juice because it increases the dose of the drug delivered.

Thank me later....
 
actually, studies have show doing this doesn't increase the benifits of the drug, only side effects.

it prevents enzymes from breaking down certain drugs in the intestines, which allows more of the drug to be absorbed over a period of time. for some compounds with shorter half lives, this may be benificial, like dianabol, but something like turinabol, or hdrol, it may be a bad idea.

with that said, i like to drink all natural g/f juice with everything, cause i like it, i also like to take about 300mg of dhb as well. I think g/f juice + dhb makes a difference. good or bad, or hor much, who knows, could all be placebo.
 
I am going to subscribe to the if you are not gaining, and in your case losing, then you ARE NOT EATING ENOUGH.


Fact? yeah Fact.
 
^i was expecting to Blow Up and fast idk I was over expecting if that is such a thing... I am happy. Good thing diet is relatively clean otherwise it wouldn't be "lbm"
 
Jybry my bad I thought you were saying I was lying because my story wasn't straight... So my fault...

As far as my diet goes because I hear this all the time... Just my breakfast is 1000 calories.... It's a gainer shake... Home made... It's protein powder, natty pb, bannanna, strawberries, some blueberries... I have this as I eat 3-4 eggs.... For lunch I'm usually downing 10oz of chicken, apple, Greek yogurt, and almonds. Dinner for the last 6 days has been 8-10oz of 93% lean ground beef in a huge salad with eVO and I drink some milk with it.... There my 3 big meals... Not even counting my snacks..... And I never eat this much at all.... I am finally up 1lb... But after 2 weeks eating this way no **** haha.... It's like SD is just keeping weight off.... Or it's really underdosed....


I think I'll bump up to 30mg.... The last week maybe even try 40mg the last couple of days....

Idk what to try next... Just something like sd as in huge gains... I looked up alpha one and no one has logs that are complete... And being as it converts to m1t and every talks how crazy that **** was kinda makes me shy away from that..... And max lmg looks ok except gyno risk seems alot higher... Although I'm not to prone to it..
 
eat moar.
 
Dude, where are your fats, and your carbs? 60 - 80 grams of fat and 300 - 400 grams of carbs should be included in your diet. Don't see any of the two anywhere.
 
My snacks... That's where haha... Mostly fruit carbs.... And I try no grains.... I'm getting about 300 protein-350protein... 200-250 carbs.. (which is alot for me.... I usually am at 100-150) and 80-100 fat....
 
Machwon1 said:
My snacks... That's where haha... Mostly fruit carbs.... And I try no grains.... I'm getting about 300 protein-350protein... 200-250 carbs.. (which is alot for me.... I usually am at 100-150) and 80-100 fat....
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lol, how do you expect to gain any mass on SD without eating enough carbs? The problem isn't that you don't respond, the problem is that your apparently clueless about how to eat properly on gear. Pack in oatmeal in the morning, and some good complex carbs during the day.

Things like rice and whole grain pasta will do the trick. Get in around 400 grams of carbs and then come back and I'll be damned if your still not gaining. Also, where is the fat?
 
Machwon1 said:
Even closer to 150 fat thinking about it... Yesterday was 322 protein, 234 carb, 128 fat....
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Like I said, not enough complex carbs. And I am also wondering where exactly you are getting those fats from. Anyway, you can either do as I suggested or keep thinking you don't respond and waste a good cycle. You decide.
 
That's over 100 carbs I normally eat.....when lean bulking... From 150 lean bulk... To 250. On cycle.. So what you talking about I don't know.... I'm over 500-650 calories over maintenance.....Plus I'm a endo... Not a skinny or lengthy person who needs carbs to grow....
 
Yeah dude, keep being stubborn...You are absolutely clueless about a real gear diet. I'm not trying to bash you, just trying to help. I'm an endo too btw.

If you want, I'll give you a quick diet plan. However, if you want to keep everything as it is and continue not to gain, then thats your choice.
 
Please... I'll take any help... Maybe I am wrong... I'll try it.... One last time.... One last cycle of superdrol... So yes please give me a sample diet... Thank you...
 
Alright, no problem.

3 whole eggs + 3 egg whites (scrambled or fried, whichever you prefer) with whole grain bread/toast
1 cup oatmeal with skim milk + handful of almonds & handful of hazelnuts/walnuts/peanuts
8 - 10 OZ chicken breast/turkey breast with 1.5 - 2 cups of rice (you can use basmati rice when bulking, go for brown rice when cutting)
Sliced turkey breast sandwich with handful of nuts (almonds, peanuts walnuts etc).
8-10 OZ of chicken breast/turkey breast with 2 - 2.5 cups of whole grain pasta
Cottage cheese with nuts

Pour 1 - 2 scoops of olive oil over every meal, and eat 2 tablespoons of natural peanut butter with every shake. You can exchange the chicken breast/turkey breast with a nice lean steak 2 times a week max. If you still get bored with chicken, exchange it for grilled shrimp or burgers made from ground turkey meat (very lean, hence not cheating). With this ground meat you can also make bolognese sauce that tastes great with the whole grain pasta.

Now you are getting around 350 - 400 grams of carbs, 100 grams of fat , and 250 - 300 grams of protein (probably more due to your shakes).

Caloric intake is just over 3200, but EXTREMELY clean. If you feel that you are putting on fat, adjust as required. I'll be damned if you don't start putting on mass like crazy with this diet.

I used to be a real fat a$$, and I didn't put on any fat on my recent cycle with this diet
 
I'll give it a try... Diet sounds pretty clean... Never ate that many carbs... But I'll try it out.... Thanks...

Also I usually only have 1 shake a day.. Sometimes 2.... Is that ok?
 
And alpha one is weaker than m1t, with its own intrinsic value, you can find its androgenic/anabolic ratio in vida, but I'm pretty sure its posted in the"ultrdrol wtf" thread. It its less than m1t and msten, but users say at 60mg it is comparable to 15mg of m1t
 
Machwon1 said:
I'll give it a try... Diet sounds pretty clean... Never ate that many carbs... But I'll try it out.... Thanks... Also I usually only have 1 shake a day.. Sometimes 2.... Is that ok?
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I think it will make a big difference. You can take 2 shakes, no problem. I also take a casein shake before going to bed, but thats just because cottage cheese makes me hurl :D
 
Your not getting anything from superdrol!?!? WTF. When I was cycled superdrol I was getting PR's almost every workout and went from shoulder pressing 1 45 plate on each side to two 45 plates for like 7 reps easy. And my bicep curls went from 40 pounds to almost touching 100 with the ez curl bar, But that was with a cycle of dymethazine and lmg. Oral steroids are no ****ing joke.
 
I squat 3 times a week and dead 1-2 times a week.... So I think I have that covered.... But ya I'm gonna eat more and more.... That's what everyone is saying.... But ya up 1 pound...
 
i've been 500 under maintenance and gained on sd. but that is me.

if you aren't experience gains from methyldrostanolone, i dont know what to tell you. try something else.
 
jbryand101b said:
actually, studies have show doing this doesn't increase the benifits of the drug, only side effects.it prevents enzymes from breaking down certain drugs in the intestines, which allows more of the drug to be absorbed over a period of time. for some compounds with shorter half lives, this may be benificial, like dianabol, but something like turinabol, or hdrol, it may be a bad idea.with that said, i like to drink all natural g/f juice with everything, cause i like it, i also like to take about 300mg of dhb as well. I think g/f juice + dhb makes a difference. good or bad, or hor much, who knows, could all be placebo.
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Show me the studies jrby. That logic makes absolutely no sense. You can't have increased sides without increased (a)ffects. It's cause affect. You have increased (e)ffects because there are higher amounts of AAS being absorbed because of the grapefruit juice's chemical interaction. If you take 10mgs of SD, you have a given amount of sides. You take 20, the sides increase. You take it with grapefruit juice the sides increase because the drug is absorbed in a higher ratio. Its that simple.........
 
still looking, but did find a quote from pa on it:

deniall said:
Would drinking grapefruit juice with non-methylated prohormones/prosteroids/aas increase bioavailability as well? Any guess what the effect would be on substances such as 1-AD, transdermal PH, IM AAS, 6-OXO, nolva, etc?? .
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Patrick Arnold said:
good question

the enzyme class blocked by grapefruit (CYP460 or whatever its called) regulates hydroxylation reactions on steroids. and these reactions are often important in deactivating the methylated oral steroids. So it may increase bioavailability. at the same time though, it will increase hepatotoxicty because it will make it that much harder for the liver to break down and deactivate the steroid

for the non-methylated steroids (1-AD, testosterone) the hydroxylations are less important. these are deactivated more by oxidoreductases and oxidoreductases i don't think are affected by grapefruit

for 6-OXO, i dunno what the effect would be

I would just avoid the grapefruit if i were you. you don't know what its doing, you don't know if its doing nothing or making things more toxic or what. Its an unknown that i think is best avoided.
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gonna take me some time, i havn't researched dhb in a couple of years.
 
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