Strong Supplements Locker Room Talk

taylor8461 said:
+tongkat ali About as powerful as a natty stack can get oooooh boi
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Yeah I always run viron during pct but if funds permit I might throw it in. Always gives me a nice mood lift along with the obvious libido boost.
 
Afi140 said:
. And there is no problem using both in tandem to accelerate fat loss/recomp ;)
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Agreed with this. That would be a killer stack. I'm probably going to try that one True Shred drops.
 
brundel said:
With regards to other new products-
Vector will work similar to a light anabolic steroid with regards to effects.
Muscle mass with concurrent fat loss.
Strength, endurance, performance.
Libido and other androgenic effects were noted by most.

Also we are getting close to testing the last 1 or 2 single ingredients for the pre.
This stuff looks KILLER.
Some interesting stuff for sure nobody has used in a pre workout product and the whole formulation has been approached from a different angle.
Gonna make some waves with this one. I promise ;)
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brundel will the pre workout be high stim (with some amines like dmha or something?) or mainly strength/endurance suited without massive amounts of stims but with some innovative plant extracts? in other words - will there be a tolerance and/or health issues if used daily? (i know, many people here use even dmaa or similar products during literally every workout but thats just extremely dumb imho and also very dangerous over the long term)

if its more a real performance enhancing pre workout, the stack with your new anabolics must be some very good sh*t =)
 
iamyourfather said:
brundel will the pre workout be high stim (with some amines like dmha or something?) or mainly strength/endurance suited without massive amounts of stims but with some innovative plant extracts? in other words - will there be a tolerance and/or health issues if used daily? (i know, many people here use even dmaa or similar products during literally every workout but thats just extremely dumb imho and also very dangerous over the long term)

if its more a real performance enhancing pre workout, the stack with your new anabolics must be some very good sh*t =)
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Also interested. I am honestly hoping for no beta alanine and the only stim to be 300mg caffeine and everything else performance and pump enhancing. Either way I’m sure he will put something powerful out.
 
Afi140 said:
Also interested. I am honestly hoping for no beta alanine and the only stim to be 300mg caffeine and everything else performance and pump enhancing. Either way I’m sure he will put something powerful out.
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I know there will be no beta or creatine in it, that info has already been said by him, it is a Preformance based pre workout
 
No beta a, no creatine, no citrulline or agmatine.
If you guys want these I suggest buying them in bulk for cheap and adding. they are expensive to add to a pre just because everone else does and better left for optional additions.
We are using some interesting stuff though. Testing a really crazy new vasodilator at the moment. It will not be a super high stim product.
You will not be disappointed.
 
brundel said:
No beta a, no creatine, no citrulline or agmatine.
If you guys want these I suggest buying them in bulk for cheap and adding. they are expensive to add to a pre just because everone else does and better left for optional additions.
We are using some interesting stuff though. Testing a really crazy new vasodilator at the moment. It will not be a super high stim product.
You will not be disappointed.
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No hydromax or glycerol either right!? :)
 
Afi140 said:
No hydromax or glycerol either right!? :)
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Nope.
Look....I think pre workout formulators are making some crucial mistakes with their ingredient choices. Things are added not because they work well for the purpose but because the company thinks it looks good on the label. Having ingredients just foe the sake of having them. Makes no sense. I'm changing this. I took a new approach.
It won't look super alien. Vasodilators, stimulants etc. But when we release you'll understand what's different ;) and why.
 
brundel said:
Nope.
Look....I think pre workout formulators are making some crucial mistakes with their ingredient choices. Things are added not because they work well for the purpose but because the company thinks it looks good on the label. Having ingredients just foe the sake of having them. Makes no sense. I'm changing this. I took a new approach.
It won't look super alien. Vasodilators, stimulants etc. But when we release you'll understand what's different ;) and why.
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Sounds super alien to me. You have my interest. :-)
 
GrowthFiend said:
Sounds super alien to me. You have my interest. :-)
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Currently the blend I'm using has no stimulants in it.
I've been keeping track of everything. Data data data.
What I eat, when I train, how much water, daily sodium etc etc etc.
This way i can accurately determine effects and causes.
For sure this stuff makes a huge change in training.
Because we are still a ways out I'm not gonna say alot. But for the most part pre workout supps are stimulants with a bunch of other stuff tossed in.
I'm using ours with no stims and it's exceptional.
 
brundel said:
Currently the blend I'm using has no stimulants in it.
I've been keeping track of everything. Data data data.
What I eat, when I train, how much water, daily sodium etc etc etc.
This way i can accurately determine effects and causes.
For sure this stuff makes a huge change in training.
Because we are still a ways out I'm not gonna say alot. But for the most part pre workout supps are stimulants with a bunch of other stuff tossed in.
I'm using ours with no stims and it's exceptional.
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I am digging the approach and excited to try it. Most pwos are just stims stims stims.
 
GrowthFiend said:
I am digging the approach and excited to try it. Most pwos are just stims stims stims.
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Right, and the uneducated think because they feel stimmed out it must be working but no.
Yes the stimulants are working and to some degree stimulants help performance but long term thats just not the way to go.
Otherwise you may as well have some caffeine. Can buy it in kilos for super cheap. five thousand doses for like 25$
Vs 30 doses and sometimes less for 45$ ish. Somethign isnt right there.
So this means we are relying on them for more than....CNS stimulation right.
Ok but how well do the other ingredients work when combined? Because after all...they are combined and taken together. Does citrulline work really well with 400mg caffeine and a bunch of other stims? Probably not.
And do you really need creatine in there? Creatine is also very cheap and while its a great ingredient why put it in a pre workout.
Your better off taking creatine at other times of the day in my opinion because its not really acute adminstration that works. Its loading followed by daily administration. Its not like if you take 5g creatine all of a sudden its going to do all these magical things. And interestingly many products dont even have 5g. We need a new look at how these products are formulated.
 
brundel said:
Right, and the uneducated think because they feel stimmed out it must be working but no.
Yes the stimulants are working and to some degree stimulants help performance but long term thats just not the way to go.
Otherwise you may as well have some caffeine. Can buy it in kilos for super cheap. five thousand doses for like 25$
Vs 30 doses and sometimes less for 45$ ish. Somethign isnt right there.
So this means we are relying on them for more than....CNS stimulation right.
Ok but how well do the other ingredients work when combined? Because after all...they are combined and taken together. Does citrulline work really well with 400mg caffeine and a bunch of other stims? Probably not.
And do you really need creatine in there? Creatine is also very cheap and while its a great ingredient why put it in a pre workout.
Your better off taking creatine at other times of the day in my opinion because its not really acute adminstration that works. Its loading followed by daily administration. Its not like if you take 5g creatine all of a sudden its going to do all these magical things. And interestingly many products dont even have 5g. We need a new look at how these products are formulated.
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I agree but the hardest part will trying change the way people think about pre-workouts. Seems like an uphill battle.
 
leroyjenkinss said:
I agree but the hardest part will trying change the way people think about pre-workouts. Seems like an uphill battle.
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This is true. It just has to be explained well. Why are we using XXX when nobody ever has used XXX in a pre workout before?
Why dont we use XXX Because everyone seems to use XXX in theirs?
 
i think there ARE people that dont want a high stim pre workout all the time, at least because of their health. i also think that your product will speak for itself with some well researched ingredients and awesome feedbacks. for me its a no brainer to try it, especially BECAUSE its not a high stim product. i dont want to use re1gn or other similar products every training, so it would be great to have something effective that is not unhealthy on the other side because if we are honest - all these amphetamine derivates are research chemicals, nobody can tell us what long term effects will be. i dont think that we all get cancer or some **** but its for sure not a bad idea to limit the consumption of these substances, so your product would be a welcome alternative - and not just for me!

oh and generally im using these high stim pre‘s because of the fun part and not for a real performance enhancement.

and another addition; i always use at least caffeine before my workouts. so if im not using a hardcore pre workout i just swallow 300mg caffeine or a strong coffee. what i want to say is that i think at least some caffeine (300mg max., imho) should be in a product if its not just a pump product. will you add caffeine?
 
iamyourfather said:
i think there ARE people that dont want a high stim pre workout all the time, at least because of their health. i also think that your product will speak for itself with some well researched ingredients and awesome feedbacks. for me its a no brainer to try it, especially BECAUSE its not a high stim product. i dont want to use re1gn or other similar products every training, so it would be great to have something effective that is not unhealthy on the other side because if we are honest - all these amphetamine derivates are research chemicals, nobody can tell us what long term effects will be. i dont think that we all get cancer or some **** but its for sure not a bad idea to limit the consumption of these substances, so your product would be a welcome alternative - and not just for me!

oh and generally im using these high stim pre‘s because of the fun part and not for a real performance enhancement.

and another addition; i always use at least caffeine before my workouts. so if im not using a hardcore pre workout i just swallow 300mg caffeine or a strong coffee. what i want to say is that i think at least some caffeine (300mg max., imho) should be in a product if its not just a pump product. will you add caffeine?
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I dont want to say too much about the formula itself but we will have some stimulant in there. Its just not, by any means the foundation of the product.
We have not even tested it at all with a stimulant.
100% of the testing has been single ingredient or multiple with 0 stims. Because again we want it to work well without it.
And, then we will test with the stim to ensure we are having maximum effects.
We will not have half a dozen CNS stims though. This is counterproductive. Its fine if you want to get speeded out.
Not good if performance is your goal.
 
brundel said:
I dont want to say too much about the formula itself but we will have some stimulant in there. Its just not, by any means the foundation of the product.
We have not even tested it at all with a stimulant.
100% of the testing has been single ingredient or multiple with 0 stims. Because again we want it to work well without it.
And, then we will test with the stim to ensure we are having maximum effects.
We will not have half a dozen CNS stims though. This is counterproductive. Its fine if you want to get speeded out.
Not good if performance is your goal.
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Perfect. I am all for caffeine as being the only stim but I’m sure it will be a clean energy no matter what you use.
 
Ok I’m loosing track here. So many comments.
When are the new products dropping exactly?
Other than True Shred which I’ve noticed online but what about the others - what’s their ETA?
 
Dank0078 said:
Ok I’m loosing track here. So many comments.
When are the new products dropping exactly?
Other than True Shred which I’ve noticed online but what about the others - what’s their ETA?
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True shred is dropping first. Then BLR’s new natural anabolic with a strong exclusive intro sale in 2-4 weeks iirc. Then BLR is also in the beta stages of their new pre also due out in the first half of 2018.
 
Yah. Vector will be ready in a couple weeks. Natural anabolic.
We have another anabolic in testing, undetermined release date.
And our pre which will be ready in maybe 8 weeks.
Just testing 2 final ingredients before the full blend.

Vector is something to behold. 3 plant extracts. Each with its own muse building and fat loss and performance enhancing effects. 3000mg dose.
Gonna be a powerhouse.
 
brundel said:
Yah. Vector will be ready in a couple weeks. Natural anabolic.
We have another anabolic in testing, undetermined release date.
And our pre which will be ready in maybe 8 weeks.
Just testing 2 final ingredients before the full blend.

Vector is something to behold. 3 plant extracts. Each with its own muse building and fat loss and performance enhancing effects. 3000mg dose.
Gonna be a powerhouse.
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It’s gonna be game changing people! Get your wallets ready!
 
brundel said:
Yah. Vector will be ready in a couple weeks. Natural anabolic.
We have another anabolic in testing, undetermined release date.
And our pre which will be ready in maybe 8 weeks.
Just testing 2 final ingredients before the full blend.

Vector is something to behold. 3 plant extracts. Each with its own muse building and fat loss and performance enhancing effects. 3000mg dose.
Gonna be a powerhouse.
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Dang! Can't wait to try Vector. Sounds pretty sweet!
 
Gonna throw in True Shred straight after an 8 or 12 week run of Vector to rip me up, really stoked about this stack
 
So frustrating. When I add True Shred into my cart it adds Australian shipping cost. But once I apply the discount code it doesn’t add shipping costs and I can’t proceed to payment.
Any ideas??
 
Dank0078 said:
So frustrating. When I add True Shred into my cart it adds Australian shipping cost. But once I apply the discount code it doesn’t add shipping costs and I can’t proceed to payment.
Any ideas??
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Just ordered mine, got free shipping. So I guess it worked for me.
 
Dank0078 said:
So frustrating. When I add True Shred into my cart it adds Australian shipping cost. But once I apply the discount code it doesn’t add shipping costs and I can’t proceed to payment.
Any ideas??
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I’ll try and get an answer ASAP but the live chat might be able to help you a little faster. They can usually walk you right through it.
 
Afi140 said:
TRUESHRED40 sign up for our mailer and you’ll be the first to know ;)
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I am signed up but must've missed the email as I buy regularly from strong however when I put true shred into my cart it tells me there are no shipping options available to me right now, what's going on with that. I live in UK
 
jt75 said:
I am signed up but must've missed the email as I buy regularly from strong however when I put true shred into my cart it tells me there are no shipping options available to me right now, what's going on with that. I live in UK
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Issue should be fixed now :) try again and lmk
 
boflex78 said:
Awesome, I know with the Ep1logue the shipping was pretty quick so hopefully here by Friday so I can start this up!
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Yes, all orders placed before 2pm pst are going to be shipped out the same day. True Shred is moving like hot cakes! Get it while it's cheap guys! You won't see a discount like this on it ever again.
 
jt75 said:
I am signed up but must've missed the email as I buy regularly from strong however when I put true shred into my cart it tells me there are no shipping options available to me right now, what's going on with that. I live in UK
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Issue should be fixed now :) try again and lmk
 
Afi140 said:
Issue should be fixed now :) try again and lmk
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Thanks. Bought.
On the write up on sss it still claims arimistane as an aromatase inhibitor and its pretty much been established on AM that its not. So, will we need an actual AI whilst using true shred?
 
jt75 said:
Thanks. Bought.
On the write up on sss it still claims arimistane as an aromatase inhibitor and its pretty much been established on AM that its not. So, will we need an actual AI whilst using true shred?
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Based on the looks of it no. Seems like Arimistane was in there for muscle hardening and improve vascularity. Just scooped mine up.
 
Joepower said:
Based on the looks of it no. Seems like Arimistane was in there for muscle hardening and improve vascularity. Just scooped mine up.
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No ai is necessary. Everything in the bottle is all you need ;)
 
Dank0078 said:
Awesome just got mine. Only bought one though. Is it recommended for 4 or 8 week ?
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Either or. 4 weeks will yield great results and you can run up to 8 weeks.
 
dollar662 said:
I forgot to log into my account and just used PayPal to check out. Is there a way to check order status ?
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If you did a guest checkout you won't be able to log in and see the order but just shoot a message to the team on the site and they will look it up and let you know what is going on with it. If placed after 2 pm pst it is shipping tomorrow.

https://www.strongsupplementshop.com/pro-support
 
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