Spilanthes XT - Natural Testosterone & Libido Enhancer

[barische]

any muscle building benefit? has anyone noticed any difference in strength in the gym?

 

[GQdaLEGEND]

any muscle building benefit? has anyone noticed any difference in strength in the gym?

I believe it does .. could be mainly due to NO benefits / elevated test levels im sure contributes to it as well.

 

[barische]

I believe it does .. could be mainly due to NO benefits / elevated test levels im sure contributes to it as well.

thanks, appreciated

 

[50Magnum]

I posted in another thread for feedback, but how is everyone liking this product right now? Like performance wise in the gym(not in the bedroom) similar to citrulline/arginine?? Just seeing if there are any benefits taking spilanthes gym wise.

 

[sns8778]

I posted in another thread for feedback, but how is everyone liking this product right now? Like performance wise in the gym(not in the bedroom) similar to citrulline/arginine?? Just seeing if there are any benefits taking spilanthes gym wise.

Spilanthes is cool in that it has natural testosterone and nitric oxide enhancing properties - so it should help with performance in the gym and the bedroom.

I wouldn't compare it directly to Citrulline or Arginine though because those are primarily nitric oxide boosters without the natural testosterone boosting effects.

We've received a lot of good feedback on Spilanthes XT. Hopefully some people will share theirs here as well.

 

[poison]

I liked it a lot for libido, and I wish I had had more than one bottle. Tough to say, but I think it helped with mass a bit.

 

[GQdaLEGEND]

agree with @poison i touched it on earier in this thread .. i do believe this helps in the gym as well .. maybe running solo you might not notice much ..but if you take it pre workout, i think you will see it build up in your system and notice the NO benefits.

and as for libido/bedroom .. its awesome

 

[TommyTuffGuy]

So this vs Furosap, which one you think is better for libido?

 

[GQdaLEGEND]

So this vs Furosap, which one you think is better for libido?

oh thats tough .. i have tested spilanthes more so i am going to go with that for myself

but quality Furosap like SNS is providing with astragin & bioperine i think according to others will win out easily

run em both

 

[poison]

I'd spilanthes for libido.

 

[sns8778]

So this vs Furosap, which one you think is better for libido?

I think this is one of those where the answer may be different for different people type of things and depend on how they respond to them.

 

[macbeth4397]

Can you use Spilanthes with BLR Viron? cheers..

 

[GQdaLEGEND]

Can you use Spilanthes with BLR Viron? cheers..

You def can .. it was designed to be stacked with Mtest which offers tongkat + boron + more .. so Viron would be okay imo.

Solo/Bulk are always nice due to their flexibility of adding in with your other favorite supplements.

I know some who run Mtest year around and have thrown in Spilanthes in it and are enjoying the benefits.

 

[badhabiz]

It would make a great stack with M-Test for sure.

Would you stack this or Optimize T with m test ?

 

[sns8778]

Would you stack this or Optimize T with m test ?

Yes, you can stack Optimize-T with M-Test.

 

[badhabiz]

Yes, you can stack Optimize-T with M-Test.

i see on examine that you need 100mg/kg (acmella) to see any results on fsh and lh. any opinion?

 

[sns8778]

i see on examine that you need 100mg/kg (acmella) to see any results on fsh and lh. any opinion?

My first opinion would be to fact check your sources and don't believe everything that examine.com says. A lot of times when it comes to herbs, they give out dosages with no regard to what the herb is standardized for or the concentration of the standardization.

When it comes to herbs, what's important is the active constituent and standardization. In this case, of Spilanthes. But other examples include Milk Thistle, Curcumin, and many more. For example, if you want liver support benefits, its not how much Milk Thistle you take, its how much Silymarin is in the Milk Thistle you take, so the dosage required of an 80% to be effective would be completely different than of a 5%. Or Tongkat Ali, the type we use in Optimize-T is std. to a min 2% Eurycomanone whereas many types are .1 or .2 percent - meaning the the 2% is literally 10 to 20 times higher % of Eurycomanone than the lower ones so of course the dosage needed would be lower.

In the Spilanthes XT write up, which is included in the first posts in this thread, we specifically address the importance of standardization of Spilanthes which is why we use a branded ingredient type.

In this thread alone, there is a lot of great feedback on Spilanthes XT.

 

[badhabiz]

My first opinion would be to fact check your sources and don't believe everything that examine.com says. A lot of times when it comes to herbs, they give out dosages with no regard to what the herb is standardized for or the concentration of the standardization.

When it comes to herbs, what's important is the active constituent and standardization. In this case, of Spilanthes. But other examples include Milk Thistle, Curcumin, and many more. For example, if you want liver support benefits, its not how much Milk Thistle you take, its how much Silymarin is in the Milk Thistle you take, so the dosage required of an 80% to be effective would be completely different than of a 5%. Or Tongkat Ali, the type we use in Optimize-T is std. to a min 2% Eurycomanone whereas many types are .1 or .2 percent - meaning the the 2% is literally 10 to 20 times higher % of Eurycomanone than the lower ones so of course the dosage needed would be lower.

In the Spilanthes XT write up, which is included in the first posts in this thread, we specifically address the importance of standardization of Spilanthes which is why we use a branded ingredient type.

In this thread alone, there is a lot of great feedback on Spilanthes XT.

im not educated about this herb (not my job, def not my study) so i was just wondering. i cant wait for m test to arrive...and if i like it, to stack it with this one or (probably) optimize t.

 

[sns8778]

im not educated about this herb (not my job, def not my study) so i was just wondering. i cant wait for m test to arrive...and if i like it, to stack it with this one or (probably) optimize t.

No problem at all. I'm glad to answer questions. I always try to cover things like that in the product write ups.

The information that I wrote above about standardizations pertains to most herbs in that its not the total dose you take, its what's in the dose you take.

Examine.com is a good starter point for some things, but they are really just a starter point most of the time, especially for herbs. And I don't fault them, I think they do a good job with what they're trying to do. There are just too many ingredients to stay on top of everything and also, they try not to promote branded ingredients or any one specific branded ingredient, so it puts them in a spot where sometimes than talk about specialized extracts and come off like they're promoting them, they just stick with generic material stuff. I hope that makes sense.

M-Test makes a great stack with Spilanthes XT and/or Optimize-T

 

[Beau]

Optimize-T is nice. I am enjoying it. Kudos.

 

[sns8778]

Optimize-T is nice. I am enjoying it. Kudos.

I'm really glad to hear that you're enjoying it

 

[Jstrong20]

any muscle building benefit? has anyone noticed any difference in strength in the gym?

Thought I already posted this but didnt see it. It seemed to make my muscles look noticabley fuller.

 

[-RONIN-]

I have been using it for one month on top of my Cistanche, Tongkat Ali and Tribulus stack that i use year round...i can say for sure that my libido goes up, blood flow is up (mild boost but noticeable), mood is up and yeah, muscles are fuller.

Going to use it year round with other three.

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[sns8778]

I have been using it for one month on top of my Cistanche, Tongkat Ali and Tribulus stack that i use year round...i can say for sure that my libido goes up, blood flow is up (mild boost but noticeable), mood is up and yeah, muscles are fuller.

Going to use it year round with other three.

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Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad that you're enjoying it.

 

[mase1]

Just started this solo, feels good already. I'll keep this updated

 

[poison]

Yeah, I really like this stuff a lot.

 

[ramses31]

Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad that you're enjoying it.

U guys need to make Bryonia Laciniosa standardized to Byroviron.

 

[sns8778]

U guys need to make Bryonia Laciniosa standardized to Byroviron.

We're always open to ideas but that's not one we ever really get asked for.

 

[badhabiz]

@sns8778 - have you read this study ..

Researchers have also noted an increase in sexual frequency, ejaculation and penile erection index (PEI). In fact, 150mg per day saw a 300% increase in PEI and Viagra saw a 400% increase. Therefore, Spilanthes extract isn’t far off Viagra for erection quality and frequency.

It is important to note that some of these Viagra-like benefits that come from Spilanthes acmella, actually come from its ability to increase Nitric Oxide (NO2). This is exciting news for athletes looking to use Spilanthes prior to exercise and increase testosterone and blood flow to skeletal muscles.



.. bro if i have a 2nd child its gonna be because of this, first one i thanked M-test for it lol

150mg per day per kilos...am i wrong?

 

[GQdaLEGEND]

150mg per day per kilos...am i wrong?

i dont remember to be honest .. been a while since i read that aus study

i do remember that same study was suggesting 300-600mg was where it showed every customer to be "happy" with results .. SNS giving 500mg per capsule /60 servings is pretty bad a$s and helps you control your dosage

i def loved it at full 1G

 

[sns8778]

150mg per day per kilos...am i wrong?

Not as simple as that because it would vary by the % of active ingredient per material.

That's why we use SA3X - branded version that provides a very high active ingredient %.

500 to 1000 mg. per day is the ideal dosage range.

 

[alvin1]

does it boost NO like beet root or does it work as something that inhibit the thing that brake NO production?

 

[sns8778]

does it boost NO like beet root or does it work as something that inhibit the thing that brake NO production?

Spilanthes has been shown to increase nitric oxide. That has been stated in the studies but they didn't go in depth as to how it does so if I remember correctly, but the focal point of the study was whether it actually did, not how it did it.

 

[mase1]

I think a good NO boost, much fuller muscles

 

[div1872]

Does this extract have a diuretic effect?

 

[aaronuconn]

Does this extract have a diuretic effect?

I’ve used it in Optimize T and I can’t say I’ve noticed a diuretic effect. Just my personal feedback though

 

[mase1]

Does this extract have a diuretic effect?

Strangely enough I notice if I dose it too close to bed.

 

[Canguy]

Seems to be out of stock at a few places. I even checked out the SNS site and no stock.

 

[sns8778]

Does this extract have a diuretic effect?

None that I've noticed personally and haven't had any feedback on it having diuretic properties to it.

Individual response can vary to a lot of things though. I have things that make me have to pee more frequently that I can't make any scientific sense of why they would be doing it, even some basic vitamins if I time them at certain times.

 

[sns8778]

Seems to be out of stock at a few places. I even checked out the SNS site and no stock.

We should have Spilanthes XT back in stock within the next couple of weeks.

Branded ingredients are great but the downside is that sometimes if the supplier is out of their ingredient or doesn't have raws in the country, sometimes the company may wind up out of stock for periods of time.

The raws are in now and its in the production lineup.

 

[alvin1]

Does Anacyclus comming back in stock soon also?

 

[sns8778]

Does Anacyclus comming back in stock soon also?

Yes, that one should be back in stock within the next 2 weeks as far as I know.

 

[AndrewMcD]

Will this ever be back in stock?

 

[sns8778]

Will this ever be back in stock?

We should have Spilanthes XT back in stock within the next 3 weeks I'm hoping.

I'm not sure if you've seen, but Spilanthes is also included in our Optimize-T formula along with a lot of other great ingredients and has received a lot of great feedback:

Optimize-T - 120 Veg Caps | Serious Nutrition Solutions

Optimize-T - Natural Testosterone Booster. Libido Enhancer. Clinically Researched Key Ingredients. Tongkat Ali, Furosap, Spilanthes, PrimaVie, & more.

seriousnutritionsolutions.com

Here's a link to the Optimize-T thread so you can see some of the feedback in case you're interested:

SNS Optimize-T - Ultra Premium Natural Test Booster & Libido Enhancer - Now Available - AnabolicMinds.com

Natural Testosterone Booster & Libido Enhancer Optimize Free & Total Testosterone Levels Clinically Researched Key Ingredients 8 High End Active Ingredients …. Backed by Clinically Researched Key Ingredients 500 mg. FuroSap® 500 Mg. Spilanthes (SA3X™) 300 mg. Bionutricia® Tongkat Ali 250 mg...

anabolicminds.com

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I'm sorry for the inconvenience of this and any out of stocks.

We do our best to keep products in stock to the best of our ability.

I know that it can be frustrating to consumers, but its also very frustrating to us as a company because we depend on products being in stock for our sales and to exist as a company and pay our bills.

A lot of the out of stocks that we've had have been because of the well-known issues that this industry has had with the supply chain within the last year. We offer over 70 sku's, so we're going to have more out of stocks than most companies because we offer so many more products than other companies.

Also, some of the out of stocks have been caused by our commitment to great quality products and cost effective prices.

We are very specific and picky about raw material quality and we also use a lot of branded ingredients in our products.
So, if a branded ingredient is out of stock, we have no choice but to wait.
Also, if we can't get an ingredient to the spec we want, we wind up out of stock. Probably a bad business decision and that's why a lot of brands would just substitute whatever spec they could get at the time to stay in stock, but I'm just not comfortable with that because we have a lot of people that depend on our products to deliver on their desired results and its important to me personally that they do so as well.

I hope all of that makes sense and I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

 

[AndrewMcD]

We should have Spilanthes XT back in stock within the next 3 weeks I'm hoping.

I'm not sure if you've seen, but Spilanthes is also included in our Optimize-T formula along with a lot of other great ingredients and has received a lot of great feedback:

Optimize-T - 120 Veg Caps | Serious Nutrition Solutions

Optimize-T - Natural Testosterone Booster. Libido Enhancer. Clinically Researched Key Ingredients. Tongkat Ali, Furosap, Spilanthes, PrimaVie, & more.

seriousnutritionsolutions.com

Here's a link to the Optimize-T thread so you can see some of the feedback in case you're interested:

SNS Optimize-T - Ultra Premium Natural Test Booster & Libido Enhancer - Now Available - AnabolicMinds.com

Natural Testosterone Booster & Libido Enhancer Optimize Free & Total Testosterone Levels Clinically Researched Key Ingredients 8 High End Active Ingredients …. Backed by Clinically Researched Key Ingredients 500 mg. FuroSap® 500 Mg. Spilanthes (SA3X™) 300 mg. Bionutricia® Tongkat Ali 250 mg...

anabolicminds.com

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I'm sorry for the inconvenience of this and any out of stocks.

We do our best to keep products in stock to the best of our ability.

I know that it can be frustrating to consumers, but its also very frustrating to us as a company because we depend on products being in stock for our sales and to exist as a company and pay our bills.

A lot of the out of stocks that we've had have been because of the well-known issues that this industry has had with the supply chain within the last year. We offer over 70 sku's, so we're going to have more out of stocks than most companies because we offer so many more products than other companies.

Also, some of the out of stocks have been caused by our commitment to great quality products and cost effective prices.

We are very specific and picky about raw material quality and we also use a lot of branded ingredients in our products.
So, if a branded ingredient is out of stock, we have no choice but to wait.
Also, if we can't get an ingredient to the spec we want, we wind up out of stock. Probably a bad business decision and that's why a lot of brands would just substitute whatever spec they could get at the time to stay in stock, but I'm just not comfortable with that because we have a lot of people that depend on our products to deliver on their desired results and its important to me personally that they do so as well.

I hope all of that makes sense and I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

Thank you for the reply! I appreciate it.

I did see it's in Optimize T.

Unfortunately, I seem to have an allergic reaction to fenugreek.

Shilajit is a little too acetylcholine boosting for me as well.

 

[sns8778]

Thank you for the reply! I appreciate it.

I did see it's in Optimize T.

Unfortunately, I seem to have an allergic reaction to fenugreek.

Shilajit is a little too acetylcholine boosting for me as well.

I have a lot of allergies myself and I wonder if your allergy is to a particular type/constituent of Fenugreek or overall Fenugreek itself. The reason that I ponder that is because Furosap is a extracted a particular way to have high concentrations of particular actives whereas regular Fenugreek can have properties that cause flushing and redness, particularly in males but that do not pertain to Furosap at all. Basically, there's a lot to Fenugreek and I do a lot of allergy research so its a subject I'm fascinated by.

For Shilajit, its not particularly acetylcholine boosting. I'm not saying that it may not be for you, but just wanted to clarify that for anyone else reading this thread. I'm a big fan of the ingredient itself and think its wonderful for a lot of things, but I wouldn't promote it as an acetyl choline booster, although I've seen that some brands do.

I'm glad that you like Spilanthes though and we should have it back in stock within a couple weeks.

Also, if you want to, you can click follow on my profile and follow my posts and you'll see another product come out very soon that will have Spilanthes as part of a great overall formula that will not have Shilajit or Furosap in it that you may like as well

 

[AndrewMcD]

I have a lot of allergies myself and I wonder if your allergy is to a particular type/constituent of Fenugreek or overall Fenugreek itself. The reason that I ponder that is because Furosap is a extracted a particular way to have high concentrations of particular actives whereas regular Fenugreek can have properties that cause flushing and redness, particularly in males but that do not pertain to Furosap at all. Basically, there's a lot to Fenugreek and I do a lot of allergy research so its a subject I'm fascinated by.

For Shilajit, its not particularly acetylcholine boosting. I'm not saying that it may not be for you, but just wanted to clarify that for anyone else reading this thread. I'm a big fan of the ingredient itself and think its wonderful for a lot of things, but I wouldn't promote it as an acetyl choline booster, although I've seen that some brands do.

I'm glad that you like Spilanthes though and we should have it back in stock within a couple weeks.

Also, if you want to, you can click follow on my profile and follow my posts and you'll see another product come out very soon that will have Spilanthes as part of a great overall formula that will not have Shilajit or Furosap in it that you may like as well

Appreciate the response. That's an interesting idea...

I have to disagree with you though. Shilajit is a pretty potent acetylcholine boosting supplement in my experience via it acting as an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor. Specifically, the humid and fulvic acids.

I'm also sensitive to high acetylcholine resulting in depression...and every time I've taken shilajit alone it leads to a decrease in mood. I will say...I am the exception, not the rule...but do a quick search in the reddit r/nootropics and you will see there a quite a few people who also experience mood lowering effects from acetylcholine promoting compounds.

INVESTIGATION OF INHIBITORY EFFECT OF HUMIC ACID ON ACETYLCHOLINESTERASE AND BUTYRYLCHOLINESTERASE ENZYME

Systemic administration of defined extracts from Withania somnifera (Indian Ginseng) and Shilajit differentially affects cholinergic but not glutamatergic and GABAergic markers in rat brain

"Administration of Shilajit led to reduced acetylcholinesterase staining, restricted to the basal forebrain nuclei including medial septum and the vertical limb of the diagonal band."

Inhibitory Activity of the Extract, Fractions, and Compounds 1-6 of Mongolian Shilajit on AChE, BChE, and BACE1 Activity and AGE Formation

"The Shilajit extract and n-BuOH fraction inhibited AChE activity (IC50 422.83 ± 6.11 and 240.28 ± 8.58 µg/mL, respectively, whereas the n-BuOH fraction and extract showed greater inhibition of BChE activity (IC50 55.85 ± 1.01, 59.36 ± 0.76 µg/mL, respectively) than the other fractions. "

Again, I am the exception here and most people probably love shilajit. I love SNS products. Just wanted to give a heads up to people who may be sensitive and didn't realize shilajit contains acetylcholinesterase inhibitors.

 

[ThaReal Big]

Thank you for the reply! I appreciate it.

I did see it's in Optimize T.

Unfortunately, I seem to have an allergic reaction to fenugreek.

Shilajit is a little too acetylcholine boosting for me as well.

What's the allergic reaction you get with Fenugreek? I feel when I take too much it breaks me out.

 

[AndrewMcD]

What's the allergic reaction you get with Fenugreek? I feel when I take too much it breaks me out.

Mainly fatigue and stuffy nose.

 

[sns8778]

Appreciate the response. That's an interesting idea...

I have to disagree with you though. Shilajit is a pretty potent acetylcholine boosting supplement in my experience via it acting as an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor. Specifically, the humid and fulvic acids.

I'm also sensitive to high acetylcholine resulting in depression...and every time I've taken shilajit alone it leads to a decrease in mood. I will say...I am the exception, not the rule...but do a quick search in the reddit r/nootropics and you will see there a quite a few people who also experience mood lowering effects from acetylcholine promoting compounds.

INVESTIGATION OF INHIBITORY EFFECT OF HUMIC ACID ON ACETYLCHOLINESTERASE AND BUTYRYLCHOLINESTERASE ENZYME

Systemic administration of defined extracts from Withania somnifera (Indian Ginseng) and Shilajit differentially affects cholinergic but not glutamatergic and GABAergic markers in rat brain

"Administration of Shilajit led to reduced acetylcholinesterase staining, restricted to the basal forebrain nuclei including medial septum and the vertical limb of the diagonal band."

Inhibitory Activity of the Extract, Fractions, and Compounds 1-6 of Mongolian Shilajit on AChE, BChE, and BACE1 Activity and AGE Formation

"The Shilajit extract and n-BuOH fraction inhibited AChE activity (IC50 422.83 ± 6.11 and 240.28 ± 8.58 µg/mL, respectively, whereas the n-BuOH fraction and extract showed greater inhibition of BChE activity (IC50 55.85 ± 1.01, 59.36 ± 0.76 µg/mL, respectively) than the other fractions. "

Again, I am the exception here and most people probably love shilajit. I love SNS products. Just wanted to give a heads up to people who may be sensitive and didn't realize shilajit contains acetylcholinesterase inhibitors.

I'm not going to derail this thread by discussing an ingredient that it has nothing to do with.

I was simply trying to be helpful.

Different ingredients affect people differently and I say that all the time - so I'm not disputing that Shilajit may affection you in a certain way, but you yourself acknowledge that you're an exception to the norm on that and that you're also sensitive to negative effects associated with higher levels of acetylcholine and therefore may see negative effects from anything that boosts it easier, which also likely means that you have a hyper sensitivity to it being boosted from things that may not in a lot of people.

In my reply where I said:
For Shilajit, its not particularly acetylcholine boosting. I'm not saying that it may not be for you, but just wanted to clarify that for anyone else reading this thread. I'm a big fan of the ingredient itself and think its wonderful for a lot of things, but I wouldn't promote it as an acetyl choline booster, although I've seen that some brands do.

^^^ I was making sure to acknowledge that it may do that for you - but was trying to clarify for anyone else reading the thread that I wouldn't promote it as an acetyl choline booster although some brands do. What I mean by that was that I wouldn't promote it as one - as in saying to buy it for that purpose - as some brands literally spend marketing money and promote it as an acetylcholine booster and I feel that they are trying to oversell the ingredient in that case as it may do so for some people (like yourself) but if I was intentionally trying to increase acetylcholine, it wouldn't be through Shilajit.

I hope that all makes sense. I tend to do clarifying posts to help people that may read threads and not post to understand the context better bc in some cases they may be looking at them months or years down the road.