some of the stupid things people say about working out

I remember when I was around 12 or 13, my mother said she didn't want me lifting weights because "it stunts your growth."

Sigh, if only she knew it increases growth hormone output. She'd have realised theoretically it might be possible for regular, intense weightlifting to INCREASE a developing teenager's height potential.
 
This has nothing to do with working out, but some dude asked for a price check at the dollar store today :wtf:
 
Nullifidian said:
I remember when I was around 12 or 13, my mother said she didn't want me lifting weights because "it stunts your growth."

Sigh, if only she knew it increases growth hormone output. She'd have realised theoretically it might be possible for regular, intense weightlifting to INCREASE a developing teenager's height potential.
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In some of your old post you said you were a fatso back in the day. Did your mom not let you lift/workout at all?
 
spatch said:
In some of your old post you said you were a fatso back in the day. Did your mom not let you lift/workout at all?
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I didn't get fat until college. Though in college I worked out fairly consistantly. It was the college food that got me fat in college. I stayed fat and continued to gain weight after college for a year or so until my brother got engaged and he made me his Best Man. I lost a metric crapton of weight for the wedding.
 
i was sad that after 22 pages of reading this thread came to an end so i have to tell my story. it has to do with creatine. my buddy from high school(in college now) works at a local gnc for the summer. a guy came in and asked about supplements for overall health. my buddy ran through the basics like like a good multi-vit, fish oil and other things of that nature. when he was done the guy who came in was like well i still have more money what can i get? as soon as my buddy mentioned creatine the guy got all upset. he argued that his friends took creatine and "went crazy" i have no idea what that means. but he continued to tell my buddy that creatine is too dangerous for anybody and that he shouldnt be trying to sell it to people. then he dropped all the stuff and walked out of the store saying that he wouldnt buy products from a store that sold steroids. i was in shock cause i was just standing there the whole time.
 
wakex99 said:
i was sad that after 22 pages of reading this thread came to an end so i have to tell my story. it has to do with creatine. my buddy from high school(in college now) works at a local gnc for the summer. a guy came in and asked about supplements for overall health. my buddy ran through the basics like like a good multi-vit, fish oil and other things of that nature. when he was done the guy who came in was like well i still have more money what can i get? as soon as my buddy mentioned creatine the guy got all upset. he argued that his friends took creatine and "went crazy" i have no idea what that means. but he continued to tell my buddy that creatine is too dangerous for anybody and that he shouldnt be trying to sell it to people. then he dropped all the stuff and walked out of the store saying that he wouldnt buy products from a store that sold steroids. i was in shock cause i was just standing there the whole time.
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Id be shocked to. But it's not that surprising that there are people dumb enough to think creatine is a steroid. Some doctors even think that it's a steroid. (pretty sad). The irony is that vitamin D wich is often sold at supp shops is closer to steroids than creatine. Because it actually IS a steroid. I think people mistake anything that helps build muscle with steroids because they dont know the concept of what a "steroid" is or what "anabolic" means. In other words, some people are just retarded I guess.

As for his friend "going crazy" from creatine. Either he's lying out his arse, or he has no idea what his friend really took, or what creatine does. Or the other possibility is that his friend THOUGHT that creatine was supposed to give him "roid rage" and......well..... the placebo can be a powerful thing. Truth is that most people dont "go crazy" from REAL AAS. So I said it before and I'll say it again..... Some people are just retarded I guess.
 
wakex99 said:
i was sad that after 22 pages of reading this thread came to an end so i have to tell my story. it has to do with creatine. my buddy from high school(in college now) works at a local gnc for the summer. a guy came in and asked about supplements for overall health. my buddy ran through the basics like like a good multi-vit, fish oil and other things of that nature. when he was done the guy who came in was like well i still have more money what can i get? as soon as my buddy mentioned creatine the guy got all upset. he argued that his friends took creatine and "went crazy" i have no idea what that means. but he continued to tell my buddy that creatine is too dangerous for anybody and that he shouldnt be trying to sell it to people. then he dropped all the stuff and walked out of the store saying that he wouldnt buy products from a store that sold steroids. i was in shock cause i was just standing there the whole time.
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When I was in high school, there were tons of kids on the football team, whose parent's wouldn't let them take creatine because they were afraid it would cause testicular shrinkage. How's that for ignorance?


On another note, these people have some reason to be supsicious. Back in early 90's (before laws were mandated for supplement companies to list ingredients), several olympic competitors were robbed of medals because they tested positive for illegal substances, even though they swore the only thing they were taking was creatine (which was legal). Granted in 1999, a romanian gymnast lost her gold medal after testing positive supposedly from taking a few Advil Cold & Sinus pills, people have this knack for being ignorant.
 
Once I ran in to this guy that used to live underneath my ex's old apartment, and he said he'd been working out lately and had been "all agro" since he started taking creatine.

He also mentioned he just found out that he's been type 1 diabetic his whole life and has to take 5 insulin shots a day.
Im not sure if he realized that some people use insulin for bodybuilding too, or not though.

I told him that creatine shouldnt have any psychological effect at all, but I dont remember what he said.
 
i had a buddy of mine tell me that taking creatine gave him roid rage. i tried to explain to him that creatine was in no way shape or form a hormone and could not cause "roid rage" since it wasnt a steroid at all. he told me i didnt know what i was talking about.

i know an individual that asks me probably once every two weeks how he can get cut. this guy drinks at least 3 nights a week and rarely attends the gym. he does not pay attention to his diet. his muscle are like rubber. i laid out a weight lifting and cardio schedule for him with a separate portion dicatating what to eat. he took one look at it and was like dude i just want to get cut. he has asked me numerous times if creatine will show up on a test for steroids.

there are no serious gyms in my area, only healthclubs and i belong to one with a pool, basketball courts, locker rooms, etc. there are 5 trainers there, one of which is 17 years old and not certified as of yet.
3 of these trainsers are the definition of douchebag. not particularly in shape, weak, patronizing, ****y as hell, you know the drill. they stand and critique everyone while chuckling, inlcuding the 17 year old who weighs about 180s at 6'2. he is average-a-riffic and has never trained anyone. he gets protein drinks for people
i was doing lat pull downs and one of the older trainers at about 24 came up to me and informed me that i would be much bigger if i did HALF the weight on the lat pulldown. i was around 246lbs at the time and doing the entire stack (i do 6 heavy sets and then drop down). this trainer weighed about 190 at 5'9.
what really irritated me is the 17 year old telling me that i needed to do dumbell curls correctly and "stop working out like an *******". this kid curls 20 and 25's about 10 times in super slow mo. i have never seen the little **** break a sweat.

also these trainers, and i use the word lightly, use excercise balls with every client on every excercise, which usually includes no weights whatsoever whether the individual be 18 or 50. my favorite is the exercise in which they put a mat with 5 circles on the floor and tell people to hop on one foot from spot to spot. the spots are about 6 inches from each other.

i need to take my GABA, WOOSAHHH
 
phasar said:
i'm like starscreen on polluted energon cubes now.
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I heard energon cubes cause cancer in humans.:D

I just remembered the "where are they now" spoof documentary on robot chicken that showed Soundwave after retirement, and he was sayin (in that mechanical voice) you just kinda take it one day at a time and do what you gotta do or some ****, and then he was like. "Excuse me I've got a customer". Then he transformed into a porta-potty for some shmoe that walked by.
Funny ****.
 
jomi822 said:
i had a buddy of mine tell me that taking creatine gave him roid rage. i tried to explain to him that creatine was in no way shape or form a hormone and could not cause "roid rage" since it wasnt a steroid at all. he told me i didnt know what i was talking about. :nutkick:

he has asked me numerous times if creatine will show up on a test for steroids. :nutkick:

3 of these trainsers are the definition of douchebag. not particularly in shape, weak, patronizing, ****y as hell, you know the drill. they stand and critique everyone while chuckling, inlcuding the 17 year old who weighs about 180s at 6'2. he is average-a-riffic and has never trained anyone. he gets protein drinks for people
i was doing lat pull downs and one of the older trainers at about 24 came up to me and informed me that i would be much bigger if i did HALF the weight on the lat pulldown. i was around 246lbs at the time and doing the entire stack (i do 6 heavy sets and then drop down). this trainer weighed about 190 at 5'9.
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:rofl:
 
mr. T was on some tug -o-war competition like a decade ago. and the comentator actually said something to the effect of "well, it's all steroids anyways, it's not real, that's why he lost".
 
phasar said:
mr. T was on some tug -o-war competition like a decade ago. and the comentator actually said something to the effect of "well, it's all steroids anyways, it's not real, that's why he lost".
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He sayed Mr. T was fake AND that he was on AAS?
Mr. T should have kicked his ass. Lol.

"I pity the fool that thinks my foot in his ass is fake."

They are doing reruns of the old Mr. T cartoons from the 80's at like 5 in the morning on adult swim/cartoon net now. I watched it once last week. Funny. All I remembered from when I was a kid is the intro song, and Mr. T breaking the lock off some armored truck with one hand while it was moving. Lol. Too funny man.

You know youve reached success in america when they make a friggin cartoon hero based on you.
 
UnicronSpawn said:
He sayed Mr. T was fake AND that he was on anabolic steroids?
Mr. T should have kicked his ass. Lol.

"I pity the fool that thinks my foot in his ass is fake."

They are doing reruns of the old Mr. T cartoons from the 80's at like 5 in the morning on adult swim/cartoon net now. I watched it once last week. Funny. All I remembered from when I was a kid is the intro song, and Mr. T breaking the lock off some armored truck with one hand while it was moving. Lol. Too funny man.

You know youve reached success in america when they make a friggin cartoon hero based on you.
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true, true...... i still remember him from rocky. he's so predictable. i dont know anybody could communicate with him in the real world.
 
phasar said:
true, true...... i still remember him from rocky. he's so predictable. i dont know anybody could communicate with him in the real world.
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Who knows, his whole "public" persona could be just all an act to sustain the image that got him where he was. I bet alot of celebrities are in that sort of boat. If they "break character" even when their just playing the part of "as his or herself", it could undermine the credibility of their entire gig. Only relatives and close personal friends could know the real deal.

I must be going nuts from sleep deprivation.
It's 5:35 in the freaking morning and Im still awake analyzing the
speculated psychology of Mr. T.

Im going to bed, this is rediculous and probably not even really happening, Im to tired to tell for sure though.
 
thesinner said:
a romanian gymnast lost her gold medal after testing positive supposedly from taking a few Advil Cold & Sinus pills, people have this knack for being ignorant.
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Some cold medicines contain pseudoephedrine which is a banned substance; all ephedrine alkaloids are banned.
 
jomi822 said:
also these trainers, and i use the word lightly, use excercise balls with every client on every excercise, which usually includes no weights whatsoever whether the individual be 18 or 50. my favorite is the exercise in which they put a mat with 5 circles on the floor and tell people to hop on one foot from spot to spot. the spots are about 6 inches from each other.
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I want to take a knife and pop every exercise ball ever created. So annoying. I've worked at a very similar health club, who found it necessary to have a television in the free-weight room. Nothing gets me going for a heavy squat quite like another episode of The Price is Right.
 
Nullifidian said:
Some cold medicines contain pseudoephedrine which is a banned substance; all ephedrine alkaloids are banned.
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I never got that. The purpose of being strict about ergogenic aids is supposedly to make for a "level playing field", yet if you have a cold during the event you have to just suffer through. That hardly seems like a level playing field to me. It's all just a bussiness anyway. WADA only exists because the IOC is convinced that regular people will not take the games seriously if someone in the event has so much as a friggin cup of coffee before the event. Typical lazy american. Sitting on the ass saying, "yeah he set a new record, but it's fake, anyone could do it if they had that psuedo ephedrine junk, but then theyd get roid rage from it and kill themselves. Yep, that's exactly how it works....not some other way.....Nope.......not a chance. Geraldo, Nancy Regan, and McGruff the crime dog told me so, so it HAS to be true, since they are far more reliable experts than that science and medical studies crap."
 
Great thread. I just read through all 24 pages. Over two hours when I should have been working. Good thing I'm the boss. :)

Having just started working out again after about a 25 year layoff and in an attempt to get rid of all the twinkie, Lays, Pepsi, Whoppers, etc. that have accumulated over the years, I'm guilty of a a few of the things mentioned here. Like partial squats/leg presses because my gut getting trapped between my chest and quads if I go too far. :)

OK....here is one I saw just last night. Never seen it before and hope I never see it again. Young lady in less then attractive physical condition wearing shorts that "maybe" Pamela Anderson could get away wearing, working out on the low cable with a T bar with the pin at about the 2nd plate. Pulls out the cable and turns and stradles the cable with it between her legs, bends over with her back to the machine, and starts pulling the cable between her legs and standing upright in the same motion. Well...you'll have to use your imagination from this point on. All I can say is I don't think what that cable was stimulating is actually considered a muscle. :) I'll just bet she's glad the cable wasn't frayed. :D
 
HDLowrider said:
OK....here is one I saw just last night. Never seen it before and hope I never see it again. Young lady in less then attractive physical condition wearing shorts that "maybe" Pamela Anderson could get away wearing, working out on the low cable with a T bar with the pin at about the 2nd plate. Pulls out the cable and turns and stradles the cable with it between her legs, bends over with her back to the machine, and starts pulling the cable between her legs and standing upright in the same motion. Well...you'll have to use your imagination from this point on. All I can say is I don't think what that cable was stimulating is actually considered a muscle. :) I'll just bet she's glad the cable wasn't frayed. :D
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Was this a feeble attempt to kill two birds with one stone? Cable pull-throughs and masturbating?


Typical lazy american. Sitting on the ass saying, "yeah he set a new record, but it's fake, anyone could do it if they had that psuedo ephedrine junk, but then theyd get roid rage from it and kill themselves.
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Yeah, the active component in Nyquil: a performance enhancer. I usually take a couple capfulls of nyquil as a perworkout protocol on leg days. It works so well, I can literally do squats until I pass out on that stuff.
 
thesinner said:
It works so well, I can literally do squats until I pass out on that stuff.
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Which is usually after the first or second rep during the warm-up set when it comes to Nyquil.

I like what Dennis Leary said about it:

"it says 'May cause drowsiness.' What they mean is 'don't make any ****in plans'"
 
thesinner said:
Was this a feeble attempt to kill two birds with one stone? Cable pull-throughs and masturbating?





Yeah, the active component in Nyquil: a performance enhancer. I usually take a couple capfulls of nyquil as a perworkout protocol on leg days. It works so well, I can literally do squats until I pass out on that stuff.
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Yeah you can really knock yourself out when you train all jacked up on nyquil. It's such a potent performance enhancer. When I squat on nyquil I go ass to the floor baby! Without the barbell though. And my ass ussually stays on the floor till they kick me out at closing time.
 
thesinner said:
Was this a feeble attempt to kill two birds with one stone? Cable pull-throughs and masturbating?

If it was I hope she was successful. I know what it did do was kill was my desire to go over and use it without some Lysol or something. It also managed to get just about everyone in the place to stop whatever they were doing and drop their jaw to the ground.
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Nullifidian said:
Which is usually after the first or second rep during the warm-up set when it comes to Nyquil.

I like what Dennis Leary said about it:

"it says 'May cause drowsiness.' What they mean is 'don't make any ****in plans'"
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Ah yes Nyquil. The nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy-head, fever, how the **** did I end up on my kitchen floor medicine.

Lewis Black said something good too:
"Nyquil comes in two colors: red and green. What are those? Christmas colors. That's right, Nyquil makes a dandy egg nog. My friends *****ed through the whole party, "This tastes like ****". But at the end, we had a fun sleepover."
 
UHCougar05 said:
Ah yes Nyquil. The nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy-head, fever, how the **** did I end up on my kitchen floor medicine.

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:icon_lol: :rofl: :toofunny:

"You must spread some reputation around before giving more to UHCougar05."
 
HDLowrider said:
If it was I hope she was successful. I know what it did do was kill was my desire to go over and use it without some Lysol or something. It also managed to get just about everyone in the place to stop whatever they were doing and drop their jaw to the ground.
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You should carry a dildo in your gym bag, just in case she ever beats you to the cable cross, you can offer a trade.
 
You know I just realized I learned something from here and what i saw that lady doing on the cable crossover. So that's called a cable pull through what she was doing? Guess I am an old fart. :) Before starting at it again a few months ago the only thing we had at the gym I last worked out at (early 70's)were dumbells, bars and plates, basic racks, seated calf, rowing, etc. and a few Universal machines I think? My how things have changed since the prehistoric era. :)
 
HDLowrider said:
You know I just realized I learned something from here and what i saw that lady doing on the cable crossover. So that's called a cable pull through what she was doing? Guess I am an old fart. :) Before starting at it again a few months ago the only thing we had at the gym I last worked out at (early 70's)were dumbells, bars and plates, basic racks, seated calf, rowing, etc. and a few Universal machines I think? My how things have changed since the prehistoric era. :)
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At least that's what the exercise sounded like to me. Here's an illustration:
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It's a lower back exercise often times used by people trying to increase their deadlift. I personally don't find it very effective, and don't really care for a taut cable rubbing up against my balls.
 
Yep....That's the one. Except she was raising her arms to horizontal as she stood. Guess she wanted to get the most "stimulation" out of it. :D
 
HDLowrider said:
Before starting at it again a few months ago the only thing we had at the gym I last worked out at (early 70's)were dumbells, bars and plates, basic racks, seated calf, rowing, etc. and a few Universal machines I think? My how things have changed since the prehistoric era. :)
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But those basic tools are still the most effective and versatile ones in any gym IMO. The machines and cables are nice accessories to have for variety, and for the legions of folks that dont want to deal with the much more difficult freeweight alternatives who have in the last 20 years or so become the greater majority of gym goers. With the exception of a couple bodyparts, all the muscle building exercises that work the fastest and stimulate the largest cross-sectional area of the muscle are basic barbell and dumbell exercises.

Lets break it down by body part:
Chest: all the accesory exercises have a place in chest training, but none of them seem to build the same mass and thickness as barbell and dumbell presses from flat incline and decline, and wide grip dips.
(wich kick the crap out of any machine dip I've used.) And dumbell flye movements have shaped some legendary pecs before machine flyes and cable cross.

Back: chinups done correctly w/ various grips and various forms of barbell and db rows will blow up lats quite sufficiently w/ out machine rows and cable pulldowns (wich however can be usefull and fun add ins). Deadlfts and variations of them will involve more muscle than just about any other exercise in creation.

Legs: Barbell squats, and front barbell squats. Need I say more?
However the invention of the 45 degree leg press, and hack machine have proven usefull. And various hamstring curl machines and calf machines have made it easier to develope those muscles than their freeweight alternatives.

Bi's: barbell and dumbell curls done seated or standing or on a preacher (or "scott") bench, or DB incline curls kick the crap out of most curl machines as far as pure mass is concerned.

Tris: Lying barbell or EZ bar ext, over head barbell, dumbell, or EZ bar ext, close grip bench, and narrow grip dips are the basic mass builders. Pushdown and machine extentions are great and Im glad we have them, but they will never pack as much muscle on a person as the aforementioned.

Shoulders: Barbell and Dumbell overhead presses and dumbell raises (lateral, front and rear) along with upright rows are all anyone needs to build great delts. And DB/barbell shrugs are at least as good for traps as any shrug machine I've witnessed.

Moreover, the mahines and contraptions that DO work almost as good as free weights also happen to be the ones that are CLOSER TO being like freeweights than the other machines. IE:plate loaded machines, smyth machines etc.

My point is that the vast majority of the "improvements" in gyms have been to make them look nicer, and make exercise easier and more convenient, but not always more effetive. Because that's what sells memberships. Not saying that being a "regular" member is wrong, just that the gaurd has shifted. Convenience and flashyness has supresceded pure effectiveness.

Sorry for the hijack.
 
I agree 100% Unicorn. When I got back to lifting again a few months ago I didn't even know how to properly use most of the machines they had in the place. Guess I could have asked but I just sat back and watched other people use them and I stayed in the free weight room most of the time.

The sad part is that at least at the "fitness club" I go to the free weight room only takes up about maybe 1/4 of the space with all the rest being taken up with the machines, bikes, treadmills, indoor track, swimming pool, jacuzzi, basketball, racket ball and other stuff. Personally I would have never joined if it was up to me but it was a gift and lifetime membership. (Guess that was a hint to get off my fat ass and get back in shape) :) So I may as well use it.

And actually after getting used to some of the machines I actually like them and they make it easier on old guys like me. I have arth./bursitis in my shoulders, elbows and knees. There are few exercises I can do and use weights heavy enough to work the muscles the way I should because of joint pain. And at least with most of the the machines I can load them heavier and if a joint gives out or colapses all it makes is a big crash but doesn't kill me. I may get strange looks and feel like a fool but at least I'm alive and don't need an ambulance and trip to the ER. :)

I agree with you about the plate machines. I use the Smyth for most of my presses with the exception of DB presses. I also like some of the Hammer Strength machines because I can work each side individually and work easier on laging muscles. Yea....I'm lopsided to. :) I used to bowl semi professionally when I was young and bowled over 100 games a week. This tended to make my right lat much bigger then the left. So basically I look like I lost a wing. :)

This place also has a section with mostly Keiser pneumatic machines. My verdict is still out on them though. Anyone here ever use them or have any opinions on them?

OK...that's enough. Sorry for the long post. I can be full of hot air sometimes. :)

Lou
 
Not real familiar with the keiser product line. I may have used one before and wasnt paying attention to who made it.

I hear you about the joints bro. Im not even 30 yet and Im allready getting knee and shoulder pain on some exercises.

Im definately a believer in those hammer strength plate loaded flat and incline chest presses. They are cool because you push them inward and get a complete contraction. (especially unilateraly) like a cabe cross only better because your pressing. Dumbells can be brought together at the top, but unlike the hammer strength, it takes tension off the pecs when you do that w/ dumbells. So, I do think some of the newer things are cool, but the bread and butter free weight basics still comprise around 95% of the most effective exercises. (from the strength, power, and bodybuilding perspective anyway.) Nothin wrong w/ calisthenics and other forms of fitness, Im just a person who'd rather look like Tony Freeman than like Richard Simmons. Nothin personal against Mr. Simmons.
 
This one is so stupid you might forget to say :wtf:

Idiot- what do you like for legs? Leg press and what not?
Me- I like to stick to the basics, you know? Squats, front squats...
Idoit- squats arent really a leg exercise f you think about it.


... I didnt do much thinking about that i can tell u that much.
 
This isn't something someone said, but I figured that this thread isn't limited to dumb comments anyway.

There's this older guy at my gym, probably early 40's, and he's pretty good sized, but he must take a bath in Ben-Gay, because the whole place starts to reek when he walks in. I swear, it's hard to breathe if he's working out next to you.
 
somewhatgifted said:
how about the classic follow you around guy who does whatever muscle group you do just to show you how tough he is and how he can look like a jack ass lifting weight way to big for him. theres this guy in my gym and he and his buddy were mocking me the other day about how he'll be way stronger than me when hes my size(not to my face but secretly). So i proceed to walk to his incline bench where he was benching and call over my girlfriend to do her warm up sets. lol take that bieotch.
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You can't be seriouse, can you?
 
spatch said:
This one is so stupid you might forget to say :wtf:

Idiot- what do you like for legs? Leg press and what not?
Me- I like to stick to the basics, you know? Squats, front squats...
Idoit- squats arent really a leg exercise f you think about it.


... I didnt do much thinking about that i can tell u that much.
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I'm curious to what he said after that. Did he comment on what squats are for? If he said biceps you should've punched him or wacked him with a barbell plate.
 
AndroAnarchy said:
I'm curious to what he said after that. Did he comment on what squats are for? If he said biceps you should've punched him or wacked him with a barbell plate.
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He said that he usually doesnt do squats and said he sticks to leg presses and extensions. Apparently squats dont work anything :blink:
 
There was an older lad the other day, mentoring some young men on eating and lifting. He said, "Skip one to two meals a day and eat a tin of tuna in place of it and you will swell up". I almost choked on my bloody bottle of water.
 
Irish_Rogue said:
There was an older lad the other day, mentoring some young men on eating and lifting. He said, "Skip one to two meals a day and eat a tin of tuna in place of it and you will swell up". I almost choked on my bloody bottle of water.
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By swell up, could she mean due to sodium bloat?

2 tins of tuna = 1250mg sodium
 
What kind of tuna are you eating?! Mine has 80mg of sodium per 6 ounce can.

EDIT: I mistyped at first, but it took me like 10 minutes to edit because the site wasn't responding.
 
spatch said:
He said that he usually doesnt do squats and said he sticks to leg presses and extensions. Apparently squats dont work anything :blink:
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Well, if squatting is wrong, then I don't want to be right. I love those guys that say they do nothing but leg presses and they see you squat heavy and say "Oh I can do that." or I see them counting the number of plates I have on the bar between sets. Of course, I avoid contact and keep my headphones blaring. People like to talk at the gym, I don't. I came there to work, not to socialize. And the next person I see sitting on a piece of equipment on their cell phone is getting beat with a 45. :duel: :nutkick:
 
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