According to nootropics, many eurycoma doesnt have any eurycomanones per their testing. Will you post COA / % reports.
My reply here isn't specifically to you - I just wanted to emphasize that bc you probably already know a lot of this. I didn't want it to come off as replying directly to you and overexplaining it to you. I hope that makes sense. I'm more posting this to educate the people that don't, like people that may be reading that don't post.
The simple answer to your question is:
The Tongkat we'll be doing will be a licensed branded ingredient so the quality will have been tested and authenticated by both the branded ingredient supplier and by the contract manufacturer per GMP protocols.
To expand on your question and just discuss some QC industry things in detail:
I do agree that there are many brands that claim that their raw materials contain a certain % of Eurycomanone and it doesn't test out. That's why I like to use branded ingredients bc even though you may pay a little more, you know you're getting a consistent percentage of material (not just on this ingredient, but others as well).
In the old days, we did post COA's or lab reports for everything. Now days, there's no way I can keep up with posting COA's and Lab Reports of every batch of every product when we have over 60 sku's and over 20 in various stages of production. There aren't enough hours in the day to do my job as is, and there definitely wouldn't be to do that.
Every single product of ours is made in FDA registered GMP compliant manufacturing facilities. What this means is that they receive FDA inspections and follow all GMP guidelines including microbial testing, heavy metals testing, finished product testing, etc. This is no knock at any other companies, but we're one of the very few on AM that are FDA registered and receive FDA inspections.
^^^ That's one reason that you'll never see me post certain things like you see some companies post. Again, not knocking anyone, just explaining. When a company posts something to consumers like 'we just received raw materials in today and it'll be capped and bottled and ready to order by Friday', what the average consumer sees is 'Yay, I can get my stuff Friday'. What a company owner that uses GMP compliant contract manufacturers sees is 'Wow, that's impossible because it wouldn't even be out of QC by Friday. They aren't doing any microbial testing and aren't following the guidelines, I hope everyone that uses it will be okay. I wonder if its being professionally made or if they're bottling it themselves.' I do believe that not all companies that are doing it that way are doing it trying to hide things; from their side, its time consuming, expensive, decreases their margins, etc. But that doesn't make it any less risky.
I'll also say that what most companies post and claim are COA's aren't worth the paper they're on bc they are things that could be created in a word document or Adobe in less than 5 minutes.
But in fairness to companies that will not post or show real supplier COA's, I don't view that as shady at all because there's an obvious reason that they may not want to that most people don't think about - and that's that they probably don't want their competitors to know where they're buying their raws from and a real supplier COA will have the supplier information on it, not the finished company information on it.
There have been so many cases over the years where I've seen places slip up on a 'COA' and leave things on there that I could tell they were editing them themselves; that's where my policy of never speaking negatively about other brands sometimes can become a real moral and ethical conflict when I see things like that.
I posted an example one time years ago, I wish I still knew where it was but its on an old laptop or something. I had created an example document of a COA for Unicorn Fairy Sprinkles from 100% real Unicorns and harvested by Fairies or something like that just to show how easy it was and how so many companies are full of it. (What was really funny is that I got so many pm's from people that normally don't post that had kids that had printed that and showed their kids for laughs haha).