Not that I have noticed. I do take joint supplements year round (cissus XT, glucosamine, fish oils and turmeric/curcumin).thank you for the info! No joint pain from to much reduce estrogen?
Not that I have noticed. I do take joint supplements year round (cissus XT, glucosamine, fish oils and turmeric/curcumin).thank you for the info! No joint pain from to much reduce estrogen?
Probablyif 2% wrecks my joints, i’m assuming 10% would be worse?
Cool, thanks. How are you cycling or do you just take it without cycling?On 10% ND and no issues to report. Doing 5 days on, 2 days off. 1 a day and I take in the morning.
Just doing 1 cap Mon-Fri, 0 on the weekend. No negative sides to report.Cool, thanks. How are you cycling or do you just take it without cycling?
Sorry, what I meant was do you do this 52 weeks a year or take breaks for a few weeks? Thanks!Just doing 1 cap Mon-Fri, 0 on the weekend. No negative sides to report.
I only started taking this when it first came out at ND. I guess that was maybe Oct or Nov? I forget. But I haven't taken more than 2 days off.Sorry, what I meant was do you do this 52 weeks a year or take breaks for a few weeks? Thanks!
@BigGame84Just doing 1 cap Mon-Fri, 0 on the weekend. No negative sides to report.
Yes, been on it for maybe a month now. I am not a good source for feedback only because I take so many other things. Anyways, I like what I am seeing in the mirror and my performance in the gym so I bought another couple bottles. But take that with a grain of salt.. I am also on BMP, Ursa Major, Follidrone, and some other natty stuff.@BigGame84
Did you start the ripfactore? If so do you have any positive effect yet?
thank you for the honest feedback!Yes, been on it for maybe a month now. I am not a good source for feedback only because I take so many other things. Anyways, I like what I am seeing in the mirror and my performance in the gym so I bought another couple bottles. But take that with a grain of salt.. I am also on BMP, Ursa Major, Follidrone, and some other natty stuff.
It's hard to get right now I think... I was taking Alpha Lion's RipFactor and they are on backorder. So I had to get the more expensive version they have called Alpha Muscle. But I still think you can get the other brand that has it. Haven't looked.thank you for the honest feedback!
That's exactly what I take also for my joints and tendons and I also take Microlactin fromNot that I have noticed. I do take joint supplements year round (cissus XT, glucosamine, fish oils and turmeric/curcumin).
What product?I just purchased a product that contains 800 mg Tribulus (standardized to 45% saponins) and 400mg Longjack (standardized to 100:1) per serving.
It is a product sold by HR (aka Hard Rhino) Supplements called Tribulong.What product?
That's one of the reasons that they have a hard time getting brands to offer it as they are trying to sell it to brands to get them to offer it but then turning around and competing with them themselves. That's long been a reason some companies haven't offered it.HP Ingredients actually sells their own LJ 100 at their shop HP Life Sciences online in case anyone wanted to know. Would be interested in a different extract if SNS brings it
Sure. One of the most reputable vendors. No doubt about the quality of any of their products.Doesnt the place that sells the 10% claim to have COA from the laboratory?
Yes, Nootropics Depot is selling what they claim. You can email them about it.Doesnt the place that sells the 10% claim to have COA from the laboratory?
case in point, OL LJ100 worked great. Nutrex didn’t do sh!t.I tried to read this thread from the beginning, and wow, there's so much misinformation in the first 2 pages I'm not even going to bother to discuss any of it.
LJ100:
- LJ100 is a branded ingredient. Anyone claiming to use LJ100 should be buying and licensing the material from HP Ingredients. If they are not getting it thru them, they are not using real LJ100.
- Now, I'm not saying that LJ100 is better or worse than other types; I'm just saying that LJ100 is LJ100. So if a person experiences results with Brand A's LJ100 and not Brand B's LJ100, something is up with one or the other.
- There are a lot of brands that claim to offer LJ100 that are lying.
There are some good other extracts of Tongkat Ali available. I've researched this ingredient extensively for a long time. We may make an LJ100 because we've been getting asked so much for one; but even if we do, there's another branded type that we are going to be offering as well.
I see some people discussing a supposed 10% Eurycomanone. I'm not saying it isn't or it isn't, but I've had manufacturers of this ingredient tell me that it's actually impossible to get that higher of a % extract without the price being exponentially higher to the point it wouldn't be worth it.
Someone mentioned wanting a good Fenugreek extract to try for libido - stay tuned; you'll be very happy in the next couple months
I like both companies.case in point, OL LJ100 worked great. Nutrex didn’t do sh!t.
If you want some more testing on “them there raws” I would be happy to sample. Tongkat is one herb I constantly take and experiment with. Please do your own and do not go with LJ100. Would love if you could figure out, RIP Powder City’s source. So far that was the best I have tried.That's one of the reasons that they have a hard time getting brands to offer it as they are trying to sell it to brands to get them to offer it but then turning around and competing with them themselves. That's long been a reason some companies haven't offered it.
It's a really good likelihood that we'll be offering a really good Tongkat Ali Extract; its just a matter of timing. We have so many things in production it just kind of keeps getting bumped back. But we already have the raws for it; and at least for me, I was very pleased with it.
If I already had capsulated product in bottles I would, but insurance won't allow us to send out raw material powder because there's no way to know if the person receiving it is going to dose it properly. Plus, all raws are now already at the contract manufacturer.If you want some more testing on “them there raws” I would be happy to sample. Tongkat is one herb I constantly take and experiment with. Please do your own and do not go with LJ100. Would love if you could figure out, RIP Powder City’s source. So far that was the best I have tried.
I don't think you understood my post correctly. I didn't take a shot at anyone; I never say anything negative about competing companies. I was responding at the time to where some posted that they were having negative issues with the 10% and where some people had asked if doing 5x a dose of 2% would equal a 10%.So why did SNS take a shot at saying manufacturing 10% is BS unless the price is much higher? COA vs competing company claiming random sources??
Looking forward to it! Whatever kind of LJ m Test is using, it works.That's one of the reasons that they have a hard time getting brands to offer it as they are trying to sell it to brands to get them to offer it but then turning around and competing with them themselves. That's long been a reason some companies haven't offered it.
It's a really good likelihood that we'll be offering a really good Tongkat Ali Extract; its just a matter of timing. We have so many things in production it just kind of keeps getting bumped back. But we already have the raws for it; and at least for me, I was very pleased with it.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I have heard favorable things about Barlow, but haven't ever used them. If you try them again, please consider posting a log.I just finished running ND TKA 2% extract for 12 weeks 2 caps a day 5 days on 2 days off
and I honestly was NOT impressed I do have a jar of their 10% but I won't be trying that
until much later in the year. I've had OL Lj100 and actually I picked up 9 jars years back when
it was on a bogo deal and that didn't impress me either. I felt maybe a little libido boost but
nothing else also in the past I ran 3 jars of APE which some people loved and that for me
wasn't that great either and they used a different extract of TKA.
I mentioned it before and I'll say it again for me Barlowes 100:1 Long Jack at 1000mg a day
worked the BEST. Good libido, erections, mood, and deeper sleep were all the effects I had
on that one and honestly I was ready to buy it a few months ago until someone jumped in
here and started yelling how good ND TKA was so that's why I tried it but the net time I
decide on TKA I'm going Barlowes and I will run it and review it and see if it's as good now
as it was a couple of years ago when I used it. One other TKA based supplement that has
worked great for me in the past was Diesel Test Hardcore and I know people use to bash
cause it was a prop blend but that blend WORKS! Good libido, erections, sleep, and a bit
of aggression in a good way during your workouts. Whatever extract of TKA that Chuck used
in that formula worked great for me, and no wonder it has AKA Grande Bolas on the label
cause you WILL have Grande Bolas on Diesel Test Hardcore.
That's why I'm saving my ND 10% for MUCH later in the year cause I don't want TWO letI just ran the ND 10% 60 caps....was a letdown for me...Best for me is always the trademarked LJ
I tried to read this thread from the beginning, and wow, there's so much misinformation in the first 2 pages I'm not even going to bother to discuss any of it.
LJ100:
- LJ100 is a branded ingredient. Anyone claiming to use LJ100 should be buying and licensing the material from HP Ingredients. If they are not getting it thru them, they are not using real LJ100.
- Now, I'm not saying that LJ100 is better or worse than other types; I'm just saying that LJ100 is LJ100. So if a person experiences results with Brand A's LJ100 and not Brand B's LJ100, something is up with one or the other.
- There are a lot of brands that claim to offer LJ100 that are lying.
There are some good other extracts of Tongkat Ali available. I've researched this ingredient extensively for a long time. We may make an LJ100 because we've been getting asked so much for one; but even if we do, there's another branded type that we are going to be offering as well.
I see some people discussing a supposed 10% Eurycomanone. I'm not saying it isn't or it isn't, but I've had manufacturers of this ingredient tell me that it's actually impossible to get that higher of a % extract without the price being exponentially higher to the point it wouldn't be worth it.
Someone mentioned wanting a good Fenugreek extract to try for libido - stay tuned; you'll be very happy in the next couple months
I'm always open to ideas as far as what people want.as much as people have asked you to bring different things to the market, would you be willing to source a high quality LJ supplement, or one that is novel, not just LJ100
you tried Barlowes 100:1, why not the 200:1. Get kind of confusing with all the extractsI just finished running ND TKA 2% extract for 12 weeks 2 caps a day 5 days on 2 days off
and I honestly was NOT impressed I do have a jar of their 10% but I won't be trying that
until much later in the year. I've had OL Lj100 and actually I picked up 9 jars years back when
it was on a bogo deal and that didn't impress me either. I felt maybe a little libido boost but
nothing else also in the past I ran 3 jars of APE which some people loved and that for me
wasn't that great either and they used a different extract of TKA.
I mentioned it before and I'll say it again for me Barlowes 100:1 Long Jack at 1000mg a day
worked the BEST. Good libido, erections, mood, and deeper sleep were all the effects I had
on that one and honestly I was ready to buy it a few months ago until someone jumped in
here and started yelling how good ND TKA was so that's why I tried it but the net time I
decide on TKA I'm going Barlowes and I will run it and review it and see if it's as good now
as it was a couple of years ago when I used it. One other TKA based supplement that has
worked great for me in the past was Diesel Test Hardcore and I know people use to bash
cause it was a prop blend but that blend WORKS! Good libido, erections, sleep, and a bit
of aggression in a good way during your workouts. Whatever extract of TKA that Chuck used
in that formula worked great for me, and no wonder it has AKA Grande Bolas on the label
cause you WILL have Grande Bolas on Diesel Test Hardcore.
there seems to be an uptick in interest. i think the time is now...I'm always open to ideas as far as what people want.
We will most likely do an LJ100 because we've been asked by quite a few people to do one.
But we already have a different Tongkat Ali/LJ supplement in the works that we're coming out with. I think it was this thread that I mentioned it in (but maybe not), that I was really impressed with it myself from testing out trying some of the raw materials.
It's hard to give ETA's on stuff right now bc everything in the industry is so backed up, but best guess would be within 8 weeks.
We'll get them going.there seems to be an uptick in interest. i think the time is now...
that’s a very good point on naming. simply using the wrong name can lose sales. Longjack is probably more common but if you’re doing the LJ100, you wouldn’t want them named so closelyWe'll get them going.
For the one type, we already have raw materials. I just hadn't been able to decide what we want to name it. It's a weird case where some people know if as Long Jack, some as Tongkat Ali, and some as Eurycoma. So its like - do we name it Longjack XT, Tongkat XT, Tongkat Ali XT, etc.
For the LJ100, I have the label artwork ready to go to print. We were going to do this a long time ago, but honestly the branded ingredient company ticked me off so I shelved the project.
thank you. SNS boss making me sound like i’m crazy or something. lol. Nutrex did zilcho.Great thread. I liked OJ LJ100 at 3 caps per day. Tried ND's TKA 2% and did not feel anything, unfortunately. I also thought Nutrex TestED did NOTHING; very disappointed. I had better experience with Bluebonnet LJ100.
So I just bought some LJ100 from NRH via the HP LJ100 site: https://lj100.com/where-to-buy/. ...Did I read on here earlier that products from the HP LJ100 site may not be 'legit' LJ100?
HP Ingredients owns the rights to LJ100 so their own should be exactly what its supposed to be.Great thread. I liked OJ LJ100 at 3 caps per day. Tried ND's TKA 2% and did not feel anything, unfortunately. I also thought Nutrex TestED did NOTHING; very disappointed. I had better experience with Bluebonnet LJ100.
So I just bought some LJ100 from NRH via the HP LJ100 site: https://lj100.com/where-to-buy/. ...Did I read on here earlier that products from the HP LJ100 site may not be 'legit' LJ100?
I'm sorry if made you feel that way. That definitely wasn't my intention.thank you. SNS boss making me sound like i’m crazy or something. lol. Nutrex did zilcho.
Yeah, that's what I've been struggling with. The label text has been done for over a month and I've been trying to figure out the best name for it. It's down to LongJack XT, Tongkat XT, and Tongkat Ali XT. I'm leaning toward LongJack XT myself.that’s a very good point on naming. simply using the wrong name can lose sales. Longjack is probably more common but if you’re doing the LJ100, you wouldn’t want them named so closely
no worries on the Nutrex topic. I understand what you’re saying.Yeah, that's what I've been struggling with. The label text has been done for over a month and I've been trying to figure out the best name for it. It's down to LongJack XT, Tongkat XT, and Tongkat Ali XT. I'm leaning toward LongJack XT myself.
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