Hi all,
Currently taking Recomp20 & invictus & thinking about adding in Anabolic XT in a few weeks once my Invictus is finished.
I know there shouldn't be any effect on estrogen levels but could there be any potential increase in DHT levels with Anabolic XT?
Thanks
Thanks Airmanic. I did take a look at the compounds separately and couldnt see anything that indicated a direct or indirect link.There are multiple androgen receptor amplifiers/booster/helpers that take existing testosterone/HGH/IGF-1 for example and utilize more of it at the androgen or respective receptors. Beyond utilizing the bodies own endogenous hormones more efficiently there should be an increase in those hormones as well. Furthermore the actives have support into performance, vitality, virility, etc. Here’s a very simple concept on them. The write up will provide more insight.
E. Ulmoides(phytoandrogen/HGH/IGF-1) SRX10(upregulates LSH and FSH/PDE inhibitor)
Ecklonia Cava(myostatin inhibitor/ACE inhibitor)
SA3X(increased LH/ testosterone)
G70X(promotes better function of androgen receptors)
C30X(HGH/IGF-1)
Black Ginger Extract(PDE-5 inhibitor & increased protein synthesis).
Some of these extracts have positives on hair growth. I’m not sure if that’s your main concern with DHT. If it is I posted two studies. One on Ecklonia Cava and the other on Ginseng. Anytime hormones are increased there’s a risk of downstream effects causing another hormone to rise. I couldn’t find anything in relation to the herbal extracts in Anabolic XT related to an increase of DHT. I personally wouldn’t worry too much about it . I hope this is somewhat helpful and answers your question.
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I am interested in whether any of these compounds work to increase DHT and consequently cause an increase in beard and body hair, irrespective of whether they worsen male pattern baldness.
Well, I am actually really wanting the hair increase.Thats a consequence that I think is going to be unavoidable for myself with this. I always noticed hair growth around my traps and shoulders with any type of over the counter product that even hinted at a slight increase in testosterone and with age, my hair growth has increased in these areas even without taking any hormone increasing supplements whatsoever for many years. My skin tone is similar to yours so I can understand why you may be cautious!!
In that case I imagine it probably wont force any on you if you don't have much body hairWell, I am actually really wanting the hair increase.
ThanksThe discussion of the product on the SNS website claims “Increases in Free & Total Testosterone Levels.” If that is indeed the case then I would expect an increase in DHT levels to some degree.
I am interested in whether any of these compounds work to increase DHT and consequently cause an increase in beard and body hair, irrespective of whether they worsen male pattern baldness.
I'm at the point where I've seen people attempt everything and I'm about 99.9% convinced that no matter how much dht you take, it will only increase body hair. But not facial hair and the hairloss aspect seems to only happen to people who already have a history of baldness in the family. I myself have used mostly dht based cycles over the years. No increase in facial hair and no balding but my body hair grows a little faster and thicker.I am interested in whether any of these compounds work to increase DHT and consequently cause an increase in beard and body hair, irrespective of whether they worsen male pattern baldness.
I have zero signs of MPB and would welcome the body sweater.I'm at the point where I've seen people attempt everything and I'm about 99.9% convinced that no matter how much dht you take, it will only increase body hair. But not facial hair and the hairloss aspect seems to only happen to people who already have a history of baldness in the family. I myself have used mostly dht based cycles over the years. No increase in facial hair and no balding but my body hair grows a little faster and thicker.
I've watched probably 100 ppl over the years, lots in person and lots on this forum attempt all kinds of stuff with dht gel, masteron, testosterone and a million otc products and get no results for facial hair and some of them ending up speeding up the balding process dramatically or growing a body sweater lol
I have zero signs of MPB and would welcome the body sweater.
I fall in the speeding up balding whilst growing a body sweater group. There's no 'or' with meI'm at the point where I've seen people attempt everything and I'm about 99.9% convinced that no matter how much dht you take, it will only increase body hair. But not facial hair and the hairloss aspect seems to only happen to people who already have a history of baldness in the family. I myself have used mostly dht based cycles over the years. No increase in facial hair and no balding but my body hair grows a little faster and thicker.
I've watched probably 100 ppl over the years, lots in person and lots on this forum attempt all kinds of stuff with dht gel, masteron, testosterone and a million otc products and get no results for facial hair and some of them ending up speeding up the balding process dramatically or growing a body sweater lol
Hi all,
Currently taking Recomp20 & invictus & thinking about adding in Anabolic XT in a few weeks once my Invictus is finished.
I know there shouldn't be any effect on estrogen levels but could there be any potential increase in DHT levels with Anabolic XT?
Thanks
There are multiple androgen receptor amplifiers/booster/helpers that take existing testosterone/HGH/IGF-1 for example and utilize more of it at the androgen or respective receptors. Beyond utilizing the bodies own endogenous hormones more efficiently there should be an increase in those hormones as well. Furthermore the actives have support into performance, vitality, virility, etc. Here’s a very simple concept on them. The write up will provide more insight.
E. Ulmoides(phytoandrogen/HGH/IGF-1) SRX10(upregulates LSH and FSH/PDE inhibitor)
Ecklonia Cava(myostatin inhibitor/ACE inhibitor)
SA3X(increased LH/ testosterone)
G70X(promotes better function of androgen receptors)
C30X(HGH/IGF-1)
Black Ginger Extract(PDE-5 inhibitor & increased protein synthesis).
Some of these extracts have positives on hair growth. I’m not sure if that’s your main concern with DHT. If it is I posted two studies. One on Ecklonia Cava and the other on Ginseng. Anytime hormones are increased there’s a risk of downstream effects causing another hormone to rise. I couldn’t find anything in relation to the herbal extracts in Anabolic XT related to an increase of DHT. I personally wouldn’t worry too much about it . I hope this is somewhat helpful and answers your question.
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I am interested in whether any of these compounds work to increase DHT and consequently cause an increase in beard and body hair, irrespective of whether they worsen male pattern baldness.
The discussion of the product on the SNS website claims “Increases in Free & Total Testosterone Levels.” If that is indeed the case then I would expect an increase in DHT levels to some degree.
Thank you for the incredibly well written and detailed answer.
Perfect. Thanks for that. So basically listen to @Airmaniac next time he talks lolNo, there shouldn't be any issues with DHT from Anabolic XT.
@Airmaniac gave a very thorough answer on the ingredients in his post (thank you) and almost anything else I could write would just be repeating some of what he said - but basically, no, there shouldn't be any DHT issues nor any hair loss issues, and there are some ingredients in it that have been shown to help with hair growth and health.
You are absolutely welcome and thank you for the kind words! I’ve read the write up, admittedly, one too many times. It’s a powerhouse of a formula. I’m glad you like it and I hope it provides some answers for the community as well.
Perfect. Thanks for that. So basically listen to @Airmaniac next time he talks lol
Well, I am actually really wanting the hair increase.
Lol will do. Actually one final question if you don't mind. I imagine it really shines during a a calorie surplus but would it still be worth taking in a slight deficit stacked with recomp20?Lmao There’s a ton of people here who know their stuff so I attempt to keep up with them. I’m always happy to be right tooEnjoy your Anabolic XT and post an update with your thoughts
I'm really in the same boat. I am 57 and my head hair is as thick as when I was 12. I want high DHT for virilization, sex drive, and mood enhancement.I have more hair on my head than a man has a right to. DHT? Bring it on!
Probably nothing better for you than some test!I'm really in the same boat. I am 57 and my head hair is as thick as when I was 12. I want high DHT for virilization, sex drive, and mood enhancement.
Lol will do. Actually one final question if you don't mind. I imagine it really shines during a a calorie surplus but would it still be worth taking in a slight deficit stacked with recomp20?
I'm really in the same boat. I am 57 and my head hair is as thick as when I was 12. I want high DHT for virilization, sex drive, and mood enhancement.
Im presuming AXT will be better in a caloric surplus but will it still be benefitcial running it in a deficit?
Lol, that's all good. I suppose if you find what works for you then thats all good. Hope your recomp over the next few months is successful. You replied to a post of mine on another thread where I said recomp 20 and thermo scorch for next 1 month and then stack recomp 20 and AXT after. I think Im going to reverse it. Recomp 20 and AXT for next 2 months, see how that goes and maybe bring in Thermo Scorch after and stack it with recomp 20 if I think I need it. I'll report back at the end or even during. Thanks for your help.It would be beneficial either way.
A lot of the benefits that people see from it apply whether there is a surplus or deficit, but of course the muscle building benefits would probably be more noticeable when in a surplus. But like me for example - I don't actually track calories, I only track protein to make sure I'm getting enough, and I'm focused on recomp and likely will be for the next 6 months because after my accident, I had gained a lot of fat and lost a lot of muscle - and my plan is to run Anabolic XT for at least 16 to 20 weeks.
I hope that helps.
(I'm that frustrating person where when people ask me about my own diet - I explain it like I'm more like the average person that's trying to build muscle and lose fat, but I'm not perfect with tracking things so I've quit trying over the years haha)
Lol, that's all good. I suppose if you find what works for you then thats all good. Hope your recomp over the next few months is successful. You replied to a post of mine on another thread where I said recomp 20 and thermo scorch for next 1 month and then stack recomp 20 and AXT after. I think Im going to reverse it. Recomp 20 and AXT for next 2 months, see how that goes and maybe bring in Thermo Scorch after and stack it with recomp 20 if I think I need it. I'll report back at the end or even during. Thanks for your help.
Sounds tough but the hardest part of coming back from something like that is taking the first steps and you're 40lbs down which is a great accomplishment so you're well on the way there. Little steps at a time and you'll be fineYou're welcome. I'm always glad to help.
And thank you - I hadn't been able to train since my accident in Feb of 2022. I was in a wheelchair for quite some time, and spent a long time learning to walk again; and between that and the depression, just really let myself go. I gained a lot of fat and lost a lot of muscle. And because of my injuries, starting back working out, I have to be super careful and not overdo it. That's why I'm not jumping right into the Anabolic XT + Anabolic Effect + Phosphatidic Acid XT stack.
I started cleaning up my diet in Feb. and so far have lost a little over 40 lbs. and my main part of the fat loss regimen has been Lean Edge, Thermo Scorch, LipoVantage, and GlucoVantage XT. I'm keeping that going, but since just starting back to light training, added in Recomp20, Ecdy-Plex, and Ursa-Gel. Then from there will go into the other stack I have planned.
Diet wise, its just really hard for me to track things like some people do - and when I try and can't, that leads to me just saying screw it and quitting even trying and then normally getting discouraged and eating like crap. So, I keep it simple and don't try to be precise with it. I've actually found that works better for me than when I did try to be super precise - but I think that's because I missed too many meals completely back when tried to be too strict. I work 70+ hours a week and am a single dad on top of it, so for me, a lot of my eating right is living off of protein shakes haha.
Sounds tough but the hardest part of coming back from something like that is taking the first steps and you're 40lbs down which is a great accomplishment so you're well on the way there. Little steps at a time and you'll be fine
I think Im going to stop tracking after summer and just make sure Im getting in enough protein. If I can be more intuitive with it I think that would be better for me.
Haha. Glad you enjoyed it. I'll allow myself a treat but for me its moreso not going out to eat if I have a friend or someone who wants to get food or eat out. Don't get me wrong, most likely I will but first thought will be I dont know what my macros will be. Occasionally I wont just for that reason.
Also like you say, I think I may be shortchanging myself with my diet.
That 90% rule sounds good. Its like I hardly weigh myself anymore as I always end up weighing the same or .5 of a kilo either way from what I did last time. I'm at the same weight now I was at 2 years ago and have never strayed too far away but have definitely lost quite a bit of fat and put on quite a bit of muscle. However if I was just going by my weight it wouldn't tell half the story. The mirror and how my clothes fit tell that story more
Yeah you're right. That might be more suited for the more average facebook crowd lol.I try not to weigh much - its like when I do, I get it in my head mentally and then I start weighing every day and it drives me nuts. Last week, I took some measurements and plan to measure every 4 weeks or so and not weigh for awhile because I know focusing on gaining back muscle, my scale weight will likely jump some and I don't want to get discouraged. I'm like the king of getting discouraged and of self sabotage.
My goal on my regimen now for the next 4 weeks is to eat according to 'feel', make sure I get enough protein, low sugar, but enough quality carbs, then take measurements in 4 weeks before I weigh - and that way, as long as midsection measurement has improved and I look better in the mirror, I hopefully won't be discouraged by what the scale says.
This discussion and things we're talking about is why I don't do a log myself - because the way I do things is so not typical for the average person here on AM, but I think it really does line up with what a lot of average people that want to get in shape but don't completely live the lifestyle do. I getting ready to start a Facebook group for supplement discussion, and thought about doing something in there to log or discuss what I do and my progress. I've had some people here ask me to do one here - but I know a lot of the more hardcore people here would look at it and be life wtf lol.
Yeah you're right. That might be more suited for the more average facebook crowd lol.
Does Recomp20 put you in a deeper sleep? Finding it harder to wake up in the morning but that could also be down to the temperature increase here in the UK and sleeping with the fan on