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Snag gets FINAFLEXed on Road to Nationals

iparatroop said:
Chest and delt striations much more pronounced since last pics. Vascularity improving in the arms (from what I can see in the tri shot). Things going well. Any stubborn areas you have any concern with at this point?
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things going real swell - no complaints!
as far as problem areas..nope, not really..of course the butt I won't be totally enthused about until striations come in, gonna be couple weeks yet before that happens unless I miss my mark, but butt is notably thinned out and quite lean at this point
all about shaping now, shifting my focus from working to failure/explosive yet mind-muscle control, to all slower/contraction-based/no failure/total mind-muscle to nth degree, while getting diet finite/tweaking some structure a tad, and focusing on continued thinning of skin/dialing things in..again no clue what I am in for as far as this combination of anabolics I am running (can only assume I will add some size, even tho I am not training for it) but for all intents and purposes my focus on training for size is over now - all about making this appearance top-notch, and perfecting my posing/stage presence

feeling great, absolutely thrilled in fact with all things right now :)
 
bean5er said:
What is your water intake per day? Curious and what guideline do you advise?

Thanks
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both water and salt have been high entire time, and will continue all the way till final week
~2g water daily I would say is consumption; advise ~1.5g minimum -- and this does not count diet sodas that some like to include in their "hydration" tabulations
 
Finally caught up... All I can say is now I know the true meaning of a 'Finaflex FREAK'...

Awesome work here Snags.. impressive as hell.
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
both water and salt have been high entire time, and will continue all the way till final week
~2g water daily I would say is consumption; advise ~1.5g minimum -- and this does not count diet sodas that some like to include in their "hydration" tabulations
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Thanks my min is 1.5 gal but was told by my old coach that was borderline too much, then I've read 1 gal per 100lbs of bw. Just figured I'd ask
 
bean5er said:
Thanks my min is 1.5 gal but was told by my old coach that was borderline too much, then I've read 1 gal per 100lbs of bw. Just figured I'd ask
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I drink til I'm pissing clear (with a tint of neon from the multi). I've always used that as my guide. Clear piss (Usually 1.5-2g a day keeps me there).
 
Yeah I hit 1.5 as my minimum also. Occasionally I push it to two gallons but only if I am thirstier than usual, or for preparation for water manipulation for a peak week practice or the real deal.
 
iparatroop said:
I drink til I'm pissing clear (with a tint of neon from the multi). I've always used that as my guide. Clear piss (Usually 1.5-2g a day keeps me there).
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Oh you mean Vitamin B pee... that's what I call it anyway. Seems I always get that when taking a vitamin B complex of any kind not just a multi so I assume it is the B vits in the multi doing it too.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Oh you mean Vitamin B pee... that's what I call it anyway. Seems I always get that when taking a vitamin B complex of any kind not just a multi so I assume it is the B vits in the multi doing it too.
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I used to take these vitamin packs called "ultra start" when I worked in the sugar beer fields to get a boost in the morning. They made my piss turn neon. It was real scary at first. Now I just don't care anymore. I've never known what caused that sort of discoloration though. You mention Bs, but when taking Bs alone I don't remember noticing it. Now I wonder. Experiment time.
 
bean5er said:
Thanks my min is 1.5 gal but was told by my old coach that was borderline too much, then I've read 1 gal per 100lbs of bw. Just figured I'd ask
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LMAO! why would certain amount of h2o cause any issues? :p
water is great, flushes toxins out of body..aids in adipose reduction..helps to hydrate muscles/transport nutrients thruout the body/aids in digestion..and: there is a faction of belief that keeping water high (and salt too for that matter) thruout prep helps the peak week process at the end, when these are maneuvered a bit - I personally embrace this philosophy as well
i spose if you were asinine about it and drank it all in a very short timeframe all at once, it would potentially cause issue
no worries at this point - and fyi, my water consumption is high yr-round, min 1.5g every day typically (if not more)

iparatroop said:
I used to take these vitamin packs called "ultra start" when I worked in the sugar beer fields to get a boost in the morning. They made my piss turn neon. It was real scary at first. Now I just don't care anymore. I've never known what caused that sort of discoloration though. You mention Bs, but when taking Bs alone I don't remember noticing it. Now I wonder. Experiment time.
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is definitely vitamins/minerals being excreted as cause here - and typically it is excess/unabsorbed B vits that are specific cause, or substandard & poor sources/forms of these vits
 
wasme said:
Finally caught up... All I can say is now I know the true meaning of a 'Finaflex FREAK'...

Awesome work here Snags.. impressive as hell.
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You only worked that out now bro? Hahah
 
EBF_2356 said:
You only worked that out now bro? Hahah
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he's canadian

wasme said:
Never seen Snags in action.. lol
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I been around, just took you awhile to find me :D
only gonna get more crazier over these next 4 weeks - hang tight! :woohoo:


aaand another carb meal in the books, yummy..cals will drop to 2350 tomorrow, carbs raised slightly/protein lowered slightly/fats lowered very slightly (am already pretty low)..figured i'd kick off the next segment a day early, take this thing to new heights (again)
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
he's canadian

I been around, just took you awhile to find me :D
only gonna get more crazier over these next 4 weeks - hang tight! :woohoo:

aaand another carb meal in the books, yummy..cals will drop to 2350 tomorrow, carbs raised slightly/protein lowered slightly/fats lowered very slightly (am already pretty low)..figured i'd kick off the next segment a day early, take this thing to new heights (again)
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Nice man. Getting ready to smash my carb meal as well....waited all week for these oats lol
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
he's canadian

I been around, just took you awhile to find me :D
only gonna get more crazier over these next 4 weeks - hang tight! :woohoo:
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Yes sir! Actually born in England (moved to Canada at the age of 4) but Canadian.

From what I have witnessed so far, the next 4 weeks are going to be intense.
 
wasme said:
Yes sir! Actually born in England (moved to Canada at the age of 4) but Canadian.

From what I have witnessed so far, the next 4 weeks are going to be intense.
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ahh very cool..and I do not have anything at all against Canadians my friend, simply all in good fun
I mean nothing by it


eh
:D


anyway: my lone update for the day is -
my gawwd, I am thick today! of course carb meal last night helped, but dropping cals today + going to less strenuous training parameters (so to speak anyway - the strain just becomes a bit different focus, is all), you wouldn't think I would gain 1lb o/n (weight 191 this morning), and maintain 2lb increase at this comparative point in day, from where I am usually at right now (currently 196)..
full, yet lean..veiny as all hades..just solidifying things right up here
I think the trenavar/epi is gonna take me to levels I could not anticipate in my wildest dreams..we'll see, but I am pretty convinced already
 
I almost mentioned this in MY log, but its sponsored so I didn't wanna step on any toes. But I'm excited.
 
Hyde said:
Remember that time you were gonna get your Pro card in like 4 wks?.... Oh wait, that time is NOW :)
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:hammer:

bean5er said:
We are all so fukcing excited for you snags!
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thanks man - trying hard to maintain my even keel, still long way to go and need to maintain that even approach thru all this, savor the experience..
but, I cannot help but be a lil excited here :)

TheSaiyan said:
Ordering the Pom poms now
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Exciting times indeed. Things have been going to well and I understand that you have to keep even and focused which can be hard sometimes. You seem to be very keyed in though.
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
ahh very cool..and I do not have anything at all against Canadians my friend, simply all in good fun
I mean nothing by it


eh
:D
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Oh I know Snags.. no worries bro.

Stoked to see how this plays out in 4 weeks. I sense nothing but amazing things and a f**king pro card coming your way
 
thanks for the continued big support and confidence all! continues to mean a lot to me

@ wasme - YES! pro card looking very attainable at this point

@ chefbo - yup montego got you covered with the answer, is Aug 30/31 - 2013 IFBB NORTH AMERICAN CHAMPIONSHIPS





getting ready to run some fasted-upon-rising cardio here this morning, otherwise an off day (may mow the yard later, doesn't really need it but it will in a few days, so wth)..weight popped back to 190, this morning upon rising
everything still going excellently gents - may (or may not) post up full body posing pics today, since my son is here to snap the cam (he is sleeping the morning away currently cuz he stayed up way late last night)
:rolleyes:
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
thanks for the continued big support and confidence all! continues to mean a lot to me

@ wasme - YES! pro card looking very attainable at this point

@ chefbo - yup montego got you covered with the answer, is Aug 30/31 - 2013 IFBB NORTH AMERICAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

getting ready to run some fasted-upon-rising cardio here this morning, otherwise an off day (may mow the yard later, doesn't really need it but it will in a few days, so wth)..weight popped back to 190, this morning upon rising
everything still going excellently gents - may (or may not) post up full body posing pics today, since my son is here to snap the cam (he is sleeping the morning away currently cuz he stayed up way late last night)
:rolleyes:
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How is the epi / tren treating you, compared to the mechabol earlier on......

190? means your getting more shredded day by day....so exciting to follow this prep so close, hopefully(but I would rather say definitely) resulting in a pro card....yeah buddy.
 
edje007 said:
How is the epi / tren treating you, compared to the mechabol earlier on......
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well, I try not to compare, because they are extremely different compounds, that promote different results..that said: because I am swapping things in & out generally in overlapping fashion, but yet have isolated most things before the "effective point" comes into play, combined with my detailed and controlled approach to everything else that has left me in superb condition -- yes I can see and isolate the differences so to speak, in what these have done for me (and keep in mind, I have run either hi-dose 1-andro or hi-dose 1-alpha, or a combination of the two in hi-dose fashion, all along and especially during my methylated compound use timeframes, as my "test base"..let me say off the top, both of these have proven to be effective products, for my chosen function of what I have them there for)

to answer: because they promote some things differently, it is really not fair to say "they provide different results", however mechabol (or methylclostebol) was very effective at the dosage I ran it, provided pretty immediate bodycomp changes, more muscular appearance, veins really got pronounced quickly, and over a 3-week period effectiveness never waned
compared to the tren/epi combo now ~1 week in: didn't quite notice these as quickly (ramping up dosage still) but am now seeing the same things, maybe a little less veiny from these directly at this point, but the musculature stands out even in the early going, great gains at no expense to continued leaning, I think potentially could/will build more muscle vs the mechabol, just a more solid and detailed look, and not getting in the way of my desired dry overall look that I am after

again I reiterate: I do think my current combo is more potential for larger muscle growth, than the previous mechabol I ran - and keep in mind, I am not even trying to accrue muscle at this point, the focus is all elsewhere
hope that helps for comparison!
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
well, I try not to compare, because they are extremely different compounds, that promote different results..that said: because I am swapping things in & out generally in overlapping fashion, but yet have isolated most things before the "effective point" comes into play, combined with my detailed and controlled approach to everything else that has left me in superb condition -- yes I can see and isolate the differences so to speak, in what these have done for me (and keep in mind, I have run either hi-dose 1-andro or hi-dose 1-alpha, or a combination of the two in hi-dose fashion, all along and especially during my methylated compound use timeframes, as my "test base"..let me say off the top, both of these have proven to be effective products, for my chosen function of what I have them there for)

to answer: because they promote some things differently, it is really not fair to say "they provide different results", however mechabol (or methylclostebol) was very effective at the dosage I ran it, provided pretty immediate bodycomp changes, more muscular appearance, veins really got pronounced quickly, and over a 3-week period effectiveness never waned
compared to the tren/epi combo now ~1 week in: didn't quite notice these as quickly (ramping up dosage still) but am now seeing the same things, maybe a little less veiny from these directly at this point, but the musculature stands out even in the early going, great gains at no expense to continued leaning, I think potentially could/will build more muscle vs the mechabol, just a more solid and detailed look, and not getting in the way of my desired dry overall look that I am after

again I reiterate: I do think my current combo is more potential for larger muscle growth, than the previous mechabol I ran - and keep in mind, I am not even trying to accrue muscle at this point, the focus is all elsewhere
hope that helps for comparison!

190? means your getting more shredded day by day....so exciting to follow this prep so close, hopefully(but I would rather say definitely) resulting in a pro card....yeah buddy.
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I ran epi with stano 2 years ago. Epi was pretty amazing, got me some more size, stano, well maybe helped with lethargy a bit.

Interested in tren, maybe some time in the future, with epi and 1-andro/1-alpha, as a 'test' base.

Last weeks bro....you got this!!! You're going to show everybody what being a freak is all about....

so cold standing in your shadow....lol
 
edje007 said:
so cold standing in your shadow....lol
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even my shadow is cut and chiseled
:p
nah bro - you have nothing (and I mean NOTHING) to feel bad about it, sheesh
great and awesome build you have accrued, it is obvious you hold your own very well
always impressed with you :)
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
even my shadow is cut and chiseled
:p
nah bro - you have nothing (and I mean NOTHING) to feel bad about it, sheesh
great and awesome build you have accrued, it is obvious you hold your own very well
always impressed with you :)
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I am also edge, you're back is just nuts for width and you have gotten way thicker. We can't compare ourselves to others we have to say to ourselves do I look better than I did this time last year or do I look better than my lost contest. We are all on our own journey. I personally know I will never look like Steve, I'm too old and don't have the size without heavy performance enhancement. It doesn't mean I can't be a better Doug and that's what keeps me going. This way of looking at things has already taken me to places I never thought I could go. Just keep getting better edge you're awesome and you are a great guy and a great dad I am sure.
 
DreamWeaver said:
I am also edge, you're back is just nuts for width and you have gotten way thicker. We can't compare ourselves to others we have to say to ourselves do I look better than I did this time last year or do I look better than my lost contest. We are all on our own journey. I personally know I will never look like Steve, I'm too old and don't have the size without heavy performance enhancement. It doesn't mean I can't be a better Doug and that's what keeps me going. This way of looking at things has already taken me to places I never thought I could go. Just keep getting better edge you're awesome and you are a great guy and a great dad I am sure.
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Thanks DW.....you're absolutely right.

I'm happy with myself, just saying snags looks amazing, and a real example.

So are all my brother freaks, just like you...all in their own way an inspiration, and giving me more motivation.

Being part of this team has definitely had a huge positive impact on me!!!

Brothers in IRON!!!
 
edje007 said:
Thanks DW.....you're absolutely right.

I'm happy with myself, just saying snags looks amazing, and a real example.

So are all my brother freaks, just like you...all in their own way an inspiration, and giving me more motivation.

Being part of this team has definitely had a huge positive impact on me!!!

Brothers in IRON!!!
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agreed I am happy for Steve and I draw tons of inspiration from him. I have always had the drive but the knowledge he brings is something that cannot be denied. He has a ton of drive as well. I have only known one other person who is in the same category with their attention to diet. Just think what he will accomplish he's going up against people who likely have years of hard use under there belt with a few mild orals and I know he will make a fight of it. Just that alone is remarkable. If he wins then that is even a greater accomplishment.

What an eye and attention to detail you have Steve, every adjustment you make turns out golden.
 
DreamWeaver said:
agreed I am happy for Steve and I draw tons of inspiration from him. I have always had the drive but the knowledge he brings is something that cannot be denied. He has a ton of drive as well. I have only known one other person who is in the same category with their attention to diet. Just think what he will accomplish he's going up against people who likely have years of hard use under there belt with a few mild orals and I know he will make a fight of it. Just that alone is remarkable. If he wins then that is even a greater accomplishment.

What an eye and attention to detail you have Steve, every adjustment you make turns out golden.
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That too....it's bizar what most guys at amateur levels take these days.
Even guys who don't compete....boys at my gym, 16year olds on a couple of different steroids at the same time.....no wonder I feel small half of the time;)


Snags is amazing, with such little 'help'..., just training to the max, diet on point, and consistancy through out the years....

I salute you
 
edje007 said:
That too....it's bizar what most guys at amateur levels take these days.
Even guys who don't compete....boys at my gym, 16year olds on a couple of different steroids at the same time.....no wonder I feel small half of the time;)


Snags is amazing, with such little 'help'..., just training to the max, diet on point, and consistancy through out the years....

I salute you
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Yep he spent years getting to know how to do things the right way before he started taking anything. Too many people start using stuff too early and they don't know where the drugs end and they begin.
 
thanks guys - always appreciate the compliments ;)
and ed - yeah, it has long been my belief that one should max out all natural potential FIRST, and have a firm grasp/understanding on nutrition most of all (but training parameters specifically conducive to their own bodies - not jut what they read in some magazine) before they take the next step to hormonal aids
just what I believe in, like I believe the sun will rise again tomorrow morning :)
I cannot make it any simpler than that
but - truth be told here, no I am not doing injectables (do not feel I am ready for that step, myself..someday, I am sure I will be), don't short-change the products I AM using right now..i feel these, trenavar and epi, are 2 of the most powerful oral steroids in existence - tren especially, straight progesterone, doesn't get anymore wicked than that
but they give so many "diversive" results you hear about, simply because ppl are using them who don't have a clue not only what to do with them, but the training/dietary accompaniment that NEEDS to go with them, in order to maximize the potential one can truly realize from these things
so you get guys running around say they got water accrual and looked soft, while on orals that do not produce that of themselves - rather the crappy ass diet they roll with is THE CAUSE pure & simple..they just do not get it
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
thanks guys - always appreciate the compliments ;)
and ed - yeah, it has long been my belief that one should max out all natural potential FIRST, and have a firm grasp/understanding on nutrition most of all (but training parameters specifically conducive to their own bodies - not jut what they read in some magazine) before they take the next step to hormonal aids
just what I believe in, like I believe the sun will rise again tomorrow morning :)
I cannot make it any simpler than that
but - truth be told here, no I am not doing injectables (do not feel I am ready for that step, myself..someday, I am sure I will be), don't short-change the products I AM using right now..i feel these, trenavar and epi, are 2 of the most powerful oral steroids in existence - tren especially, straight progesterone, doesn't get anymore wicked than that
but they give so many "diversive" results you hear about, simply because ppl are using them who don't have a clue not only what to do with them, but the training/dietary accompaniment that NEEDS to go with them, in order to maximize the potential one can truly realize from these things
so you get guys running around say they got water accrual and looked soft, while on orals that do not produce that of themselves - rather the crappy ass diet they roll with is THE CAUSE pure & simple..they just do not get it
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Here here!
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
sneak peek

that's all you guys get, for now :D
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Ok so one I agree with the post on hormones 100% and am doing that myself.
I hate when children jump on things that they have no concept of.. But as stated earlier this is the majority of people these days, they want results now.


two,

The separation and thickness in those quads are RIDICULOUS.

Adductors are thick.

Just a liiiiittle more sweep. (not being negative-you're on a whole other level than me and I don't have room to criticize, it's just one BB to another my friend)
 
aceroni said:
Ok so one I agree with the post on hormones 100% and am doing that myself.
I hate when children jump on things that they have no concept of.. But as stated earlier this is the majority of people these days, they want results now.


two,

The separation and thickness in those quads are RIDICULOUS.

Adductors are thick.

Just a liiiiittle more sweep. (not being negative-you're on a whole other level than me and I don't have room to criticize, it's just one BB to another my friend)
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you can say whatever you like bro - free will, and all that
(whether I pay any attention to it or not or find validity in it at all, is a whole nother story) :D
but you bud - I have long been impressed with you and your insight, and your own accomplishments; you are very intuitive and see things very well - I commend you for that!
case in point - you are entirely correct here, on my sweep..comparatively speaking, I have none lolol
alas, I try to maximize the things I do have, with the (somewhat limited) equipment I have..there is only so much I can accomplish; conditioning while great and contributing to the rest, will also be slightly detrimental in the appearance of "fullness"..3% is pretty damn low, and depleted
I guess it is just something I am not specifically focused on, feeling good about everything else that is a strong point for me..thank you for your keen contribution ;)
 
Looks like Dusty Hanshaw will be at the same event. Different weight class though :p
 
Montego1 said:
Looks like Dusty Hanshaw will be at the same event. Different weight class though :p
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interesting
yeah that dude is a beast - since I have yet to build things back up, I haven't even come close to peeking on size yet, I feel
but whether i'm in depleted state or not - that dude looks great..makes me feel rather small
 
1-alpha is a phenomenal base product for a longer run with multiple compounds involved, IMHO. Worked excellent in my last cycle, which ended up being a methyl bridge over 7 total wks. It's also easily the best 1dhea product I've used yet.

If anyone was on the fence about it here :)
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
interesting
yeah that dude is a beast - since I have yet to build things back up, I haven't even come close to peeking on size yet, I feel
but whether i'm in depleted state or not - that dude looks great..makes me feel rather small
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It's all iForce products, brah ;)
 
Hyde said:
1-alpha is a phenomenal base product for a longer run with multiple compounds involved, IMHO. Worked excellent in my last cycle, which ended up being a methyl bridge over 7 total wks. It's also easily the best 1dhea product I've used yet.
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truth

Hyde said:
It's all iForce products, brah ;)
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I don't care what it is - it's much more than any one thing he is doing, no matter what you wish to refer to
give the man props, well done
 
aceroni said:
Ok so one I agree with the post on hormones 100% and am doing that myself.
I hate when children jump on things that they have no concept of.. But as stated earlier this is the majority of people these days, they want results now.


two,

The separation and thickness in those quads are RIDICULOUS.

Adductors are thick.

Just a liiiiittle more sweep. (not being negative-you're on a whole other level than me and I don't have room to criticize, it's just one BB to another my friend)
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Instead of rep im giving you a virtual hug :) this is so true, no one has patience to work for their muscle mass anymore. Its synthetic this, synthetic that, no motivation for proper diet, consistency, and training. Sh1t its a fun ride and all people like that do is just ruin it, for example the 1,3 dimeth debate.... idiots who take 12 scoops of jack3d are obviously going to die. common sense helps as well.
 
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