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Looking for a whole food snack other than nuts/seeds. Not into shakes due to insulin response.
 
randysavage said:
greek yogurt
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Gives me bloating... I am a paleo advocate and trying to minimize fructose due to it's transportation to the liver.
So a nut/dairy/ fruit free snack lol
 
My wife makes these little turkey balls that have a few veggies and seasoning in them. They're delicious.
 
Itsmeshelly1 said:
zucchini slices!!! Perfect snack food. I eat one everyday at work. Nice crunch and taste.
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Recipe?
 
Diabolik said:
My wife makes these little turkey balls that have a few veggies and seasoning in them. They're delicious.
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Sounds bloody good man
 
runner_79 said:
Not into shakes due to insulin response.
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que?

Just about all foods are going to illicit an insulin release. Insulin isn't some big bad monster that you need to avoid, just learn to control.

Diabolik said:
My wife makes these little turkey balls that have a few veggies and seasoning in them. They're delicious.
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Can you post or PM me a recipe please? Last time I Friedel make eatballs myself they didn't come out too good :(

Itsmeshelly1 said:
zucchini slices!!! Perfect snack food. I eat one everyday at work. Nice crunch and taste.
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I used to slice them up, drizzle EVCO and spilled some salt, cayenne pepper and/or red pepper flakes and bake em. A nice replacement for fries
 
runner_79 said:
Looking for a whole food snack other than nuts/seeds. Not into shakes due to insulin response.
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your seriously worried about insulin responce from a whey shake?

please.

first of all not only carbs stimulate insulin but fat does too via GIP... Protein would be the best to have. inbetween.

if your really that worried just have some leucine inbetween meals. but you think insulinogenic... yea it is but only in presence of glucose.

snacks are for children.

eat meals.2-3 of them a day. if you need a snack in between your not eating enoough
 
ssbackwards said:
first of all not only carbs stimulate insulin but fat does too via GIP...
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Please elaborate on how fat stimulates a insulin response?

From what I seen it either has no effect on insulin or slows & delays the response but it doesn't have any real direct effect on insulin.
 
Diabolik said:
What else is there? Low sodium beef jerky?
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this was going to be my suggestion... I love me some jerky.

the only other alternative would be some cheap but effective protein bars.
 
JudoJosh said:
Please elaborate on how fat stimulates a insulin response?

From what I seen it either has no effect on insulin or slows & delays the response but it doesn't have any real direct effect on insulin.
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Via stimulation of Gastric inhibitory polypeptide...

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at work sorry cant be more thrurough

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Ok so my wife got the recipe from Jamie Eason, didn't wanna steal credit. Here it is so everybody can see it.

Ingredients:
  • 2 lbs ground turkey (or chicken)
  • 3 egg whites
  • 1 cup quick cooking oats
  • 1/2 tsp ground cumin
  • 1/2 tsp dried thyme
  • 2 tsp dry yellow mustard
  • 2 tsp black pepper
  • 2 tsp chipotle pepper spice
  • 1 tsp salt
  • 2 tbsp garlic powder (2 cloves minced)
  • 1 small onion (finely chopped)
  • 2 celery stalks (finely chopped)
Directions:
  1. Preheat oven to 375 degrees.
  2. Spray muffin pan with canola or olive oil.
  3. Mix all your ingredients together in one large bowl.
  4. Roll the mixture into balls and place in muffin pan. Muffins should be about the size of a racquetball.
  5. Bake for 40 minutes.Makes 12 muffins.

    Serving Size:
    Women: 2 muffins
    Men: 4 muffins


    Calories:     80
    Fats: 2 grams
    Carbs: 4 grams
    Protein: 11 grams




 
Diabolik said:
Ok so my wife got the recipe from Jamie Eason, didn't wanna steal credit. Here it is so everybody can see it.

Ingredients:

[*]2 lbs ground turkey (or chicken)
[*]3 egg whites
[*]1 cup quick cooking oats
[*]1/2 tsp ground cumin
[*]1/2 tsp dried thyme
[*]2 tsp dry yellow mustard
[*]2 tsp black pepper
[*]2 tsp chipotle pepper spice
[*]1 tsp salt
[*]2 tbsp garlic powder (2 cloves minced)
[*]1 small onion (finely chopped)
[*]2 celery stalks (finely chopped)
Directions:

[*]Preheat oven to 375 degrees.
[*]Spray muffin pan with canola or olive oil.
[*]Mix all your ingredients together in one large bowl.
[*]Roll the mixture into balls and place in muffin pan. Muffins should be about the size of a racquetball.
[*]Bake for 40 minutes.Makes 12 muffins.

Serving Size:
Women: 2 muffins
Men: 4 muffins


Calories: 80
Fats: 2 grams
Carbs: 4 grams
Protein: 11 grams
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I follow paleo so no grains for me but would they hold if I didn't have oats in it?
 
ssbackwards said:
your seriously worried about insulin responce from a whey shake?

snacks are for children.

eat meals.2-3 of them a day. if you need a snack in between your not eating enoough
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This is a ridiculous response in my opinion. Snacks are for children? Seriously?

2-3 meals isn't good for cutting or bulking. If cutting, you should eat 5-6 small meals throughout the day to help speed up metabolism and if bulking, you should eat 5-6 meals a day to constantly keep fueling your muscles to fight catabolism. Some of those meals can be considered "snacks". It's not like we're talkin' about lunchables or something here.
 
Diabolik said:
Ok so my wife got the recipe from Jamie Eason, didn't wanna steal credit. Here it is so everybody can see it.

Ingredients:

[*]2 lbs ground turkey (or chicken)
[*]3 egg whites
[*]1 cup quick cooking oats
[*]1/2 tsp ground cumin
[*]1/2 tsp dried thyme
[*]2 tsp dry yellow mustard
[*]2 tsp black pepper
[*]2 tsp chipotle pepper spice
[*]1 tsp salt
[*]2 tbsp garlic powder (2 cloves minced)
[*]1 small onion (finely chopped)
[*]2 celery stalks (finely chopped)
Directions:

[*]Preheat oven to 375 degrees.
[*]Spray muffin pan with canola or olive oil.
[*]Mix all your ingredients together in one large bowl.
[*]Roll the mixture into balls and place in muffin pan. Muffins should be about the size of a racquetball.
[*]Bake for 40 minutes.Makes 12 muffins.

Serving Size:
Women: 2 muffins
Men: 4 muffins


Calories: 80
Fats: 2 grams
Carbs: 4 grams
Protein: 11 grams
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I've never made it but I've watched the video a lot....
 
runner_79 said:
I follow paleo so no grains for me but would they hold if I didn't have oats in it?
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Yeah it should be fine man, I'm pretty sure the egg is what holds it together. You can tweak the recipe to your liking. I personally hate onions and wouldn't mind making it extra spicy but she makes it so I let her do her thing lol.
 
mattrag said:
I've never made it but I've watched the video a lot....
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Would Jaime be the reason for watching it lol...she is quiet attractive
 
Diabolik said:
Yeah it should be fine man, I'm pretty sure the egg is what holds it together. You can tweak the recipe to your liking. I personally hate onions and wouldn't mind making it extra spicy but she makes it so I let her do her thing lol.
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Nice!!!
Can use any lean meat mince like grass fed beef and kangaroo?
 
runner_79 said:
Would Jaime be the reason for watching it lol...she is quiet attractive
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You know it!
Haha. Yea I watch all her vids when I'm bored and on bb.com for motivational vids etc. Lol. She's hot. Just don't tell the wife.
 
Diabolik said:
This is a ridiculous response in my opinion. Snacks are for children? Seriously?

2-3 meals isn't good for cutting or bulking. If cutting, you should eat 5-6 small meals throughout the day to help speed up metabolism and if bulking, you should eat 5-6 meals a day to constantly keep fueling your muscles to fight catabolism. Some of those meals can be considered "snacks". It's not like we're talkin' about lunchables or something here.
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hmm... show me a study showing eating 5-6 meals a day fight catabolism, and show me a study saying it speeds metabolism.

short term overfeeding speeds metabolism..theres a study on that.

also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?

dont think so.
 
ssbackwards said:
hmm... show me a study showing eating 5-6 meals a day fight catabolism, and show me a study saying it speeds metabolism.

short term overfeeding speeds metabolism..theres a study on that.

also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?

dont think so.
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In a 16 hour day (8hr sleep) that would be 5-6 meals paco...

Do the math before you post this gibberish thinking your schooling someone, you just negated your own post.

Edit: there's tons of info showing multiple smaller meals increase metabolism and require less insulin secretion evening out bs levels.... Also if one is carb cycling or restricted in their diet this will actually help increase insulin sensitivity and give the pancreas a break....

Read up on the subject.
 
Frank Reynolds said:
I think you are misreading what he is saying, as that didn't negate his point at all..
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Frank,

He said 2-3 meals....

Then he said every 2-3 hours (that's 5-6 meals in a normal day)...

I am posting from my phone so I might have mixed something up but isn't that negating oneself?
 
ssbackwards said:
hmm... show me a study showing eating 5-6 meals a day fight catabolism, and show me a study saying it speeds metabolism.

short term overfeeding speeds metabolism..theres a study on that.

also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?

dont think so.
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You are the only person I've seen say that eating 2-3 meals a day is a good thing. Food is digested in about 2 hours so if you're bulking wouldn't you want to continuously have food in your body so it doesn't feed on your muscles for fuel. This is common knowledge, I'm not gonna waste my time finding an article about it.
 
Sourdough said:
Frank,

He said 2-3 meals....

Then he said every 2-3 hours (that's 5-6 meals in a normal day)...

I am posting from my phone so I might have mixed something up but isn't that negating oneself?
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Please, read it YET AGAIN..

He is ASKING a loaded question:

"also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?"

To which in his opinion, the answer is NO.

He is making a point for LESS feedings, and NOT eating every 2-3 hrs.
 
Frank Reynolds said:
Please, read it YET AGAIN.. He is ASKING a loaded question "also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?" to which his opinion, the answer is NO.

He is making a point for LESS feedings, and NOT eating every 2-3 hrs.
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Understood, sarcasm is hard to detect on the internet sometimes, thank you for catching his witty response and bring it to my attention.

I still disagree with his sentiments and think rating more often has greater metabolic effects.
 
Frank Reynolds said:
Please, read it YET AGAIN.. He is ASKING a loaded question "also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?" to which his opinion, the answer is NO.

He is making a point for LESS feedings, and NOT eating every 2-3 hrs.
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Understood, sarcasm is hard to detect on the internet sometimes, thank you for catching his witty response and bring it to my attention.

I still disagree with his sentiments and think eating more often has greater metabolic effects.
 
Frank Reynolds said:
Please, read it YET AGAIN..

He is ASKING a loaded question:

"also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?"

To which in his opinion, the answer is NO.

He is making a point for LESS feedings, and NOT eating every 2-3 hrs.
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A little bit of proper grammar on his part would have clarified things.
 
Diabolik said:
You are the only person I've seen say that eating 2-3 meals a day is a good thing. Food is digested in about 2 hours so if you're bulking wouldn't you want to continuously have food in your body so it doesn't feed on your muscles for fuel. This is common knowledge, I'm not gonna waste my time finding an article about it.
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Really? There is a whole thread devoted to this, just a few below this one. The whole premise of IF is 2-3 meals a day. I think it is pretty effective, although on an all out bulk, I am still undecided.

Sourdough said:
I still disagree with his sentiments and think eating more often has greater metabolic effects.
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You are entitled to your opinion.

I can say I am in my best shape, at my heaviest, eating like that, and I have dieted down, just about every way imaginable.
 
Thats awesome... but 9 out of 10 personal trainers, in the gym and across the web would surely disagree....

Its good it worked for you though...

Not every key unlocks every door...

Everyone is unique.
 
Sourdough said:
Thats awesome... but 9 out of 10 personal trainers, in the gym and across the web would surely disagree....

Its good it worked for you though...

Not every key unlocks every door...

Everyone is unique.
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Lol gym trainers..

I never said anything in regards to it being the only way. In fact your original statement sounded like you think 5-6 meals is the only way.

I am of the mindset "you don't know until you try it" I experiment a lot with nutrition, and an not so quick to write things off. I think this style of eating has merit for certain individuals.
 
Frank Reynolds said:
Really? There is a whole thread devoted to this, just a few below this one. The whole premise of IF is 2-3 meals a day. I think it is pretty effective, although on an all out bulk, I am still undecided.
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I didn't see that thread. I have heard of intermittent fasting, I have a good friend that does it. I didn't know that's what SS was talking about, if in fact that's what he was talking about. If it was what he was talking about then he should have stated it. Either way, I just don't like the idea of not putting fuel and nutrients in my body for a long while when I'm trying my hardest to build muscle.

I was more arguing against plain old eating 3 meals a day.
 
Sourdough said:
In a 16 hour day (8hr sleep) that would be 5-6 meals paco...

Do the math before you post this gibberish thinking your schooling someone, you just negated your own post.

Edit: there's tons of info showing multiple smaller meals increase metabolism and require less insulin secretion evening out bs levels.... Also if one is carb cycling or restricted in their diet this will actually help increase insulin sensitivity and give the pancreas a break....

Read up on the subject.
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info isnt studies,

your mis interpreting .......

eating is eating. theres always small amounts of insulin secretion via the GIP (Gastric inhibitory polypeptide). so, beta cells are still stimulated. Thus leptin is being stimulated, higher occurance for leptin/insulin resistance to occur. go back to school "PACO".

2-3 MEALS not eating every 2-3 hours.

you want you pancreas to "reload" as insulin is secreted in 2 bursts in every meal. burst 1 the stored "prepared" insulin burst 2 insulin that has to be made.

if you pancreas hasnt reloaded its forced to continuously make TOO much insulin.

hence the lows after a couple hours people get.

does it have to be intermittent fasting im talking about ... no.

Generally as long as calories get in for a bulk doesnt matter if its one meal or 10. however the LESS you have (especially while eating carbs) the better for your pancreas.
 
ssbackwards said:
Generally as long as calories get in for a bulk doesnt matter if its one meal or 10. however the LESS you have (especially while eating carbs) the better for your pancreas.
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This makes no sense to me. Again, if you eat 2000-2500 cals in one sitting, it's going to be digested in a few hours and the body will feed on it's own stores for fuel until you put food back in your body. And the intensity of the workouts increases the body's demand for fuel.
 
Diabolik said:
This makes no sense to me. Again, if you eat 2000-2500 cals in one sitting, it's going to be digested in a few hours and the body will feed on it's own stores for fuel until you put food back in your body. And the intensity of the workouts increases the body's demand for fuel.
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its not all digested in a few hours protein takes extremely long to digest as does fat and carbs slowing down digestion even more.

8 oz chicken breast can take up to about 6 hrs to digest.
 
I don't think so. You have something wrong with your digestive system if it takes 6 hours to digest an 8oz chicken breast.
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ssbackwards said:
Via stimulation of Gastric inhibitory polypeptide...

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at work sorry cant be more thrurough

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ssbackwards said:
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discussion session...

and this ones just nice to read.

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Thank you

Diabolik said:
Ok so my wife got the recipe from Jamie Eason, didn't wanna steal credit. Here it is so everybody can see it.

Ingredients:
  • 2 lbs ground turkey (or chicken)
  • 3 egg whites
  • 1 cup quick cooking oats
  • 1/2 tsp ground cumin
  • 1/2 tsp dried thyme
  • 2 tsp dry yellow mustard
  • 2 tsp black pepper
  • 2 tsp chipotle pepper spice
  • 1 tsp salt
  • 2 tbsp garlic powder (2 cloves minced)
  • 1 small onion (finely chopped)
  • 2 celery stalks (finely chopped)
Directions:
  1. Preheat oven to 375 degrees.
  2. Spray muffin pan with canola or olive oil.
  3. Mix all your ingredients together in one large bowl.
  4. Roll the mixture into balls and place in muffin pan. Muffins should be about the size of a racquetball.
  5. Bake for 40 minutes.Makes 12 muffins.

    Serving Size:
    Women: 2 muffins
    Men: 4 muffins


    Calories:     80
    Fats: 2 grams
    Carbs: 4 grams
    Protein: 11 grams
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Awesome thanks for this! Ima try it out sometime next week

Sourdough said:
Thats awesome... but 9 out of 10 personal trainers, in the gym and across the web would surely disagree....

Its good it worked for you though...

Not every key unlocks every door...

Everyone is unique.
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9 out of 10 personal trainers would also tell you dietary fat is bad for you.

Just because the majority of people say it, it doesn't make it right or even logical.
 
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