strategicmove
Legend
Looking forward to your feedback.
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
DreamWeaver
Legend
Fedex Priority :bandit: It's going to cost quite a bit to ship it anyways so I just get large orders. Yah less than 20 hours to my door.
DreamWeaver
Legend
ok taste... can you say lemon, damn strong strong lemon taste. I get a sense of somethng real nasty tasting down underneath but the extra lemon is there to keep under wraps I assume... Does not tast as good as Jacked by any means, but who really gives a rats rear...
There is a definite non-stim focus/energy about the product can't wait to try it with jacked today in about an hour... will be back with news later.
There is a definite non-stim focus/energy about the product can't wait to try it with jacked today in about an hour... will be back with news later.
rob561
Member
any after taste?
borobulker
Well-known member
I will agree with this, 100%. I can smell/taste something lurking and i think it is Leucine... Keep in mind, this is a 'bulk' products. The flavoring is a bonus!
Cant wait to use this at the Gym tonight...
PS - Just dosed 3 Refresh w/ 2 Recreate upon waking on an empty stomach - Standby for feedback.
Guest
Guest
Do me a favor and use 4 refresh caps with DominATP but DO NOT use Jack3d...please report back..
Did you recieve the secret supplement I sent you?
rxp1997
Active member
Guest
Guest
yes
ozarkaBRAND
Well-known member
Keep it up with the awesome formulations USP. These are by far my favorite USP Labs products thus far!
PS. Jack3d just rocks.. oh soo good.
PS. Jack3d just rocks.. oh soo good.
borobulker
Well-known member
FYI - Just mixed 1 scoop DominATP with 2 scoops Jack3d. Mixed well, tasted no different than conventional Jack3d. Dosed 4 Refresh. - Ready to rock and roll...
strategicmove
Legend
Yes. You can vary the dose, nevertheless, if you are taking another pre-workout supplement, such as Jack3d.
strategicmove
Legend
I started Jack3d (the old formula) on Monday (this week) with one-and-a-half scoops only. Mind-blowing! Focus. Clean, durable energy. Lasting intensity. Explosiveness. Jack3d muscles. Honestly, I had my reservations before I tried it, as I usually responded negatively to Creatine Monohydrate. To my pleasant surprise, there were no GI challenges in sight with Jack3d. Really awesome! I tried two scoops today, after one-and-a-half scoops daily from Monday to Thursday, and the intensity was unmistakeable. I think I will be using two scoops henceforth. Not sure, if I can buy some DominATP, because I just placed on order at NutraPlanet a few days ago (and shipping to Europe is not peanuts), but I am sure Jack3d and DominATP will stack really nicely. :dl:
So, let's hear how you rocked and rolled!
borobulker
Well-known member
I started Jack3d (the old formula) on Monday (this week) with one-and-a-half scoops only. Mind-blowing! Focus. Clean, durable energy. Lasting intensity. Explosiveness. Jack3d muscles. Honestly, I had my reservations before I tried it, as I usually responded negatively to Creatine Monohydrate. To my pleasant surprise, there were no GI challenges in sight with Jack3d. Really awesome! I tried two scoops today, after one-and-a-half scoops daily from Monday to Thursday, and the intensity was unmistakeable. I think I will be using two scoops henceforth. Not sure, if I can buy some DominATP, because I just placed on order at NutraPlanet a few days ago (and shipping to Europe is not peanuts), but I am sure Jack3d and DominATP will stack really nicely. :dl:
So, let's hear how you rocked and rolled!
My pre-workout supplement protocol:
2 scoops of Jack3d
1 scoop of DominATP
4 Refresh
2 SuperCissus Rx
During Training -
3 scoops of DominATP
VERY different feeling that anything i have ever tried before... I was pretty aggressive toward the weight. I saw almost zero lactic acid build-up, which is normally pretty excessive for me. It was almost like a numbing/pump effect over my muscles. They snapped very well while doing my dynamic box squats. I did 12 sets of 225+Bands(Greens+Purples+Blacks) for 2 reps each. My focus was very high and thankfully very pleasant. My breaks between sets were significantly shortened, i felt like i could just get right back under the weight.
Another aspect that I am not 100% sure about was that of Thermogenesis. I felt as if my core temp had risen and I was sweating after some brief warm-ups. Maybe Jacob can help me with this one.
I honestly, really liked the stack. I will experiment further with this protocol and report.
:spam:
JudgementDay
Legend
I am very jealous, I can't wait to try this, next time I order. I think it would be a very nice addition to my Prime, Powerfull, P-slin and Jack3d stack. :sly:
Guest
Guest
Bacopa has some research indicating an increase in thyroid output accompanied by the release of epinephrine from jack3d creates a sweaty borobulker,,,yucky.
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
That was his 1st dose, so if the bacopa does lead to an increase in thyroid output, boro you may be in for even more sweating
jmh80
Well-known member
You want me to try that before my chest workout today Jacob?
How many Dominatp scoops??
Guest
Guest
DreamWeaver
Legend
No I have not received it yet I'm so excited....
I will be sure to try this on Monday...
My workout on Jacked and DominATP/Refresh was fantastic I will get back with details later...extra focus was definitely there. Oh and I was doing hardcore front squats....
jmh80
Well-known member
I likes, Jacob. I likes alot.
Only problem is that my stomach has been upset for like 2 days (WTF??) but the pump was really freaking good - chest still feels bigger this morning.
I think I'd characterize strength on this as more weight per exercise rather than more weight per set. Know what I mean?
I was able to lift more on the 3 incline sets than I have probably ever (but was 5 lbs lower than my max - when I do max the weight on subsequent sets really falls off, not with Dominatp+Refresh).
I don't notice anything from Bacopa that is groundbreaking in terms of body temperature any longer as I've taken so many USP products. But I will try this with Recreate for a workout. :moon:
Like I said - I likes alot. Will be buying moar. And will combined with Jack3d for more funs. :bb:
Only problem is that my stomach has been upset for like 2 days (WTF??) but the pump was really freaking good - chest still feels bigger this morning.
I think I'd characterize strength on this as more weight per exercise rather than more weight per set. Know what I mean?
I was able to lift more on the 3 incline sets than I have probably ever (but was 5 lbs lower than my max - when I do max the weight on subsequent sets really falls off, not with Dominatp+Refresh).
I don't notice anything from Bacopa that is groundbreaking in terms of body temperature any longer as I've taken so many USP products. But I will try this with Recreate for a workout. :moon:
Like I said - I likes alot. Will be buying moar. And will combined with Jack3d for more funs. :bb:
Guest
Guest
Refresh(this nourishes the CNS/Adrenals while providing focus) and DminATP is a cumulative stack so day 14 is better than day 1 for sure..
Jack3d is instant gratification.
jmh80
Well-known member
Yeah I can see that based on the ingredients. I don't need motivation (via Jacked) I just sometimes need some pep after 11 or 12 hours of engineering (during the week).
Ima be running this every workout for sure until I finish the Refresh/Dominatp.
borobulker
Well-known member
Interesting. I will update after I hit the gym today and let you know.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Ok so I said I'd be back with details... sorry it took so long busy weekend.
I really noticed the synergy using this with refresh and Jacked. The focus was unbelievable as well as the raw power I had. I hammered my legs so hard that I could hardly walk all weekend. Gratifying is the word I will use to describe the way I felt after literally crushing every exercise that I did. This is a heavy leg day combined with core training so there is a lot of intensity and stamina required so the sups really fit the bill.
I will try it with 4 refresh and DominATP tonight sans he jacked. It will be a real test cuz I am a little weary from the weekend and have not worked out without jacked for a while now. Should be very interesting.
Just a note to say that the products Jacob is putting out right now are literally changing the rules. For the first time since I have started training I can put on mass without gaining much fat and or decrease fat without losing muscle hek I can decrease fat and gain muscle at a significant rate. These products will blow away any plateau you may be on. I have and will give a lot more detail in my log which is it's last week. There is a link in my signature if your interested.
I really noticed the synergy using this with refresh and Jacked. The focus was unbelievable as well as the raw power I had. I hammered my legs so hard that I could hardly walk all weekend. Gratifying is the word I will use to describe the way I felt after literally crushing every exercise that I did. This is a heavy leg day combined with core training so there is a lot of intensity and stamina required so the sups really fit the bill.
I will try it with 4 refresh and DominATP tonight sans he jacked. It will be a real test cuz I am a little weary from the weekend and have not worked out without jacked for a while now. Should be very interesting.
Just a note to say that the products Jacob is putting out right now are literally changing the rules. For the first time since I have started training I can put on mass without gaining much fat and or decrease fat without losing muscle hek I can decrease fat and gain muscle at a significant rate. These products will blow away any plateau you may be on. I have and will give a lot more detail in my log which is it's last week. There is a link in my signature if your interested.
Guest
Guest
We have a few more in the works that will break the rules and a few other basics done differently and even bringing back some old ones with a new twist.
For me PRIME-AP-DominATP-Refresh has training hard and recovering like a beast...
Off of Jack3d just to avoid the speed of the supplement, I had been using since beta testing...it was time to relax into muscle gains
!
DreamWeaver
Legend
We have a few more in the works that will break the rules and a few other basics done differently and even bringing back some old ones with a new twist.
For me PRIME-AP-DominATP-Refresh has training hard and recovering like a beast...
Off of Jack3d just to avoid the speed of the supplement, I had been using since beta testing...it was time to relax into muscle gains
What I may do is go off the jacked during the week and save it for the weekends when I'll hit myself with the whole works. Just for a while.
DreamWeaver
Legend
I just took the DominATP with 4 Refresh, the experiment was to see how the new compound works without the stim...
At first it was kind of strange there was definitely some kind of focus but I was so calm that my trainees thought there was something wrong... during the workout it was more and more obvious that I had everything except the stim... The power and focus were still there but the crazy energy was not. There was still enegy and stamina but much quieter.
At the end of it all I still did the same workout and with the same intensity. It's nothing like using all 3, that is the ultimate but it is a good replacement for jacked on it's own. I will definitely use this to take breaks from stim. I will still use all 3 on weekends though.
At first it was kind of strange there was definitely some kind of focus but I was so calm that my trainees thought there was something wrong... during the workout it was more and more obvious that I had everything except the stim... The power and focus were still there but the crazy energy was not. There was still enegy and stamina but much quieter.
At the end of it all I still did the same workout and with the same intensity. It's nothing like using all 3, that is the ultimate but it is a good replacement for jacked on it's own. I will definitely use this to take breaks from stim. I will still use all 3 on weekends though.
dinoiii
Featured Author
Blue Print was "formulated" by Joey (sort of, actually Joey and Mark Tallon began looking into the compound some long time ago - please read the article entitled..."Beyond Arginine" which was written by both of us which traces the particular ingredient back much further - its combo with R-ALA was Joey's idea, but the ingredient wasn't synthesized by us or anything, so I think there is some confusion about what it means to "formulate"), however, the Agmatine research is what I did and fortunately was colleagues with a couple of the prominent figures in. NO ONE has EVER done the extensive work I did in 2007 on this compound nor put all of its metabolic effects in any kind of readible fashion (and I am certain it won't be surpassed by default alone).
A product is only as good if anyone knows what the hell to do with it. As for the USPlabs product in question as this is their thread, I do NOT believe 500mg to be an adequate dose for many of the effects you would try and illicit from a oral standpoint (recall that most research is done through IV studies). Through time, as people age, their relative polyamine synthesis declines and 500mg may become "ok" but really, I'd shoot for a minimum of double that. With time, the cost of this ingredient is likely to approximate that of other polyamines like citrulline, ornithine, and arginine.
When I got on board with Joey, I designed studies to play this out and see what a weight-trained individual would need. We went up as high as 3 and 4 grams with some to illicit true ergogenesis, but the minimal effective dose in many sat about 1 gram (under and you tended to get no response), the dose-response curve is relatively linear for age as well starting at that dose.
If there is ever confusion about my role in anything, I am more than happy to clear things up for anyone, but I would likely ask to keep it off other company's promotional threads out of sheer professionalism.
Thanks,
D_
DreamWeaver
Legend
Second time out with no Jacked... just the DominATP and Refresh.
I definitely felt good focus, I don't know how to describe it but I was slowed down and I was really experiencing incredible contractions. It's like I could work the target muscle group more efficiently. Remember I said how trashed my muscles were after Mondays workout. I am experiencing the same thing now.
I definitely felt good focus, I don't know how to describe it but I was slowed down and I was really experiencing incredible contractions. It's like I could work the target muscle group more efficiently. Remember I said how trashed my muscles were after Mondays workout. I am experiencing the same thing now.
strategicmove
Legend
Update? :food:
borobulker
Well-known member
I have been loving it Ike... Last Friday I nailed a PR of 440# on the bench and some other big lifts...
As a matter of fact, I just dosed 4 w/ my Jack3d!
MK9
Member
I noticed my concentration, and focus were spot on, and recovery was good, endurance was good, trained with intensity, good form, did a little roughnecking which was good.
I basically train for 2 hours a night doing Judo, and sparred the entire randori (freestyle) session.
My dosage was 1.5 scoops domain ATP and I spiked it with aniracetam at ~700 mg's pre-training w\3 Refresh and Post workout was 1.5 scoops of Domain ATP, extra BCAA's at 4.8grams, and 2.4 grams L-GLutamine, ended the night with bulk-carboxy and slept like a baby, and awoke refreshed? LOL! Ok.. no pun intended, but very good overall.
**Keep in mind I eat very well, and I have been making some nice gains weight wise**
I am playing with the dosage scheme however. I have intense 45 minute circuit training Mon\Wed\& Fridays, so today I will try something different dosage wise and report.
MK9
I basically train for 2 hours a night doing Judo, and sparred the entire randori (freestyle) session.
My dosage was 1.5 scoops domain ATP and I spiked it with aniracetam at ~700 mg's pre-training w\3 Refresh and Post workout was 1.5 scoops of Domain ATP, extra BCAA's at 4.8grams, and 2.4 grams L-GLutamine, ended the night with bulk-carboxy and slept like a baby, and awoke refreshed? LOL! Ok.. no pun intended, but very good overall.
**Keep in mind I eat very well, and I have been making some nice gains weight wise**
I am playing with the dosage scheme however. I have intense 45 minute circuit training Mon\Wed\& Fridays, so today I will try something different dosage wise and report.
MK9
DreamWeaver
Legend
My dosing for my leg day is 3 DominATP, 4 Refresh and 2 scoops of jacked. The results are dynamite focus and high energy but more controlled.
strategicmove
Legend
This protocol makes me salivate! :food:
strategicmove
Legend
Bump!
DreamWeaver
Legend
Wow lets hand it to DominATP and Refresh... let me play it out for you. I was on a low carb daying facing a higher volume workout. I was pretty depleted so I was hoping the supps would see me through. I was strong and seemed to be doing better on my second and third sets, this continued throughout the workout. It was strange cuz I felt tired but when I sucked it up for the next set the strength and stamina was just there. 90 minutes of steady lifting. Not only was I low on the carb side but I popped an AP before the workout. I gotta tell you I was pleasantly surprised...
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
DreamWeaver
Legend
You've got me excited for mine
Yah I was really expecting to crap out... nice surprise..
monstermash
Well-known member
bump for sloppy seconds.....
strategicmove
Legend
Thanks! :thumbsup:
DreamWeaver
Legend
I am loving this stuff more and more.. I take it on workout days only and it really enhances my performance without the stimiulation. I only use jacked on my sunday morning workout now with the DominATP .. that's just crazy...
strategicmove
Legend
When you use DominATP other than on Sundays, do you stack it with any other creatine product or just solo?