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noot

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Considering getting the MST's ZMK since the reviews state that there are some nice sleeping improvements with it. Are there any other related stuff that, I guess, are more potent or something. I have tried their Somnidren-GH, and while my experience was great from what I remember it seems a bit pricey and the stuff did not last that long, maybe a week or two.

Is there any similar and or stronger? Pretty tough semester with the classes and all, so I would really like to take advantage of as much sleep as I will be able to get.

Preferable nothing vitamin-related, I don't have a lot of time to wait and have the effects built up over many months, so preferable something that can start working on the first doses.

Basically, looking into getting the ZMK. Anything else better that I should get instead?
 
noot said:
Considering getting the MST's ZMK since the reviews state that there are some nice sleeping improvements with it. Are there any other related stuff that, I guess, are more potent or something. I have tried their Somnidren-GH, and while my experience was great from what I remember it seems a bit pricey and the stuff did not last that long, maybe a week or two.

Is there any similar and or stronger? Pretty tough semester with the classes and all, so I would really like to take advantage of as much sleep as I will be able to get.

Preferable nothing vitamin-related, I don't have a lot of time to wait and have the effects built up over many months, so preferable something that can start working on the first doses.

Basically, looking into getting the ZMK. Anything else better that I should get instead?
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Why not try a natural Growth Hormone booster like IGF-2? Or something like Lipotrophin-PM - that really helped me re sleep quality when I first started using it. There's also things like Melatonin or sleep medication. In the end though, you want to get something that is going to help you in the progress of your goals as well as for sleep benefits.

~Rosie~
 
^^^ melatonin should work immediately, get it at nutraplanet or even someplace like costco or sams club.
 
Need2Sleep has worked well for many...here is a review from today

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I had an amazing sleep stack going using GHenerate, EndoAmp and melatonin. Pretty much knocked me out every night in minutes.
 
3mg Melatonin + 1gram of valarian root has me knocked out for good.. both dirt cheap. You can get a 2 month supplement of both at walmart for like 10 bucks total.

Mike
 
I just take some ZMA and some Knockout, together they work absolute wonders.
 
bakerderek0 said:
I've been taking nyquil on the really bad nights
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dont do that, just get some unisom or some off brand unisom. it has the same active ingredient (Doxylamine) as nyquil, will cost less, and you wont be taking in the unneeded acetaminophen and DXM.

works great, i stack it with melatonin.
 
heebs10 said:
dont do that, just get some unisom or some off brand unisom. it has the same active ingredient (Doxylamine) as nyquil, will cost less, and you wont be taking in the unneeded acetaminophen and DXM.

works great, i stack it with melatonin.
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Good info, I'll check it out
 
I like primordial performance dream tea, very effective and subtle, add some melatonin if needed. Add ghenerate for the best nights sleep you've ever had.
 
noot said:
Considering getting the MST's ZMK since the reviews state that there are some nice sleeping improvements with it.
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This is so strange... I JUST bought and started using ZMK this weekend as part of my cycle, due to the P-5-P and minerals to support health muscular contraction etc, but I never even thought about the sleep properties.

I JUST HAVE to say something here, and it's totally honest and I'm NOT in any way exaggerating. I have been taking 10mg Melatonan, 1g GABA, and 4 caps ZMK before bed, and I slept THROUGH my alarm, and A SERIOUS storm all in the last few days. It's been surreal, I'll sleep through anything and only wake up if my bladder is about to explode.

The good news, is even though I slept through the alarm, I still somehow got to work on time, AND after a shower I feel awake and enegetic - not groggy.

Need 2 Sleep by NTBM was the only other thing in concert with GABA I took a couple months ago that gave me this mummified feeling.

I don't often 'advertise' for other companies unless I really feel the product workout, but let me say ZMK is a great addition to any athlete's protocol. I remember when VPX used to have a Mineral complex, that was something awesome too for sleep and recovery/test support. What was that called?
 
Outstanding said:
This is so strange... I JUST bought and started using ZMK this weekend as part of my cycle, due to the P-5-P and minerals to support health muscular contraction etc, but I never even thought about the sleep properties.

I JUST HAVE to say something here, and it's totally honest and I'm NOT in any way exaggerating. I have been taking 10mg Melatonan, 1g GABA, and 4 caps ZMK before bed, and I slept THROUGH my alarm, and A SERIOUS storm all in the last few days. It's been surreal, I'll sleep through anything and only wake up if my bladder is about to explode.

The good news, is even though I slept through the alarm, I still somehow got to work on time, AND after a shower I feel awake and enegetic - not groggy.

Need 2 Sleep by NTBM was the only other thing in concert with GABA I took a couple months ago that gave me this mummified feeling.

I don't often 'advertise' for other companies unless I really feel the product workout, but let me say ZMK is a great addition to any athlete's protocol. I remember when VPX used to have a Mineral complex, that was something awesome too for sleep and recovery/test support. What was that called?
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Seriously, 10mg of melatonin?! Geez, the 3mg in one N2S cap is all I need and not the recommended 2, so I guess I'm lucky.
 
kanakafarian said:
Seriously, 10mg of melatonin?! Geez, the 3mg in one N2S cap is all I need and not the recommended 2, so I guess I'm lucky.
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It comes in 10mg capsules, I don't take three or mega-dose on purpose, haha. I'm sure 3mg would also work, but the brand I buy comes in these dosages.
 
heebs10 said:
dont do that, just get some unisom or some off brand unisom. it has the same active ingredient (Doxylamine) as nyquil, will cost less, and you wont be taking in the unneeded acetaminophen and DXM.

works great, i stack it with melatonin.
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Thats exactly what I was going to say, everytime I read someone say nyquil, I tell them just get the Doxylamine succinate (unisom in the usa)
 
RoadBlocK said:
Thats exactly what I was going to say, everytime I read someone say nyquil, I tell them just get the Doxylamine succinate (unisom in the usa)
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I agree its great stuff for sleep. If you're going the anti-histamine route, benadryl is another (yet weaker) option.

I've noticed high doses of L-theanine and L-tryptophan improve sleep immensely without any "hangover" feeling.
 
Need2sleep, ph glutamine or NAG and some Blue growth. I personally like need2sleep and Blue growth. I am testing NAG at night now too. Other than the fact that I get crazy leucid dreams when stacked the two its awesoe.
 
quigs said:
I agree its great stuff for sleep. If you're going the anti-histamine route, benadryl is another (yet weaker) option.

I've noticed high doses of L-theanine and L-tryptophan improve sleep immensely without any "hangover" feeling.
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Good tips, cant be the trypo either for quality sleep.
 
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