SHBG/Nettle supplements discontinued??.....

Is there a reason why Athletix Division 1 and MN Test factor original are discontinued? It was weird that when I went to look for them, both were gone at the same time. Unleashed is still available though....wasn't sure why a proven and successful product (for both free test AND reduction in hair shedding) was discontinued by two companies, found that odd.
 
I don't think Test factor was a great seller for them but Im sure there are many others still using the ingred

Yeah people are retarded in that regard, if it doesn't "do something" obvious and quick, then they feel its for shyt. If they went to the lab and got blood drawn and saw that their free test doubled or tripled, then they'd understand what the product does...its not like the other test factor product with DAA that provides increases in total test. Then again it looks like they got rid of BOTH products :D nettle and DAA versions. But those were the three most well known products from good solid companies....test factor OG, Unleashed, and Division 1 (THE most affordable by far). Now two of them are gone, struck me as VERY odd....but maybe its as you say, people don't appreciate the supplement and they don't buy it.
 
I'm sure there are other companies still using it.

I worry about the quality of some of these companies though....like I stated above, these other 3 companies are legit in my eyes....some others are just random companies that I don't know if I can trust or not. Best bet might be to go to VS or GNC and use their standardized extract stinging nettle if they have one available.
 
I worry about the quality of some of these companies though....like I stated above, these other 3 companies are legit in my eyes....some others are just random companies that I don't know if I can trust or not. Best bet might be to go to VS or GNC and use their standardized extract stinging nettle if they have one available.

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It was released this past March IIRC.

I'll def pick some up at NP since my MN test factor is running out. I wonder if you could get away with 4 caps per day, 2 morn and 2 night, as opposed to 2 caps X 3 per day? I use it almost all year, with some 2 week or so mini-breaks, since it works well with TRT...as well as helps greatly keeping hair on your head...and it gets expensive if you take 6 or more caps per day.
 
I'll def pick some up at NP since my MN test factor is running out. I wonder if you could get away with 4 caps per day, 2 morn and 2 night, as opposed to 2 caps X 3 per day? I use it almost all year, with some 2 week or so mini-breaks, since it works well with TRT...as well as helps greatly keeping hair on your head...and it gets expensive if you take 6 or more caps per day.

How large of a dose do you typically use?
 
How large of a dose do you typically use?

I gotta check my MN TF bottle to see how it compares cap to cap I guess. Don't have the division 1 bottle here anymore, but I can check online of course to compare.
 
MN TF has 175mg of urtica dioica extract per cap and the endosurge turbo has 266mg of extract per cap, so 4 endosurge should be sufficient I believe. I do not know how the two extracts stack up head to head, but I assume the are of similar potency.....
 
MN TF has 175mg of urtica dioica extract per cap and the endosurge turbo has 266mg of extract per cap, so 4 endosurge should be sufficient I believe. I do not know how the two extracts stack up head to head, but I assume the are of similar potency.....

Yeah, 4 definitely sounds like it would be more than enough. For what you're looking for you might be able to just use 3.
 
Yeah, 4 definitely sounds like it would be more than enough. For what you're looking for you might be able to just use 3.

I like that idea, it would save me some serious moola over a 365 day period :D
 
I'd recommend OP you go have a look at barlowes herbal elixirs site.... They have nettle high potency with 300mg of 95% 3'4 divanil per capsule.
Plus their track record is quite reputable.
It is way cheaper than buying a formula with fancy labels and other ingredients u may not need, particularly if you are only looking for bulk divanil.

Just my 2 cents
 
Test factor was my favorite test booster of all time. I think Test Factor was reformulated about three years ago and changed to Test Factor Advanced. For some reason that version never took off.
 
Test factor was my favorite test booster of all time. I think Test Factor was reformulated about three years ago and changed to Test Factor Advanced. For some reason that version never took off.

I just tried Test Factor advanced not to long ago. It was OK, but not anything to write home about. It was a great price though. When I purchased it, it was around $22 a bottle.
 
I'd recommend OP you go have a look at barlowes herbal elixirs site.... They have nettle high potency with 300mg of 95% 3'4 divanil per capsule.
Plus their track record is quite reputable.
It is way cheaper than buying a formula with fancy labels and other ingredients u may not need, particularly if you are only looking for bulk divanil.

Just my 2 cents

I'll check it out.....would be right up my alley since I just want the SHBG ingredients, not any DAA or tongkat or tribulus etc...I'm on TRT so those things don't do me a damn bit of good....mostly just the divanil.

Test factor was my favorite test booster of all time. I think Test Factor was reformulated about three years ago and changed to Test Factor Advanced. For some reason that version never took off.

actually they ran both products concurrently....one was "test factor" (the SHBG/stinging nettle supplement with some additional free/total test booster ingredients) and "test factor advanced" which was DAA plus other additional total test boosters. Not sure which one came first, but they were both available over the past year or so....I always had to make sure I bought the correct one lol. :D
 
I just tried Test Factor advanced not to long ago. It was OK, but not anything to write home about. It was a great price though. When I purchased it, it was around $22 a bottle.

Yeah that is the DAA/Total test booster version. Nice price, very cheap....I got some white cap division 1 for like 12 bucks each (I guess they capped them the wrong color and wanted to blow them out cheap)....should have bought them out lol :D
 
Is there a reason why Athletix Division 1 and MN Test factor original are discontinued? It was weird that when I went to look for them, both were gone at the same time. Unleashed is still available though....wasn't sure why a proven and successful product (for both free test AND reduction in hair shedding) was discontinued by two companies, found that odd.

U can always use Divanex from Nutraplanet
 
U can always use Divanex from Nutraplanet

Hey thats a good I-deer, I totally forgot about the bulk divanex and the capped divanex. They both add up to about 50 grams I think? for 20 some odd bucks.
 
I'll check it out.....would be right up my alley since I just want the SHBG ingredients, not any DAA or tongkat or tribulus etc...I'm on TRT so those things don't do me a damn bit of good....mostly just the divanil. actually they ran both products concurrently....one was "test factor" (the SHBG/stinging nettle supplement with some additional free/total test booster ingredients) and "test factor advanced" which was DAA plus other additional total test boosters. Not sure which one came first, but they were both available over the past year or so....I always had to make sure I bought the correct one lol. :D

Test factor came first Test factor advanced was the successor. I believe that production stopped on regular test factor when advanced came out but there were places with back stock of test factor. I know Advanced had DAA in it while Test Factor did not. I know some ingredients were dropped from regular Test Factor to include the DAA.

Thank you for your feedback and support! I'll make sure to remind Bill there are still Test Factor supporters out there.
 
AnabolicHolic,

I use Unleashed along side my TRT for same reasons as you do (increase free T, prevent hair shedding, boost in libido).

I go with Unleashed bc it is cheap ($30 bottle) & effective. It also has avenocosides A & B which has been proven to increase free T.
 
AnabolicHolic,

I use Unleashed along side my TRT for same reasons as you do (increase free T, prevent hair shedding, boost in libido).

I go with Unleashed bc it is cheap ($30 bottle) & effective. It also has avenocosides A & B which has been proven to increase free T.

Yeah I was leaning towards going back to Unleashed, I had that page opened on my browser the other day actually, to make sure it was still available. I've used it twice in the past, but I like to alternate between formulas to keep things confused, I hate to take the same thing 365 with no breaks....i like to switch it up between formulas and take little mini-breaks. I figure to alternate Unleashed, Divanex, and Endosurge Turbo. That will be similar to how I alternated Division 1-Unleashed-Test factor OG.
 
Endosurge turbo is awesome.

Don't forget Alphamax by performax as well.
It has the Urtica 1400mg
300mg L-DOPA
Androsta 75mg
50mg Forskolin 95
 
You guys feel free to talk about me like I'm not here and stuff, debating whether to suggest crappy products to me or not :D
 
Thanks for inquiring regarding Test Factor.

We discontinued that version in order to create a new version with an ingredient (DAA) that had positive science behind it. We then discontinued that version as soon as DAA had a new patent holder, hence our Test Factor Advanced only being available for a very short time period.

Great news though, we will have a new version of this sku which will simply be called Test Factor in early 2014 that will be a fairly major overhaul and very major improvement over the previous versions!
 
Thanks for inquiring regarding Test Factor.

We discontinued that version in order to create a new version with an ingredient (DAA) that had positive science behind it. We then discontinued that version as soon as DAA had a new patent holder, hence our Test Factor Advanced only being available for a very short time period.

Great news though, we will have a new version of this sku which will simply be called Test Factor in early 2014 that will be a fairly major overhaul and very major improvement over the previous versions!

Will it have all the usual SHBG/Free test ingredients? as well as the newer SHBG/Free test ingredients? essentially what was in OG test factor minus the total test/libido ingredients.
 
Will it have all the usual SHBG/Free test ingredients? as well as the newer SHBG/Free test ingredients? essentially what was in OG test factor minus the total test/libido ingredients.

Formula wise, it will be quite a bit different than the prior two versions. I think everybody will be VERY pleased with it.
 
Alphamax looks like a great deal, but those numbers are for two servings, just in case anyone is wondering.

Yup, forgot to add that.

30 day supply
Yep, we suggest 2 caps twice per day. That way a bottle lasts a full 30 days, however we have had users who enjoyed it more at 3 caps, still providing over 1g of Divanill, 225mg L-Dopa, 55mg Arimistane, and 37.5mg 95% Forskolin, still a really great formula at that dose and would last 40 days
 
Yep, we suggest 2 caps twice per day. That way a bottle lasts a full 30 days, however we have had users who enjoyed it more at 3 caps, still providing over 1g of Divanill, 225mg L-Dopa, 55mg Arimistane, and 37.5mg 95% Forskolin, still a really great formula at that dose and would last 40 days

Agreed, I've yet to find such a complete profile to date., especially given the price. Definitely a must try for the adventurous.
 
Yep, we suggest 2 caps twice per day. That way a bottle lasts a full 30 days, however we have had users who enjoyed it more at 3 caps, still providing over 1g of Divanill, 225mg L-Dopa, 55mg Arimistane, and 37.5mg 95% Forskolin, still a really great formula at that dose and would last 40 days

Recently got a bottle with your fitmax pre

Havent tried the fitmax yet but am pleased with the AlphaMax a few days in. Very good profile!
 
Recently got a bottle with your fitmax pre

Havent tried the fitmax yet but am pleased with the AlphaMax a few days in. Very good profile!

Awesome Brother! The team did work pretty hard on the formula, very comprehensive formula! Great you're already getting some positive results, most start noticing something day 3-4. Physical improvements started kicking in week 2 for me. Stoked to see your progression and thoughts on FitMax
 
I ended up ordering the NP divanex, provides 1.2g of divanil per 3 caps....keep it simple for now. When I finish the bottle up, I can then experiment with a few of these other formulas, they have very comprehensive profiles with lots of beneficial things other than SHBG/free test ingredients.
 
I ended up ordering the NP divanex, provides 1.2g of divanil per 3 caps....keep it simple for now. When I finish the bottle up, I can then experiment with a few of these other formulas, they have very comprehensive profiles with lots of beneficial things other than SHBG/free test ingredients.

This also allows u to stack without possible overlap of ingredients
 
Awesome Brother! The team did work pretty hard on the formula, very comprehensive formula! Great you're already getting some positive results, most start noticing something day 3-4. Physical improvements started kicking in week 2 for me. Stoked to see your progression and thoughts on FitMax

I might give the FitMax a whirl tonight, running low on my usual pre. I'll be sure to share my thoughts!
 
I might give the FitMax a whirl tonight, running low on my usual pre. I'll be sure to share my thoughts!


Awesome! Excited to see your take on the PWO. Very unique feel, but I guess you'll be able to answer that for yourself. Crush those weights!
 
Recently got a bottle with your fitmax pre

Havent tried the fitmax yet but am pleased with the AlphaMax a few days in. Very good profile!

I noticed effects pretty quickly from Alphamax as well. Only gets better! Enjoy your run and let us know your thoughts as you run it!
 
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