Segansational's Motivation Log

[Segansational]

The way to use PEDs for untested strength competition is to simply peak exposure with the training. They belong closest to the contest, and if there are different amounts in different phases then the greatest escalation should be at the end, when output matters most.

This actually raises another question I've had. Which is stimulant use day of the meet. Do you use caffeine, etc. prior to your lifts? I mean I am daily using a pre, and do the more exotic stim pre's on primary days. But I imagine that in a meet setting where you never quite know when you'll be on the platform or when the next big lift will start, you can't really time caffeine right. Can you? Don't want to be stimmed up all day. So is that really where the smelling salts come in?

 

[Hyde]

This actually raises another question I've had. Which is stimulant use day of the meet. Do you use caffeine, etc. prior to your lifts? I mean I am daily using a pre, and do the more exotic stim pre's on primary days. But I imagine that in a meet setting where you never quite know when you'll be on the platform or when the next big lift will start, you can't really time caffeine right. Can you? Don't want to be stimmed up all day. So is that really where the smelling salts come in?

Yes we do use them, but like you said you need to mind the pace as well as where you are at on the adrenaline spectrum. I tend to use LESS stims on comp day because I am using peak androgens and already have more adrenaline from nerves. So a good rule might be to use less, when in doubt. And you’re probably going to need 2-3 doses to cover a full meet, so you will use less at a time because you might have more nerves at the start and half-lives still rolling later.

I will typically take 200mg caffeine and 12.5mg ephedrine pre squat, another dose of one of those before bench, and another of the other before deadlifts. But I might use more caffeine if the meet was looking to be quite long. Since they have added more tested meets, the untested ones go much faster usually at the local level.

TLDR use as needed, but don’t overdo it! It’s easy to do if you’re already excited by being there.

 

[Segansational]

Interested in your switch from ON Creatine to ATP Elite. I'm almost done with my Creatine HCL tub, you've got me intrigued...

Today is day 1! Will keep note.

Yes we do use them, but like you said you need to mind the pace as well as where you are at on the adrenaline spectrum. I tend to use LESS stims on comp day because I am using peak androgens and already have more adrenaline from nerves. So a good rule might be to use less, when in doubt. And you’re probably going to need 2-3 doses to cover a full meet, so you will use less at a time because you might have more nerves at the start and half-lives still rolling later.

I will typically take 200mg caffeine and 12.5mg ephedrine pre squat, another dose of one of those before bench, and another of the other before deadlifts. But I might use more caffeine if the meet was looking to be quite long. Since they have added more tested meets, the untested ones go much faster usually at the local level.

TLDR use as needed, but don’t overdo it! It’s easy to do if you’re already excited by being there.

I was thinking maybe timing 200 mg if I can figure it out right before each lift, something like an energy shot for fast absorption. Spaced over say 5-6 hours? Think that's about right for a meet day? I need to find a local show to attend soon.

 

[Segansational]

Primary Bench Day

Foam rolling / stretching
Scap Push Ups
Bird Dogs x 10,5,3
Rotator cuff ex, resistance bands 2x12,12

Bench Press:
Warm ups,
45x10
95x8
135x6

Working sets,
165x5
165x5
165x5
165x5

Felt pretty tired this AM. Yawning mid bench. These were tough - plan coming in was 4x6, which I did 3 weeks ago (prior to shoulder issue), but only hit 5 reps on the first set so stayed there.

Machine Chest Press:
3 plates x 12
7 plates x 3 x 10

Foam rolling / stretching.

1 hr 1 mins, 163 cals.

Pre: 3/4 scoop Doomsday, 3 caps PrimeXT, 2 caps Pepti-Plex, 3 caps ATPElite.
Intra: Same as last WO.

Notes
Post-vacation weight has come back down. Check in this AM at 172.0#, 16.2%.

Short week for me, thankfully! 3 day camping weekend coming up with the family.

 

[MrKleen73]

Just keep pushing, you have got this.

 

[MrKleen73]

Also, as @Hyde mentioned at my meet, I was so excited already, I didn't have to use tons. I took about 1 scoop of pre-workout about 30 minutes from when we thought my first flight would start, then did a half scoop in between lifts to keep energy levels pretty level. Add the nose torque to that and I didn't need any further stimulation. The meet was about 3.5-4 hours total, and I feel it worked out pretty well for me. One thing for sure, do not take anything that has ever overstimulated you. You want something you can trust maybe a ghost, or an old standby favorite you are very familiar with. I forgot what i was using but it was my old trusty one from that time period that I knew how it hit every time I took it. If you are too stimmed it seems like a CNS traffic Jam, just too many signals to get the force you want out of the muscles you want it from when over stimmed like that.

 

[Dustin07]

Sex & a steak?

Scallops, but since she's a red meat kinda girl we usually have steak with the scallops

Yes we do use them, but like you said you need to mind the pace as well as where you are at on the adrenaline spectrum. I tend to use LESS stims on comp day because I am using peak androgens and already have more adrenaline from nerves. So a good rule might be to use less, when in doubt. And you’re probably going to need 2-3 doses to cover a full meet, so you will use less at a time because you might have more nerves at the start and half-lives still rolling later.

yeah even though my events were 6-12 minute wods rather than 5 second bursts of 1rm demonstration, I did not see the benefit of trying to space out and over consume caffiene over a 5 or 6 or 8 hour day. I would likely have some preWO but I focused a lot more on packing quality foods that would keep me balanced the entire day. I also stayed calm by deciding a long time ago that the training was done. the winner was already here in the building, we were just here to find out who that is. I practiced my events in advance and always knew roughly what I was capable of so I'd temper myself down, regulate, and make sure that I didn't blow my wod until the last 20-60 seconds where I'd let the reigns go and finish with an all out sprint. People would ask me why I started so slow as other athletes blasted past me in the first 3 minutes of a 7 minute event but I kept my pace that I knew allowed me to not redline early, then when they started bending over, huffing and puffing, taking their 10+ second rests I'd keep on going (tortoise and the hare?) right past them.

it's not exactly the same as a 9 lift event, but there are similiarities I think! Get on the board. Get another good. one go for the PR.

 

[Hyde]

I was thinking maybe timing 200 mg if I can figure it out right before each lift, something like an energy shot for fast absorption. Spaced over say 5-6 hours? Think that's about right for a meet day? I need to find a local show to attend soon.

I have done multiple meets where I was warming up at 8am and not leaving until 6, so a solid 9 hours the lifting was spread over before awards.

I have also been ran as fast as 2.5 hours for a full meet in July with no AC.

You need to be prepared to be flexible & try to adapt to the conditions you find yourself in.

Also, as @Hyde mentioned at my meet, I was so excited already, I didn't have to use tons. I took about 1 scoop of pre-workout about 30 minutes from when we thought my first flight would start, then did a half scoop in between lifts to keep energy levels pretty level. Add the nose torque to that and I didn't need any further stimulation. The meet was about 3.5-4 hours total, and I feel it worked out pretty well for me. One thing for sure, do not take anything that has ever overstimulated you. You want something you can trust maybe a ghost, or an old standby favorite you are very familiar with. I forgot what i was using but it was my old trusty one from that time period that I knew how it hit every time I took it. If you are too stimmed it seems like a CNS traffic Jam, just too many signals to get the force you want out of the muscles you want it from when over stimmed like that.

Yes, usually I stick to caffeine tabs or something like Focus XT, or similar product I can expect complete reliability from in effect.

You can always take more later, but you will regret getting overly-stimulated! It’s much easier to ask for another back slap at the last moment than deal with too much arousal when you should be conserving energy.

it's not exactly the same as a 9 lift event, but there are similiarities I think! Get on the board. Get another good. one go for the PR.

The last point is the philosophy I tend to embrace: open light, build confidence, and be precise to finish strong. If you choose 3rd attempts you truly believe you are good for, you will build momentum as you are successful as well as save yourself from wasting energy on missed lifts. You also make the biggest total by lifting to your fullest potential. If you get too greedy, you drop back to the last successful one for your score, and that’s leaving pounds on the table. You might lose out on 20-45lbs more on the total because you were overreaching for an extra 5 you didn’t really have business in chasing.

 

[Segansational]

All good advice, thanks fellas. I'm starting to get a little excited and nervous at the prospect of this now!

Deadlift Day
Foam rolling / stretching
Scap Push Ups
Bird Dogs x10,5,3

Neutral Grip Pull Ups, Swissies x 5,4,5

Deadlifts:

Warm ups,
45x10
95x8
135x6 - belted, socks only, plus banded pullaparts prior from here on out.
155x4
175x1 - felt like nothing, so was happy about that!

Working sets,
175x6
175x6
175x6

Had to stop here as I ran out of time this AM, but sure I could've gotten the last set of 6. Will probably give this weight/rep scheme another go next week to get full 4x6 under my belt.

Lots of sweat this AM.

Foam rolling/stretching to finish.

1 hr, 146 cals.


Pre: 3/4 scoop Doomsday, 3 caps PrimeXT, 2 caps Pepti-Plex, 3 caps ATPElite
Intra: Same as prior last scoop of Klout.

 

[MrKleen73]

Sounds like you are starting to get amped up, now the fun begins!!!

 

[Hyde]

Spot on; more total volume by adding that set next week will be perfect for progress!

 

[Segansational]

Not much to write about today. Both kids were up last night, son might have an ear infection. Daughter hasn't been sleeping through the night since we got back from vacation. Almost didn't get up to workout this morning. Guess that's where routine comes in...

Legs
Foam rolling/stretching
Scap Push Ups
Bird Dogs x10,5,3

TRX squats x TRX alt lunges, 3x10
TRX calf raises, plate raised, 3x10
Seated leg ext, 3 plates x 3 x 10
RDLs, 1" bar x 3 x 10

Foam rolling to finish.

Could almost call this just a deload day, just something to get up and moving.

54:15, 137 cals.

 

[MrKleen73]

It was something, and that is what counts.

 

[Dustin07]

man ear infections are the worst, I feel like its a nasty thing we all go through as children and I still have PTSD. my dad has hearing aids now at the age of 63 and only a couple years ago the doctors decided that his hearing issues might be from childhood ear infections and that might also be why he misprounces a number of words cause he never heard them correctly in the first place!

 

[Segansational]

Accessory Chest Day
Foam rolling / stretching
Scap push Ups
Bird Dogs x10,5,3
Rotstor cuff ex, resistance bands 2x12,12

Incline Bench Press:
Warm ups,
45x10
95x8
135x6
Working sets,
155x5
160x5
165x5

These felt good today. My right shoulder joint finally felt "opened up" and I'd say feels about 95% back to normal.

Floor Press:
45x12
95x10
Working sets,
135x3x8

Machine Flys:
3 plates x 2 x 10

Foam rolling / stretching to finish.

1 hr 13 mins, 231 cals.

Pre: 3/4 scoop Doomsday, 3 caps PrimeXT, 2 caps Pepti-Plex, 3 caps ATPElite.
Intra: 1 scoop Rule1 EAA9, 1 scoop R1 Lytes, 1/2 scoop SuperCarb.

Notes
Today felt like a solid workout. Things seemed to go pretty smoothly. Had decent mental focus. Things were largely clicking. I will say that my joints felt a bit creaky though, snap, crackle, pop, but all in all felt good - pushed appropriately and activated the muscles.

 

[Segansational]

Weight check, holding steady at 172.0#, 16.2%.

Fitbit being a salty b!tch again. Telling me I'm at risk for undertraining... the disrespect!

 

[Segansational]

Man, rough week... first Ozzy, then the Hulkster. I was lucky enough to meet Hulk Hogan at the Arnold 10 years ago. He was a star for the generations. RIP.

Listened to an Ozzy Playlist while working out this AM...

Hypertophy Back Session
Stretching / foam rolling
Scap Push Ups
Bird Dogs x10,5,3

Lat Pulldowns;
3 plates x 12
5 plates x 3 x 10

Still keeping these light for my shoulder, but could've gone heavier. Good sign my shoulder is healing up and maybe even getting stronger...

Neutral grip pull ups, swissies grip x 7,6,5

BB rows:
45x10
95x8
135x3x6, belted.

Close Grip Cable rows:
7 plates x 3 x 10

Foam rolling to finish.

1 hr 13 mins, 231 cals.

Pre: 1 scoop Total War, 3 caps VasoforceXT, 3 caps ATPElite, 3 caps PrimeXT, 2 caps Pepti-Plex.
Intra: Same as last workout.

 

[Hyde]

How do the neutral grip pull-ups feel on the shoulder?

 

[Segansational]

How do the neutral grip pull-ups feel on the shoulder?

No issues with neutral grip pull ups. It's the combination of overhand grip and wide, with heavier weight.

 

[slimsaw00]

You have a meet upcoming? If so, very cool!

 

[Segansational]

You have a meet upcoming? If so, very cool!

Targeting a November meet. Will be my first one!

Primary Bench Day
Foam rolling / stretching
Scap Push Ups
Bird Dogs x10,5,3
Rotator cuff ex, resistance bands 2x12,12

Bench Press:

Warm ups,
45x10
95x8
135x6
155x4

Working sets,
170x5
170x5
170x5
170x5
170x5

These were tough, but a 5# step up from last week. Barely eeked out that last rep. And that's all I had time for this AM.

Foam rolling / stretching to finish.

1 hr 6 mins, 213 cals.

Pre: 3/4 scoop Doomsday, 3 caps VasoforceXT, 3 caps ATPElite, 3 caps PrimeXT, 2 caps Pepti-Plex
Intra: Same as prior.

Random Stuff:

Camping weekend with the kids was a little rainy on and off, but we still made the most of it. No one really seemed to be bothered. Kids had friends along and lots of dogs to pet (4!).

Stomach felt off yesterday, probably from eating all the crap this weekend. Kept up with my supps, but did drop ATPElite, PrimeXT, and Pepti-Plex for about a day and a half for simplicity. Back on Sun evening. Sleep was pretty interrupted as well at night. Kids are still having issues through the night.

Also, just noting that my left hamstring is having an issue that started Saturday. Or still least thats when I first noticed it. Feels sore, like maybe I pulled or whacked it into something.

Low back felt a little tender too. SoI guess all in all just tp say Im not operating at my best. But we all train injured in this lifestyle.

Another busy work week, but a short one again for us (yes, we've stacked the summer). Headed down to the shore for a long weekend on Friday. Cheers!

 

[Hyde]

Yeah it’s always something. I don’t usually mention stuff in my log unless it’s persistent, but for example I had an issue in left tricep/lat tie-in Tuesday during deadlift warmups (still made my big lift fine), then back of left shoulder was hurting/felt overworked during squat warmups Friday (again, didn’t worsen during top set). Then yesterday on second attempted work set of frontsquats, my lowest rib on right side started aching after racking it & has been pissed off since. Each thing has so far resolved within 48 hours, but dealing with these higher intensity weights lately lots of things just get pushed sometimes.

As long as they heal quick, I ain’t mad about it!

 

[sammpedd88]

Yeah it’s always something. I don’t usually mention stuff in my log unless it’s persistent, but for example I had an issue in left tricep/lat tie-in Tuesday during deadlift warmups (still made my big lift fine), then back of left shoulder was hurting/felt overworked during squat warmups Friday (again, didn’t worsen during top set). Then yesterday on second attempted work set of frontsquats, my lowest rib on right side started aching after racking it & has been pissed off since. Each thing has so far resolved within 48 hours, but dealing with these higher intensity weights lately lots of things just get pushed sometimes.

As long as they heal quick, I ain’t mad about it!

And I thought I was the only one with little things popping up. Left elbow and shoulder, and right knee. I thought it was my age but if you’re getting it too @Hyde then it’s just part of the PL game I guess.

 

[Dustin07]

Yeah it’s always something. I don’t usually mention stuff in my log unless it’s persistent, but for example I had an issue in left tricep/lat tie-in Tuesday during deadlift warmups (still made my big lift fine), then back of left shoulder was hurting/felt overworked during squat warmups Friday (again, didn’t worsen during top set). Then yesterday on second attempted work set of frontsquats, my lowest rib on right side started aching after racking it & has been pissed off since. Each thing has so far resolved within 48 hours, but dealing with these higher intensity weights lately lots of things just get pushed sometimes.

As long as they heal quick, I ain’t mad about it!

And I thought I was the only one with little things popping up. Left elbow and shoulder, and right knee. I thought it was my age but if you’re getting it too @Hyde then it’s just part of the PL game I guess.

LOL I was on the couch with my wife last night after my chest session and I grabbed my pec and squeezed hard on it, the thing was spasming so bad you'd almost think I was having a heart attack if it wasn't so clearly external muscle pain. when the lat ones flare up its miserable, I have to stand up, go find a door jamb and grind the shoulder blades into until it releases

 

[Segansational]

Deadlift Day
Foam rolling / stretching
Scap Push Ups
Bird Dogs x10,5,3

Neutral Grip Pull Ups, Swissies x 7,5,5
Just noting that I'm seeing my rep count increase on these.

Deadlifts:
Warm ups,
45x10
95x8
135x6 - belted, socks only, plus banded pullaparts prior from here on out.
155x4
175x1

Working sets,
175x6
175x6
175x6
175x6

Hit all 4 sets today and am feeling pretty happy about my progression. Still have to be mindful of my lower back, but all in all, today's session was solid.

Foam rolling / stretching / lacrosse ball work to finish.

1 hr 11 mins, 288 cals.

Pre: 3/4 scoop Smash AMF, 3 caps ATPElite, 3 caps PrimeXT, 2 caps Pepti-Plex
Intra: Same as prior.

Notes:
3/4 scoop of Smash AMF seems right. Just on the edge without falling into the chasm. That undertone of it feeling like too much / jitters just below the surface. And still lots of sweat and that bit of yo coldness. But this time, it wasn't negative. I could probably dial back even just a hair if I wanted a smoother experience. Scoop size makes it a little hard to adjust finer though since it's a relatively small scoop.

 

[MrKleen73]

Looks like you are making good progress.

 

[Hyde]

You could weigh the preWO so you can dose by the gram. Especially when you are using a partial scoop of something, take the scoop out, tare the topless tub, then you can scoop and see how much you have removed.

 

[MrKleen73]

You could weigh the preWO so you can dose by the gram. Especially when you are using a partial scoop of something, take the scoop out, tare the topless tub, then you can scoop and see how much you have removed.

This is a great trick my coach taught me and I used this method quite often when weighing things. It is great for nut butters and the like too!

 

[Dustin07]

Last comment, then I'll take it to my log so we don’t clog up Green's. 5'6", short king as they say nowadays. I tried to pretend I was 5'7" once upon a time - but with age (and probably time under the bar) I've definitely shrunk.

we are pretty proportionate then I think, and I used to do the same thing. at one point my drivers license did say I was 5'10" but I just go by 5'9" now lol. I blame it on the burst disc since the shrinking started pretty young, by like age 25 or something.

 

[Segansational]

we are pretty proportionate then I think, and I used to do the same thing. at one point my drivers license did say I was 5'10" but I just go by 5'9" now lol. I blame it on the burst disc since the shrinking started pretty young, by like age 25 or something.

Here was my condition when I weighed in at 148.6# post-8 week cut:

 

[DarkHelix]

@Segansational is so sensational! Great reading this log man.

 

[Segansational]

Legs
Foam rolling / stretching / lacrosse ball work
Scap Push Ups
Bird Dogs x10,5,3
Cat Camels

TRX squats x TRX alt lunges, 3x10
TRX calf raises, plate raised, 3x12

BB Squats:
Warm ups,
45x10
95x8
135x6 - belted here on out.
155x5 - just started going and forgot what I was doing as this was warm up reps only. Ended up doing a few extra accidentally.

Working sets, banded pullaparts prior to each set:
175x5
175x5
175x5

Hit all prescribed reps this AM just as planned. The right level of effort/weight/reps for me today.

Seated machine leg ext,
3 plates x 2 x 10

Foam rolling / stretching to finish.

1 hr 9 mins, 227 cals.

Pre: 1 scoop Total War, 3 caps ATPElite, 3 caps PrimeXT, 2 caps Pepti-Plex
Intra: Same as yesterday.

Notes
Finished up another tub of Total War (small serving size). I may need to start using up my other high stim products soon, as I have a lot of newer ones Ive cracked recently, but the others are starting to go. Will probably try to finish out Juice Daddy next / rotated with another Total War tub.

Been really tired the past two days, basically all day, but also especially post-dinner. I forget what I should be supplementing with that these stims deplete. Wondering if I'm deficient in something right now. Looks like maybe magnesium per chatGPT, but that wasn't what I was thinking of. Maybe choline or something similar?

That said, I am going relatively hard lately with this new routine and weight progressions.

Also, need some new workout shorts. These old school basketball style below the knee ones are annoying when squatting. Someone give me a recommendation for another brand.

 

[Segansational]

@Segansational is so sensational! Great reading this log man.

Thanks brother and welcome to the log!

 

[MrKleen73]

Legs
Foam rolling / stretching / lacrosse ball work
Scap Push Ups
Bird Dogs x10,5,3
Cat Camels

TRX squats x TRX alt lunges, 3x10
TRX calf raises, plate raised, 3x12

BB Squats:
Warm ups,
45x10
95x8
135x6 - belted here on out.
155x5 - just started going and forgot what I was doing as this was warm up reps only. Ended up doing a few extra accidentally.

Working sets, banded pullaparts prior to each set:
175x5
175x5
175x5

Hit all prescribed reps this AM just as planned. The right level of effort/weight/reps for me today.

Seated machine leg ext,
3 plates x 2 x 10

Foam rolling / stretching to finish.

1 hr 9 mins, 227 cals.

Pre: 1 scoop Total War, 3 caps ATPElite, 3 caps PrimeXT, 2 caps Pepti-Plex
Intra: Same as yesterday.

Notes
Finished up another tub of Total War (small serving size). I may need to start using up my other high stim products soon, as I have a lot of newer ones Ive cracked recently, but the others are starting to go. Will probably try to finish out Juice Daddy next / rotated with another Total War tub.

Been really tired the past two days, basically all day, but also especially post-dinner. I forget what I should be supplementing with that these stims deplete. Wondering if I'm deficient in something right now. Looks like maybe magnesium per chatGPT, but that wasn't what I was thinking of. Maybe choline or something similar?

That said, I am going relatively hard lately with this new routine and weight progressions.

Also, need some new workout shorts. These old school basketball style below the knee ones are annoying when squatting. Someone give me a recommendation for another brand.

I can see how magnesium would help. Might be a good idea to get some, it is great for the nervous system. You might also try a couple days of benadryl, I have heard it helps to reset the adrenals a bit. Just don't use a pre-workout during that time either.

This is probably the same thing you saw or close but a quick Google AI search gave me this.

Adrenal fatigue from stimulant use is a topic that generates debate, with the mainstream medical community not recognizing it as a verified condition. However, some functional medicine practitioners link stimulant overuse to adrenal dysfunction and related symptoms. Regardless of the diagnostic label, if you're experiencing fatigue and other symptoms often attributed to adrenal fatigue, especially if you're a heavy stimulant user, focusing on these areas may be helpful:
1. Reduce stimulant intake (gradually)

• Cut back or eliminate caffeine, energy drinks, alcohol, and other stimulants. These can further tax your adrenal glands and disrupt sleep patterns.
• Reduce your reliance on other stimulants, like those found in diet pills or certain medications, if possible. If you're on prescribed medication, consult with a doctor before making any changes.
• Consider alternatives like herbal teas or golden milk for a calming effect.

2. Prioritize quality sleep

• Aim for 7-9 hours of quality sleep each night.
• Establish a consistent sleep schedule and stick to it, even on weekends.
• Create a relaxing bedtime routine, like taking a warm bath or reading.
• Make your bedroom a sleep sanctuary – dark, quiet, and cool.
• Reduce screen time before bed as blue light can disrupt melatonin production.

3. Embrace a nutrient-dense diet

• Focus on whole, unprocessed foods, including plenty of vegetables (especially leafy greens), lean proteins, healthy fats, and complex carbohydrates.
• Include foods rich in vitamins and minerals crucial for adrenal health, such as:
  • Vitamin C: Citrus fruits, bell peppers, leafy greens.
  • Magnesium: Nuts, seeds, leafy greens.
  • B Vitamins: Eggs, whole grains, legumes.
• Support gut health with probiotics and fiber.
• Stay well-hydrated with plenty of filtered water.

4. Manage stress effectively

• Practice relaxation techniques like meditation, deep breathing exercises, or yoga.
• Engage in enjoyable activities and make time for hobbies.
• Set boundaries to avoid over-committing and feeling overwhelmed.
• Seek professional help for stress, anxiety, or depression if needed.

5. Supplement wisely (under guidance)

• Consult with a healthcare provider before taking any supplements, especially if you are on medication or have other health conditions.
• Consider supplements that may support adrenal function and stress resilience, such as:
  • Adaptogenic herbs: Ashwagandha, Rhodiola Rosea, Holy Basil.
  • Magnesium: Known as the "relaxation mineral".
  • Vitamin C: Crucial for adrenal hormone production.
  • B Vitamins: Support energy production and nervous system health.
  • Omega-3 Fatty Acids: Reduce inflammation and support hormone balance.

6. Engage in moderate exercise

• Choose low-impact exercises like yoga, swimming, or brisk walking.
• Avoid over-exercising, which can further burden the adrenals.
• Spend time in nature to promote relaxation and improve mood.

7. Seek professional support

• Consult with a functional medicine practitioner who specializes in adrenal health to get a comprehensive evaluation and personalized treatment plan, according to Michigan Health and Wellness Center and Functional Medicine Doctor Irvine.
• Explore other therapies like acupuncture or massage therapy which may help manage stress and improve overall well-being.

By implementing these strategies, you can potentially reduce your reliance on stimulants, support your adrenal glands, and promote a path toward regaining energy and overall well-being.

 

[Dustin07]

Also, need some new workout shorts. These old school basketball style below the knee ones are annoying when squatting. Someone give me a recommendation for another brand.

this is gonna sound weird but my wife bought me some fabletics gear a while back as an experiement because she liked hers a lot and had some credits etc. They're by far my favorite pants now. the shirts aren't great, but the joggers are fantastic. I'd have to ask her specifically which version mine are since I didn't order them but the material is like old school lululemon before all their **** went completely woke ass gender neutral garbage. (I actually still have like 15 year old lulu pants, super high quality)

https://www.fabletics.com/products/THE-CLOUD-JERSEY-JOGGER-PT2458332-4846?psrc=sign_up_confirmation_24pants&gridGender=male

 

[Hyde]

Choline is definitely something to supplement if you’re looking for a mental lift/reduced brain fog. Lifting heavy depletes it just as much as thinking hard; your brain needs it as substrate to form new parts of your brain and will tear down existing structures to rob it if necessary, so you want it present ahead of time if necessary.

Search for choline-rich foods you will eat, and/or supplement. AlphaGPC is ideal for preWO performance, but SNS Choline Citrate powder is absolutely best bang for buck - one cheap tub will last forever even with daily use. I take a dry scoop first thing each morning that I’m not lifting while I’m hydrating. Training days I take capped AlphaGPC, or sometimes injectable choline from MA.

 

[Segansational]

I can see how magnesium would help. Might be a good idea to get some, it is great for the nervous system. You might also try a couple days of benadryl, I have heard it helps to reset the adrenals a bit. Just don't use a pre-workout during that time either.

Yeah, my wife has Magnesium Glycinate she takes nightly. So I might start with that since I have it on hand.

this is gonna sound weird but my wife bought me some fabletics gear a while back as an experiement because she liked hers a lot and had some credits etc. They're by far my favorite pants now. the shirts aren't great, but the joggers are fantastic. I'd have to ask her specifically which version mine are since I didn't order them but the material is like old school lululemon before all their **** went completely woke ass gender neutral garbage. (I actually still have like 15 year old lulu pants, super high quality)

I just checked the site and seems like they have really cheap deals if you're a member. But am I reading it right that it's a monthly subscription model?

Choline is definitely something to supplement if you’re looking for a mental lift/reduced brain fog. Lifting heavy depletes it just as much as thinking hard; your brain needs it as substrate to form new parts of your brain and will tear down existing structures to rob it if necessary, so you want it present ahead of time if necessary.

Search for choline-rich foods you will eat, and/or supplement. AlphaGPC is ideal for preWO performance, but SNS Choline Citrate powder is absolutely best bang for buck - one cheap tub will last forever even with daily use. I take a dry scoop first thing each morning that I’m not lifting while I’m hydrating. Training days I take capped AlphaGPC, or sometimes injectable choline from MA.

Ah, I just placed a DPS order for some SNS restocks. Ill have to get it next go around.dp you do Choline Citrate only on non-WO days? Or are you saying you switch between AlphaGPC on WO and choline Citrate only non-WO as rotation? Basically is there any reason to not use Choline citrate on WO days too?

 

[Hyde]

Yeah, my wife has Magnesium Glycinate she takes nightly. So I might start with that since I have it on hand.



I just checked the site and seems like they have really cheap deals if you're a member. But am I reading it right that it's a monthly subscription model?



Ah, I just placed a DPS order for some SNS restocks. Ill have to get it next go around.dp you do Choline Citrate only on non-WO days? Or are you saying you switch between AlphaGPC on WO and choline Citrate only non-WO as rotation? Basically is there any reason to not use Choline citrate on WO days too?

I use AGPC preWO because it’s superior for performance, but because GPC costs significantly more per serving I use Choline Citrate on off days since it works well for mental clarity.

If I only had Citrate, I would gladly take that daily, and that daily is the perfect budget option. It’s crazy affordable.

 

[Hyde]

I use AGPC preWO because it’s superior for performance, but because it costs significantly more per serving I use Choline Citrate on off days since it works well for mental clarity.

If I only had Citrate, I would gladly take that daily, and that daily is the perfect budget option. It’s crazy affordable.

It also tastes great, slightly sour powder I really enjoy the taste of straight or mixed in a drink.

 

[1HP]

It also tastes great, slightly sour powder I really enjoy the taste of straight or mixed in a drink.

Oh man really? I cap it in OOO caps. It borderline burns my tongue I’m not a fan of sour foods in general though.

Do completely agree on the benefits. I take the sns bulkpowder daily with breakfast, probably works out to ~800mg, and sns elite choline pre workout. The bulk powder gives me more of a clear headed mood boost, perfect to jumpstart the day. The elite choline increases focus and will power which is great for workouts. I do prefer elite choline over straight alpha gpc, but not enormously so to be completely honest.

 

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Quick check in:

Accessory Chest Day
68 mins, 170 cals.

Working sets of incline bench, 165x3x5. Chest Press machine, 8 plates x 3 x 10.

That's the basics of it since it didn't save my full WO.

Started ZMA last evening.

 

[Dustin07]

I just checked the site and seems like they have really cheap deals if you're a member. But am I reading it right that it's a monthly subscription model?

I think so but I'm not super in the loop. I think what my wife told me was that each month the sub fee actually ends up being a credit to get you to spend it that month. I have no idea how much it is but like those pants I posted for $19... those would be $100+ at the mall, IMO.

Started ZMA last evening.

one of my favorites. deep sleep and wild dreams.

 

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Accessory Back Day
Foam rolling / stretching
Scap Push Ups
Bird Dogs x10,5,3
Cat Camels

Dead hangs, wide grip 3 x 20 sec holds

Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns:
3 plates x 10
5 plates 3 x 10

Seated close Grip Cable rows:
5 plates x 10
6 plates x 10
7 plates x 10

Focused on slow reps, stretch and form.

Single arm high pulley rows, Swissies Grip:
2 plates x 3 x 10, per side

This was my first time doing this, but I've been seeing a lot of folks using a similar exercise to really isolate and also stretch the lat.

RDLs, 1" bar only, 2x10

Foam rolling / stretching to finish.

1 hr 6 mins, 144 cals.

Pre: 1 scoop Total War, 3 caps PrimeXT, 3 caps ATPElite, 2 caps Pepti-Plex.
Intra: Same as before.

Notes
Today's session really focused on lighter weight, but high stretch. Been watching Eric Janicki (spelling prob wrong) videos and he does a lot of really exaggerated movement like this.

Headed to the beach for another long weekend with the family today. So no workouts until Monday. Cheers!

 

[Hyde]

Oh man really? I cap it in OOO caps. It borderline burns my tongue I’m not a fan of sour foods in general though.

Do completely agree on the benefits. I take the sns bulkpowder daily with breakfast, probably works out to ~800mg, and sns elite choline pre workout. The bulk powder gives me more of a clear headed mood boost, perfect to jumpstart the day. The elite choline increases focus and will power which is great for workouts. I do prefer elite choline over straight alpha gpc, but not enormously so to be completely honest.

I take a swig of water in my mouth then toss the powder in & swish - it’s a delicious sour shot! Haha

I haven’t tried Elite Choline; nothing really outperforms GPC on paper that I’ve seen for actual power increase. Although lifting is hugely mental, so anything that can help you be in the optimal headspace should be considered potentially valuable.

 

[Segansational]

I take a swig of water in my mouth then toss the powder in & swish - it’s a delicious sour shot! Haha

I haven’t tried Elite Choline; nothing really outperforms GPC on paper that I’ve seen for actual power increase. Although lifting is hugely mental, so anything that can help you be in the optimal headspace should be considered potentially valuable.

Elite Choline looks pretty good, alpha GPC + citicholine.

Back from a long weekend at the beach. We had nice weather the whole time. Have work travel up to Boston this week - anyone know of any good gyms up there? Does the Boston Mass still train? What was his name, Jose Raymond?

Bench Press Day
Foam rolling / stretching
Scap Push Ups
Bird Dogs x10,5,3
Cat Camels
Rotator cuff ex, 2x10,10

Bench Press:
45x10
95x8
135x6
155x4
175x2

Slingshot Assist:
185x6

Burnout reps:
135x8

Wasn't feeling it today. My right shoulder was giving me trouble and it all felt heavy. So just went for some assisted work this AM.

TRX chest press:
3x10

Stretching to finish.

56:44, 171 cals.

Pre: 1 scoop Juice Daddy, 3 caps PrimeXT, 3 caps ATPElite, 2 caps Pepti-Plex.
Intra: Same as usual.

 

[SkRaw85]

Just to add to caffeine intake on meet day, the meet will be quite stimulating by itself, be careful not to get too jittery

 

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Ok gents, personal post coming. Feel free to skip if you want to get back to the training stuff:

First, quick weight update:
173.6# (+1.4#)
16.3% (+0.1%)

Yesterday was my wife & I's wedding anniversary, 13 years married (20 years together). Can't say it's always been 100% smooth, but it's been a fulfilling life so far. When I do reflect on the sum total, I know I have been blessed. I've worked hard for sure, but there's been a little luck mixed in, and decisions that I've made to lead me down this path. So I guess I'm just feeling grateful.

Also, I'm officially a year into my sobriety journey. I guess i can't say I'm truly 100% sober, since I still drink non-alcoholic beers which do have a bit of alcohol (<0.5%), but I'm a stickler for definitions. I still sometimes "miss" it, and it was a little difficult early on. But as time has gone by, I don't have quite the desire as much. I know I'll still have to take it day by day, as I plan to keep on going. But as I have some compulsive tendencies, I'll need to just keep reminding myself to keep myself in check.

I was going to post something about it elsewhere, but it felt too much like I was phishing for attention or something. Know you guys won't think that, so this is still more of a log post. My own personal reflection/accountability really.

TL,DR: Happy anniversary to me on two accounts. No need to read or reply.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program!

 

[Dustin07]

Also, I'm officially a year into my sobriety journey. I guess i can't say I'm truly 100% sober, since I still drink non-alcoholic beers which do have a bit of alcohol (<0.5%), but I'm a stickler for definitions. I still sometimes "miss" it, and it was a little difficult early on. But as time has gone by, I don't have quite the desire as much. I know I'll still have to take it day by day, as I plan to keep on going. But as I have some compulsive tendencies, I'll need to just keep reminding myself to keep myself in check.

I haven't quit for any particular reason, I basically say I drink when I want to and don't when I don't want to but I can tell you after not having had any in a while, then having some this weekend, it tasted horrible and the sleep quality getting trashed wasn't worth it! LOL. I'll be your canary in the coalmine haha. If you think you have a problem and shouldn't drink, I can attest that the temptation isn't worth it. I'm still shocked at how horrible it tasted. Energy levels are higher without, plus wasted calories, metabolism/hormonal shock, etc.

 

[SkRaw85]

Ok gents, personal post coming. Feel free to skip if you want to get back to the training stuff:

First, quick weight update:
173.6# (+1.4#)
16.3% (+0.1%)

Yesterday was my wife & I's wedding anniversary, 13 years married (20 years together). Can't say it's always been 100% smooth, but it's been a fulfilling life so far. When I do reflect on the sum total, I know I have been blessed. I've worked hard for sure, but there's been a little luck mixed in, and decisions that I've made to lead me down this path. So I guess I'm just feeling grateful.

Also, I'm officially a year into my sobriety journey. I guess i can't say I'm truly 100% sober, since I still drink non-alcoholic beers which do have a bit of alcohol (<0.5%), but I'm a stickler for definitions. I still sometimes "miss" it, and it was a little difficult early on. But as time has gone by, I don't have quite the desire as much. I know I'll still have to take it day by day, as I plan to keep on going. But as I have some compulsive tendencies, I'll need to just keep reminding myself to keep myself in check.

I was going to post something about it elsewhere, but it felt too much like I was phishing for attention or something. Know you guys won't think that, so this is still more of a log post. My own personal reflection/accountability really.

TL,DR: Happy anniversary to me on two accounts. No need to read or reply.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program!

Congrats on both accounts Seg! Both are very honorable and earned!

 

[Segansational]

Ok, I'm just going to come out and say it:

RAW Whey Protein Blend, Glazed Donut is straight up terrible. All chemical aftertaste. Got it on sale, but can confidently say I will not be purchasing again.