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Scientific Experiment/Log 12 week epi/m14/pmag cycle

UnrealMachine said:
but a static dose of var that's about 1/3 as much as you should be taking isn't the kind of cycle I would want to draw conclusions from.

you can absolutely continue making gains on week 6/7/8 of a cycle. you just need to vary the doses and change compounds.
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So wait wait wait, if I where to switch from the epi in week 5 to the m14/pmag in week 5 and run that for 6 more weeks I would see gains in weight- (my diet owuld have been switched to bulk) Im not going to do it its summer anyways and wanna stay lean- maybe in the winter i dunno
 
basically schwell there are several trains of thought on this subject and no one can tell you what your body is going to do... i think everyone can agree though that the first few wks of a cycle are going to yield the greatest returns. the debate is whether the next 8 wks are better spent continuing the cycle or PCTing followed by another short burst.
 
I see well.....my expirment failed.....alas this is the way of science- test and retest!



And may The Good Lord help me
 
oh my friend I dont know why you keep attacking me personally, but hey I dont care my life is pretty successful!

Hope u have a good day man
 
Ok im really starting to fed up with all the bashing on this man...for what? because he posts a lot of threads?!? THIS IS WHAT FORUMS ARE FOR. Hes curious, so what. If you dont like it and have to bash on someone every time they ask a question, get your immature @ss out of her and go to a different forum where we all wont have to waste our time reading your bullsh!t flame posts.
 
MikeGfilms said:
Ok im really starting to fed up with all the bashing on this man...for what? because he posts a lot of threads?!? THIS IS WHAT FORUMS ARE FOR. Hes curious, so what. If you dont like it and have to bash on someone every time they ask a question, get your immature @ss out of her and go to a different forum where we all wont have to waste our time reading your bullsh!t flame posts.
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Clearly you havent read his posts.
 
Funny, I'll be logging something similarly stupid soon. And I figured no one else had thought of it haha. Good luck man, the strength is gonna be awesome.
 
Glad you changed your mind. My thought was you ran Epi with OXO to dry out and lean up for summer, but you were then gonna run m1,4add which bloats you all to hell, only to run a p-mag cycle to dry up the gains and lean you back out. I mean, that is what the m1/P-mag cycle is designed for. A good bulk from m1 then very minimal gains from P-mag, a compound that will dry you up nix the bloat. I expect nothing more than 2-3 lbs of mass gained from my P-magster, if that.

No need to jump on a prohormone cycle every time the board starts talking about it. And there were studies in an issue of the New Exercise Journal (I believe its from Penn University, but Im not positive) that showed gains from steroid use dwindled after week 8, regardless of the toxicity or potency of the roid. Im not sure if the journal hit on orals vs injectable, but its out there if you have JSTOR or EBSCOhost. I downloaded it when I researched my first ever cycle...(ahhh H-drol - you'll always be my first.....) and just skimmed it as I was looking for stuff.
 
MikeGfilms said:
Ok im really starting to fed up with all the bashing on this man...for what? because he posts a lot of threads?!? THIS IS WHAT FORUMS ARE FOR. Hes curious, so what. If you dont like it and have to bash on someone every time they ask a question, get your immature @ss out of her and go to a different forum where we all wont have to waste our time reading your bullsh!t flame posts.
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Secondary account... go back and sign in as the other.
 
sure I will be glad to post some pics- lemme go borrow a friends digi and I will post them....and man people are going to bash let em I dont really care- yeah Im curious and with learning comes mistakes so I really aint trippin- but thanks for being a mature upright man dude
 
well **** it I dont care if i have a question I would rather find out the right way to do something then forge ahead and **** myself up- im going to get the digital camera to upload for all the haters!


Gotta love haters they make me famous
 
Enjoy being famous for being annoying. The reason (mikeg) that we bitch is because his "curiosity" could be easily be satiated by a google search.
 
deadaim said:
Enjoy being famous for being annoying. The reason (mikeg) that we bitch is because his "curiosity" could be easily be satiated by a google search.
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Well then i guess sch should use google before posting in here, but ive just been getting tired of seeing so many ppl on here lately jumping the gun so quick on others when they post something asking a simple question. I was originally going to make a big rant thread, but said f*ck it.
 
Oh schwel does use google search- quite often! And deadaim gimmie about 45 mins for the pics! I know u think Im lying about weighing in over 200- well that thought will be put to rest my friend!
 
One of schwellingtons last questions was resolved when a user told him to "read the label", and that was the end of it...

go ahead and rant if you want, im sure someone cares.
 
Heres the images deadaim- For everyone else I do not have images before I started the epi/11 oxo summer cut but imagine me 5 lbs heavier with water weight!
 

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Well thats that- wiegh in at 210 in my first day of pct
 
shwell....... just read thru the thread,

not hatin, but dude, i can't believe you thought up this crazy cycle, post it up as a thread and then back outta it after you popped you're first dose.

dude, you really gotta start planning you're cycles, and roll with it, ur using steroids, theres gonna be some sides. talking about when u backed outta sd.

sd kicks a$$, lol. just quit freakin out, know what i mean brotha?
 
yeah I hear you brotha Know you aint hatin I got some work to do well aware of that

I cant believe I thought it up either- Im known to be crazy by those who know me in Real life- but also known to have good intentions and caring about others


Live and learn


Ps. I am going to try sd again in the future starting out at a 5 mg dose


who makes that **** in 5mgs anyways?
 
pp's superdrone i think would be great for you, then you could adjust the dosages however you want,

very legit sd too. i just so happen to have a few bottles as well.
 
i have some superdrone i am wanting to get rid of too if anyone wants them lemme know.... and schwell i'd be really surprised if no one hasn't suggested this already but why don't you just RUN AN INJECTABLE CYCLE?
 
I dont use needles- Im not scared of them i use to mainline meth


I dont anymore lol but it brings back to many memories


You asked lol
 
I used to use IV drugs too, and don't anymore... I can tell you that IM injections are different, and don't provoke the same kind of response in me that IV injections do. But I understand and respect your not wanting to use needles for that reason.

If you're looking to do a long oral cycle, from what I have read on a few boards online, most of long oral cycles seem to be Anavar. it's not overly liver toxic and the guys say that at high doses it's like tren without the sides. you might look into it
 
Schwellington you need to hit a more advanced physique before you decide it's worth it to tear up your body with retarded cycles. I mean **** my cycle is getting ridiculous but at least it's not retarded, and at least I'm rockin some decent stats to show for it.
 
First of all... Hump! LG! that's my ****!!! but we rock the blue round here ;)

Second.. Schwell... If the 'drol was too much buddy, how did you think you were gonna fair on this cycle? You blame it on the addict, on the addict.. But this is some serious sh1t we're talking about here. We're not stacking otc test boosters and drinkin mountain dew before the gym getting jacked on caffeine and sugar, these are anabolics and I think that you need to calm yourself down. In general bro.. Im not hatin on you but gotdamnn half of the **** people are saying to you i gotta agree with. Nothing wrong with asking questions but I ask questions when I do some searching and get mixed answers

and i TOLD you who makes the 5mg sd, there's even a log of it going on right now, shows how little you were listening bro...

gon' send me that bottle of SD so I can use it as a kickstart bro lol
 
i still rock the lrg tho lol

lrg and ones.. and a white tee thats all youll see me in lol

the way i dress you couldnt tell im swole, then the shirt comes off and theyre like

"DAMN HES STRONG.... and pretty fat" LMAO
 
SouthernCharm said:
i still rock the lrg tho lol

lrg and ones.. and a white tee thats all youll see me in lol

the way i dress you couldnt tell im swole, then the shirt comes off and theyre like

"DAMN HES STRONG.... and pretty fat" LMAO
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lmao! yea i hate these dudes that are fillin out there ae and hollister shirts and think they're big.. lol. i couldn't even get in one of those. haha.
 
SouthernCharm said:
First of all... Hump! LG! that's my ****!!! but we rock the blue round here ;)

Second.. Schwell... If the 'drol was too much buddy, how did you think you were gonna fair on this cycle? You blame it on the addict, on the addict.. But this is some serious sh1t we're talking about here. We're not stacking otc test boosters and drinkin mountain dew before the gym getting jacked on caffeine and sugar, these are anabolics and I think that you need to calm yourself down. In general bro.. Im not hatin on you but gotdamnn half of the **** people are saying to you i gotta agree with. Nothing wrong with asking questions but I ask questions when I do some searching and get mixed answers

and i TOLD you who makes the 5mg sd, there's even a log of it going on right now, shows how little you were listening bro...

gon' send me that bottle of SD so I can use it as a kickstart bro lol
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I feel like a little kid getting lectured by SCHOOL TEACHERS! FUKC MAN! I know what I did was stupid! Shiat No doubt I admitt it lets let it GO!

Done and over with

And southern I do not think ur hatin' man, I like u ur a chill dude

No I aint sendin you my bottle!

I am going to run SD again in liquid form this time the right dosing protocol

Which Im sure my ass will get flamed again!

But go ahead flamers!!

And yes the schwell does want to keep it street legal, and Gnasty its cool that you understand where im comin from preciate it

And Unreal- I know Im through with my dumbasz Ideas- Im going to just stick to what has worked for other people


There thats that!
 
i hope my sh1t didnt sound like a lecture we love your retarded ass haha

but seriously.... send that mdrol since youre gonna do the liquid lol

ill be southern charm the superdrol babysitter
 
LOL naw I know it was outta love mayne....all good dude....I already sold it :( otherwise I would pass it along to you- but if the liquid dont work out- well its urs- and Im going to dose it right this time

5-10/10/20/0/0/0
Epi-0/0/30/40/50/50

If at that dosing I still get crazy sides its urs my man
 
i just realized that absolutely none of this would have happened if you had cycled SD like I told you after you PM'd me about it.

Moral of this thread: do what Unreal says.
 
UnrealMachine said:
i just realized that absolutely none of this would have happened if you had cycled SD like I told you after you PM'd me about it.

Moral of this thread: do what Unreal says.
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I can agree- I will do what you say regarding steroids from here on out....but in other areas of my life thats between me and God........DAMN U UNREAL U WHERE RIGHT!
 
no, doesn't matter what oral you switch too.

if you use 6 weeks of sd at 20mg e/d, and then another 6 weeks after that use m14add/epistane you aren't going to gain another 10 lbs.

I'm sorry, but maybe you'll put on 5 after the 6 weeks, but most likely will loose it pct.

I believe you are thinking injectables unreal.

but orals, no, all you will do is increase side effects, but not continue gains.
 
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