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SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

Ive read about the "healing power" of ostrine, but I was recently reading about guys having similar experience with LGD. Others said that was a bunch of BS, anyone have any experience with LGD healing lingering injurious?
 
Joe12 said:
Ive read about the "healing power" of ostrine, but I was recently reading about guys having similar experience with LGD. Others said that was a bunch of BS, anyone have any experience with LGD healing lingering injurious?
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Ostarine doesn't heal sh*t. Doubt LGD does either. Get BPC-157.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Ostarine doesn't heal sh*t. Doubt LGD does either. Get BPC-157.
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I had a bad back injury that significantly improved while on osta, I definitely believe in its healing properties. Never heard of lgd contributing to any kind of healing nor have I experienced these benefits. Just my personal experience.
 
yates84 said:
I had a bad back injury that significantly improved while on osta, I definitely believe in its healing properties. Never heard of lgd contributing to any kind of healing nor have I experienced these benefits. Just my personal experience.
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What dose provided that healing?
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Ostarine doesn't heal sh*t. Doubt LGD does either. Get BPC-157.
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yates84 said:
I had a bad back injury that significantly improved while on osta, I definitely believe in its healing properties. Never heard of lgd contributing to any kind of healing nor have I experienced these benefits. Just my personal experience.
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Both of your experiences reflect what I have read, mixed. I read several cases about osta ability to speed up recovery, and just a few regarding LGD. I was mainly curious bc I plan to begin a run of LGD next week, and have a lingering injury..
 
And it may depend on where/what is busted. 2866 did nothing for my Golfer's Elbow, but helped Yates' back. BPC-157 healed my elbow, but did nothing for my Achilles. Weird thing, this body of ours :)
 
The_Old_Guy said:
And it may depend on where/what is busted. 2866 did nothing for my Golfer's Elbow, but helped Yates' back. BPC-157 healed my elbow, but did nothing for my Achilles. Weird thing, this body of ours :)
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So the elbow is healed up? That was a nice run you did with bpc. somehow i got unsubscribed from the thread.
 
EMPIREMIND said:
So the elbow is healed up? That was a nice run you did with bpc. somehow i got unsubscribed from the thread.
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It is. Haven't gone 1-3 Reps yet though, my faith in chemicals only goes so far. But 4-7 was fine. Injecting it must be great if swallowing worked this well - I hope I don't need to try it though :D
 
GreenMachineX said:
What dose provided that healing?
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I was running 20mg at the time but I've ran osta at 15 and even 10mg before with joint relief at all doses. I really believe less is more when it comes to osta dosing, 10mg treated better than 20mg.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
It is. Haven't gone 1-3 Reps yet though, my faith in chemicals only goes so far. But 4-7 was fine. Injecting it must be great if swallowing worked this well - I hope I don't need to try it though :D
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Thanks for the info, didn't know you could take bpc orally. Very cool.
 
Hercules1982 said:
Good luck! I assume it is a lean bulk? While I have included LGD (together with Osta and 11-andro) in a cutting stack with great success, some claim that it is not optimal as a stand-alone cutter.
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Just mostly for strength. I was also under the impression that it's not a good cutter. After I run it solo, I'll probably try it with osta. Was it nice?
 
Audioph1x said:
Just mostly for strength. I was also under the impression that it's not a good cutter. After I run it solo, I'll probably try it with osta. Was it nice?
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I used LGD, Osta and 11-andro for a cut last year, worked wonderful.
This year I am cutting on LGD, Osta, MK-2877 and GW-1516, looking very good so far.
 
About to begin an LGD run on Monday and noticed some guys stacking HCGenerate on week 3 or 4 as a test base.

I'm planing to run Aromacare pro on cycle, and have Testify on hand. Would it be better to run testify around week 3 to fight lethargy and keeping the libido high, or just save it for my PCT?
 
Save it for PCT. I doubt a Test Booster works at all when ON-cycle. Otherwise it would be possible to run a SERM as Test-Base which is plain rediculus.
 
Bunshichi said:
Save it for PCT. I doubt a Test Booster works at all when ON-cycle. Otherwise it would be possible to run a SERM as Test-Base which is plain rediculus.
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Using testify during my PCT is the plan. Just wondering why HCGenerate (natty) is being stacked on cycle. I see people doing it all over other forms.
 
I'm not exactly sure what HCGenerate contains but some Herbs make life more enjoiable throug pathways not related to Testosterone
 
Joe12 said:
Using testify during my PCT is the plan. Just wondering why HCGenerate (natty) is being stacked on cycle. I see people doing it all over other forms.
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It's a hoax, nothing prevents suppression. Hcgenerate is only recommended on one forum because of company reps that like to trick newbs into buying that useless junk. If you really have to use fadogia (main ingredient in Hcgenerate) then there are much cheaper options like t force. Just my opinion.
 
Joe12 said:
Using testify during my PCT is the plan. Just wondering why HCGenerate (natty) is being stacked on cycle. I see people doing it all over other forms.
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Like Yates said, to sell supplements. If your natural production is suppressed due to Anabolic/Androgenic compounds binding to the receptors (which is what suppresses you via the Hypothalmus) - no plant will make your Hypothalmus forget all the receptor binding going on, and start talking to the Pituitary. And even if that were true, what would it get you? DAA shows 40% in hypo men (in *1* study) - what's 40% of 200? A Test Base replaces your endogenous production by being converted by enzymes into Test/DHT - plants don't convert into Test/DHT. hCG could be thought of as a "LH Base", but it's a Rx Drug and again, no plant converts to LH.
 
yates84 said:
It's a hoax, nothing prevents suppression. Hcgenerate is only recommended on one forum because of company reps that like to trick newbs into buying that useless junk. If you really have to use fadogia (main ingredient in Hcgenerate) then there are much cheaper options like t force. Just my opinion.
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The_Old_Guy said:
Like Yates said, to sell supplements. If your natural production is suppressed due to Anabolic/Androgenic compounds binding to the receptors (which is what suppresses you via the Hypothalmus) - no plant will make your Hypothalmus forget all the receptor binding going on, and start talking to the Pituitary. And even if that were true, what would it get you? DAA shows 40% in hypo men (in *1* study) - what's 40% of 200? A Test Base replaces your endogenous production by being converted by enzymes into Test/DHT - plants don't convert into Test/DHT. hCG could be thought of as a "LH Base", but it's a Rx Drug and again, no plant converts to LH.
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Thanks, guys! That's what I thought, figured LGD would trample over any natty product. Just noticed that one site pushing it hard.
 
Guys, need help with cardarine.

Been losing about 1-1,5lb last few weeks.
Bought cardarine to speed up the proces.
Used it for 5 days.
Problem is, i gained around 1lb since i m on cardarine, and on 4th and 5th day i could hardly do my work out, could do only about the 60 % of training i normaly do.
Everything is same as usualy, the deit, training, only thing that changed is i added cardarine.

I thought cardarine would help with fat lose and lifting, but atm its the opposite
 
The increase in weight is definitely not a direct effect of the cardarine.
The problem in your workout may be because cardarine lowers blood sugar levels and blood pressure and because of thirst it causes.

How much did you take?
Strong effects after day 5 are a little unlikely.

After all Cardarine is only an endurance booster which gives you the power to do more to burn fat but will not burn anything by itself.
 
Bunshichi said:
After all Cardarine is only an endurance booster which gives you the power to do more to burn fat but will not burn anything by itself.
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This is highly debatable. Ppar antatgonist and at certain dosages will definitely burn fat. Certainly extra output only helps but the buck doesnt stop there.
 
Bunshichi said:
The increase in weight is definitely not a direct effect of the cardarine.
The problem in your workout may be because cardarine lowers blood sugar levels and blood pressure and because of thirst it causes.

How much did you take?
Strong effects after day 5 are a little unlikely.

After all Cardarine is only an endurance booster which gives you the power to do more to burn fat but will not burn anything by itself.
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Taking 20mg a day , 45min-1h prior to workout.
 
Drop the dose to 10mg. EMPIREMIND it shifts the source of the energy to fat. But that is totally unimportant for losing fat because the sugar that is now not used will be stored as fat.
 
Because when you cant bring your full potential in training the dose is too high for you.

Btw you should measure your bloodpressure especially around training.
 
Bunshichi said:
Because when you cant bring your full potential in training the dose is too high for you.

Btw you should measure your bloodpressure especially around training.
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GW is known for lowering bp, works great for mine when I run it.
 
yates84 said:
GW is known for lowering bp, works great for mine when I run it.
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Thats the reason he should measure it. Too low blood pressure is usually not a concern as it only is too low if you feel bad usually. But it can impair possible power output so its a good thing to be sure your cardiovascular system is working totally normal when using GW.

I would also suggest measuring blood sugar but its unlikely hes got the equipment.
 
EMPIREMIND said:
What sugar?
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There are alot of variables that should be considered before saying that. Low carb to no carb diets, other drugs being used in conjunction, its not cut and dry. This has its place and people successfully use it. Idk if fat burning is its strong point, but it is an attribute.
 
EMPIREMIND said:
What sugar?
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Blood sugar. Essentially Glucose floating aroung your blood entering the cells in need to be usig in cell respiration providing ATP and therefore energy.
If GW is used the cells uses more fatty acids that enter as Acetyl CoA into the citratcycle than normal so to get the same amount ATP less Glucose is used.
The Glucose that is not used however will be stored as bodyfat.
So in the end its only important for the energy provinding and so for endurance but not for total energy use.
 
Bunshichi said:
Blood sugar. Essentially Glucose floating aroung your blood entering the cells in need to be usig in cell respiration providing ATP and therefore energy.
If GW is used the cells uses more fatty acids that enter as Acetyl CoA into the citratcycle than normal so to get the same amount ATP less Glucose is used.
The Glucose that is not used however will be stored as bodyfat.
So in the end its only important for the energy provinding and so for endurance but not for total energy use.
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See post before this^
 
Bunshichi said:
Thats the reason he should measure it. Too low blood pressure is usually not a concern as it only is too low if you feel bad usually. But it can impair possible power output so its a good thing to be sure your cardiovascular system is working totally normal when using GW.

I would also suggest measuring blood sugar but its unlikely hes got the equipment.
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Agree completely.
 
EMPIREMIND said:
There are alot of variables that should be considered before saying that. Low carb to no carb diets, other drugs being used in conjunction, its not cut and dry. This has its place and people successfully use it. Idk if fat burning is its strong point, but it is an attribute.
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Absolutely. GW is a really nice substance and if it wasn't for the money I would use it really often.
Its great to add endurance making bigger calorie deficits possible (however I only like the feeling on GW when I eat a whole lot of carbs and it makes me hungry as fuuuaarrrk). It lowers bp pretty powerful and is a nice support for most AAS cycles.

I'm just saying it does not cause fat loss just by taking it.
 
Bunshichi said:
Absolutely. GW is a really nice substance and if it wasn't for the money I would use it really often.
Its great to add endurance making bigger calorie deficits possible (however I only like the feeling on GW when I eat a whole lot of carbs and it makes me hungry as fuuuaarrrk). It lowers bp pretty powerful and is a nice support for most AAS cycles.

I'm just saying it does not cause fat loss just by taking it.
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Thats funny. I was running it on a keto diet. At 10mg for a few weeks before cardio. I was hungry as all h3ll like u said, that part sucked. However the acute endurance effects were incredible. Around 20 spm increase on my base cardio speed on the arc trainer. I was losing weight regardless so idk much if any i can contribute to gw.
 
It will HELP it will just not burn fat by itself.
The usual points of a diet are just as important as ever, if not even more.
 
Has anybody noticed if Rad or lgd has raised their blood pressure? Just making sure because my BP was up recently but I'll be starting a cycle soon.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Has anybody noticed if Rad or lgd has raised their blood pressure? Just making sure because my BP was up recently but I'll be starting a cycle soon.
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Definitely does for me. Actually Rad seems to effect me more than LGD. Had to abort my last LGD /Rad cycle at 5 weeks as BP was too high. Triggered when I upped Rad from 8mg to 12mg. (All my usual BP supports didn't seem to cut it that time.)
 
GreenMachineX said:
Has anybody noticed if Rad or lgd has raised their blood pressure? Just making sure because my BP was up recently but I'll be starting a cycle soon.
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Ive experimented with various RAD doses, and it definitely raises my BP moreso than LGD. Once I started dosing upwards of 20mg it got very high. Dont think I will ever go over 16mg/d again.
 
PeteRyde said:
Definitely does for me. Actually Rad seems to effect me more than LGD. Had to abort my last LGD /Rad cycle at 5 weeks as BP was too high. Triggered when I upped Rad from 8mg to 12mg. (All my usual BP supports didn't seem to cut it that time.)
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NewAgeMayan said:
Ive experimented with various RAD doses, and it definitely raises my BP moreso than LGD. Once I started dosing upwards of 20mg it got very high. Dont think I will ever go over 16mg/d again.
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Guess I won't be running rad then. I just aborted my 1-Andro/epiandro cycle due to high BP. The other times I ran rad I didn't track my blood pressure, I will be from here forward.
 
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