Roland-a-joint's MASS FX Log (sponsored)

Day 12 - 10 / 18 / 08

TRAINING
CALVES
Seated Calf Extensions
100 x 20
140 x 15
180 x 15
220 x 12
260 x 12

Standing Single Calf Raises (each leg)
BW x 12
BW x 12
BW+25lb plate x 12

Seat Calf Raises
90lbs x 15
135 x 12 (super slow, held peak contraction held for 1 second)

TRAPS
DB Shrugs -superset- hammer strength pull down (viking grip) each arm
80's x 15
100's x 15
120s x 12 -superset- 90lb x 12 E.A.
120's x 12 -superset- 90 x 12 E.A.
120's x 12 -superset- 90 x 12
120's x 10 -drop- 100's x 12 -drop- 80's x 13

BB Behind-the-back Shrugs
135 x 20
225 x 15
225 x 15
225 x 12

ABS
Crunches -superset-Hanging Knee Raises
BW x 15 -superset- BW x 15
BW x 15 -superset- BW x 12
BW x 15 -superset- BW x 12

Rope Crunches -superset- Side Bends
140 x 20 -superset- 25lb plate x 20 (each side)
160 x 15 -superset- 45lb plate x 15 (each side)
180 x 15 -superset- 45lb plate x 15 (each side)
200 x 15 -superset- 35lb plate + 25lb plate (each side)

NOTES
pretty epic workout. pretty fast paced, high volume, perfect form, amazing pump. i was getting some sick vascularity. the vein in my left shoulder looked like snake and all the veins in my arms were way more visible than normal.

libido is still high. aggression is getting a little higher along with focus, but only in the gym. durign the rest of the day i have an elevated mood, good focus, good energy, did i mention libido?

this week im going to do my best in replicating all exercises from week 1 to do a strength evaluation do gauge progress as im about half way thru the bottle right now.
 
Day 13 - 10 / 19 / 08

today was an off day. had my mexican side of the family over for my grandma's 80th birthday. had tamales, rice, beans, and threw back a beer or two with some cousins and uncles.

also, im experiencing crazy DOMS in my traps, calves, and abs. i cant remember the last time i had DOMS in my abs to be honest. im responding really well to the higher volume, and it doesnt seem to be hinding gains as im feeling fuller, shirts are tighter, boxers are a little tighter around my thighs, and my pants feel the same, so im very happy with my progress so far. and its only been 2 full weeks.

chest and tris tmrw. :woohoo:
 
I don't know how you guys do those behind the back shrugs. I hate those things. I never feel comfortable doing them.

Sounds like a good day off. I LOVE Mexican food. It's the best cheat food there is. That reminds me that I have to stop by this place called Los Ponchos. It's the top rated Mexican restaurant in the area and I keep forgetting to try it. It's right on the water. Looks real good.
 
damn bro nice weights youre pushin!
 
I don't know how you guys do those behind the back shrugs. I hate those things. I never feel comfortable doing them.

Sounds like a good day off. I LOVE Mexican food. It's the best cheat food there is. That reminds me that I have to stop by this place called Los Ponchos. It's the top rated Mexican restaurant in the area and I keep forgetting to try it. It's right on the water. Looks real good.
i took me a while to get a good feeling from behind the back shrugs, but now i love them. i use it as a final move, or as a higher rep move because going too heavy is just too uncomfortable.
 
heres a picture of one of the many plates of food i had at my family get together.

tamales, spanish rice, and beans.
 

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its definitely a lot better. doesnt really click anymore. doesnt hurt all day like it used to. still a little bit of pain, but its minimal. i definitely need to get a closer look at it tho. only problem is i cant get an appointment until about 3 weeks from now. until then im just avoiding movements that cause pain as best i can.

youve also reminded me to write up the mini-review for osteo sport. ill get cracking on that this week when midterms are finally over.

thanks for the support too. im also really happy with how its going so far. and im not even half way done yet!

That's an improvement, for sure. I know that it's helped the irritation of my right biceps tendon, and my hips and knees...Pain management, all good.

Just whenever you have the time. You can post it here (and in the Applied Nutriceuticals section, if you like).

You're welcome. It's important having a great supprt crew :)
 
No joke. I think I use 15s. How in the hell are you controlling those things?
when you are sitting and doing them bent over(no homo), and the weights start under your knees, you can do a decent amount of weight. and my arms arent straight. my elbows are probably bent at like 135º. i think you guys are thinking im doing like straight arm, super strict reverse flyes, where it nearly imitates doing em on the pec dec. this may call for a video.
 
Hey cant wait to see the results! I am doing the same thing you are doin, How much weight have you gained? I am on day 8, and have gained 4.5 lbs and noticed bigger pumps and stength increase. Enjoy!

---I also started eating ALOT, along with HIGH protein intake, lol
 
TRAINING
Here are my numbers from week 1 for chest:
D-handle cable flyes (weight listed is on each arm)
40 x 15
60 x 15
80 x 12
70 x 12
-superset-
one arm d-handle tricep pushdowns (a warm up exercise to get the blood flowin on those babies!)
70 x 12
70 x 12
80 x 12
80 x 12

Push-Ups (feet elevated, shoulder width grip on dumbbells)
22, 17, 16

Low Cable Flyes
25 x 20
30 x 20
35 x 15

High Cable Crossovers (slow movements 1 second hold at peak contraction)
30 x 15
40 x 15
40 x 12

And here are tonights numbers for chest:
D-Handle Cable Flyes (weight is for each arm)
30 x 20
50 x 12
70 x 12
80 x 12 (UP!)

Push-Ups (feet elevated, shoulder width grip on dumbells)
BW x 26 (+4)
BW x 20
BW x 15
BW x 12

Low Cable Flyes
30 x 12
40 x 12 (UP!)
50 x 11 (UP!)
50 x 11 (UP!)

High Cable Crossovers
40 x 15 (UP!)
50 x 12 (UP!)
60 x 12 (UP!)
70 x 12 (UP!) -drop- 50 x 8 -drop- 30 x 12

:woohoo: :D so fcukin stoked on alllll of these numbers!


Here are my numbers for week 1 triceps:
Rope Pushdowns
100 x 12
140 x 12
200 x 10
200 x 8
160 x 10
160 x 10

Reverse Grip, EZ Bar Cable pushdowns
100 x 12
140 x 12
180 x 10
180 x 8

Dips
BW x 12
BW x 10
BW x 9

And here are tonights number for triceps:
Rope Pushdowns
80 x 12
120 x 12
160 x 12
200 x 12 (UP!) (PR!)
200 x 12 (UP!) (PR!)

EZ Bar Reverse Cable Pushdowns
100 x 12
140 x 12
180 x 12 (UP!) (PR!)
200 x 12 (UP!) (PR!)
200 x 10
140 x 12

Dips
BW x 2 haha. there was nothing left. but i had to try.

NOTES
well, i think i am seeing the very positive benefits of mass fx now. even more so. this is my mid-"cycle" evaluation, and it is much better than i anticipated. i set PR's tonight, had significant gains in not only strength, but endurance. i think the numbers speak for themselves. im still on a high and i finished lifting about 2 hours ago, but ive still got a huge smile on my face.

and, besides the strength increases, i still appear to be getting a little bigger, little by little. everything is starting to fit a little bit tighter. ill check my weight tmrw morning, but im still relatively lean, despite not eating completely clean, and despite eating WAYYY more carbohydrates than i am used to. im probably consuming about 3500 cals right now, and about 200-300 grams of carbs per day. so im actually responding a lot better to the increased carb intake than i had imagined.

im not really sure what else to comment on. i mean im going up in strength, going up in weight, and staying lean. what more could i ask for? i imagine this is what actually being on the juice is like, but scaled down a bit haha.

tmrw is shoulders and maybe calves. ill probably just do shoulers and leave it at that.
 
Hey, I thought you were supposed to be rehabbing. You're not supposed to be hitting PR's!! :lol: Nice work, bro!! :clap2:
 
Nice work, man. Sounds like you're really enjoying your cycle. Keep up the great work, and keep cashin' in on the extra oomph that MassFX is givin' ya.
 
Lookin good holmie. And I think I understand how you are doing your reverse lateral raises - kind of like a row right? Hits upper middle back/rhomboids more but the delts def get worked too. You ever do strict straight arm reverse lateral raises?
 
Lookin good holmie. And I think I understand how you are doing your reverse lateral raises - kind of like a row right? Hits upper middle back/rhomboids more but the delts def get worked too. You ever do strict straight arm reverse lateral raises?
sort of. i mean my form is about the same as it would be with chest flyes, except reverse. so im still primarily hittin the delts, but the back definitely sees a bit of action. i feel it more in my delts than my back. it took me awhile to get the feeling in the rear delts, but its been good for developement so far.

and i do strict movements on the cables, one arm at a time. i switch between the two.
 
ill get yesterdays update going later today.

im taking today off of lifting. felt a little overwhelmed with training past couple days.

going with my girl right now for a trail run tho.
 
Day 15 - 10 / 21 / 08

TRAINING
SHOULDERS
Cable Upright Rows
80 x 15
100 x 12
140 x 12
180 x 12
200 x 12 (UP!)
160 x 12 (2 sec up, 2 sec down)
140 x 12 (2 sec up, 2 sec down)

Tri-Set: DB Front Raise - DB Shrug - DB Swing
15's x 12 - 80's x 10 - 60 x 10
20's x 12 - 80 s x 12 - 60 x 10
15's x 12 - 80's x 12 - 60 x 10

Cable Side Raises (each arm)
10 x 12
15 x 10 x 2
10 x 12 (3 sec up, 3 sec down)

Bent Over Reverse DB Flyes
30's x 12
45's x 10
40's x 12
30's x 12 (peak contraction on each rep held for one count)

NOTES
was a so so workout. shoulder was feeling a little iffy. but i still managed to pull off a PR, and show a strength increase, so im cool with that.

pump was good, aggression was good, endurance was alright, recovery felt a little bit quicker in between sets. also worked out with my friend james who is getting back into the gym. hopefully well be able to work out together more often.

libido is still good. im leaning out more i think. my midsection has been looking a little leaner each day. vascularity also appears to be increased throughout the day, and the muscle hardening is getting a little better as the days go by.
 
Day 16 - 10 / 22 / 08

took the day off. was feeling a bit overwhelmed with training. went for a trail run with my girlfriend. it was 5 or 6 miles of hell.
 
Day 17 - 10 / 23 / 08

today was supposed to be back and abs. was looking forward to deads.

however i had an orthodontist appointment today and my teeth were hurting so bad i have had one solid meal out of 4 meals. and that was right after my appointment at 7am. rest of the day ive been sleeping and doing nothing.

tmrw ill continue with back and abs. saturday will be bis and forearms. sunday will be legs and traps probably.
 
Lookn good man! Did I see right? but did you say in Shadow's thread that you can flat db bench 100's?!
 
sh1t bro! How much did you weigh? Got any pics?
 
that was around 182 during my drive/rpm run.

the picture below is from april of this year.
 

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Day 18 - 10 / 24 / 08

TRAINING
BACK
Here are my numbers from week one:
Deadlifts
135 x 12
185 x 12
225 x 12
275 x 6
295 x 3
315 x 2

One Arm DB Rows
70 x 10
100 x 10
110 x 10
120 x 8

EZ Bar Underhand Cable Row
120 x 12
150 x 12
180 x 12
210 x 10
And here are my numbers from week 3
Deadlift
135 x 6
185 x 6
225 x 6
275 x 6
315 x 6 (PR!)
335 x 4 (PR!)

One Arm DB Row
80 x 10
100 x 10
120 x 12 (UP!) (PR!)
120 x 10
120 x 8

EZ Curl Bar Underhand Grip Row
135 x 12
165 x 12
195 x 12
225 x 10 (UP!) (PR!)

Close Grip Pull-Ups
BW x 8
BW x 7

ABS
Sit-Up -superset- Knee Raises
BW x 20 -superset- BW x 14
BW x 12 -superset- BW x 12
BW x 12 -superset- BW x 12

NOTES
well, the numbers speak for themselves. today was PR city, and i was the f*ckin mayor haha.

315 x 6, well this actually felt kinda light to me. still very heavy, but at the same time, i didnt feel like it as nearly as challenging as 2 weeks ago. and then i was so amped that i put 20 more lbs on and pulled off another 4 reps! now i was definitely not expecting to be able to do that today. but i did. and i can only imagine what another 2 weeks will bring. im going to shoot for a set of 2 or 3 reps at 355. which would be huge for me.

um, everything has been about the same. libido seems to b going down a little bit. aggression, focus, pump, all were solid today which made for an workout of epic proportions.

im lookin fuller, a little bit leaner, im staying around 188-189. probably still hovering around 11-12% bf, which i attribute to the MASS FX because my diet has not been spot on. its been good, but not good enough to be having these kind of strength and muscle gains.

tmrw will be biceps and forearms. and saturday will be legs and traps.
 
pretty intense DOMS in my lower and middle back today. feels great. hitting biceps and forearms in a bit. then ive got my aunt and uncles 25th anniversary party tonight. should be LOTS of good food.
 
pretty intense DOMS in my lower and middle back today. feels great. hitting biceps and forearms in a bit. then ive got my aunt and uncles 25th anniversary party tonight. should be LOTS of good food.

I love food-filled family gatherings!

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Day 19 - 10 / 25 / 08

did biceps and forearms today. it was a sub par workout, but i still managed a PR haha. it was very messy and unorganized and i had no intensity whatsoever, not to mention i dont even remember what i did or what weights i used because i was so pissed i didnt bother to write anything down in my log. SIGH. f*ck i hate these days.

tmrw will be legs, hopefully ill be able to pick up the intensity and ill have a more alpha male type workout like ive BEEN having.

off to get a haircut. then party :djparty:
 
Day 20 - 10 / 26 / 08

TRAINING
QUADS
Squats
135 x 12
185 x 10
225 x 6 (UP!)
245 x 4 (UP!)
185 x 6

Hack Squat (Feet together on upper half of platform, going ass-to-platform)
90 x 12
130 x 12
180 x 10
180 x 8

HAMSTRINGS
DB Stiff Leg Deadlift
45's x 12
65's x 12
80's x 12

continued pyramiding up using an ez curl bar

165 x 12
185 x 12
215 x 12
95 x 10 (2 sec down, 2 sec up)

CALVES
for calves i did the "VOLCOM DEATH STRETCH" routine. and well it was death.

Seated Calf Raises
30 reps, then a 1 minute long stretch in the bottom position of the movement where the calves are fully stretched out.

2 plates, neutral foot position
2 plates, toes in
1 plate, 1 25lb, toes out

NOTES
well my calves were definitely toast, along with the rest of my leg. now that im looking at the workout again, it doesnt look like i did much. i kinda stopped myself because i was feeling good, and my legs were shaking after i finished hack squats and SLDL, so i felt that i had sufficiently worked my legs.

squats went well, but im still kinda figuring it all out. im definitely improving each time, but i still need a lot of work. and my wrists hurt like hell after each set. if someone can give me a few pointers, im allllllll ears.

pump was real good. focus was good. aggression was good. my music even paused for my entire 225 set, right at the beginning, and i did the whole set with no outside forces fueling my aggression, and i gotta say, i sound like a panzy when i grunt during lifting haha. oh well. it get it done. thats all that matters.
 
Day 21 - 10 / 27 / 08

TRAINING
CHEST
Cable Flyes
40 x 15
60 x 12
80 x 10

Feet Elevated Barbell Push-Ups
shoulder width grip x 20
slightly wider than shoulder width x 20
shoulder width x 16
slightly wider than shoulder width x 12

Incline DB Supinated Flyes
10's x 12
17.5's x 10
12.5's x 12

Seated Dip Machine, Outer Grip
128 x 12
188 x 12
188 x 12 -superset- 10 push ups
188 x 10 -drop- 143 x 10 -drop- 103 x 10

TRICEPS
Decline Skull Crushers with EZ Curl Bar
55 x 12
65 x 12 -superset- CG Press 65 x 12
65 x 12 -superset- CG Press 65 x 10

D-Handle One Arm Cable Pushdowns
50 x 12
70 x 10
90 x 8
90 x 8 + 2 momentum reps with a 3 sec negative

"Close-Grip-Row-Handle" Cable Pushdowns
60 x 12
100 x 12
120 x 12
100 x 12 (2 sec down, 2 sec up)
80 x 10 (3 sec down, 3 sec up)

Close Grip EZ Bar Attachment Pushdowns
160 x 13 -drop- 130 x 8 -drop- 100 x 8

NOTES
had an INCREDIBLE pump the whole workout. arms felt almost too heavy to move, chest felt like it was blown up to twice its size. shoulder felt a little uncomfortable, but it wasnt bad at all. i owe this to the osteo-sport. keeps me all lubed up (no homo).

libido is kinda going down back to normal. aggression, focus, and recovery are still going well.

and today, about 30 mins after lifting, i ate a nice meal of chicken breast, brown rice, and some veggies. and about 45 mins after that my girlfriend decided to ask me to come do a crossfit routine with her. while i tried explaining i needed to let my legs recover, and my back and chest to recover, and let my WHOLE BODY recover, she still insisted i go, so i did. heres the workout i did:

1 mile jog
50 underhand pull ups
100 step ups, each leg
100 sit ups, 50 hanging knee raises
about 20 or so sprints

it was nice doing sprints and little bit of cardio outside, but the step ups were KILLIN my hams and quads. i made it comfortable as possible tho, doing sets of 10-15. and i added a little spring using the foot which wasnt elevated.

so, all in all, my whole body is completely toast. im dead tired. and HUNGRY. ive been eating a lot today. which is nice. ill probably have around 3500-3700 cals under my belt by the end of tonight.

:donut:
 
also. important note. i decided to bump dose to 6 caps starting wednesday. will be a 2-2-2 dosing schedule. or maybe 2 morning, 3 pre w/o, and 1 at night. who knows?! i wish i had another bottle to play around with the dosing. i think it would be awesome to run this at 6 caps, or 2 weeks at 4 caps, 3 weeks at 6 caps. idk. or maybe run it alongside a bottle of divanex. sigh. i hate being broke.

/end rant.
 
also. important note. i decided to bump dose to 6 caps starting wednesday. will be a 2-2-2 dosing schedule. or maybe 2 morning, 3 pre w/o, and 1 at night. who knows?! i wish i had another bottle to play around with the dosing. i think it would be awesome to run this at 6 caps, or 2 weeks at 4 caps, 3 weeks at 6 caps. idk. or maybe run it alongside a bottle of divanex. sigh. i hate being broke.

/end rant.

fun stuff.

6 caps works pretty awesome. That's how I like to dose it, myself.
 
Day 22 - 10 / 28 / 08

TRAINING
BICEPS
Standing EZ Bar Curls
50 x 15
65 x 12
80 x 10
90 x 8
90 x 12 (wtf???)
100 x 8
100 x 7

DB Hammer Curls (Across the body)
30's x 10
45's x 10
60's x 10 (PR!)
60's x 10 (whos the shlt?! haha)
70's x 7-8 (i lost count after like 3 or 4 and then i just went til i could go anymore, which was probably 4 or 5 more reps i think)

One Arm Reverse Cable Curls
15 x 12
20 x 12
25 x 10
30 x 8
20 x 12

Close Grip EZ Bar Cable Curls
100 x 12 + 10 lower half partial reps
100 x 10 + 5 slow reps (2 sec up, 2 sec down)
120 x 12 burnout

FOREARMS
Behind the Back BB Wrist Curls
100 x 15
100 x 12 x 3

25lb Plate Pinch Upright Rows (plate in each hand)
4 sets of 12 reps

Standing DB Wrist Curls
35's x 12
50's x 10
60's x 10
37.5's x 10

DELTS
Demonic Delt Destruction (not really)
Side Raise -superset- Front Raise -superset- Rear Raises (super strict held at peak for 1 count)
All done using 15 lb DBs, 1 sec up, 1 sec down
12 - 12 - 12
12 - 12 - 12
12 - 12 - 12
12 - 12 - 12 (all 3 done to right, then all 3 done to left, 2 sec up, 2 sec down)

Cable Upright Rows
80 x 15
100 x 15

NOTES
woo baby. so i couldnt contain myself, and just decided to bump it to 6 caps today. it was VERY noticeable come gym time. pump was ridiculous, aggression was way up, focus was stim like, and i felt a lot more explosive with all my lifts. i felt like a V8, running on 10 cylinders, ya follow me?

very happy with the workout. i decided to hit bis and forearms today because i was so disappointed with my bi/forearm workout from saturday. this surpassed that workout, and then some. and i added delt because i knew i wasnt going to do a full shoulder routine because my shoulder has been feeling a little more painful than normal and i wanted to just do something light, but intense, and i succeeded in both respects.

ill have about 4 or 5 more days with 6 caps a day. so ill be ending the log this weekend.

tmw ive got deads, back, and traps. im pretty stoked. til tmrw....
 
Day 23 - 10 / 29 / 08

TRAINING
BACK
Deadlift
135 x 8
185 x 6
225 x 6
275 x 6
315 x 6
345 x 3 (PR!)
355 x 1 (PR!)

Hammer Strength Iso-Lateral Row (each arm)
90 x 12
135 x 12
180 x 10
180 x 8
135 x 12

Close Grip Pull-Ups -superset- DB Shrugs
BW x 10 -superset- 80's x 12
BW x 8 -superset- 80's x 12
BW x 8 -superset- 80's x 12

Close Grip Straight Arm Pull down
60 x 15
100 x 12
100 x 12
100 x 12
100 x 12

TRAPS
DB Shrugs
90's x 12 x 3

NOTES
second day of new dosage. libido took a nice jump. aggression seemed about the same, maybe a little bit higher. focus was excellent. pump was incredible. im still on a high after hiting 355 for a single. i didnt hit as much on the hammer strength rows, but i also did not use my straps for it like last time, and my body was pretty beat after the deads, so im not too worried about it. i was going to do some more trap stuff, but judging from from DOMS today, my traps got plenty of work from the deads.

closing in on the last couple days of MASS FX. im feeling a lot bigger. weight is around 193. shirts are tighter, sleeves are tighter, boxers are a little tighter around the leg, and my pants are fitting a little bit more snug around the waist, but im still at about a 34 waist. and with how much food im eating, im expecting fat gain. no biggy.
 
i update he before/after pciture (post # 2 on page 1).

i will be taking today off. tmrw is legs. and saturday im going to do a short full body workout, get a nice pump, and take a few more pics which will be more similar to my end of ckd pics. i want to really show ive put some size on and i dont think the one i just posted does it enough justice haha.
 
Day 24 - 10 / 30 / 08

today is an off day. going to rest my legs a bit before i hit them tmrw. might do some light cardio later tonight. maybe just take my dog for a long walk. or might do incline treadmill for 40 mins. other than that, going to be eating alllll day haha.
 
Day 25 - 10 / 31 / 08

TRAINING
QUADS
Leg Extensions
70 x 20
85 x 15
100 x 12
130 x 12 x 5

Leg Press (Narrow Stance, Mid Platform)
6 plates total x 12
8 plates total x 12
10 plates total x 12

Hack Squat (Wide Stance, High Platform)
2 plates total x 12
4 plates total x 12 x 3

HAMS
EZ Curl Stiff Leg Deadlift
75 x 12
125 x 12
175 x 12
175 x 10
125 x 12
75 x 12

CALVES
Seated Calf Raises
2 plates x 15
4 plates x 12

Seated Calf Extensions
160 x 20
240 x 12

NOTES
very good leg sesh. my wheels were tremblin walking down the stairs back to the locker room. leg press felt great. hack squat felt great. the workout was a little bit inspired by Hany Rambod's FST-7 routine, where you do 7 "pump" sets before your compound movements to get the bloood flowing. sort of a "preload". and i liked the routine very much. had a great pump in my legs the whole workout.

and the calf workout was a dave palumbo inspired routine. (just got my MD in the mail today and i was reading it before the gym haha). he says only one set of 10-12 reps at a maximum amount of weight is needed for calves, one set on seated, one set on standing. so i decided to try it out. may give a few weeks and see if i see any improvements.

anyways. been eating good today. libido took another leap today. couldnt stop thinking about.....stuff. umm focus was good, aggression was good, pump was great especially considering its usually nonexistent with leg. my legs are finally started to have a shape to them, and ive noticed a good amount of size added to em over the passed 2 months or so.

ANNNND tmrw is my last day of the log. and ill be running the rest of my 8 caps tmrw. ill dose it 2 in am, 4 pre w/o, and 2 in pm. im basically going to do a upper body workout, but im just going to be looking for the pump. probably about 4 or 5 sets of 12 for each body part, with only about 45 seconds rest in between each set. then ill take some pics for the final review. and as for the final review, im probably going to take next week off, but take a couple days for my evaluations. minus deadlift. ill keep my deadlift numbers from this week (355 x 1), and ill take a day to do squats. pushups will be done tmrw.

sad to see this log ending. maybe i could get another bottle to wipe away my tears? hint hint haha. all i know is when i get some extra cash, probably during the holidays, im gonna pick up a couple bottles of this. id really like to use it during a recomp, and coupled with hyperdrol or maybe something like rpm.
 
final update and review coming soon to a log near you.

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