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Revised Havoc PCT?? Please help

jhoney

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I am going to my first havoc cycle 10(first three days)/20/30/40 for the rest. I was planning on taking a serving inhibit-E, cycle assist, and liver assist during the cycle also, but i wasn't sure if that was needed. If something is wrong or missing, please correct/add it and suggest dosages.

PCT-
Tamoxifen (Generic Nolvadex)
Cycle assist
milk thistle
inhibit e
zma
creatine
liver assist
 
jhoney said:
I am going to my first havoc cycle 10(first three days)/20/30/40 for the rest. I was planning on taking a serving inhibit-E, cycle assist, and liver assist during the cycle also, but i wasn't sure if that was needed. If something is wrong or missing, please correct/add it and suggest dosages.

PCT-
Tamoxifen (Generic Nolvadex)
Cycle assist
milk thistle
inhibit e
zma
creatine
liver assist
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You still need to do a lot more research. You should have your entire cycle figured out long before you start it.
 
This is my plan

Pre-cycle:
multi-vitamin
joint support
liver assist
cycle assist
milk thistle
protein

During cycle:
havoc
milk thistle
cycle assist
vitamins
joint supps
inhibit E
liver assist
protein

POST CYCLE:
Tamoxifen
inhibit E
cycle assist
livver assist
zma
creatine
protein
 
Cycle assist already has milk thistle. Run CA and liver support on cycle. Also, if you develop back or shin pumps you will want to get some Taurine to aid in bloodflow to those areas.

Cycle looks good.
 
sorry this might be a stupid question, but what is CA? and is my liver assist enough for my liver support on cycle?
 
jhoney said:
sorry this might be a stupid question, but what is CA? and is my liver assist enough for my liver support on cycle?
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CA = Cycle Assist
And yes the liver assist should do just fine.

Also, you may consider adding a natty test booster for PCT. Maybe roll some bulk DAA, TCF-1, Testatropin v2, Testopro etc. (pick one, bulk daa is real cheap at nutra)
 
This is my plan

Pre-cycle:
multi-vitamin
joint support
liver assist one serving 2x daily
cycle assist one serving 2x daily
milk thistle
protein

During cycle:
havoc 10- 3 days/20/30/40 for the rest
milk thistle
cycle assist one serving 2x daily
vitamins
joint supps
inhibit one serving
liver assist one serving 2x daily
protein

POST CYCLE:
Tamoxifen 40/40/20/20
inhibit E (need help with dosing)
cycle assist one serving 2x daily
livver assist one serving 2x daily
zma
creatine
protein
 
jhoney said:
ok thanks, ill go with the daa. if i have the daa, do i still need zma?
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I like zma for the recovery characteristics. Is it necessary? no, will it help? sure.

Also, Before you buy all this stuff.

How old are you? Weight? Training History? Diet?
 
19, 190, been lifting since my freshman year in high school pretty seriously, bench 350, squat 470, clean 315, just looking for something to put me over the edge... don't really pay attention to my diet but i can start
 
jhoney said:
19, 190, been lifting since my freshman year in high school pretty seriously, bench 350, squat 470, clean 315, just looking for something to put me over the edge... don't really pay attention to my diet but i can start
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Too young, and put you over the edge? Those are impressive numbers for your age and weight. Stick with the natty life bud, and start researching proper dieting. It looks to me that your training is good with those numbers. Honestly the farthest you can push it without AAS the better, besides when you get more knowledge under your belt about dieting and what training works best you are going to have much better gains when you decide to start using AAS.
 
ryansm said:
Too young, and put you over the edge? Those are impressive numbers for your age and weight. Stick with the natty life bud, and start researching proper dieting. It looks to me that your training is good with those numbers. Honestly the farthest you can push it without AAS the better, besides when you get more knowledge under your belt about dieting and what training works best you are going to have much better gains when you decide to start using AAS.
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If you really feel like you have to have a chemical additive consider maybe Erase+TCF-1, If you mess around with anabolics at that age you could severly damage your endocrine system (some of that no wood for your whole life kinda stuff)
 
Or even later. I mean lifting heavy will maxanizer your edo system too remember. Heavy squats and heavy dead lifts will jack your t and gh levels sky hi.
 
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