Republicans: Which candidate do you like most right now?

Who do you like the most in the GOP right now?

  • Rudy Giuliani

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Fred Thompson

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Mitt Romney

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • John Cox

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mike Huckabee

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Alan Keyes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • John McCain

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Ron Paul

    Votes: 22 56.4%
  • Tom Timcredo

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Duncan Hunter

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Nope, not at all. I know for a fact 9/11 was committed by 17 people of Saudi Arabian descent, yet we think Iraq is the place to attack? Makes a lot of sense to me :rolleyes:
What makes even less sense is to cut an run when the surge is making incredible progress that even John Murtha cant deny.
 
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I'm still unsure about his stance on online gambling which is a big part of my life.
Wow, I forgot about that ! I'm big on sports gambling and I think it should be my right to bet my hard earned cash on sporting events if I want to. It's actually profitable if you're disciplined and not looking to get rich quick.

About politics: Needless to say we're in a fvcked up situation with the Iraq war. The economy could use some help. Education is going from bad to worse faster then Michael Johnson's 100M sprint. Cost of living is getting increasingly worse. We're already being taxed way too much. Who's gonna come to save the motherfvcking day ! ?
 

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I think oil is pretty important personally.
I do too.

Assuming that the occupation of Iraq is about both nation building a democratic regime there to stabilize the region and asset (oil) control, we should ditch Iraq and overthrow the brutal dictatorship known as Saudi Arabia and divide the spoils amongst our allies, lots of oil there and it would be far easier to control.

Here's a question for you supporters of the Iraqi war, one I have yet to hear the Ron Paul smearing Mainstream Media ask - If the troop surge is such a great idea, why did it take six years to implement it? Did we come to win or to perpetuate this thing on and on and on? That's a confidence builder in our political and military leadership?

The question that Ron Paul asks, I too - Why are we paying to keep ~30,000 troops to secure the South Korean border, 50+ years after the end of the war there, and a wide open southwestern US border and no money to fix our own infrastructure?

Infastructure like collapsing bridges and the slow motion disaster looming in Georgia, when Atlanta with ~5.5 million people runs out of water in 2008, it will unless it rains very hard between now and mid April, forecasts say it will not, where will the money be to save that city?, it will everywhere but at home repairing the communities that work many months of the year paying for foreign occupations and senior citizen entitlements.

You twentysomethings future is ****ed, unless you get politically pissed off and involved NOW by electing the difference, the change Candidate - Ron Paul.
 
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Yes, how dare we remove a murderous dictator and shut down his rape rooms and let the Iraqi's choose their own leadership. How dare we attempt to plant a democracy in the middle east to spread freedom and hopefully put an end to the archaic and oppressive middle east regimes. How dare we support the troop surge when even the most anti American and delusional Dems in congress admit its working. How dare we not support running away from Iraq with our tails behind our legs and leave a gigantic power vaccuum that will be filled by Iranian militants and lead to genocide of tens if not hundreds of thousands of people.

You can debate wheather is was a mistake to go in or not, but there is no debate on what is the right thing to do now. Cutting and running like the delusional and insane Ron Paul would do is one of the most pathetic political stances possible. Ron Paul is a delusional idiot with the intellect of a 11 year old. 911 conspiracy freaks support this guy for christ sake.
Hey, where the **** was the republican controlled congress when the Iraqi people were trying to overthrow Saddam in the 90's? Oh yeah that's right, they told them to take a flying leap because they were worried about destabilizing Iraq. But NOW, oh, NOW we're there to "free the oppressed people". What a crock of ****.

Where the **** do you get off talking about the "possible" genocide of hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq when the US military has already killed hundreds of thousands of people circa Operation Shock and Awe? What ****ing twisted ass bizzarro reality do you dwell in???

The republican base has gone so far off the deep end that it's almost just a terrible running joke now. Ron Paul is the closest thing to a republican among the front runners and he's viewed as a radical nut bag. Like I said, this is just a joke that's getting very old very quick.
 
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CNorris is right, Ron Paul is not a REAL Republican.

A REAL Republican, a statist, believes we should continue to accumulate ~$1.6 Billion dollars a day, that being ~$584 billion a year and ~$2.9 trillion by the end of the next president's term in additional federal deficit to secure other people's borders while leaving ours open to eventually merge the North American Continent into an militarized economic union.

That's not play money, that's a debt burden that will have to be serviced, assuming we still have a viable currency left to do so, think Amero and the NAU again.

I've crunched the numbers, Paul is right when he says that we could completley eliminate all federal income tax on individuals, if the federal budget was scaled back to the level of just 7 years ago, 2000.

Ron Paul is a Conservative, a relic of a time when Republican meant fiscal responsibility and legislative restraint.

Paul is for a strong national defense, not the offense that is killing us financially and poisoning our relations with most of the rest of the world's citizens.

I'm not even going to go into the aspects of ever increasing citizen supervision that both of the REAL parties are administrating.
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Please take your anti-psychotic meds and see me in the morning. Seriously, you are absolutely insane. There is no arguing with you. I am not trying to insult you, but you have serious fvcking issues lol. Please have a vasectomy before you have a chance to corrupt the gene pool even more than your parents did on the night you were conceived.

there is nothing psychotic about he said. It actually makes alot of sense what he has said thus far, Reaper as well. I think you are basically a closed minded kind of guy just willing to keep things the way they are much like the rest of the US, people dont want to move away from the same things we have been doing for years. Its really time for a change and i mean a big one. Im for any president that is for making changes for us, not one who sits there trying to fix the old presidents problems. Its time we do things for ourselves honestly, this global hero **** is halting OUR progress as a nation. Time to worry about ourselves, let Japan or Germany be the new humanitarian global police country.
 

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CNorris is right, Ron Paul is not a REAL Republican.

A REAL Republican, a statist, believes we should continue to accumulate ~$1.6 Billion dollars a day, that being ~$584 billion a year and ~$2.9 trillion by the end of the next president's term in additional federal deficit to secure other people's borders while leaving ours open to eventually merge the North American Continent into an militarized economic union.

That's not play money, that's a debt burden that will have to be serviced, assuming we still have a viable currency left to do so, think Amero and the NAU again.

I've crunched the numbers, Paul is right when he says that we could completley eliminate all federal income tax on individuals, if the federal budget was scaled back to the level of just 7 years ago, 2000.

Ron Paul is a Conservative, a relic of a time when Republican meant fiscal responsibility and legislative restraint.

Paul is for a strong national defense, not the offense that is killing us financially and poisoning our relations with most of the rest of the world's citizens.

I'm not even going to go into the aspects of ever increasing citizen supervision that both of the REAL parties are administrating.
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What makes even less sense is to cut an run when the surge is making incredible progress that even John Murtha cant deny.
Its always funny, you never really do address the issues presented, bravo!!!!
 
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Its always funny, you never really do address the issues presented, bravo!!!!
I've already made my point on this issue for those that actually want to read.

Read the article below, if you are going to vote for Ron Paul you should know the facts about him.
 
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Why The Ron Paul Campaign Is Dangerous
By J. B. Williams
November 12, 2007

I am fast becoming the most unpopular man in America, among Ron Paul supporters that is. Truth is seldom popular among those at odds with that truth.

Paul supporters have worked diligently to convince voters that their candidate is the "real deal" constitutionalist conservative in the '08 presidential race and that he has a real chance of winning. But the facts simply don't support either of these claims and pointing this reality out seems to drive Paul supporters into a fit of unbridled rage.

The fact is, though Ron Paul himself is no threat to anyone or anything, his campaign is on a track that is very dangerous for America and the conservative movement in particular. Although he is highly unlikely to win anything, his campaign is increasingly likely to cause real trouble for the legitimate Republican nomination process.

Ron Paul's fund raising

Recent headlines have been focused on the record fund raising day in the Paul campaign. It was a very effective campaign stunt. Although he still trails most other candidates in overall fund raising by a pretty wide margin, his campaign grabbed headlines by setting up an internet campaign stunt designed to raise as much as possible in a single day.

It worked - they got the desired headlines - but what does it really mean? In the end, it won't change the outcome of the election process.

But the recent surge in campaign contributions did raise a more important question.

Where's all that money coming from?

At first, I assumed, and had even written, that Ron Paul's financial support was coming from the Libertarian wing of the Republican Party. Then I was corrected by former Ron Paul aide and founder of the Libertarian Republican Caucus, Eric Dondero, who also founded MainstreamLibertarian.com and hosts blogtalk radio show Libertarian Politics Live.

In an interview with Dondero, he emphatically complained; "Please refrain in the future from using the label "Libertarian Republican" in describing Ron Paul. Call him what he is: Some sort of populist leftwinger."

Dondero continued, "Since 9/11 Paul has become a complete nutcase conspiratorialist quasi-Anti-Semitic leftwing American-hating nutball."

These were strong words from a former aide to Mr. Paul (from 1997 -- 2003) and words worthy of investigation in my mind. So I decided to investigate, which in politics always means, follow the money.

Where is all that money coming from?

Upon investigation, it appears that Mr. Dondero is exactly right. Much of Ron Paul's money is not coming from mainstream Libertarians or Republicans.

Although he is running as a Republican, he actually has very little support from rank and file Republicans, as every national Republican poll confirms. But it turns out that he has very little support from mainstream Libertarians either. As Dondero pointed out, "Ron Paul is only attracting support from the leftwing side of the libertarian spectrum, virtually none of whom are Republicans."

According to official campaign fund raising filings posted at Open Secrets, Ron Paul's top contributor is well known internet giant Google. Google, with Al Gore on the board of directors, has a long history of progressive political activism, both in the way they censor search results to bury conservative slanted stories, and in their campaign contribution habits, which is solidly Democrat, with the exception of Ron Paul.

Like Howard Dean before him, Ron Paul first grabbed headlines with his very hi-tech internet campaign, which is now easily explained by the fact that his largest constituency is in the computer tech community. It also explains how Paul supporters have perfected the art of "spamming" or "jamming" online polls, creating a false impression of bigger support while invalidating poll after poll. Other tech giants like Microsoft and Verizon top his donors list as well.

Among Ron Paul's top donor zip codes are of course parts of Texas, but also heavily liberal districts in Chicago (60614), San Francisco (94117), more than 80% of which supports Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer, and Los Angeles -- Long Beach, which is his second largest donor area after Dallas.

What we have here is a candidate trying to win the Republican nomination by raising money from liberals across the political aisle.

This is why his fund-raising is not translating to improved poll positions

His donors are not Republicans. So no matter how much money he raises, it is not translating into Republican support in the polls. He remains at or below 5% support in every national Republican poll, no matter how much money he raises.

USA Today reports, "The Iowa Republican Party put out an advisory Tuesday setting standards for participation in a Dec. 4 debate. Sponsors said participants need to average 5% support among Republicans in recent national or Iowa polls -- and so far, Texas Rep. Ron Paul is one of the candidates not making the cut."

In Pollster.com's latest averaging of national poll results of Republicans, Paul's support comes in at 2.7%. The website calculates Paul's support among Republicans in Iowa, based on polls there, to be 3.8%.

Yet his supporters still claim he is much more popular than the national polls indicate and that he will be the come from behind shocker at the Republican convention. How?

Here's where the Ron Paul campaign becomes dangerous

Because Paul supporters know that support coming from non-Republicans is not reflected in the Republican polls, they have started a campaign to promote party-jumping so that their anti-war supporter's from the left can vote in the Republican primary.
 
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Twenty four states have "open" primaries, which means, one need not be Republican to vote in those Republican primaries. Ron Paul supporters are promoting both strategies -- one in which Democrats, Independents, and members of other third parties can vote for him in "open" primaries where possible, and switch parties to vote for him where the primaries are "closed."

The mere notion that a Republican presidential candidate should be nominated by this strategy is insane and very dangerous to the entire election process. At a minimum, it is a demonstration of just what kind of people are behind the Ron Paul campaign, obviously, not constitutionally conscious people. I do not know if the Paul campaign itself is behind this effort. But I am sure that the campaign is aware of this effort, as well as the fact that much of their funding is coming from people other than Republicans.

The Daily Paul is openly promoting Change Party Affiliation to Republican to Participate in Primaries. "As you may realize, there are many people from across the spectrum planning to support Ron Paul: Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Green Party members, disenfranchised Democrats, and of course the disenfranchised Republicans. Many of these people may not realize that they NEED to change party affiliations to Republican to vote in the GOP Primary in many States." (A direct quote from the site)

So, how Republican is Republican candidate Ron Paul?

If he's funded largely by anti-war leftists, from Democrat stronghold districts and counting on Democrats, Libertarians and members of the Green Party to win the Republican nomination, not very...

The only Republicans we find in his campaign are those myopic small government conservatives angry with Bush for his Democrat-like spending habits. Those so angry with Bush, that they are willing to overlook all of this just to vote for a candidate who promises less spending. Of course, we can't entirely overlook the handful of moderate Republicans who oppose the war in Iraq either, few as they are.

Why is the Ron Paul campaign dangerous?

Despite his very real popularity across the political aisle, he is not likely to get enough people to switch parties in order to win the RNC nomination. But he is doing a great job of validating the perspective of all the negative propaganda uttered by leftists against Bush, Republicans, the War on Terror and national security. That's not good.

He is also doing a great job of helping the left undermine the war on terror and that's why he's so popular among anti-war leftists, including in the press. This is bad.

But even worse, he threatens the integrity of the Republican nomination process itself by relying upon non-Republicans to win the Republican nomination.

Last, at a time in American history when the Republican Party must be more united and engaged than ever before, when every available conservative vote is needed in next years general election, Paul and his supporters are busy carving up the party for their own anti-Republican agenda.

I hate wasting this much press time on Ron Paul. But the Paul campaign is becoming a real threat to the Republican primary process and if allowed to continue, he will take votes away from the most conservative Republican candidates in the party, not the most liberal. This is bad for the party and the country.

That's why his campaign has become dangerous.

I actually agree with many of Ron Paul's positions, outside of his suicidal national security perspective of course. But I can not agree with the campaign tactics of using leftist money and votes to hijack the Republican nomination and I'm shocked that any Republican would.

There's really no need to write another word about Ron Paul. If you can know all of these facts, follow the money and the links provided for their campaign tactics and still support him, you're no Republican, much less a conservative or constitutionalist.

Real Republicans need to be aware and unite to block this effort to hijack the party nomination.

National elections are decided by a couple points one way or another today. Republicans can't afford to let any candidate play games with their nomination process. Republicans need a candidate that will unite and motivate conservative voters, not one that divides and undermines that process.

That's it! These are the facts. You don't have to like them, you just need to know them.
 

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honestly, I think your paranoia about Paul is laughable. It is almost like your love of Matt Hughes...........scary


Also, you did not answer the questions asked, but that is ok to
 
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honestly, I think your paranoia about Paul is laughable. It is almost like your love of Matt Hughes...........scary


Also, you did not answer the questions asked, but that is ok to
I think a person that is in love with Joe Biden calling himself a republican is laughable too. But you are a Yankees fan so you clearly have no soul and that may effect your judgement. :fool2:
 
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CNorris likes to pick and choose which posts and what information he likes to rebuttle. Which you would think then he could provide a strong argument but still, somehow, he fails.
 
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Ron Paul makes some good points financially and the budget deficit and war spending concerns me too. But it is far less concerning than Ron Paul's suicidal foreign policy that would harm this country far more than 33,000 in national debt for each American. Like I said, you can debate the justification for the war in Iraq all you want, but to retreat would be a horrible mistake that would be felt long after the national debt is paid off.
 
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CNorris likes to pick and choose which posts and what information he likes to rebuttle. Which you would think then he could provide a strong argument but still, somehow, he fails.
I dont address insanity or feeble minded comments. There really is no debating someone who's mind is weak enough to actually support a retreat from Iraq. No matter what the facts are they have made up their mind to support the most pathetic position possible. I can only add fuel to the flame war. This thread is already on its way towards being locked since the leftist lunatics have come out in droves pretending to be republicans.
 
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Jesus.. No wonder they shut down the politics forum. Can we get back to the original topic here?
 
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Jesus.. No wonder they shut down the politics forum. Can we get back to the original topic here?
Ok well it looks like Fred Thompson is the republican with the most votes as of now.
 

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I dont address insanity or feeble minded comments. There really is no debating someone who's mind is weak enough to actually support a retreat from Iraq. No matter what the facts are they have made up their mind to support the most pathetic position possible. I can only add fuel to the flame war. This thread is already on its way towards being locked since the leftist lunatics have come out in droves pretending to be republicans.
Wow, you truly are a laugh. Just so that I dont get banned for telling you what you are, I am going to exit this thread to avoid your silly, monosyllabic neocon ramblings
 
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Wow, you truly are a laugh. Just so that I dont get banned for telling you what you are, I am going to exit this thread to avoid your silly, monosyllabic neocon ramblings
So you are cutting and running? Retreating? Wow what a surprise! :toofunny:
 

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AM07 for president!
WORD! If I were President, I would get us out of this ****ty war, downsize the federal government bigtime, let the states do their thang, and legalize all drugs (including AAS :D)
 

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But it is far less concerning than Ron Paul's suicidal foreign policy that would harm this country
Let me guess, you think we're fighting them over there so they don't come here, right??

HAHAHA, you seriously are delusional. Even my conservative friends who watch Hannity, O'Reilly, and all the Faux News bull**** and participates in conservative web forums across the Internet know that's the worst excuse ever to stay there.

Ninja Master Chuck Norris, don't you think enough people have already died in this war? Don't you think enough money has been spent? Do you honestly think you can save this country if a lot of the people don't want to be saved? As soon as we leave, people are going to rise up and start wrecking **** again. It happened in Afghanistan. We somehow forgot about OBL.

By the way, what the **** did happen to OSAMA BIN LADEN???? Where the **** did he go? Oh, that's right, after we invaded Iraq, Bush's exact words were "we don't know where he is, he isn't exactly a priority to us".

So the guy that is responsible for the murders of almost 3000 Americans isn't a priority anymore?

I guess Iraq also had nuclear weapons and were chillin with Al Qaeda, right?

You Bushbots don't surprise me anymore. Go back to sitting in a huddle with Hannity, thinking about which person in the huddle is going to take it in the ass next from Cheney.
 

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By the way Norris, I'll respond to the Ron Paul article tomorrow.

But just to let you know, Ron Paul's 10 terms speaks for itself. He is consistent in his beliefs. He doesn't change his mind because the majority of people want him to.

Every post I read of yours, you sound closer and closer to Hannity :lol: We all know he's a reliable source of information to go to when researching candidates :lol:
 

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I like Tancredo, but he won't be the pick. Along with Hunter he's the strongest on border security+illegal immigration, and he one of the best representatives on tax issues (always highly rated by the various taxpayer organizations).

Amongst the front runners (Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee, McCain, Thompson), I will back Romney or Thompson.

Stop ruining this thread with the Ron Paul-related arguing.
 

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A friend of mine who is a Democrat said the funniest thing. It's kind of offensive, but I laughed my ass off.

"In an election year where it would almost be automatic for a Democrat to get elected since the Bush administration has really put a bad taste in peoples' mouths concerning Republicans, the Dems front runners are a black and a woman!"
 

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I like Tancredo, but he won't be the pick. Along with Hunter he's the strongest on border security+illegal immigration, and he one of the best representatives on tax issues (always highly rated by the various taxpayer organizations).

Amongst the front runners (Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee, McCain, Thompson), I will back Romney or Thompson.

Stop ruining this thread with the Ron Paul-related arguing.
What do people see in Thompson? Is it that he's just different from Giuliani and Romney? I don't know much about him, so could you enlighten ignorant people like myself?
 

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Rudy Giuliani -> the man is a clueless psychopath. There's a reason folks in NYC called him "Giulinazi". He'd turn the US into a police state.

Fred Thompson -> meh. mixed bag. Agree with some of his ideas, hate others. Overall he gets a thumbs down. Negatives outway the positives.

Mitt Romney -> He's a mormon. End of story. Anyone that believe sin magic underwear isn't getting my vote.

John Cox -> who?

Mike Huckabee -> this guy is a total nutcase. There's no way in hell I'd ever vote for a guy who thinks the earth is 6000 years old. He'd turn this country into a ####ing baptist ministry. Good by freedom of religion if he ever got elected. NO THANKS.

Alan Keyes -> who?

John McCain -> honestly, I was with him until he went against Net Neutrality. Sorry, that's a make or break issue.

Ron Paul -> Best candidate out there. He's got my vote locked in solid.

Tom Timcredo -> who?
Duncan Hunter -> who?
 
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This thread is already on its way towards being locked since the leftist lunatics have come out in droves pretending to be republicans.
i didnt know this was a thread just for republicans...
 
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Well, you asked who I liked, not who is most likely to be able to win, so I went with John McCain. I'd like to see some fiscal responsibility in the white house again someday during my lifetime.
 

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Well, you asked who I liked, not who is most likely to be able to win, so I went with John McCain. I'd like to see some fiscal responsibility in the white house again someday during my lifetime.
Fiscal responsibility is not a term that is familiar to the federal government.
 

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And people that like Ron Paul happen to like the truest Republican of the bunch. Giuliani is just going to make government even bigger than it already is.

And I don't want some bible-thumper in there, shoving his beliefs down peoples' throats and using religion as a tool to make decisions.

As for Mitt, I don't know much about him. I'd like to learn more about him, but I think he would be the most fiscally responsible of the bunch. You have to look at how people did in their private lives to get an idea of their fiscal responsibility. Romney is a very successful businessman, so I'm more inclined to believe him when he talks about fiscal responsibility than GWB, since GWB has failed at every business he's taken over, and his family friends has to bail him out of everything.
 
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I dont address insanity or feeble minded comments. There really is no debating someone who's mind is weak enough to actually support a retreat from Iraq. No matter what the facts are they have made up their mind to support the most pathetic position possible. I can only add fuel to the flame war. This thread is already on its way towards being locked since the leftist lunatics have come out in droves pretending to be republicans.
Oh that's such a cute way to avoid and sidestep strong counters.:nono: Such as the republican controlled congress' refusal to participate in the people of Iraq's attempt to overthrow Saddam in the 90s.

Or the fact that such small amounts of people have actually been charged with terrorism since 9/11. How many have there been? Show me what 2 trillion dollars gets you in terms of stamping out terrorism. If I remember correctly, I think the number is less than 40 and the median sentence was around a year. Stunning results for 2 wars and 2 trillion dollars.

I keep seeing Guantanamo detainees released few by few, or Abu Ghraib releasing 1000 detainees... I'm not seeing mass amounts of detainees charged with terrorism though. Are you? No I don't think you are, because it's bulllllll****.

You can't address the left as insane when the left wants to pull out of Iraq. You, the republican base(ie nutjobs), want to keep American troops in hostile territory in a country we bombed to **** on false pretenses. Yeah, that's genius! You're encouraging the deaths of innocent American men because of some mythical danger of a power vacuum should we exit the country. It's quite safe to shove the men of the military into harms way when you're resting comfortably in your computer chair huh? Not only that, shoving them into harms way for absolutely no reason, even better.

The only real solution is to divide Iraq into 3 different regions while setting up UN oversight to distribute the resources(oil) equally to all 3 regions. This is the only possible solution that's possible and will help quell the warring the factions.... This will never happen though because the whole intent of this war was to set up military bases and a long term presence and a good jumping point for war with Iran. Go read PNAC.

The left is not the lunacy, lunacy is wanting to bomb countries and kill innocent people based on "possible" threats. Threats that quite simply do not exist. Afghan=terrorists. Iraq=WMDs. Iran=Nuke. Each have been shown not to exist, yet the republicans warmongering continues. Absolute, 100%, complete, utter ****ing insanity. Your base is full of sadistic ignorant psychopaths.

Basically you share the same thought process as Al Qaeda and muslim extremists. Spread western democracy(islmaofascism) throughout the world, invading and going to war(suicide bombers and terrorist attacks) with those nations hostile to America such as Iran and Iraq(America). Then inject American(Islamic) ways of thinking and living because our way of life is superior to our enemies.... Yes, you share the exact same thought process as muslim extremists. Congratulations.
 
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Basically you share the same thought process as Al Qaeda and muslim extremists. Spread western democracy(islmaofascism) throughout the world, invading and going to war(suicide bombers and terrorist attacks) with those nations hostile to America such as Iran and Iraq(America). Then inject American(Islamic) ways of thinking and living because our way of life is superior to our enemies.... Yes, you share the exact same thought process as muslim extremists. Congratulations.
The simple fact that you actually make that comparison makes 99.9% of the people never want listen to you and label you a leftist nutjob.

It amazes me just how bad you can distort statements and viewpoints. Its actually, sad.

Shutdown, as usual.
 
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