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ragNOrok caffine free

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Started taking mst ragNOrok caffine free three days ago and can't feel anything. I feel like I just drank water, no pumps no focus nothing ? I have loved every other product I have tried by mst so this is nothing against the company, I'm just wondering if anyone else has tried this with nothing ? I tried it today with my eca stack and that gave me energy. And focus but nothing more than the eca stack would do on its own.
 
I take the rag on an empty stomach, then workout I follow the workout. With nutra pro and then about an hour later I eat a full meal, I did try it one day with a banna just cuz I wanted something to eat before the workout but still felt nothing
 
'Empty stomach' is completely nebulous, and means nothing. Some people consider their stomach empty an hour after they eat. Let me rephrase: How long before the workout is your last food/meal? And how long before the workout are taking the Rag?
 
I take the rag about 30 mins after I wake up, and then workout about 30 mins after that, so by empty stomach I mean empty.
 
try adding 2 grams of vitamin c and 3 grams of fish oils, and if you have some green tea add it too

adding this always intensifies my pumps with any NO product
 
I take the rag about 30 mins after I wake up, and then workout about 30 mins after that, so by empty stomach I mean empty.

Perfect. Well, creatine, arginine, and beta alanine, the main actives in RagNOrok, all take a period of time to take effect. Think ~2weeks to start to see results from creatine, a week or two for arginine, etc. That's with daily use, BTW, so try taking a scoop every day, and report back in two weeks.

:)
 
Things is I have been on beta and creatine for a few months, I take a scoop of pp's creapure, 3 serving daily of pp's beta alanine, and pp's cla daily..on top of the rag.

I know its not I'm amuned to beta and creatine because I still respond well to asgt,maximize v2 (the only 1,3 dimeth product I can take) and still get the tingles from pp's witch I do not get from the rag but as I said before this is not against mst at all as I love there other products
 
Hmm. Everyone responds different. Maybe you just found your non-responder product. It sounds like you're doing it right. You tried cre02?
 
Cre02 is great for endurance and strength. I used it for judo, and it fits those needs the best. Also consider Clout.
 
try adding 2 grams of vitamin c and 3 grams of fish oils, and if you have some green tea add it too

adding this always intensifies my pumps with any NO product

advice right here it might help
take it or leave it
 
Could be you just aren't responding to the product, but I would take rochabp's advice and add in those supplements to try and intensify the pump.

I always find a small dose of fast-acting carbohydrates helps with pump and focus (10g or so), try a sip of gatorade or lucozade with your supplements.

Otherwise it might well be a case of trying a different stim-free pre-workout, have you tried Ultima? Invalid Link Removed. GPLC really is the way to go when it comes to pumps.
 
I used the stim version of it and really liked it. never used the no caffeien version tho ; /
 
Gplc is the new king of pump, but some new things ive been reading up on to "prime" the pump, make it last longer and maybe even more intense, is to add anti-oxidants. Vit C, Pycnogenol, lipoic acid, Vit E.. You could also find something really high in Orac value, such as Organic Vitaberry, or just go the Pre Max route wich has everything.
 
if you'd like a promo code to try out Cre-02 with a sample, let me know man.

Also just for the heck of it, how much water are you using with your Rok ultra, and how much do you weigh?
 
How are things going with this?
I LOVE rag caff free!

How much were you using, 1scoop, 1.25, 1.5?
As far as energy goes, if you are a stim user, the caff free isn't going to do much for you, it'll give a slight energy boost but not much, it's meant for those sensitive to caffeine and those working out later in the day.
Also, with pump products, our bodies tend to adapt to the ingredients and the effects lessen, so I would recommend only using on workout days. I would also recommend taking 2-4 weeks off from pump/pre workout products.
The other suggestion would be to increase the dose, but I am not a fan of constantly increasing the dose, because the product works well at 1 scoop.
 
Started taking mst ragNOrok caffine free three days ago and can't feel anything. I feel like I just drank water, no pumps no focus nothing ? I have loved every other product I have tried by mst so this is nothing against the company, I'm just wondering if anyone else has tried this with nothing ? I tried it today with my eca stack and that gave me energy. And focus but nothing more than the eca stack would do on its own.

I dont know that product but GPLC really is the way to go for pumps.
and i would rec some green tea.
PP's GPLC + green tea would be mild but effective.
 
I dont know that product but GPLC really is the way to go for pumps.
and i would rec some green tea.
PP's GPLC + green tea would be mild but effective.

Ive never used that product by PP...but RagNOrok packs a nice punch...and the "way to go" for pumps in my book is Nitroceps.
 
I have been using 2 full scoops and still just isn't working for me. Oh well I will use it tell its gone, I have also been taking a 200 mg caffine pill with it
 
I have been using 2 full scoops and still just isn't working for me. Oh well I will use it tell its gone, I have also been taking a 200 mg caffine pill with it

I came here to with my imput of "Double Down" but that would put you at 4 servings? maybe not the best idea :p
 
I have been using 2 full scoops and still just isn't working for me. Oh well I will use it tell its gone, I have also been taking a 200 mg caffine pill with it

Split the dose, consume 1 scoop 45min prior to your workout, then starting sipping 1 scoop about 10-15min prior to your workout.
DO NOT just mix 2 scoops and down half then save the other half to sip.
 
another thing that might be worth mentioning is to try shaking the tub. possibly some of the ingredients have settled in the bottom.
 
Thanks guys...I have started a m-lmg/h-drol stack now so pumps are great. I'm still taking one serving of the rag just cuz I have it.
 
My favorite pre-workout was DominATP by USP. It's no longer available, so I thought I'd give RagNOrok caffeine free a try. Half way through the tub, and I can't say I'm too impressed. I'm not getting what I wanted from this product, so I'll give something else a shot after it's gone. I had high hopes too.
 
My favorite pre-workout was DominATP by USP. It's no longer available, so I thought I'd give RagNOrok caffeine free a try. Half way through the tub, and I can't say I'm too impressed. I'm not getting what I wanted from this product, so I'll give something else a shot after it's gone. I had high hopes too.

Sorry to hear it hasn't met what you were expecting.
As far as your pre-workout use, did you use this immediately following another pre-workout product?
How are you dosing the product (scoops and amount of time before your workout)?
How long after you eat do you consume rag?
 
My favorite pre-workout was DominATP by USP. It's no longer available, so I thought I'd give RagNOrok caffeine free a try. Half way through the tub, and I can't say I'm too impressed. I'm not getting what I wanted from this product, so I'll give something else a shot after it's gone. I had high hopes too.

what exactly were you expecting?
 
I'm not knocking the product itself, so don't get me wrong. I was simply looking for something that may not be attainable with this product

I was dosing one scoop about 30 min prior to workout. Usually several hours after a meal, as I work out late evening. I try to stay away from too many stims these days, so this is why I opted for the caffeine free. I used the site, reviews etc. to find what I thought might provide what I was looking for. A solid alternative to DominATP, with which I could feel the ingredients such as the BA etc. This, as well as the fact that I had great energy, and came out of my workouts feeling the same as when I walked in. Alert, strong, and still energetic. I didn't get this from this product.

With the remaining product, I have been using it more as an intra product, by mixing one scoop with water and sipping throughout workout. Again, not bashing anyone's product, and apologies if that's the way it came out.
 
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