Quick Question Thread - Throw 'Em Up!!

In regards to Cissus Rx (5 %), what dosage would you recommend an older women take to treat a recent injury she just sustained? I have quite a few bottles of the older version and I figured this is something she may benefit from.

Any who, she fractured two ribs along with tearing her muscle. She is in her 50's, or possibly 60's, I can't remember.

4-6 capsules daily? 2x3, 2x2, 3x2? I don't know... As far as her weight is concerned, hmm, no clue... But she is at a healthy weight. I haven't seen her a long a** time, since last year.
 
lbarber said:
In regards to Cissus Rx (5 %), what dosage would you recommend an older women take to treat a recent injury she just sustained? I have quite a few bottles of the older version and I figured this is something she may benefit from.

Any who, she fractured two ribs along with tearing her muscle. She is in her 50's, or possibly 60's, I can't remember.

4-6 capsules daily? 2x3, 2x2, 3x2? I don't know... As far as her weight is concerned, hmm, no clue... But she is at a healthy weight. I haven't seen her a long a** time, since last year.
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Cissus is not necessarily weight-dependent, so I would begin her at 6 caps daily as a therapeutic dose, and increase as necessary.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Cissus is not necessarily weight-dependent, so I would begin her at 6 caps daily as a therapeutic dose, and increase as necessary.
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Oh, okay... Well, hopefully she notices a difference in her recovery in comparison to her past injuries! :) I think this is the third or fourth time she has injured her ribs.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
I have seen several studies which attempt to correlate CHS (cluster headache syndrome) with the lipolysis of stored triglycerides into FA, and subsequently the oxidation of FFAs. In layman terms, ReCreate and LR are causing significant lipolysis, induced both directly and indirectly by the hypothalamus; as in CHS, this could be significantly altering both brain and peripheral tissue vasodilation via stimulation of the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. As a response to energy demands, blood-flow could be increased in the brain, causing pressure headaches. Exercise is readily oxidizing these FFAs, and avoiding this process, and therein your headaches.

....maybe.
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Interesting could this be potentially harmfull, I experienced some pretty serious brain fog followed by headaches and some nausea yesterday. The brain fog was pretty scary but cleared. I don't know where this could have come from there are so many variables but I did wonder if I should have added drive to my stack. My stack is IGF2, Drive and Recreate.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Interesting could this be potentially harmfull, I experienced some pretty serious brain fog followed by headaches and some nausea yesterday. The brain fog was pretty scary but cleared. I don't know where this could have come from there are so many variables but I did wonder if I should have added drive to my stack. My stack is IGF2, Drive and Recreate.
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I'm not so sure about potentially harmful, unless that is one was already suffering from the condition. This could affect maybe 1% of the population. Keep in mind, as well, I am a physician by no means and that was merely an attempt to make some sense of ReCreate which are only potentially induced by ReCreate. Without being privy to the sleep patterns, full supplementation, diet, environmental factors, socially-related-stress, physical condition, and a myriad of other factors of the OP, it's hard to determine exactly what caused the headaches.

It could have been something as simple as Caffeine, as well.
 
I believe it was a combination of things, I was up to 5 litres of water a day and during the humidity I have had to take in up to 6 (I'm a big fella and recreate has me sweating so profusely). The increase in water intake, again does seem to make a difference. 6 litres damn that's a lot of water. I guess I might have underestimated how much extra water I needed given the change in weather.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
No, but not due to the efficacy of the product. Normally, in reaction to lowered blood glucose, your liver would release glucagon in order to metabolize stored glycogen for fuel; however, in the presence of alcohol, your body attempts to metabolize that particular toxin as quickly as possible. This inhibits the liver's ability to secrete glucagon, and, in conjunction with the already lowered serum blood glucose, creates a very glucose-deprived environment. This is most likely why many have noted Anabolic Pump's 'alcohol increasing' capacity - they are actually noting mild hypoglycaemia.

Alcohol alters glucose metabolism exclusively. Add in a product which lowers blood glucose as well, and you will be piss drunk after four beers.
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Good post K.

Glucagon is actually released from the 'alpha cells' located within the islet of langerhans(endocrine section)in the pancreas though. It then acts on the liver causing glycogenolysis of stored glycogen and gluconeogenesis when glycogen becomes depleted.

It's pretty amazing how the same organ(which is both endocrine and exocrine) can produce two hormones that have complete opposite effects.

Great thread though man. I have my AP ready to go for use in a month or so. :cheers:
 
Trauma1 said:
Good post K.

Glucagon is actually released from the 'alpha cells' located within the islet of langerhans(endocrine section)in the pancreas though. It then acts on the liver causing glycogenolysis of stored glycogen and gluconeogenesis when glycogen becomes depleted.

It's pretty amazing how the same organ(which is both endocrine and exocrine) can produce two hormones that have complete opposite effects.

Great thread though man. I have my AP ready to go for use in a month or so. :cheers:
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Oops! Did I say liver? Haha, I fly through too many answers in a day I think.
 
Got some more ap today, I like the new stuff, pretty pills, fancy box, cool insert. Looks very high brow, like the recreate. In the insert, theres a nice little example diet, just wanted to know, are you serious with the 9:30 pm meal? Do you guys really eat a full meal that late? It would keep me awake all night, just cant eat that late.
 
How long after taking AP should I wait to take my multivitamin(orange triad) so that it doesnt interfere?
 
I am currently on 3 ap a day, and a before bed dose of Powerfull. When I started ap, I quit taking my sizeon and switched to just adding pure creatine mono to my shakes instead, for fear of diminishing ap's fat cell shutdown effects. I was wondering, is it possible to incorporate sizeon into this stack somehow? maybe drop to 2 ap's a day and mix in the sizeon far away from the ap doses? What do you think?
 
digitalducki said:
I am currently on 3 ap a day, and a before bed dose of Powerfull. When I started ap, I quit taking my sizeon and switched to just adding pure creatine mono to my shakes instead, for fear of diminishing ap's fat cell shutdown effects. I was wondering, is it possible to incorporate sizeon into this stack somehow? maybe drop to 2 ap's a day and mix in the sizeon far away from the ap doses? What do you think?
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Taking Sizeon with AP is not going to effect you nearly as much as not taking it AP altogether, if at all.

We believe there is a possibility that insulin potentiators MAY reduce AP's ability to block storage of adipose to some degree. That does not however suggest that you should reduce AP intake to accommodate products containing such. My recommendation would be to keep carbs at a reasonable level during the combined dose in question so as to not oversaturate your ability to utilize them.

That being said, I don't think the levels of ALA in Sizeon are high enough to warrant concern anyway. :)
 
LOVERIUS said:
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Right! Strictly speaking, P-Slin is a supplement by Pure Supplements, an USPLabs-affiliated company. That is why it is also available online at puresupplementsdirect, rather than at usplabsdirect.
 
How is recreate on blood pressure?

I'd like to pick some up, but I have high bp (which is under control, btw, with the help of meds). Any problems here? I know it has caffeine, but I don't know if it would be enough for there to be any issues.
 
ozarkaBRAND said:
How is recreate on blood pressure?

I'd like to pick some up, but I have high bp (which is under control, btw, with the help of meds). Any problems here? I know it has caffeine, but I don't know if it would be enough for there to be any issues.
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I would think that its potent anti-lipogenic activity would have a positive effect on both lipids, and blood pressure; further, the Caffeine dose in ReCreate was deliberately restricted to avoid BP issues; as well, Cortisol does play a primary role in regulating blood pressure - ReCreate's 11B selective activity should play a big role there as well.

I know while I was taking it, my BP remained around 118/68 with a RPR of 58-65.
 
ozarkaBRAND said:
How is recreate on blood pressure?

I'd like to pick some up, but I have high bp (which is under control, btw, with the help of meds). Any problems here? I know it has caffeine, but I don't know if it would be enough for there to be any issues.
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Cant say I tracked it religiously, but I kept checking mine from time to time, have to, especially when introducing a new product, and recreate definitely did NOT make it go up.
 
I'm stacking AP+Recreate on a bulk, hoping for a re-comp effect. I am at 10-11% bodyfat, but carry it all right on my gut.

1) How far over maintenance should I go to still be able to get the benefits of Recreate for fat loss? I know Recreate increases energy expenditure, but more calories are also needed to gain, so I'm sorta up in the air on where to start with calories.

I am 155lbs right now, was thinking starting with ~2500 calories @ 1.5g/lb in protein, .5g/lb in fat, and 50g carbs with breakfast/pre/post, plus trace carbs from veggies, cottage cheese, etc. My insulin sensitivity isn't the greatest.

2) Along the same lines, could one potentially eat at maintenance and see simultaneous muscle gain/fat loss? This appears to be the case in some of the logs/reviews I've read.

3) For dosing AP with the PWO meal, can I take it on my way out of the gym, make the 15 mins drive home, and then eat?

Thanks
 
Fidelitas626 said:
I'm stacking AP+Recreate on a bulk, hoping for a re-comp effect. I am at 10-11% bodyfat, but carry it all right on my gut.

1) How far over maintenance should I go to still be able to get the benefits of Recreate for fat loss? I know Recreate increases energy expenditure, but more calories are also needed to gain, so I'm sorta up in the air on where to start with calories.

I am 155lbs right now, was thinking starting with ~2500 calories @ 1.5g/lb in protein, .5g/lb in fat, and 50g carbs with breakfast/pre/post, plus trace carbs from veggies, cottage cheese, etc. My insulin sensitivity isn't the greatest.

2) Along the same lines, could one potentially eat at maintenance and see simultaneous muscle gain/fat loss? This appears to be the case in some of the logs/reviews I've read.

3) For dosing AP with the PWO meal, can I take it on my way out of the gym, make the 15 mins drive home, and then eat?

Thanks
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1) Well, at a certain point, the capabilities of ReCreate + AP in terms of fat loss will be superseded, and at that point translate into fat prevention. At what caloric level over maintenance is variable due to several circumstances: normal caloric level, acclimation to the product, level of activity and so on.

2) In my experience, I have been able to keep weight a constant whilst shedding adipose - thereby inferring I received a gain in LBM. Harder data can be found here, in one of the best testaments to the capabilities of this stack around:

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You can clearly see Chris decreased BF% levels, while increasing LBM.

3) Yes. I do a very similar layout myself.
 
Would there be increase positive results as far as LBM promoting and fat-loss if one were to take 1 capsule of AP before every meal during the day?

I'm cutting, btw, and I generally allow between 10-30 carbs with each meal.
 
I would assume so. I have done that (even two caps per meal) for extended periods of time, and seen increased vascularity and muscle belly fullness. Those things are not necessarily indicative of LBM gain, though.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
1) Well, at a certain point, the capabilities of ReCreate + AP in terms of fat loss will be superseded, and at that point translate into fat prevention. At what caloric level over maintenance is variable due to several circumstances: normal caloric level, acclimation to the product, level of activity and so on.

2) In my experience, I have been able to keep weight a constant whilst shedding adipose - thereby inferring I received a gain in LBM. Harder data can be found here, in one of the best testaments to the capabilities of this stack around:

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You can clearly see Chris decreased BF% levels, while increasing LBM.

3) Yes. I do a very similar layout myself.
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Great! Just was I was looking for. Fat gain prevention is fine with me. Adding mass elsewhere while holding bodyfat constant will change appearance, so no worries there :D.

Do you think PowerFULL would be a worthwhile addition to this stack? I'm debating between possibly adding it or Black Hole (to offset the appetite supression).

Thanks for the quick response.
 
Fidelitas626 said:
Great! Just was I was looking for. Fat gain prevention is fine with me. Adding mass elsewhere while holding bodyfat constant will change appearance, so no worries there :D.

Do you think PowerFULL would be a worthwhile addition to this stack? I'm debating between possibly adding it or Black Hole (to offset the appetite supression).

Thanks for the quick response.
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I think PFULL would be an amazing stack. Why not maximize endogenous GH production (thereby leading to increased lipolysis) and maximize dopaminergic transmission while already vastly increase one's metabolism?
 
Mulletsoldier said:
I think PFULL would be an amazing stack. Why not maximize endogenous GH production (thereby leading to increased lipolysis) and maximize dopaminergic transmission while already vastly increase one's metabolism?
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Lol so in essence....

"Rock it out" :head:

Just put in my order on NP :D
 
Just opened up a bottle from the $24.99 batch Nutra recently sold.

The inside of the bottle doesn't have that not so great AP smell. Any ideas what's up?
 
i will be 13 weeks out from my figure show this sat and i started using recreate when i was 18 weeks out(with great results so far!!). is it ok to use recreate for 18 weeks straight or should i come off it at some point for a coulple of weeks then go back on it?

and if i should come off it for a couple of weeks should i take another thermo in its place for that time?

thanks!

renee
 
renkev88 said:
i will be 13 weeks out from my figure show this sat and i started using recreate when i was 18 weeks out(with great results so far!!). is it ok to use recreate for 18 weeks straight or should i come off it at some point for a coulple of weeks then go back on it?

and if i should come off it for a couple of weeks should i take another thermo in its place for that time?

thanks!

renee
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Based on what I have read on the product, I don't see why not. I am planning on running it for a long time as well.
 
renkev88 said:
i will be 13 weeks out from my figure show this sat and i started using recreate when i was 18 weeks out(with great results so far!!). is it ok to use recreate for 18 weeks straight or should i come off it at some point for a coulple of weeks then go back on it?

and if i should come off it for a couple of weeks should i take another thermo in its place for that time?

thanks!

renee
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Generally, we recommend 12 weeks ON, 4 weeks OFF.
 
What is latest and greatest powerfull dosing scheme? Every bottle i buy has a different one...

thanks
 
dexterium said:
Generally, we recommend 12 weeks ON, 4 weeks OFF.
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is there a reason for the 12 weeks?

is this because the recreate looses its effectivness after 12 weeks or is there something in the recreate that shouldt be taken longer than 12 weeks


thanks again!

renee
 
rxp1997 said:
What is latest and greatest powerfull dosing scheme? Every bottle i buy has a different one...

thanks
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there's only been 2 from memory. Im enjoying the new one:

5 days on, 2 off. 2 before bed, 3 before WO

I do not take the daily dose on non-WO days
 
renkev88 said:
is there a reason for the 12 weeks?

is this because the recreate looses its effectivness after 12 weeks or is there something in the recreate that shouldt be taken longer than 12 weeks


thanks again!

renee
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Good question, I am coming up an 10 weeks and I don't want to stop at 12. I would like to know why so I can make a informed decision. I'm goint to do some reading...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Good question, I am coming up an 10 weeks and I don't want to stop at 12. I would like to know why so I can make a informed decision. I'm goint to do some reading...
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Adrengeric fatigue, as well as Thyroid over-stimulation are the primary reasons one would take a break at 12 weeks from ReCreate. While it probably is entirely possible to run it longer, the safe approach is to cease at 12 weeks.
 
1. Is it necessary to run any type of thyroid pct type products (7-keto?) upon cessation of ReCreate?

2. Also, what is the recommend time of cessation before Re-ReCreating?
 
Best way to take Powerfull . . . .

on empty stomach or with food? If empty, how long before you can put something else in there?

taken with water only, or is milk ok?
 
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