Quick Question Thread - Throw 'Em Up!!

i've just started my 2nd bottle of AP. it seems i'm not getting the same effects as the first. the first bottle had yellow pills with the name on them the new ones are blank white. the first bottle if i didn't eat within that 15 mins i would go hypoglycemic quickly, but not so with the last bottle. have i adapted some? could it be a bad batch? i noticed almost immediate recomp effects with the first one and loved it. or could i just be crazy?
 
many peoples adapted after 2-3 weeks (including me) , I actually didnt feel that hypo after a week and I had even better results with 2nd bootle :D
 
i was thinking maybe the hypo feeling is gone because my total carb count for each day has gone up. when i first started i was on a reduced or moderate carb diet. so i thought maybe after a few weeks of higher carbs my body was loaded up or something so the hypo feeling was less? i don't know i'm no scientist. i don't want to feel hypo but that let me know something was going on.... so i was wondering if it quit or bad bottle? if you are right and it gets better with this new bottle without much of the hypo feeling that would be awesome.
 
luggnut said:
i was thinking maybe the hypo feeling is gone because my total carb count for each day has gone up. when i first started i was on a reduced or moderate carb diet. so i thought maybe after a few weeks of higher carbs my body was loaded up or something so the hypo feeling was less? i don't know i'm no scientist. i don't want to feel hypo but that let me know something was going on.... so i was wondering if it quit or bad bottle? if you are right and it gets better with this new bottle without much of the hypo feeling that would be awesome.
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if you ask for explanation, you could wait for mullet to answer that.. I just told you what AP did to me.. it keep gettin better and better with AP.. in fact, I didnt feel anything while on AP, I just saw a recomp.. well,good luck! :D
 
luggnut said:
i was thinking maybe the hypo feeling is gone because my total carb count for each day has gone up. when i first started i was on a reduced or moderate carb diet. so i thought maybe after a few weeks of higher carbs my body was loaded up or something so the hypo feeling was less? i don't know i'm no scientist. i don't want to feel hypo but that let me know something was going on.... so i was wondering if it quit or bad bottle? if you are right and it gets better with this new bottle without much of the hypo feeling that would be awesome.
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The lethargic hypoglycaemic like feelings (while probably not actually hypoglycaemia) may have subsided due to your body's acclimation to the process. However, such feelings are merely aesthetic markers of the underlying physiological action of the product. As such, it is highly possible Anabolic Pump is yet working exactly as directed. What other effects have you noted.

As well, your hypothesis is a valid one; consistently increasing CHO intake would attenuate some of those lethargic feelings.
 
i didn't notice pumps much at the start .. i was doing heavy weight low rep training so when i switched to higher reps recently i did notice the pump.

i've had to adjust in my mind to eating that much carbs, i've been trying to drop some bodyfat. so i was scared of all those carbs, but once i tried it it did seem like i dropped fat and retained muscle. also libido has not fell off during a cut like normal i think it maybe because of those carbs?
 
would adding pslin to my supps regiment be a good idea if i'm trying to drop bodyfat? i currently use all Usp labs other stuff AP Cissus and powerfull and feel like i'm getting good results.

all the carbs kind of scare me ...sounds like a good bulking supp?
 
luggnut said:
would adding pslin to my supps regiment be a good idea if i'm trying to drop bodyfat? i currently use all Usp labs other stuff AP Cissus and powerfull and feel like i'm getting good results.

all the carbs kind of scare me ...sounds like a good bulking supp?
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It is, as it is greater in the acute MGU capacity than is Anabolic Pump. I feel confident in saying, that while Anabolic Pump is a greater product for overall body recomposition, P-Slin is much more adept to acute instances of very high CHO intake.
 
luggnut said:
...so i think you just said pslin is more for bulking?
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Not necessarily. That is the beauty in the supplements (Pslin and AP). No more are the days of the low carb requirement to lose bf. I am currently maintaining a moderate to high carb diet, while dropping bf%, gaining strength.

Look at my food log below to see some examples of my meals.
 
so with 40 grams of carbs per AP dose and then 60-100 for the pslin dose i would be getting 180-200 grams plus what ever my other meals contained. so say over 250.... plus about 200grams of protein and 80-100 grams of fat that gets me 2500-2700 calories. could i get cut on that many.

i'm 40 years old weigh about 200lbs at a rough guess 15% body fat.
 
luggnut said:
uhh mullet .... i'm from alabama. so i think you just said pslin is more for bulking?
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Haha, sorry dood.

What I meant was this:

Anabolic Pump alters the body's metabolism systems as a whole. This means it alters the manner in which your body processes lipids, the way it responds to extra- (outside) and intra (inside) cellular energy responses, the way it synthesizes cholesterol, the way it uptakes glucose and so on. This means, in short hand: it is more likely to produce body composition changes.

P-Slin on the other hand almost exclusively alters MGU (muscle glucose uptake). While the Lagerstroemia content still has an affect on PPAR-y (I won't go into it), at the particular standardization it is more about MGU than energy expenditure.

I think it is impossible to say one is for 'cutting', and the other 'bulking'. I think they both mitigate adipose gain, improve performance, and lead to increases in lean body mass. P-Slin is merely more adept at handling large acute doses of CHO (for performance, primarily), while AP is more of a chronic thing.
 
borobulker said:
Not necessarily. That is the beauty in the supplements (Pslin and AP). No more are the days of the low carb requirement to lose bf. I am currently maintaining a moderate to high carb diet, while dropping bf%, gaining strength.

Look at my food log below to see some examples of my meals.
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Food log.. that's effing awesome.
 
I'm coming off a bulk and want to lose body fat. I will be eating around 150g of carbs/day. Would using AP only 2 times a day at my 2 high carb meals still be beneficial or do you have to take it 3 times a day.

Also I am either choosing between Recreate or Anabolic Pump. Since I am on a lower carb diet which would help out more?
 
tl77 said:
I'm coming off a bulk and want to lose body fat. I will be eating around 150g of carbs/day. Would using AP only 2 times a day at my 2 high carb meals still be beneficial or do you have to take it 3 times a day.

Also I am either choosing between Recreate or Anabolic Pump. Since I am on a lower carb diet which would help out more?
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Anabolic Pump would definitely still be effective at 2 pills per day. There are people who only have one high carb meal per day and only use 1 Anabolic Pump per day and love the results.

It is hard to say which one would be better for your situation. I say stack them both for the best results :D
 
tl77 said:
I'm coming off a bulk and want to lose body fat. I will be eating around 150g of carbs/day. Would using AP only 2 times a day at my 2 high carb meals still be beneficial or do you have to take it 3 times a day.

Also I am either choosing between Recreate or Anabolic Pump. Since I am on a lower carb diet which would help out more?
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Wow, that's a hard question to answer! I would say the answer invariably boils down to preference in terms of non-stimulant, vs., stimulated lipolysis. If you feel during a cut you lack motivation and emotional drive, as well as experience concurrent strength losses, I would suggest ReCreate; however, if you are sensitive to the action of stimulants, I would suggest Anabolic Pump.

I realize this sounds like a line, but I do believe both are equally effective. A few members on this site in particular have noted AP's ability to dispose glucose in low CHO intake environments, to the point of remaining in Ketosis!
 
i have been on recreate for 8 weeks now. im currently 10.5 weeks out from my upcoming show. i know that you recommend only taking recreate for 12 weeks then taking a 4 week break. how would you suggest i finish out my last 10 weeks?

is it possible to take a break now and then start up again in jsut 2 weeks since i have only been on the recreate for 8 weeks then do another 8 weeks that would take me up to my show date?

thanks!

renee
 
renkev88 said:
i have been on recreate for 8 weeks now. im currently 10.5 weeks out from my upcoming show. i know that you recommend only taking recreate for 12 weeks then taking a 4 week break. how would you suggest i finish out my last 10 weeks?

is it possible to take a break now and then start up again in jsut 2 weeks since i have only been on the recreate for 8 weeks then do another 8 weeks that would take me up to my show date?

thanks!

renee
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Definitely, that is what I would suggest. The warning is more or less of legal, and not pragmatic nature - but, if IIRC, you are a fitness competitor and already know that!

How have you enjoyed ReCreate so far? I have had several female friends absolutely love the effects; it is a very potent anti-lipogenic without many of the harsh side effects associated with most fat burners.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Definitely, that is what I would suggest. The warning is more or less of legal, and not pragmatic nature - but, if IIRC, you are a fitness competitor and already know that!

How have you enjoyed ReCreate so far? I have had several female friends absolutely love the effects; it is a very potent anti-lipogenic without many of the harsh side effects associated with most fat burners.
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im loving the recreate!!! im getting great results !!even on those dreaded areas for females like thighs and butt! i hate to even take a break from it at this point!! im stim sensitive so i love that the recreat is so effective yet doest make me feel all cracked out and jittery. just a good source of clean energy.

thanks for the help!

renee
 
renkev88 said:
im loving the recreate!!! im getting great results and hate to even take a break from it!! im stim sensitive so i love that the recreat is so effective yet doest make me feel all cracked out and jittery. just a good source of clean energy.

thanks for the help!

renee
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Yeah, that's my favorite aspect as well. The energy is a euphoric focus, and the appetite suppression is a satiated feeling, and not merely a crushing blow.
 
RoadBlocK said:
Two days off recreate and Im feeling kinda tired-is it all in my head??
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im on my second day off of the recreate as well and im also feeling more tired which i can deal with its my increased hunger that are driving me crazy!!!!. like you said though not sure if its my head or not either.


all i know is i cant wait till my 2 week break is up and i can start up with the recreate again. i just hope that i dont chew my arm off before then!! lol
 
The fatigue could be due to a confluence of factors. Were you both hypocaloric? Did training intensify for either of you whilst on ReCreate?

Those answers aside, your body may just merely be acclimating itself to higher levels of Cortisol, lower levels of T3/T4 and norepinephrine, and decreased nutrient metabolism.
 
A little and yes. And I agree with all you wrote mullet, makes alot of sense.

Just for the record its not lethargy, lets clear that up right quick, it just seems like Ive been a little more tired, its hard to explain, but Ive had no appetite rebound or any mad cravings, thats all normal. I think you already answered my question, my body was in kinda turbo efficient mode between the recreate, the ap and the pf, and now Im just kinda slowing back down to semi-normal mode. Seriously, it all makes sense when you look at the big picture. Thanks.
 
RoadBlocK said:
A little and yes. And I agree with all you wrote mullet, makes alot of sense.

Just for the record its not lethargy, lets clear that up right quick, it just seems like Ive been a little more tired, its hard to explain, but Ive had no appetite rebound or any mad cravings, thats all normal. I think you already answered my question, my body was in kinda turbo efficient mode between the recreate, the ap and the pf, and now Im just kinda slowing back down to semi-normal mode. Seriously, it all makes sense when you look at the big picture. Thanks.
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Yeah, I investigated further, and there shouldn't be any negative feedback loop modulation producing suppression of noradrenaline or cortisol, T3 and so on. It is probably just your body acclimating itself to being normal again. I noticed a similar effect, no biggie!
 
RoadBlocK said:
A little and yes. And I agree with all you wrote mullet, makes alot of sense.

Just for the record its not lethargy, lets clear that up right quick, it just seems like Ive been a little more tired, its hard to explain, but Ive had no appetite rebound or any mad cravings, thats all normal. I think you already answered my question, my body was in kinda turbo efficient mode between the recreate, the ap and the pf, and now Im just kinda slowing back down to semi-normal mode. Seriously, it all makes sense when you look at the big picture. Thanks.
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yes for me on both those factors as well.


its definitly not legargy for me either. it just like you explained just a llittle more tired than im used to. but i also had in increase in hunger as well. but im also on a strict diet right now and for sure im buring atleast half my caloric intake alone from cardio and training. so that could also explain the tiredness and hunger as well as my body just trying to normalize again.
 
Yeah, it was most likely a confluence of several factors. In a hypocaloric state, your body becomes extremely efficient at conserving energy; being forced to expend it directly through anti-lipogenic (anti-fat) mechanisms, as well as increased intensity, would probably produce some fatigue when coming off. Nothing huge, just cutting sucks without ReCreate!
 
Mullet,

Neat thread. Ahhh... I love the wealth of information available on this site..

Quick question regarding creatine -

I had always heard creatine ethel-ester was better than monohydrate, but I have also heard that Kre-Alkalyn (which I guess is buffered from monohydrate or something) is really effective. I have a couple bottles of each from a local going out of business supp sale. Which would you say is the better of the two?

Both are in capsule form if it matters. The ethel-ester suggests 3 pills, twice daily. The Kre-Alkalyn 1500 suggests 2 pills, twice daily
 
Oops. I didnt notice when you sent me this link that the thread was in the USP product area. I thought it was just a Mullet answers all thread. LoL. My bad. If you can answer, great! If not, ill post in an appropriate thread...
 
SimplyDraven said:
Oops. I didnt notice when you sent me this link that the thread was in the USP product area. I thought it was just a Mullet answers all thread. LoL. My bad. If you can answer, great! If not, ill post in an appropriate thread...
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Haha, no. I'm no guru or expert dude; I'm not sure a Mullet answers all thread would be entirely that popular!

:thumbsup:
 
SimplyDraven said:
Mullet,

Neat thread. Ahhh... I love the wealth of information available on this site..

Quick question regarding creatine -

I had always heard creatine ethel-ester was better than monohydrate, but I have also heard that Kre-Alkalyn (which I guess is buffered from monohydrate or something) is really effective. I have a couple bottles of each from a local going out of business supp sale. Which would you say is the better of the two?

Both are in capsule form if it matters. The ethel-ester suggests 3 pills, twice daily. The Kre-Alkalyn 1500 suggests 2 pills, twice daily
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I am not a big fan of Kre-Alk, in neither a scientific of anecdotal sense. The enhanced delivery system is careful marketing and not much more, IMO. I would choose Monohydrate over Kre-Alk.
 
I have been using AP for the past 7 days and have recently added PowerFull. I currently take 1 AP before breakfast, lunch & dinner and 1 PowerFull 1 hour after breakfast and 2 Powerfull before bed. Oh I also take a vitamin pak usually 30 minutes after breakfast or lunch. What schedule and dose would you recommend of these two supplements?
 
PapaRan said:
I have been using AP for the past 7 days and have recently added PowerFull. I currently take 1 AP before breakfast, lunch & dinner and 1 PowerFull 1 hour after breakfast and 2 Powerfull before bed. Oh I also take a vitamin pak usually 30 minutes after breakfast or lunch. What schedule and dose would you recommend of these two supplements?
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What does your workout nutrition (pre/post) schedule look like?
 
quick question. i have a bunch of camp i want to use up in a cut. I also have bolic i want to use. I know that both have forslean in it, how much of each can i take without over doing it
 
PapaRan said:
I have been using AP for the past 7 days and have recently added PowerFull. I currently take 1 AP before breakfast, lunch & dinner and 1 PowerFull 1 hour after breakfast and 2 Powerfull before bed. Oh I also take a vitamin pak usually 30 minutes after breakfast or lunch. What schedule and dose would you recommend of these two supplements?
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I have stacked these two supps quite often over the last year. What you have there is how I took them the only thing different would be that on your training days take the first dose of powerfull like 30 mins before your workout. Also remember to take two consecutive days off from the powerfull weekly to maintain it's effectiveness. I'm not a rep or anything but thats how I dosed my ap/powerfull stack and got great results.

P.S.

AP's effectiveness is affected by how many carbs you take in with it. There are a few posts around explaining that angle. Hope this helps.
 
Disciple83 said:
I have stacked these two supps quite often over the last year. What you have there is how I took them the only thing different would be that on your training days take the first dose of powerfull like 30 mins before your workout. Also remember to take two consecutive days off from the powerfull weekly to maintain it's effectiveness. I'm not a rep or anything but thats how I dosed my ap/powerfull stack and got great results.

P.S.

AP's effectiveness is affected by how many carbs you take in with it. There are a few posts around explaining that angle. Hope this helps.
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Hey mate - there is a new dosing protocol for PowerFull. Take 3 pre WO (30min) and 2 before bed. As Disciples said, make sure you take the 2 days off a week.

Good Luck!
 
Just a followup not a question. I had posted about being a little more tired after stopping recreate. Well, I just wanted to say that its less than a week and already that "feeling" has passed. I dont know if it was solely due to stopping recreate, but initially the tired feeling seemed to come from the absence of recreate, and now I dont feel any abnormality in energy at all. To me this is just one more benefit of recreate, that there really wasnt a crash upon cessation, more so just a very brief readjustment period which went fairly smooth, with no real serious negatives. Ive had no weight gain, and my energy level seems to be back to what it was pre-recreate, and surprisingly there has been no increase in my appetite, which I was initially concerned about. I will be taking a short time off recreate and then jumping back on as soon as I can afford some more. All in all, recreate definitely delivered on its promises for me, and I will be using it as a staple supplement whenever the budget allows me to.
 
RoadBlocK said:
Just a followup not a question. I had posted about being a little more tired after stopping recreate. Well, I just wanted to say that its less than a week and already that "feeling" has passed. I dont know if it was solely due to stopping recreate, but initially the tired feeling seemed to come from the absence of recreate, and now I dont feel any abnormality in energy at all. To me this is just one more benefit of recreate, that there really wasnt a crash upon cessation, more so just a very brief readjustment period which went fairly smooth, with no real serious negatives. Ive had no weight gain, and my energy level seems to be back to what it was pre-recreate, and surprisingly there has been no increase in my appetite, which I was initially concerned about. I will be taking a short time off recreate and then jumping back on as soon as I can afford some more. All in all, recreate definitely delivered on its promises for me, and I will be using it as a staple supplement whenever the budget allows me to.
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i just completed my first week of recreate after 8 weeks of use and as i posted before i too noticed some extra tiredness as my body tried to reset itself and get back to normal. this lasted about 3 days. now i feel like im back to normal. with the recreate my hunger was under control between meals but would start to feel hunger at my scheduled meal times. so when i came off the recreate i did have an increase in hunger but remember that im also on a cutting diet where my cals are just at maintance some days and slightly below maintanceon others and im weight training 5 days a week and doing cardio 7 days a week for 50 min as im 9 weeks out from a figure show. so my extra hunger could very well be from those factors as well not just the stopping of recreate.

i have not gained any weight back after stopping the recreate which i was worried about especially being only 9 weeks out from a show. i love the recreate and plan on starting up again in a week and use it up to my contest along with the AP!
 
renkev88 said:
i just completed my first week of recreate after 8 weeks of use and as i posted before i too noticed some extra tiredness as my body tried to reset itself and get back to normal. this lasted about 3 days. now i feel like im back to normal. with the recreate my hunger was under control between meals but would start to feel hunger at my scheduled meal times. so when i came off the recreate i did have an increase in hunger but remember that im also on a cutting diet where my cals are just at maintance some days and slightly below maintanceon others and im weight training 5 days a week and doing cardio 7 days a week for 50 min as im 9 weeks out from a figure show. so my extra hunger could very well be from those factors as well not just the stopping of recreate.

i have not gained any weight back after stopping the recreate which i was worried about especially being only 9 weeks out from a show. i love the recreate and plan on starting up again in a week and use it up to my contest along with the AP!
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Awesome to hear you're getting good results :cool:

Keep us updated!
 
What's the word on r-ala supplementation and AP? Not at the same time I assume, but r-ala some meals, ap some meals. Thoughts?

Also, what are your thoughts on stacking Applied Nutricetials neovar recomped with ap/pslin, ect?
 
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