Question for DR. D

umdog

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Ran a 3 week Ergo-Prostanzol Stack and had to quit, caused it made me the meanest F-er in the Universe..... I have kids and it just wasn't worth it ! But now I am struggling with the Libido and sex drive issue

I am having a rough time during PCT.. Here is my regime

Week 1-4 Clomid 100/75/50/25
Week 1-4 Nolvadex 60/40/40/20
Week 1-4 Giants ATD
Week 1-4 Fenugreek
Week 1-4 Blue Rhino
Week 1-4 DHEA 200/100/50/25

I am starting the Blue Rhino Tomorrow... But Doc, I aint got a bit of wood in like 2 weeks or longer... Wife will catch on soon and I will be anserwing alot of questions...

Please anyone help and lay out a proper PCT..... CLomid or Nolvadex? Not sure what to drop !
 
Id say if you are worried about her catching on grab some cialis or viagra to hold you off untill the sex drive bounces back
 
I need something today, may grab some Enzyte..... worth a shot I guess....

How long do people run 5g of trib for ?

Is 200mg of DHEA safe? Some say to take that much and it will help

WTF so confused ?



captain chet said:
Id say if you are worried about her catching on grab some cialis or viagra to hold you off untill the sex drive bounces back
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I heard that enzyte is junk. I think you might be overdoing it with the anti e's. I would drop the clomid. what dose of atd are you taking? try some zma to help with libido.

but dr d is the expert.
 
You are way overdoing your pct. Drop one of the SERMS, and lower your ATD dosage if not drop it all together.
 
So run

Clomid - 100/75/50
Giant ATD - 75mg
DHEA 100-150mg
Fenugreek 3g/3.5g/4g
Blue Rhino - as directed
ZMA - what brand is best for the $$$$


Thanks guys, need that libido back, gotta perform :)

later


ryansm said:
You are way overdoing your pct. Drop one of the SERMS, and lower your ATD dosage if not drop it all together.
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In regards to the ATD, ive been reading a lot of things stating that people are actually losing libido towards the end of their ATD/Ultra HOT PCT's, even though their test and free test levels might be sky high. Once people come off and do a few days at double dosage of ZMA things work fine again. Could this be that ATD lowers estrogen and raises test so much that it actually kills libido?
 
Estrogen actually plays a role in libido function, too much of a SERM, or AI (which has always been a no no for pct) can cause more problems.
 
It could (and I am speculating) have something to do with ATD blocking the ar centrally and thus having a negative imapact on libido.
 
I am not sure WTF to do.... My thread that was posted a few boxes above was never clearly given a clear statement..... I have read so many threads on Clomid & Nova together, some say never take together.... All I know is that I have no drive or libido whatsoever....... I would love for DR. D to map out me a PCT.... But I cant PM anyone.???

I am starting the Blue Rhino tomorrow....
I will buy some ZMA today.......
I will stop using the Nolvadex.....
I will stop the ATD also

I will continue with Clomid 100/75/50
I will continue the Fenugreek 3g/3.5g/4g
I will continue the DHEA 200mg for 3 days, 100/50
I will continue with Blue Rhino and some ZMA
Ordered some Cialis today from IBE ..... mabye that will hide things till get drive back....


Does this sound good or am I missing something or need to drop something






captain chet said:
In regards to the ATD, ive been reading a lot of things stating that people are actually losing libido towards the end of their ATD/Ultra HOT PCT's, even though their test and free test levels might be sky high. Once people come off and do a few days at double dosage of ZMA things work fine again. Could this be that ATD lowers estrogen and raises test so much that it actually kills libido?
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umdog said:
.... But I cant PM anyone.???
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Make the plunge into that pocket that had enough $ to buy all of your PCT supps and donate a measely $10 to gain access to to PM's and then you can even feel good about supporting a board that helps keep your boys going strong.
 
umdog said:
I am starting the Blue Rhino tomorrow....
I will buy some ZMA today.......
I will stop using the Nolvadex.....
I will stop the ATD also

I will continue with Clomid 100/75/50
I will continue the Fenugreek 3g/3.5g/4g
I will continue the DHEA 200mg for 3 days, 100/50
I will continue with Blue Rhino and some ZMA
Ordered some Cialis today from IBE ..... mabye that will hide things till get drive back....
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That looks much more reasonable. You could add a low dose AI to counter any aromatization of the dhea (like 25 mg's/ed of ATD or better yet 100 mg's/day 6-OXO). Moderate dose 6-OXO has been shown to raise testosterone without lowering estrogen and is unique in this regards.

Also, with all the dough you will be saving by cutting back on all of those AI and SERM's, you could donate $10 bucks to the board and gain PM privileges ;)
 
jonny21 said:
Make the plunge into that pocket that had enough $ to buy all of your PCT supps and donate a measely $10 to gain access to to PM's and then you can even feel good about supporting a board that helps keep your boys going strong.
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You obviously were reading my mind ;)
 
bow said:
You obviously were reading my mind ;)
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Must be the 100 monkey phenomenon at work. Its all one mind.
 
6-oxo

Should I run the ATD (I already have full bottle of Giant) or should I go with the 6-0XO. If I should try the ATD at 25mg daily to help with DHEA conversion, how long til I see a difference......


Also what are the best times to take clomid. I have been taking a dose in the AM and one in the Early PM......

Thanks guys



jonny21 said:
Must be the 100 monkey phenomenon at work. Its all one mind.
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So I need to take the ATD to combat the estrogen from the DHEA conversion......
I need the clomid for all the obvious reasons....... estrogen, testosterone etc...
I have been taking Nolvadex 20mg at night....... Since quitting the Nolvadex , I should run the clomid at bedtime right ? I have a severe problem with puffy nipples. So whatever will keep that off me will be awesome.....

I am also taking Lean Extreme and Fenugreek .....

I guess this will work



umdog said:
Should I run the ATD (I already have full bottle of Giant) or should I go with the 6-0XO. If I should try the ATD at 25mg daily to help with DHEA conversion, how long til I see a difference......


Also what are the best times to take clomid. I have been taking a dose in the AM and one in the Early PM......

Thanks guys
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captain chet said:
Id say if you are worried about her catching on grab some cialis or viagra to hold you off untill the sex drive bounces back
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Exactly, you just have to wait for the bounce. In the meantime, try about 2.5-5mg yohimbine HCl w/ a cup of Enerdisia herbal coffee (Herbal Powers brand). This is great for situational relief while you're waiting for the test to come back. Plus, ActivaTe helps too, pretty well actually. My last PCT was super smooth using it.
 
LOL...Methinks Dr.D needs to be given a new title.

Not "Board Supporter" but, "PCT Specialist".

I swear people come here from all over the net for your PCT advice....you should start charging :lol:

umdogFOR FUTURE REFERENCE, if you would like to see lots of information by Dr.D about PCT, use the search function as follows:

Search for all posts by user Dr.D, and search for PCT*

NOTE: The '*' is important, its the wildcard referrer. PCT by itself is too short to search for, so use the wildcard option to search for any word that starts with PCT, which includes PCT.
 
My Pct 3rd day: Fenu. 1200 mg,1800 mg, 2400 mg
Maca 5 gr.
Dhea/7 oxo transdermal 200 mg./ 4 sprays
Bev ZMA
Nolva. 40/20/20 at night
RXT 3rd wk. 50/25/25
Liver and blood support supps.
I may drop the ZMA because my scalp is itching like crazy when I wake up. I'm also using Nizoral 1% Shampoo to combat DHT at the scalp. As far as libido? I have returned. I shot 3 sprays of the transdermal yesterday morning on my midsection and became an angry aggressive animal. I will not be experimenting like that today. 2 sprays morning/ 2 at noon is enough. Started SD at 189,went to 198, and I'm 197 this morning. I thought I lost my definition until SD left. 10 lbs and defined, I'm happy.

I would start taking raw Maca powder for your libido. It works.
 
DR.D said:
Plus, ActivaTe helps too, pretty well actually. My last PCT was super smooth using it.
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I thought that ActivaTe is ATD. And he's already taking ATD. Am I wrong here?
 
N4cer said:
I thought that ActivaTe is ATD. And he's already taking ATD. Am I wrong here?
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Activate is Designer's SHGB binding supplment (nettle root I believe). When stacked with ATD, they call it their "non-hormonal anabolic" stack.
 
Have to agree with Mach about the Maca. Should be a staple supp. Take 5 grams of maca and stare at my avatar....
 
Grassroots082 said:
5g of MACA all at once?
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Yes, or you can divide it. Click on my avatar and read some posts about Maca. Really good stuff.

Bionic, I just took my Maca. I feel like playing the butt bongos on your avatar. Cracka lacka pippity pop! :woohoo:
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
I swear people come here from all over the net for your PCT advice....you should start charging :lol:
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Well I hope I'm not attracting the "rift-raft" to come over here, but I have noticed a lot of BB.com'ers here these days now that you mention it! :run:
 
HELLO DR.D

DR.D said:
Well I hope I'm not attracting the "rift-raft" to come over here, but I have noticed a lot of BB.com'ers here these days now that you mention it! :run:
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.Was wondering how long after pct can I take lean xtreme before going into next sd cycle.
 
wheels said:
.Was wondering how long after pct can I take lean xtreme before going into next sd cycle.
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Hey wheels!
I suggest LX for 2-3 wks at least into PCT. You can keep taking it as long as you like though. Even with the SD if you want, though it really isn't required. So there is no time limit.
 
i want to try maca. Mach 78 , do you know the cheapest website to buy maca?



Mach .78 said:
Yes, or you can divide it. Click on my avatar and read some posts about Maca. Really good stuff.

Bionic, I just took my Maca. I feel like playing the butt bongos on your avatar. Cracka lacka pippity pop! :woohoo:
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