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Q and A for Olympus labs EP1C

koi1214 said:
What type of routine you using while on Epic?
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I just made my own routine. But basically I do 5x5 on every major lift and I go as heavy as I possibly can. I usually grab a spotter so that I can really go all out. I then add 5 lb to each lift every week and go from there. For each workout, after I have done the 5x5, I do straight up hypertrophy routine. Every set I do 8-12 reps. Tons of sets, tons of volume in general (my favorite personally)

My 5x5 has definitely shot up on Ep1c, but the most impressive strength gains have been in the 8-12 rep range. I am able to do weight at that rep range AFTER I have done the 5x5 portion of my workouts that I was not able to do at the beginning of my workout, prior to Ep1c.
 
Hockeyaus33 said:
I just made my own routine. But basically I do 5x5 on every major lift and I go as heavy as I possibly can. I usually grab a spotter so that I can really go all out. I then add 5 lb to each lift every week and go from there. For each workout, after I have done the 5x5, I do straight up hypertrophy routine. Every set I do 8-12 reps. Tons of sets, tons of volume in general (my favorite personally)

My 5x5 has definitely shot up on Ep1c, but the most impressive strength gains have been in the 8-12 rep range. I am able to do weight at that rep range AFTER I have done the 5x5 portion of my workouts that I was not able to do at the beginning of my workout, prior to Ep1c.
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I agree with you on this.I have added crazy weight to my accessory lifts and with (-)-epicatechin the ammount of endurance is just crazy.
 
T-Bone said:
Why would you think I'm being a smart ass?. I seriously thought maybe I was missing out!. If they came out with a pure whey product I'd purchase that to try it out. I don't know, he could have been a secret beta tester or something.
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Im not aware of a pure whey protein that PES makes, but blend is better! Edit: and i think i read your post a little wrong! It just sounded like you knew that PES doesn't make a pure whey protein and you pointed it out. Sorry about that mate.
 
T-Bone said:
Did you just mean PES Select or is PES making a pure whey product now?. Just wondering if I'm missing out!. I'd love to try a new product from PES!
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Oh wow yeah sorry , I meant just PES select lol

After all, that is the point of PES select, the fact that it is a blend. Silly me. thanks for pointing that out

I called it whey out of habit because I take PES select directly after my workout and I always correlate whey protein with fast absorption which is needed after the workout.
 
Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, but what would you guys recommend as far as dosing? I'm a big time "natural" guy (I don't really like taking a lot of supplements to begin with, let alone those that are new/ones that we don't necessarily know the long term effects of), so I like to start anything slow. I'm just wondering if I'd be wasting my money taking 1 cap per day. Also, I'm very broke right now, and 2 bottles is pretty pricey for me, so I'm a bit hesitant to go that route..... Also, last time I tried something new was anabeta, in which I ordered 2 bottles, and for whatever reason, my blood pressure went way up (only a few others seem to have had this effect), so I had to drop it and basically threw all that money down the drain.

Anyway, just wondering how 1 capsule a day would work/wondering if it would be a waste.


Thanks
 
My friend is doing one everyday and it is working for him. Def not a waste!

I do two pwo and one on my only off day
 
Contaygious said:
My friend is doing one everyday and it is working for him. Def not a waste!

I do two pwo and one on my only off day
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I was actually thinking of going the same route you are with the 2 pwo and 1 on off days. I just can't figure out whether I want to do two bottles of epic, or one of that and one of erase (I haven't tried the abieta formula yet, but never really saw a whole lot with arimastane, even at 3 a day I wasn't even getting dry joints or anything).... oh well, thanks for the advice, I'll definitely pick up at least one bottle here soon.
 
bill86 said:
Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, but what would you guys recommend as far as dosing? I'm a big time "natural" guy (I don't really like taking a lot of supplements to begin with, let alone those that are new/ones that we don't necessarily know the long term effects of), so I like to start anything slow. I'm just wondering if I'd be wasting my money taking 1 cap per day. Also, I'm very broke right now, and 2 bottles is pretty pricey for me, so I'm a bit hesitant to go that route..... Also, last time I tried something new was anabeta, in which I ordered 2 bottles, and for whatever reason, my blood pressure went way up (only a few others seem to have had this effect), so I had to drop it and basically threw all that money down the drain.

Anyway, just wondering how 1 capsule a day would work/wondering if it would be a waste.


Thanks
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I am running 1 cap a day and feel that it is working pretty well going by how my body is responding. However it is hard to say since it is also a totally new program. I can tell you that days I thought DOMS would be crippling they were not as bad as expected and my shoulders and chest are filling back out quickly.

bill86 said:
I was actually thinking of going the same route you are with the 2 pwo and 1 on off days. I just can't figure out whether I want to do two bottles of epic, or one of that and one of erase (I haven't tried the abieta formula yet, but never really saw a whole lot with arimastane, even at 3 a day I wasn't even getting dry joints or anything).... oh well, thanks for the advice, I'll definitely pick up at least one bottle here soon.
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This is something I was contemplating as well. Actually I was contemplating running 1 cap every 16-18 hours. However for now i am trying to establish a noticeable baseline before I make changes.
 
Any idea how I can make a 10 week cycle using 2 bottles of ep1c and 1 bottle of anabeta original ? I was thinking something along the lines of

Anabeta weeks 1-4
Ep1c. weeks 3-10 2 caps a day

Or...
ep1c weeks 1-8 2 caps a day
Anabeta weeks 7-10

Would anyone of theses benifit over the other ? I also weigh 175 with 16% bf at 5'9 .I've also read a few logs about people takin 1 ep1c ed and some 2 ed with great results so; I'm also open to taking ep1c at 1 1/2 caps a day and run 2 bottles till its gone. Thanks for any advice in advance .
 
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The DOMS haven't been bad at all, I'm on 2 pwo, 1 off days and it seems to be the sweet spot for me. The gains in strength are getting stupid, I literally toy with weights that were heavy for me 5 weeks ago. I could tell a difference first week, but once I passed the 4 week mark is when it really took off. I'm getting leaner, harder and my weight is also going up.
 
KimChee75 said:
The DOMS haven't been bad at all, I'm on 2 pwo, 1 off days and it seems to be the sweet spot for me. The gains in strength are getting stupid, I literally toy with weights that were heavy for me 5 weeks ago. I could tell a difference first week, but once I passed the 4 week mark is when it really took off. I'm getting leaner, harder and my weight is also going up.
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Yeah its honestly the 4th week mark where you seriously ask yourself "is this real life?" Doing like a set of 10 reps with weight you could only pull for 6 reps before the cycle, and for more sets as well.
 
Spaniard said:
What good is it if you can't get it? We're just delivering what the customers want brother. Glad you approve =)
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Ostar1ne is out of stock at np, any idea when it will be in stock?
 
Olympus Labs said:
we have been trying our best to keep up with the NP orders. Should be in stock within a few days.
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Not a problem I ordered it and some dermastregth from phwarehouse
 
funkd0c said:
How do you think running 300mg EP1C with 10mg Ostarine would fair? Probably an 8 week run
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I think this would be decent but not sure about running osta @10mg I really don't think it will add too much. I assume it would but then your test would adjust itself more than likely negating gains and creating a status quo for the anabolic environment. I would run it at 20 then run a natty test booster afterwards myself.

I have to say I have been on the EPIC for a couple weeks and have not been hitting the gym as hard as I wanted due to being hurt and I am starting to see my chest and shoulders fill back out while in a deficit.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I think this would be decent but not sure about running osta @10mg I really don't think it will add too much. I assume it would but then your test would adjust itself more than likely negating gains and creating a status quo for the anabolic environment. I would run it at 20 then run a natty test booster afterwards myself.

I have to say I have been on the EPIC for a couple weeks and have not been hitting the gym as hard as I wanted due to being hurt and I am starting to see my chest and shoulders fill back out while in a deficit.
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With 20 or more I think a serm is better for pct. Also an ai like super pct.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I think this would be decent but not sure about running osta @10mg I really don't think it will add too much. I assume it would but then your test would adjust itself more than likely negating gains and creating a status quo for the anabolic environment. I would run it at 20 then run a natty test booster afterwards myself. I have to say I have been on the EPIC for a couple weeks and have not been hitting the gym as hard as I wanted due to being hurt and I am starting to see my chest and shoulders fill back out while in a deficit.
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Thank you. I was just hoping a boost for joints with the osta. And 20mg might merit a SERM. I just started follidrone and waiting for my epic to come in. I have a bottle of Ostar1ne and thought about adding it. I'm cutting at the moment so not looking for gains just muscle retention
 
I'm on 120mg dermatren and 500mg epiandro and it's been great to me, even better than super dmz 3.0. To finish in 60 days I'll bump up to 180 dt/maybe 7-800 epiandro last 15 days if still feeling real good. I want to feel better during PCT, and would epic (and Dermastrength? ) do the trick? Along with a SERM. Looks like it might take a couple weeks to kick in- suggest I start one or both around day 45 of a 60 day cycle, or wait till PCT? I've learned that "myostatin is a bodybuilders worst enemy"!
Thanks for all this great info.
 
I ran trest up to 150 and dmz up to 60 for 7 weeks almost. Pct was clomid, dermastrength, super PCT then the last week I added Ep1c.
Without the epic I managed to keep my strength gains and most of the mass I added. Since adding ep1c I feel even better. All these plus super PCT will treat u really well. As far as starting a week before I would and did with the dermastrength. 2 pumps of the TD and 2 epic pwo and u will be happy.
 
DevilDog2136 said:
I ran trest up to 150 and dmz up to 60 for 7 weeks almost. Pct was clomid, dermastrength, super PCT then the last week I added Ep1c.
Without the epic I managed to keep my strength gains and most of the mass I added. Since adding ep1c I feel even better. All these plus super PCT will treat u really well. As far as starting a week before I would and did with the dermastrength. 2 pumps of the TD and 2 epic pwo and u will be happy.
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Thanks man! That's just what I was wanting to hear. I actually do already have SUP3R pct too, all good. Time to head to golds.
 
DevilDog2136 said:
I ran trest up to 150 and dmz up to 60 for 7 weeks almost. Pct was clomid, dermastrength, super PCT then the last week I added Ep1c.
Without the epic I managed to keep my strength gains and most of the mass I added. Since adding ep1c I feel even better. All these plus super PCT will treat u really well. As far as starting a week before I would and did with the dermastrength. 2 pumps of the TD and 2 epic pwo and u will be happy.
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Btw, killer trest/DMZ log! Thanks for it, VERY informative. Dermatrest is high on my list- am thinking of doing it 50mg a day with 2 bottles of oxydrone (msten+halodrol) that I have, for winter. Take it easy
 
This may mean nothing, but I'm seeing body recomp changes on Ep1C that I didn't see on my first bottle of Follidrone.

I'm dosing at 2 caps per day...Could it be that the Follidrone needed time to build up?
 
DevilDog2136 said:
I ran trest up to 150 and dmz up to 60 for 7 weeks almost. Pct was clomid, dermastrength, super PCT then the last week I added Ep1c.
Without the epic I managed to keep my strength gains and most of the mass I added. Since adding ep1c I feel even better. All these plus super PCT will treat u really well. As far as starting a week before I would and did with the dermastrength. 2 pumps of the TD and 2 epic pwo and u will be happy.
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Hey DD, my PCT is just like yours, with the exception of nolva for Clomid. IF you had to choose between epic and Dermastrength in PCT, which would you? I'm not sure I'll do both.
And will you continue to use epic and/or Dermastrength up to your next cycle? Looks like they are safe for that. Thanks man
DevilDog2136 said:
I ran trest up to 150 and dmz up to 60 for 7 weeks almost. Pct was clomid, dermastrength, super PCT then the last week I added Ep1c.
Without the epic I managed to keep my strength gains and most of the mass I added. Since adding ep1c I feel even better. All these plus super PCT will treat u really well. As far as starting a week before I would and did with the dermastrength. 2 pumps of the TD and 2 epic pwo and u will be happy.
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JD70 said:
Hey DD, my PCT is just like yours, with the exception of nolva for Clomid. IF you had to choose between epic and Dermastrength in PCT, which would you? I'm not sure I'll do both. And will you continue to use epic and/or Dermastrength up to your next cycle? Looks like they are safe for that. Thanks man
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Hey man I'd def say us DermaStr3ngth the while time. I did and I worked great. 2 bottles at 2 pumps a day pick it up at the NP sale. U can't beat the price. I started Ep1c the last week and have noticed the difference also since taking that. So what I would do is is dermastr3ngth during pct then bridge with epic till ur next cycle. That's what I'm doing.
 
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