PWO carb choice

only to a point jiigzz..not a blank check with which to write whatever amount or source of carbs you want

This is another complex subject but again I like what you said; do what works for you. In fact i say that to a lot of people these days.

I teach them the basics, then tell them to manipulate variables to suit their preferences because there is no wrong answer (to a degree lol). I myself love nutrient timing peri workout and for me that consists of a big meal pre, gatorade intra and creamed rice, blueberries and a scoop of whey post. This often totals 200g of carbs for all three meals with fats and proteins for dinner and breakfast (carbs only peri workout).

Love this approach.
 
This is another complex subject but again I like what you said; do what works for you. In fact i say that to a lot of people these days.

I teach them the basics, then tell them to manipulate variables to suit their preferences because there is no wrong answer (to a degree lol). I myself love nutrient timing peri workout and for me that consists of a big meal pre, gatorade intra and creamed rice, blueberries and a scoop of whey post. This often totals 200g of carbs for all three meals with fats and proteins for dinner and breakfast (carbs only peri workout).

Love this approach.
sure - very valid approach
many roads leads to rome.....
and I concur with you: best thing to say these days seems to be "just do what works for you" ;)
saves so much hassle, doesn't it
 
sure - very valid approach
many roads leads to rome.....
and I concur with you: best thing to say these days seems to be "just do what works for you" ;)
saves so much hassle, doesn't it

It sure does. Only fix what is broken
 
It's trial and error. I have minimal carbs pre but post I have large amounts with varying GI. I normally go for a 60:40 ratio of simple to complex and regarding jiggz post, post workout is when if you will be eating larger number of carbs the muscle is most insulin sensitive (glut-4 expression I believe. So from my experiences, if I train fasted. I can get away with over 200g carbs regardless of source post workout meal and still get leaner.
 
Well as I say the shake is a convenience thing for me. I have no issue with Vitargo. Never tried wazy maize though.
Try hbcd with aminos or peptopro, works great
 
These are plenty of old posts and articles posted at AM showing no benefit from high GI carbs vs low GI. I've used both seen no difference in term of gain or performance. Now I use a mix of low (palatinose), medium (trehalose) and small quantity of high (maltodextrine) GI carbs. And this is just a taste preference. Not taking into account the taste I'd use grounded oat. I still do that sometimes.
I think the ground oats would mix better if they are cooked a bit
 
Amen to this Brutha.

What's hot and gospel today will be dismissed as old school or bro-logic tomorrow.

This topic always has been and seems to always remain in perpetual flux and somehow, gets refuted from both sides with convincing studies.

LOL :p

many guys on here will argue that statement. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fast/slow carb iifym debate and the significance of insulin release. I don't know if I'm smarter or dumber than I was on this subject opposed to a month ago?
 
Amen to this BruthaWhat's hot and gospel today will be dismissed as old school or br- logic tomorrow.This topic always has been and seems to always remain in perpetual flux and somehow, gets refuted from both sides with convincing studies. LOL :p
Yeah its been like that as long as I been lifting. Sellers have a reason to hype ingredients because they are pressured into always bringing out new stuff. Why? Because yesterdays stuff has usually been proven bunk by people using it.

Thats why its always a new formula. You don't see that in other industries. there is no consistency in supplements. Pretty much everything you were able to buy 3 years ago is off the shelfs or reformulated
 
Amen to this Brutha

What's hot and gospel today will be dismissed as old school or br- logic tomorrow.

This topic always has been and seems to always remain in perpetual flux and somehow, gets refuted from both sides with convincing studies. LOL :p

Everybody who I see , and talk to about this **** keep telling me I need to make a shirt that says:

"****ing science, bitches"

I'm all about reviewing MOAs before trying and seeing if applicable to current plan.

There IS research on specific carbohydrates/food addiitives that can make it a feasible choice for supplementation for weight loss

I will not go into detail here maybe one day ill do a brief cliff note on them.

Find your goal, I bet I can find a powder that works for you
 
Yeah its been like that as long as I been lifting. Sellers have a reason to hype ingredients because they are pressured into always bringing out new stuff. Why? Because yesterdays stuff has usually been proven bunk by people using it.

Need to be informed

Unfortunately marketing of big companies cause the bro logic because its what is the "hot seller" causing a massive amount of hipsters.

Have a question on a carb specifically? I have spoke to Whacked about it somewhat.

Be goal/diet oriented.
 
Need to be informed Unfortunately marketing of big companies cause the bro logic because its what is the "hot seller" causing a massive amount of hipsters. Have a question on a carb specifically? I have spoke to Whacked about it somewhat. Be goal/diet oriented.
Well I have been using HBCD and di tri peptides. Im really liking it
 
What's your goal,If muscle accretion then your on the right track
Yeah IM trying to get some of my size back after a 5 year lay off lol. I'm already up 25 pounds. i used to be 256
 
accretion? what is this, astrophysics or bb'ing? :think:interesting choice of words
Had to look that up myself. Thank god for google im a dumb f u c k
 
Been loving my run with Invalid Link Removed in terms of a preworkout, usually running it at 1-2 caps, 2 caps is potent...
 
I posted a thread at tnation politely asking1, What are the benefit of using Isomaltulose in the Plazma formula as opposed to 100% Highly branched cyclic dextrin? 2. What is the % of di and tri peptides in the MAG-10 protein? I heard it was 97%? Is that correct? And my thread was removed and i was directed to customer service. Does anybody know the answer? I hope the Isomaltulose isn't just a filler to cheapen the product?
 
Weird

EBF will know

I posted a thread at tnation politely asking1, What are the benefit of using Isomaltulose in the Plazma formula as opposed to 100% Highly branched cyclic dextrin? 2. What is the % of di and tri peptides in the MAG-10 protein? I heard it was 97%? Is that correct? And my thread was removed and i was directed to customer service. Does anybody know the answer? I hope the Isomaltulose isn't just a filler to cheapen the product?
 
Weird EBF will know
Not really they delete anything thats not fanboyish pretty much. I like the company though I think they make quality stuff. I like that delivery system they got to. Thank go for forums like this where you can speak your mind and ask legit questions. That recompadrol thread I got would be banned on site at tnation if it was one of their products.
 
That stinks. Well, screw em :p

Ps: Hit EBF up. Dude is sick knowledgeable; especially on anything related to carbs/insulin response. etc Very good helpful dude.

Not really they delete anything thats not fanboyish pretty much. I like the company though I think they make quality stuff. I like that delivery system they got to. Thank go for forums like this where you can speak your mind and ask legit questions. That recompadrol thread I got would be banned on site at tnation if it was one of their products.
 
Hey EBF can you check out my post please????????
 
I posted a thread at tnation politely asking1, What are the benefit of using Isomaltulose in the Plazma formula as opposed to 100% Highly branched cyclic dextrin? 2. What is the % of di and tri peptides in the MAG-10 protein? I heard it was 97%? Is that correct? And my thread was removed and i was directed to customer service. Does anybody know the answer? I hope the Isomaltulose isn't just a filler to cheapen the product?

This the post?

Without the label break down hard to tell man

Hbcd is more viscous, molecular weight is I believe a bit higher so uptake into cells is quicker and the amount of water it pulls to tissues would be more

Isomaltulose has a very tiny impact on insulin levels and its over hours. It's a perfect diabetic carb IMO or intra for keto. Also it's found in small amounts in honey.

Personally at over 30g it hurts my stomach.
 
This the post?

Without the label break down hard to tell man

Hbcd is more viscous, molecular weight is I believe a bit higher so uptake into cells is quicker and the amount of water it pulls to tissues would be more

Isomaltulose has a very tiny impact on insulin levels and its over hours. It's a perfect diabetic carb IMO or intra for keto. Also it's found in small amounts in honey.

Personally at over 30g it hurts my stomach.
Yeah this is the label
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Basically Im wondering if the imalutose is a filler and 100% cyclic dextrin would be better. Also wondering if the di and tri peptides they use are that much better then peptopro or would pepto be just as good?
 
I would just opt for HBCD
if you want to mix carb sources, try adding in some brown rice syrup

am I reading this right? 3 servings per workout..20 servings in a container..
so, not even 7 full workouts worth, for the bargain basement pricing of $70??
shrewd
 
I would just opt for HBCD
if you want to mix carb sources, try adding in some brown rice syrup

am I reading this right? 3 servings per workout..20 servings in a container..
so, not even 7 full workouts worth, for the bargain basement pricing of $70??
shrewd
I know thats why Im not buying it, It works though They kindly sent me a free one. I only use 2 servings but still. I actually like the mag10 protien pulsing strategy as much if not better. I have to admit the recovery from this stuff is crazy. Im a big guy and I say if you use the full three servings you will surely puke
 
Low carb guy here.

I just bought this stuff from Amazon. Will let you all know how it pans out.

Vthal Brand Kosher Isomaltulose - 16 oz for $10

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EBF: Will keep you posted of course and thanks again for the suggestion.
 
Low carb guy here.

I just bought this stuff from Amazon. Will let you all know how it pans out.

Vthal Brand Kosher Isomaltulose - 16 oz for $10

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EBF: Will keep you posted of course and thanks again for the suggestion.

No prob. Start at 20g and go up 10g or so till you get to 50
 
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For all the helpful bros!
 
WTF My nutraplanet order is still processing, why didn't they ship it today? Im calling them first thing in AM and demanding free overnight shipping. This is ludicrous. My defense is impregnable, I wish NP had children so I could stomp on their testicles!
 
WTF My nutraplanet order is still processing, why didn't they ship it today? Im calling them first thing in AM and demanding free overnight shipping. This is ludicrous. My defense is impregnable, I wish NP had children so I could stomp on their testicles!

Bro, you need to chill!

Something may have been sold out

Labels are goin on recompadrol tomorrow!!!

So ill have some shipped to np
 
Bro, you need to chill!

Something may have been sold out

Labels are goin on recompadrol tomorrow!!!

So ill have some shipped to np
Well I was just doing a mike tyson parody but still. When I placed my order on sat it said it was in stock. If its not they shouldn't hold up my whole order over it. I paid 12 buck to have it here by wednesday. If they wait on the 1 item it prob won't even ship until wed, Thats not right.
 
Well I was just doing a mike tyson parody but still. When I placed my order on sat it said it was in stock. If its not they shouldn't hold up my whole order over it. I paid 12 buck to have it here by wednesday. If they wait on the 1 item it prob won't even ship until wed, Thats not right.
Voice your concerns with CS.
 
WTF My nutraplanet order is still processing, why didn't they ship it today? Im calling them first thing in AM and demanding free overnight shipping. This is ludicrous. My defense is impregnable, I wish NP had children so I could stomp on their testicles!

Lol ya chill man.

Mine was processing for almost a week.
 
Lol ya chill man.

Mine was processing for almost a week.
Really? Thats not right, Especially when they say an item is in stock and you pay for faster shipping. I dont like that. I might go down there and give someone a Hogan smash. But seriously I was counting on mine coming wednesday
 
Really? Thats not right, Especially when they say an item is in stock and you pay for faster shipping. I dont like that. I might go down there and give someone a Hogan smash. But seriously I was counting on mine coming wednesday

Ya I can understand why you'd be angry as many people do when this happens.
 
Well I was just doing a mike tyson parody but still. When I placed my order on sat it said it was in stock. If its not they shouldn't hold up my whole order over it. I paid 12 buck to have it here by wednesday. If they wait on the 1 item it prob won't even ship until wed, Thats not right.

If I get the labels on tomorrow it'll ship Wednesday to you
 
If I get the labels on tomorrow it'll ship Wednesday to you
I know that was my guess but it was supposed to be here wednesday I paid extra. I ordered 6 items so if they don't have the recompadrol they should have shipped the rest of the order today you know what I mean? Im going to call them tomorrow and see what they can do. I need that other stuff asap. And like I said I paid extra to have it here wednesday.
 
I know that was my guess but it was supposed to be here wednesday I paid extra. I ordered 6 items so if they don't have the recompadrol they should have shipped the rest of the order today you know what I mean? Im going to call them tomorrow and see what they can do. I need that other stuff asap. And like I said I paid extra to have it here wednesday.

They will work with you man
 
Bwahahahahaaha :p

I have no idea why but that made me lmao!!!!!! Hahahahha

Wrong on so many levels but just plain hysterical lol

I wish NP had children so I could stomp on their testicles!
 
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