Artificial sweeteners (minus stevia and some of the olow calorie not no calorie alt-sugars and sugar alcohols) have data that tend toward being bad, and if I had to bet, they are bad. But, there is not a ton of data where it is indisputable. And, just by working out, exercise is a stronger positive influence than artificial sweeteners are bad, I wouldn't worry about it, unless you have issues that you think could be caused by gut dysbiosis.
I kinda skipped past thorough researching of IBS-type stuff because I assumed it had been a thing long enough that it was mostly figured out. But, from what i have seen in the research, tangentially, plus reading IBS stuff from people on reddit microbiome forums, I think think that there are groups whose problems are more complicated than just take a probiotic and get more fiber.@Par Deus What is your opinion on treatments for Chronoc Constipation/IBS-C? I've tried a few different probiotics, digestive enzymes, bitters etc. Little to no relief.
Found this interesting
Intestinal microbiota and chronic constipation
Chronic constipation is a prevalent, burdensome gastrointestinal disorder whose aetiology and pathophysiology remains poorly understood and is most likely multifactorial. Differences in the composition of the intestinal microbiota have been demonstrated ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I'd probably just cut dosing in half per day and use everyday, but yeah, most probiotics establish themselves in the gut and continue to live and all that. Some do not (dirt/soil type ones and some others).
My hands and face turn bright red easily (and I’m super tan so it’s bizarre to see the redness so easily), a feeling of flushing unprovoked, red cracked eyes are my most easily noticeable symptoms.
There are bacterial species that can turn histadine into histamine. I think you are going to be one of those people in the "resistant" groups that don't see much improvement from just getting the basics of gut health, right. The complicated ones.
Gut Health is overwhelmingly popular for the vast majority of people. The very first version of it gave me minor cold symptoms, everytime, which was 3 times. The 2nd version did not. Now, he is on the 4th or 5th version.
Gonna have to ditch the gut health I guess. I was using a pro-biotic for about 8 months called 'Hyperbotics Better Body' with good results:
| Proprietary Probiotic Blend B. breve, L. plantarum, B. lactis, L. gasseri, L. paracasei, L. rhamnosus | 5 Billion CFU† | * |
| White Kidney Bean Extract†† (Phaseolus Vulgaris) | 500 mg | * |
| Orafti P95 Prebiotic (FOS) | 50 mg |
I'm a don't break it if it isn't broke type. If that one is working for you, good deal.
I’m with you on his. I’m interested in these products bc the nutrition panel of each is pretty awesome. However, there’s virtually no reviews or reputation of this company online. When you google the company name, they don’t even come up
They are relatively new and not some huge company.
Wish they shipped to Canada
Predator Nutrition has it. Don't know if they just serve the european part of the American Commonwealth or the rest of yall, too.
Predator is fkin expensive, perhaps try to expand in EU with other UK/EU retailers.
I am gonna say that until I stopped taking stims (I currently drink 2-3 coffee's a day only) and managed my stress - my gut did not start to heal no matter what I did otherwise to get it to heal. Good luck bro....
Definitely post some feedback after you do, I’d appreciate it.
I'll run the Shock Therapy first and follow it with the Suprabiotic. I will post the results for sure.
Thanks man. I consume maybe 150 to 200mg caffeine per day (coffee and energy drinks) but managing stress is the real battle. Anyways I'm trying the stack, not expecting a cure or really for it to do anything but will report back at the end and let you guys know how it does. I'm on day 3 of the Shock Therapy and so far all I've noticed is I spend the first hour after taking it burping up methol lol. Almost like I swallowed a cough drop. Is this meant to be on an empty stomach or does it not matter?
On Shock Therapy, my thoughts were that I could see reasons for with meals or empty stomach having its advantages, so I didn't specify. I figure most people take with meals out of habit unless a product intended for empty stomach. Pre/Probiotics themselves should definitely be as part of meal (or at least protein shake size snacks)
Alcohol is definitely bad on the gut -- literally on all of inflammation, dysbiosis, and decreased barrier integrity (i.e. "leaky gut"). Obviously, similar to alcohol in general where a couple is not a problem, but lots is. People who drink alcohol, regularly, need pre/probiotics more than those who do not.
Ok, thank you for the swift response. I’ll get on it when I’m back off hols. So it’s shock therapy followed by supribiotic?
Yeah, you take the full bottle of Shock Therapy before switching to the probiotic/prebiotic. Combining with PH/androgens and basically anything is fine (obviously introduces variables on body composition, but wouldn't interfere with anything )So it’s shock therapy followed by supribiotic?
Can these be stacked with mild PHs or natural anabolics or should I let this kick in first?
PS, I’m slightly in awe of anyone who has the knowledge and means to put these product out for consumption. Hope it’s worth my faith
I've noticed quite a bit of GI disruption when consuming oral hormonal compounds, it goes away once coming off but during on times you definitely notice it. That was just me, FYI.Ok, thank you for the swift response. I’ll get on it when I’m back off hols. So it’s shock therapy followed by supribiotic?
Can these be stacked with mild PHs or natural anabolics or should I let this kick in first?
PS, I’m slightly in awe of anyone who has the knowledge and means to put these product out for consumption. Hope it’s worth my faith
Is shock therapy okay to take with another product that contains menthol? Specifically, evomuse dcp which contains 30mg of additional menthol/day - Here is the ingredient label if you aren’t familiar.
Yeah, that would be fine.
Senna- can be uncomfortable but works.@Par Deus What is your opinion on treatments for Chronoc Constipation/IBS-C? I've tried a few different probiotics, digestive enzymes, bitters etc. Little to no relief.
Found this interesting
Intestinal microbiota and chronic constipation
Chronic constipation is a prevalent, burdensome gastrointestinal disorder whose aetiology and pathophysiology remains poorly understood and is most likely multifactorial. Differences in the composition of the intestinal microbiota have been demonstrated ...
Isn’t the actual real deal Visbiome now? The guy who had the OG patent used to have his formula in VSL3 but left and things got messy so it’s currently only in Visbiome I believe. VSL3 now uses an imitation from my understanding.
Thanks!
4 to 5 caps a day is a full serving. Asked the boss man.
Suprabiotic bottle says 1-2 caps a day.
Bad label. I contacted the company.
Pretty bad miss by a supp company. Ingredients and dosages... kind of important
I am.
They said their latest batches are corrected.Pretty bad miss by a supp company. Ingredients and dosages... kind of important
How long? Any effects yet?
Only been on about 5 days. I know that as of now I have no complaints. No bloat issue for me. Not extra gassy. Digestion overall seems good. The first few days bowel movements were more like diharea, but now they aren't diharea, and they aren't large bowel movements either (good food absorbtion). My wife may be having the bloat/gas issue, but I eat overall better than her, and she came off antibiotics, so may be why she seems to have more initial sides.
