Prime? What is it really like?????

Mr.50

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I was thinking that since we have to wait to get what we want (Prime, or whatever its gonna be called) we should get some more feedback together about what Prime is really like???? I realize there is testimony from the testers all over but what I am talking about is what does prime compare to? and by this I mean what class of compounds does Prime's results compare to, not "Prime is like 350mgs of Test-E a week". Most comparisons like that are hype to play off the actual anabolic compound used as reference. So here is the question for everyone to weigh in about (especially Jacob, Paco, and Mullet if they can at this time).......... is Prime comparable to an aas/ph/ps without the suppression???? is Prime comparable to a beta agonist (i.e. clen, etc.) with some anabolic activity? Is Prime comparable to hGH (in results not mechanism of action or compound class)? Does Prime create a combination of results that is not comparable to any other class of compound?

My ideal would be a compound that allowed me to starve (exaggerating) without losing lean body weight but will also not increase body weight, increases vascularity, aids in fat loss, improves mood, improves libido!! Does Prime do this or another combination of effects???

Weigh in while we wait!!!!


Mr.50
 
Hi there Mr.50, I liked the way you put that, I hope one of the big boys will come in to answer your questions.
 
Prime was an entirely new experience for me. I have tried all of the natural herbal anabolics out there and nothing comes close to Prime. My strength was going through the rough week after week....it was kind of scary. I am very in tune with my body and when I put 3 reps on a particular exercise in one week, that is insane. Only problem was my intensity was so insane I was burning out my CNS a little. I would plan an extra rest day on this stuff because you get so amped on this. This stuff is the real deal. Congrats to Jacob on finding this one!
 
I will allow the testers to make comparisons, as any comparison - no matter the quality or size - invariably becomes a guarantee when made by the vendor. Suffice to say, I was personally very pleased with the results I received from Prime, and related as much in my tester experiences.
 
everything that i have heard from testers is outstandingly freakish. Since this is herbal I am psyched to see what the combination is
 
I am in no way shape or form hating, or discrediting prime but i dont think you can compare it to T roid or H drol or any "hormone" if this is indeed natty. Im sure it will deliver no doubt as i love AP and Pslin, recreate was decent, and powerfull works, but really? Better then T roid and H drol? :fool2:
 
3clipseGT said:
I am in no way shape or form hating, or discrediting prime but i dont think you can compare it to T roid or H drol or any "hormone" if this is indeed natty. Im sure it will deliver no doubt as i love AP and Pslin, recreate was decent, and powerfull works, but really? Better then T roid and H drol? :fool2:
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I think we fall victim to the "steroid" comparison. Steroid users use several steroids at once and H-drol is a very weak steroid at that.

The problem is people stack steroids so it would be an unfair comparison to compare one product to a stack of steroids.

I think its better than superdrol once you figure in risk and reward. Yes, you may gain 12lbs on superdrol in a month but risk gyno, liver toxicity, loss of gains, loss of motivation, loss of sex drive, loss of drive, loss of strength and etc. when its all said and done 6 weeks after the cycle ends you may net a gain of 5 or 6lbs.

So figure you can use PRIME for 8 weeks, PRIME will out peform a superdrol cycle. A superdrol cycle ends in 8-10 weeks when you figure in PCT and getting back to homeostatis..
 
I understand where you are coming from no doubt. Itll be interesting to see once it hits the market.
 
So where the class of compounds know as aas/ps/ph cause increases in strength, and muscle tissue, and MAY aid in fat loss,

we know that compound like clen increases fat loss and helps to retain LBM, and MAY increase LBM,

we know hGH clearly aids in fat loss, recovery, soem LBM gains (time and dose dependent) and overall sense of well being,

and herbal test boosters generally show signs of increased libido and well being and MAY cause some increases in strength and LBM.

So for the guys in the know is there anyway to compare Prime with some of the characteristics of the above (acknowledging that the mechanism of action is likely totally different)?

Mr.50
 
Mr.50; said:
So where the class of compounds know as aas/ps/ph cause increases in strength, and muscle tissue, and MAY aid in fat loss,

we know that compound like clen increases fat loss and helps to retain LBM, and MAY increase LBM,

we know hGH clearly aids in fat loss, recovery, soem LBM gains (time and dose dependent) and overall sense of well being,

and herbal test boosters generally show signs of increased libido and well being and MAY cause some increases in strength and LBM.

So for the guys in the know is there anyway to compare Prime with some of the characteristics of the above (acknowledging that the mechanism of action is likely totally different)?

Mr.50
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Strictly speaking, Prime may require a category of its own. Considering the results I obtained from the beta test, it would be both hard and unfair to force Prime solely into any of those categories. It appears to deliver benefits in several desirable directions, without the typical androgenic sides.
 
I should add, I felt extremely "tight" on Prime, meaning my muscles were always pumped and it had fat burning properties.
 
strategicmove said:
Strictly speaking, Prime may require a category of its own. Considering the results I obtained from the beta test, it would be both hard and unfair to force Prime solely into any of those categories. It appears to deliver benefits in several desirable directions, without the typical androgenic sides.
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Sure Strategic I am sure you are right but I really wasn't trying to force it into one of those catagories (unless it naturally fit) but really to see if any sort of realistic comments can be made to say..... "Prime is like a cross between catagory A and catagory B"......

Mr.50
 
CoreDoug said:
I should add, I felt extremely "tight" on Prime, meaning my muscles were always pumped and it had fat burning properties.
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For me this is the type of effect I am looking for......was your "tight" feeling on low, normal, or high carbs????

Mr.50
 
CoreDoug said:
High! About 450 per day.
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Was this for more then 2 weeks? Are you typicall an ecto,meso,endo?

The reason I ask is that I am a meso/endo and when I go low carb I lose some fat but I get flat and lost that "tight" pumped feeling. When I increase carbs I tend to get a full pumped feeling for a few days and then they spill over and I get a bit "watery". Over the years I have done carb cycleing etc. and it works to a degree but something that would aid in this process would be a great addition. AP seems to kick ass for this but it also seems to lessen my fight-sport endurance (in a way I wish I was just lifting and cardio these days).

Mr.50
 
Mr.50; said:
Sure Strategic I am sure you are right but I really wasn't trying to force it into one of those catagories (unless it naturally fit) but really to see if any sort of realistic comments can be made to say..... "Prime is like a cross between catagory A and catagory B"......

Mr.50
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For me, there were three areas Prime beta demonstrated significant and noticeable benefits:
1) Increases in Strength and Endurance. Slow. Steady. Cumulative. No crashes.
2) Improved Muscle Fullness, Density, and Vascularity. No placebo effect anywhere in sight.
3) Increase in Lean Mass and Anti-Catabolism. Prominent.

- Not to mention boosts in libido and sexual performance.
- Test duration: 40 days.
- No androgenic sides.
 
Mr.50 said:
Was this for more then 2 weeks? Are you typicall an ecto,meso,endo?

The reason I ask is that I am a meso/endo and when I go low carb I lose some fat but I get flat and lost that "tight" pumped feeling. When I increase carbs I tend to get a full pumped feeling for a few days and then they spill over and I get a bit "watery". Over the years I have done carb cycleing etc. and it works to a degree but something that would aid in this process would be a great addition. AP seems to kick ass for this but it also seems to lessen my fight-sport endurance (in a way I wish I was just lifting and cardio these days).

Mr.50
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yes more than 2 weeks. I would throw a low carb cardio only day in every 4 days or so.
 
USPLabs said:
I think we fall victim to the "steroid" comparison. Steroid users use several steroids at once and H-drol is a very weak steroid at that.

The problem is people stack steroids so it would be an unfair comparison to compare one product to a stack of steroids.

I think its better than superdrol once you figure in risk and reward. Yes, you may gain 12lbs on superdrol in a month but risk gyno, liver toxicity, loss of gains, loss of motivation, loss of sex drive, loss of drive, loss of strength and etc. when its all said and done 6 weeks after the cycle ends you may net a gain of 5 or 6lbs.

So figure you can use PRIME for 8 weeks, PRIME will out peform a superdrol cycle. A superdrol cycle ends in 8-10 weeks when you figure in PCT and getting back to homeostatis..
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Good point. And that's PCT goes smooth. It may be 12 weeks + 4 week cycle = 16 weeks.
 
Core and Strat thanks for the feedback! Thats just the type of thing I am looking for and it sounds like just the type of compound I am looking for. Now if only i can get my hands on some!

Mr.50
 
I agree with SM and Doug. I felt the effects they talked about, but two things i also noted that i really liked was mood change and sleep quality. My sleep felt more restful, while this did not effect me by making me tired or helping me fall asleep i seemed to wake well rested. I also noted great mood changes. I had an edge to me and some aggresion(particularly in the gym) but i really liked how it made me feel confident and i easily did more weight than i used to.

PS-i am young so take that into account, but i am very in tune with my body and personally i went in skeptical because i didn't think a testbooster could do much for me at my age(and well its not technically a testbooster anyways..)
 
bolt10 said:
I agree with SM and Doug. I felt the effects they talked about, but two things i also noted that i really liked was mood change and sleep quality. My sleep felt more restful, while this did not effect me by making me tired or helping me fall asleep i seemed to wake well rested. I also noted great mood changes. I had an edge to me and some aggresion(particularly in the gym) but i really liked how it made me feel confident and i easily did more weight than i used to.

PS-i am young so take that into account, but i am very in tune with my body and personally i went in skeptical because i didn't think a testbooster could do much for me at my age(and well its not technically a testbooster anyways..)
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When you say lifts increased significantly, do you mean by reps + 3-4, and/OR by lbs +5+10+15?
 
hardknock said:
When you say lifts increased significantly, do you mean by reps + 3-4, and/OR by lbs +5+10+15?
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I do not have my actual lifting log on hand(someone stole it :wtf: ) but i do remember that most of the lift increases were for adding like 5-10lbs each lift and getting the same number reps as the week before. In all i believe it was like 20-30lbs increases on the larger exercises(i will try and look back and see if i have anywhere else recorded my exact weights)
 
I loved prime in the 3-4 weeks I used it. Most noticeable effects were strength increase and aggression. I had great workouts and with using recreate as well it was a great one two punch for recomp. Needless to say I will be buying some when it comes out. I logged my run so feel free to check it out and see my numbers I believe it's in the logs section of the board.

I notice a lot of people want to know whats in it well here ya go, sorry Jacob I'm letting the cat out of the bag.
Ingredients:
-Piss & Vinegar

Happy now:D
 
I had piss & vinegar on my cheerios this morning. :)
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Nope, not stimulant based at all.
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This is what I love about this company. There were things that were bothering me about supplementation in the last 10 years or so. One is if you wanted to make good gains or get a good boost in strength you had to face HPTA shutdown, now there has been some real improvements with herbals and I like the direction it's going but Prime sounds like the real answer.

The second thing is that fat loss products always seemed to involve a certain amount of stim effect. I hated this, it just isn't healthy and makes me feel like crap. Enter Recreate and my prayers are answered. There are other products like Leviathan and DCP that deserve honorable mention here. Not only so they help burn fat but you can add mass while using them.
 
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