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PRIME USER's please Stand Up....even NON-RESPONDERS

spearfisher said:
Cool thread. Thanks for starting it. I just got some prime. I have been on a training hiatus unfortunately. Just finished my masters and take national boards next week. After that I'm hitting the gym. About 4 wks in, planning on using some Prime. You have me looking forward to it. I've used Powerfull in the past and had great results out of it. Thinking I may stack the 2. Learned some from this post. Thanks
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feel free to come back and post your thoughts on prime after u start/finish
 
Kristofer68SS said:
Started with Primordial's TRS and 9 Prime ED Oct 1st.
then November 1st transitioned over to 6 DTH(240ct) and 6 Prime
then December 1st transitioned into a 666 protocol of DTH, DTP and Prime.

6 DTP and 6 Prime on Workout days, 6 DTH and 6 Prime on off days. Nothing on saturday and sunday.

Side note: This just seems to be working the best, nothing to do with number of the beast.

I have to say lifts have all been slowly rising. So I am pretty happy with it. I just stalled on squats at 265x5X3. I could only get 3 reps on the last set. I have never squatted this much in the past, and I also go pretty darn deep. Just short of stopping in the hole. And I mean in the hole.

So I will try it again this thursday, mentally preparing all week, then making sure caloric intake is on target wednesday and thursday.

For the sale they have going now, one would be stupid not to try it. I have two bottles on the shelf or I would be buying more.
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Im currently running 6 dthc/6 prime for 3 weeks now with great results. clothes are already fitting tighter and have gained about 5 lbs. Kris, any reason u didnt go higher with dthc(240ct)? and ever go higher in prime? Im about to keep dthc @ 6 and run 69 protocol w/prime
 
mrlargecalves said:
Im currently running 6 dthc/6 prime for 3 weeks now with great results. clothes are already fitting tighter and have gained about 5 lbs. Kris, any reason u didnt go higher with dthc(240ct)? and ever go higher in prime? Im about to keep dthc @ 6 and run 69 protocol w/prime
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I loaded up the first month with 9ED(5on/2off), then my maintenance dose of 6 seemed to be getting results so Im didnt mess with it. I just finished up the prime portion of my stack.

Now its DTH, DTP, Trib Test Extreme and finally Ether tabs when the other bottles start to go empty. :)

I will definately use Prime again.
 
Well I hope I get the recovery help from prime soon. I just started with a trainer Monday and his methods r hardcore! I'm hurting like a fat mother trucker
 
freezito said:
Well I hope I get the recovery help from prime soon. I just started with a trainer Monday and his methods r hardcore! I'm hurting like a fat mother trucker
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At lower doses I don't get as much of the recovery as I do the other benefits which can make for some really heavy duty DOMS due to the fact I work much harder on Prime.
 
My strength shoots up after about 4wks or so, but I don't seem to get any of the other benefits (mental aggression, confidence boost, increased appetite, increased recovery) that many other users report. - I've ran between 6 caps and 10 caps/day, and I've found I can get by with 7/day and do just as well as I do with 10/day.

Once I get my hands on Natatropin, I'll be comparing the two.

AZ mentioned that judging from the Natatropin logs, the two may compliment each other quite well, so once I make the comparison myself, I'll be able to tell.
 
Went through 3 bottles. All I got was a feeling of lethargy, but I did notice a little fat loss. Must have been eating up my carbs.
 
Sinon said:
Went through 3 bottles. All I got was a feeling of lethargy, but I did notice a little fat loss. Must have been eating up my carbs.
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lethargy? interesting...first time i heard this.

You mind going into detail about diet, training, dosing and so on? im curious b/c lethargy and fat loss usually dont go hand in hand unless ur in a very deep cut and in extreme caloric deficit
 
ive taken prime right after the release, the old 600mg bottles and got some great strength gains at 9 caps a day, the gains i got were about the same as when i took 11 oxo but with 11oxo i leaned out alot more.
Now ive been waiting for prime to be on special for a while now and when this dual bottle deal with free ap i couldnt resit i really wanted to try this on a cut.
Ive been cutting now for near 6 months and lost alot of strength, fat and muscle but now that ive started prime im gaining the strength back real fast which is a big supprise im now doing 9 caps of the 800mg bottles and loving it, my bench is nearly were it was before and my deads are going up each week
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
lethargy? interesting...first time i heard this.

You mind going into detail about diet, training, dosing and so on? im curious b/c lethargy and fat loss usually dont go hand in hand unless ur in a very deep cut and in extreme caloric deficit
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Has to be a combination of diet and a strange reaction to the product.
 
i like prime, not the greatest, but not the worst, it worked very good for strength, it was amazing the few days i stacked it with the original jacked, wish i had the jacked earlier in the bottle of prime, but i'm not a powerlifter and would rather see a recomp affect and body changes, i didn't gain much weight and didn't reshape my body, i did however go up in all of my lifts
 
Does anyone know the ratio of Trib. A to Chebula is in Prime? Thermolifes T-Bol has a Trib A. extract. Anyone know if it compares to primes?
 
im not sure if tribulus aquaticus is the same as tribulus alatus.....does anyone know if they are similar?
 
In the last year Prime has become a staple in my supplement arsenal. The results for me have been steady and reliable especially in the areas of strength and recovery. Like I tell everyone, If you're realistic and work hard, Prime is for you.
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
im not sure if tribulus aquaticus is the same as tribulus alatus.....does anyone know if they are similar?
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Both camps will claim they are not the same.

Simply put, Just depends on where it was grown(soil), what part of the plant was used and the extract process.


FAQ on it-

What is Tribulus?

Tribulus Terrestris is a vine plant that grows in moderate and tropical climates in the United States, Mexico, Eastern Europe, India and China. Tribulus is extracted from the plant to make nutritional supplements.

People from China, the Middle East and India have been using Tribulus for centuries to cure conditions like dizziness, erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation and headaches.


What does Tribulus do?

Tribulus is used by bodybuilders and athletes to raise testosterone levels. Although the pharmacodynamics of Tribulus have not been established in human subjects, Tribulus is thought to support healthy hormone profile by boosting testosterone levels via stimulation of the anterior pituitary gland. This stimulation is thought to promote the production and secretion of Leutinizing Hormone (LH)[5], which can lead to increases in unbound, free-testosterone levels.

Tribulus contains steroidal saponins, alkaloids, and flavanoids[8], but it is the protodioscins content of Tribulus that is believed to be responsible for its apparent ability to boost testosterone levels and support health hormone profile function. Research has shown that

Tribulus extract, standardized for 20% protodioscins, was effective at stimulating testosterone increases in study subjects.

In addition to stimulating LH and possibly increasing testosterone levels in some subjects, Tribulus may be an effective treatment for male and female impotence, as well as promoting healthy blood pressure and healthy cholesterol profile.[7]


Does Tribulus have any side effects?

Tribulus is an all natural product and studies on humans have shown no side effects. The product is safe for use by women and men.

Toxic effects have been observed in sheep fed large amounts of Tribulus [1], but are not likely to be applicable to normal supplemental use by humans.


Tribulus dosages:

No dosage protocols have been established for Tribulus, as the potency varies from product to product depending on the region where the Tribulus was sourced. Follow the instructions given on the supplement label.
 
well if t-bol's main obective is to use t. A to raise test then it is not the same as t. A in prime which is not designed to raise test.

Therefore making a comparison in how much in is in each wouldnt really matter.
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
well if t-bol's main obective is to use t. A to raise test then it is not the same as t. A in prime which is not designed to raise test.

Therefore making a comparison in how much in is in each wouldnt really matter.
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Sounded like he was asking for a feedback comparison of the two.

dont know, dont care. Most of the reviews for both have been good.
 
haha oops kris once again u point out my mis-understanding. Thats what i get for reading through posts in a rush.


Sorry man i havent tried t-bol
 
I ran a 12 weeks protocol of Prime as a standalone when it first became available. It definately helps with recovery but that's about all. Didn't gain a lb of LBM or any noticable strength increases. The problem I have with USP is trust. They probably have some good products but they overhype their products so much and stack the reviews and forms so much I just don't trust the company.
 
BBB said:
I ran a 12 weeks protocol of Prime as a standalone when it first became available. It definately helps with recovery but that's about all. Didn't gain a lb of LBM or any noticable strength increases. The problem I have with USP is trust. They probably have some good products but they overhype their products so much and stack the reviews and forms so much I just don't trust the company.
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Thanks for sharing your opinion. You mind sharing some of ur more staple strength and recovery supps?
 
BBB said:
I ran a 12 weeks protocol of Prime as a standalone when it first became available. It definately helps with recovery but that's about all. Didn't gain a lb of LBM or any noticable strength increases. The problem I have with USP is trust. They probably have some good products but they overhype their products so much and stack the reviews and forms so much I just don't trust the company.
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You have to realize that some people experience pretty much what is advertised. To them trust isn't an issue... get what I'm trying to say. I could say a lot of things about a lot of products I don't respond well to. We're all aware some get more from the product than others, what does trust have to do with it. It's a simple matter of will I respond or will I not. If you don't then try something else.
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
Thanks for sharing your opinion. You mind sharing some of ur more staple strength and recovery supps?
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For natural strength increases Diesel Test Hardcore seems to work best. I have tried many others but I always seem to return to DTHC. I have also tried DTP and it works well also but I don't care for the high doses of DHEA. JP8 and NOS Ether are great if you can handle the taste. I can't. Diesel products are specifically design for natural strength increases and they do work. I use DTHC pretty much year round with small breaks here and there.

I am currently experimenting with PreMax and I seem to be noticing strength increases with this product as well as decreased recovery time.
 
BBB said:
For natural strength increases Diesel Test Hardcore seems to work best. I have tried many others but I always seem to return to DTHC. I have also tried DTP and it works well also but I don't care for the high doses of DHEA. JP8 and NOS Ether are great if you can handle the taste. I can't. Diesel products are specifically design for natural strength increases and they do work. I use DTHC pretty much year round with small breaks here and there.

I am currently experimenting with PreMax and I seem to be noticing strength increases with this product as well as decreased recovery time.
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This is what I am talking about, I don't get anything from DTHC, even at very high dose but I respond very well to Prime. I don't doubt you do very well with it. We're just different and respond differently to different herbs. It is perplexing but it is what it is.

Premax does look exciting but 5 dollars a serving is too steep for me right now, I know they spared no expense and the product is not unfairly priced, but it's still very expensive. If I could afford it, I would be all over it. It really looks like a winner.
 
DreamWeaver said:
This is what I am talking about, I don't get anything from DTHC, even at very high dose but I respond very well to Prime. I don't doubt you do very well with it. We're just different and respond differently to different herbs. It is perplexing but it is what it is.

Premax does look exciting but 5 dollars a serving is too steep for me right now, I know they spared no expense and the product is not unfairly priced, but it's still very expensive. If I could afford it, I would be all over it. It really looks like a winner.
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This is exactly the reason why i created this thread. I have seen during my time here on AM that there is a great debate on herbal extracts and which work and which dont. And when it all boils down to it, many of the companies here sell legit and effective supplements but different people react differently to each of these supps.

A trend i have noticed is that those who dont respond well to Prime will respond to other herbals based on raising test such as trib T extracts.

As triple B said even though it didnt help his strenght increase it helped him recover so if stacked with one something like DTHC he can increase strength and recover quicker leading to more progress.

To those who have tried DTHC and didnt see results like DW, try Prime....you may find something u like. Likewise if you are a prime non responder try DTHC.


Keep it coming guys the more feedback the more alternatives the better!
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
This is exactly the reason why i created this thread. I have seen during my time here on AM that there is a great debate on herbal extracts and which work and which dont. And when it all boils down to it, many of the companies here sell legit and effective supplements but different people react differently to each of these supps.

A trend i have noticed is that those who dont respond well to Prime will respond to other herbals based on raising test such as trib T extracts.

As triple B said even though it didnt help his strenght increase it helped him recover so if stacked with one something like DTHC he can increase strength and recover quicker leading to more progress.

To those who have tried DTHC and didnt see results like DW, try Prime....you may find something u like. Likewise if you are a prime non responder try DTHC.


Keep it coming guys the more feedback the more alternatives the better!
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Prime is very expensive using the 69 protocol.
 
BBB said:
Prime is very expensive using the 69 protocol.
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Yah that's why I stock up on the twin pack deals.... 69 is very potent though now the dosing has increased. I get good gains at 5 ed, I am well stocked though so I use progressive dosing for long runs. If you respond well it works good at low dose but the higher doses bring even better results so it's hard to lay off when you see the bottles in your cupboard. A person who doesn't respond as well and has to use 69 has the extra expense to contend with.

The best thing to do is try it at a lower dose and see how well you respond. I gave this to my son at 3600 mg ed and watched as he gained 70 lbs on his squat and 40 on his bench for 5 reps in 4 weeks. 5 pills of the new is 4000 mgs...
 
BBB said:
Prime is very expensive using the 69 protocol.
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You make an excellent point but for those who it works for it's worth every penny.

As a natural athlete i find myself having an "elite" line of supplement i fall back on to bring me back from the rigors of my obsessive training. So increased recovery is something i cherish dearly. Added to the fact that i do increase my strength significantly while on Prime especially when stack with other USP products....its worth it.

I dont go clubbing anymore....when i hang out with my friends we keep it simple and inexpensive....i dont have a girlfriend....i dont have an expensive hobby other then lifting so i put all my cash into food and supps.

If you make nutrition a priority in your life...dishing out for what works for you only makes sense.
 
wow, prime is kicking in. Today i was hitting it hard from every angle! sweat pouring out, muscles exhausted but I wanted to keep going and going.
 
freezito said:
wow, prime is kicking in. Today i was hitting it hard from every angle! sweat pouring out, muscles exhausted but I wanted to keep going and going.
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oh i love it when prime kicks in...i never notice it till after the workout and i realize i did something ridiculous. Its almost like i get this tunnel vision aggression and anything in my wake must be conquered. I love it
 
Everyone looking for answers should go to Usp labs website. My experience with Prime was amazing. Although I was taking Anabolic Pump and Powerfull, and seeing great results , I bumped up my Prime usage from 6 caps a day to 15. With the increase in dosage, I saw an increase in strength and recovery. I ran all of this for about 8 to 9 weeks. My lbm went from 192 to just over 200. My weight went up 10lbs but eventually came back to just over 2lbs gained in overall bodyweight. This means I gained 8 pounds of muscle and lost close to 9lbs of bodyfat.

My bench went up from about 225lbs for around 6 reps to 225 for 12 or more. I could maybe do 1 or 2 reps on dips, to 15 reps. The most I benched was 295 for 3 reps.

I have to compare my results to my days of prohormone usage, and say that it compares well. As far as strength and body compositon goes its really close, except there is zero post cycle therapy involved with Prime. So in that repect, Usp labs makes a better product, by far.

Usplabsdirect.com is thee place to go to learn about, how to use, and maximize each Usp labs product currently available. If you dont, then your not reaching these products maximum potential.
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
oh i love it when prime kicks in...i never notice it till after the workout and i realize i did something ridiculous. Its almost like i get this tunnel vision aggression and anything in my wake must be conquered. I love it
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For responders that seems to be a common thread. The biggest thing for me is going through a day where I really kill it at work or a exceptionally intense workout and the next day, I'm not wiped out.
 
I have never run this product but the feed-back looks great and looks like it goes right down my alley.

So I plan on running this in the month or month and a half leading up to my Mr. Ohio competition this year if funds will allow it (hopefully they do) and just wanted to let everyone know I will be logging it if I get a chance to run it so we can have another thread of it for people to follow and see how it works in a pre-contest run!
 
Nice Debate and Dreamweaver said it best "we advertise the best results" and there is not a company in the WORLD that does not...

Would Coke say it's product tastes OK or Mercedes state the drive is satisfactory...

Some must really believe they blow up a toyota truck in those commercials...
 
Glad to see you drop by jacob! Any prime experiences you would like to share? lol
 
I have had very positive result from prime in the strength, mass, recovery, and even training drive. Maybe the drive comes more from the anticipation of getting to the gym and seeing how much stronger I've gotten. Prime works for me and works quite well. I'm starting my fourth bottle and taking this one very seriously to see just what it can do. Overall 10/10. However, I've noticed a bit of GI trouble when running 6 caps a day for 6 days on 1 off. Anyone else getting that?
 
Prime increased strength and recovery for me, and I will use it again. I used it solo as part of PCT after an epi cycle, and I believe that I used 2 bottles at the recommended dosage. I don't recall specifics, but the results were noticeable. I did not, however, like or respond to Jack3d. I can't comment on Powerfull or Anabolic Pump as I have not used them.
 
I responded extremely well to nx labs nitro t3. Which I'm assuming is TT. It should be interesting to see how I respond to primes TA. After reading about the diesel it's tempting to stack prime and diesel but for the sake of knowing which product actually works in going to try just prime first. I respond well to most but I'm also making sure I get tons of bcaa's and nutrients. Like stated above, if you don't have your diet and training in check you can't really make accurate judgement of a supplement!. I will come back to this thread in 8 weeks of 69 protocol and let yall know how I respond.
 
Prime is still kicking butt! I dont feel human! Im doing the 69 protocol for those that dont know. I have four bottles! 2 with the higher dosages and 2 with the lower dosages. on the 6 day i take the one with 800 and on the 9 a day i take the ones with 600mg and its working out well. Oh and powerfull has my sleep and libido going stong and ap rocks the house. Life is good. No logs, sorry. Ive tried and i suck at logs. I feel like when i can just focus on me and not logs and everything else i suceed. when im pressured I go to ****!
 
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